World at War Mafia - Page 103

On April 08 2010 03:54 Caller wrote:

roleblocking someone else guarantees lynching me = mislynch = probable town loss
roleblocking me = exonerates me = unlikely lynch of me = lynch someone else = possible lynch of mafia = we're still in this

On April 08 2010 08:07 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I'm in class.

On April 08 2010 08:38 haster27 wrote:
This is ridiculous. By your argument you shouldn't even accuse me of being scummy since I was "exonerated" by today's roleblock. Mafia roleblocker can always choose not to roleblock anyone for the day, so that his scum partner or himself can step up and state that he has been Roleblocked.

On April 07 2010 21:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:

I pointed this out yesterday. And everyone decided Nikon was a better target. I even suggested that NIKON WAS THE THIRD PARTY. It would A)Explain the nuke rebound and B)Explain the night hit he took. Third party's usually are a combo of vet and vig.

I'm fed up with you, and I honestly think one of you and LMNOP are mafia. I'm all for lynching you to tell you the truth. I had Caller confirmed as Mafia YESTERDAY, and we lynch Nikon because "He lied about his ability so he should die" YES he SHOULD. But look at me, I seemed to catch on he was third party, and where'd my vote stay? ON CALLER, where EVERYONE else's should of been.

On April 08 2010 09:27 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I think I've previously said my feelings on this. Want what are you talking about voting you out because you advocated Nikons death? I'm not voting you out, I'm voting citizen out. What kind of statement is that Haster? Are you citizen?

Terribly wording maybe, but I've done said you seem shady as fuck several times. Then citizen pops on backing everything you say? Making the same arguments? Honestly, Caller could damn well be red. I've made plenty of arguments to justify why he would be red. But I'm also severely suspect as you, and YOU ADDED TO MY OWN EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU, by saying the mafia role blocker MAY NOT BLOCK so one of his fellow MAFIA can claim to have been blocked.

Infundiblum...He's come and popped up being helpful and gets banned. I didn't like his role. It doesn't seem very town to me, but Xelin's screamed mafia too so who knows.. Great fucking timing

On April 08 2010 11:23 Iaaan wrote:
so, just my own little thoughts from my own point of view:

caller checked d3 and he showed up red. thus, if we believe that caller is town, we have to believe that d3 is town. so, with opz and abenson being confirmed as townies, and then myself, caller and d3 being townies to, that leaves jeejee haster lmnop and citizen as mafia.

On April 08 2010 11:23 Iaaan wrote:
so, just my own little thoughts from my own point of view:

caller checked d3 and he showed up red. thus, if we believe that caller is town, we have to believe that d3 is town. so, with opz and abenson being confirmed as townies, and then myself, caller and d3 being townies to, that leaves jeejee haster lmnop and citizen as mafia.

On April 08 2010 10:58 citi.zen wrote:

So you think Haster is suspect, then promptly go on to vote for me. Good job.

BUT WAIT, there's more: Caller said he role-checked me at night, while at the same time claiming I can't be checked, err... have a role which deters checks because I can retaliate. Of course, Caller is still very much alive, there was no retaliation. As I've said many times before, the only thing China can do is nuke those who nuke it first. Not... you know... kill those who check it.

Let us not forget the final piece here: Caller's supposed check came out town, which must mean I am red, of course!

On April 08 2010 11:23 Iaaan wrote:
so, just my own little thoughts from my own point of view:

caller checked d3 and he showed up red. thus, if we believe that caller is town, we have to believe that d3 is town. so, with opz and abenson being confirmed as townies, and then myself, caller and d3 being townies to, that leaves jeejee haster lmnop and citizen as mafia.

On April 08 2010 11:33 Elemenope wrote:
I suppose I should rather ask:

Do you believe Caller or not?

On April 08 2010 11:25 Elemenope wrote:


Since when were you confirmed townie?

On April 08 2010 08:38 haster27 wrote:
Going through what I believe are major point of your posts because some people are starting to make strange votes.


This is ridiculous. By your argument you shouldn't even accuse me of being scummy since I was "exonerated" by today's roleblock. Mafia roleblocker can always choose not to roleblock anyone for the day, so that his scum partner or himself can step up and state that he has been Roleblocked.

Seeing as how you think I am pulling Mutual Chainsaw Defense for not mentioning citizen (my post was even before you posted list of reasoning that incriminates him as Mafia), I will address your points against citizen as well and show why you are more worthy lynch target than him.

I am combining your first and fourth argument because their point seem to be similar. You argue that infund and citizen has not been that active in the thread. Okay, I am ruling citizen out from the start. He had just been replaced yesterday. How can you accuse person who just replaced in of inactivity? Hell, JeeJee even suggested he do some reading, so there is nothing strange with citizen posting that he will be looking over the thread.

Thus this is summary of your argument: Paranoid Gun Owner must be active in order to cause Mafia to night-kill him. Infund has not done this. However, only thing we know is that he is only able to counter against nukes launched to him. Nothing has been spoken about him being immune to night kills. Because every activity seems to be being carried in terms of nukes (proved by RoL who launched a nuke instead of insta-killing his target after death), it is possible what infund has said could be his entire ability. I just feel like you are making too many assumptions here about role you don't know which makes me uncomfortable.

Also why in the world would you check infund out of all the suspects? Since you are so convinced that his role meant automatic retaliation, you should have avoided him at all costs and checked me like ~OpZ~ suggested. Look, everyone agreed that Mafia and Townie numbers were getting dangerously close, and keeping even one Townie alive was important. So why would you ignore recommendation from confirmed Townie and on your own make a decision that could have costed your life? If infund indeed have been paranoid gun owner (Townie), you (Townie Detective) would have been killed. Thus your took unnecessary action that would have placed the Town in worse position.

On April 08 2010 11:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:


Caller claiming Japan makes him EXTREMELY less scummy. Just saying...If he would of saved himself, then claimed Japan out in the open, mafia would of hit him. He would of seemed extremely more pro town. Meaning a higher chance the mafia would hit him.

Because Infund false claimed? Obvious. Not that hard to see.
How would you deter the known cop to investigate you?
Claim townie or claim a blue that can't be checked. Haster/Infund

Insane Cop. Terrible argument, you need to reread the thread. Meeple came out red. D3 came out red
You came out Town. Meeple is confirmed, and D3 will be confirmed.

On April 01 2010 10:35 Fishball wrote:
Ok. I'm off work, done dinner, and caught up with the thread.

First off, I want to point out my two top suspects besides Xelin. I would talk about Xelin later on.

Nikon, for trying to extend the day for the N'th time with his last minute nuke, against town consensus (duh), at an arguably lesser target based on general consensus, Zona.

Caller, lurking and laying low. Of course this alone wouldn't be enough for him to make the top of my list.

Listen up, I am France, a Tracker. One of my abilities is to track who visited who at Night. I used this ability on Caller during Night.

Results: Caller visited Meeple last night. Meeple ended up dead.

Pretty much self explanatory right here.

So Meeple and Amber was killed last night. We don't know if Mafia have more than one KP or not. If they do, the kills would easily make sense and Caller could very well be Mafia.

Let's assume Mafia only has 1 KP, and the other kill was from a Vigilante or the sort. Now Xelin pops out and says:

due to the reason:


Now, to me, this is just simply wording, and doesn't specifically means anything. A Mafia can also kill a target and the target would be "found dead" in the morning, no? Also, as mentioned in the thread, Amber was already suspected by some players, why would the Mafia hit him if this was the case? If a vigilante were to choose between Meeple and Amber, most likely it would be Amber. My point is, regardless of how much KP the Mafia has, Meeple is likely hit by a Mafia, and Caller took an action against Meeple last night. Meeple ended up dead.

Now, my ability only tells me who visited who at night, but doesn't tell me what the player did to the other player. Regardless, I'm 100% sure that Caller has a Night ability. Is he a Medic? Don't think so, as the Mafia would literally have to use 2 KP on Meeple to kill him. Is he a DT? Among so many "suspicious" players out there, what are the chances Meeple being checked? Coincidentally having Meeple die on the same night? Also, I consider my role like a mini-DT. Would there actually be a full DT role in this game? These are all hypothetical questions, but when you answer them all, the most likely scenario is that Caller is red and he killed Meeple.

One thing I don't understand is Xelin. His actions is like asking to be lynched, like the Village Idiot role pointed out by others already. I don't know what Xelin and Nikon have against Zona, as the majority of the players is obviously not seeing what they see, but after the Nikon stunt, Xelin has the guts to do the same thing, again, almost immediately (6 minutes) after the Night post. It doesn't matter if you are Mafia or Town, this move is just retarded.

If we put aside Xelin's "kill-me-please" plea, what should we do with Nikon and Caller? Nikon's move during Day is far more suspicious to me, and has yet to answer to his actions. Should town launch its first consensual nuke?