World at War Mafia - Page 102

On April 08 2010 03:20 Fishball wrote:


If "One shot Survivor" in Ace's post is meant what it is supposed to mean, Nikon should be able to reflect 1 nuke only.

Listen up, I am France, a Tracker. One of my abilities is to track who visited who at Night. I used this ability on Caller during Night.

Results: Caller visited Meeple last night. Meeple ended up dead.

On April 08 2010 03:44 haster27 wrote:
So why wasn't you roleblocked?

On April 08 2010 03:43 Caller wrote:
Okay, that does it guys:

I am actually Japan. I have no antinukes left, for the record, because I shot down the one that RoL launched at me. You may be wondering why I was acting all mysterious and suspicious throughout the entire fucking game. That's because I knew that if I claimed Japan and /or made myself not a lynch suspect, I would definitely get night hit and that means I wouldn't be able to figure out if I was insane or paranoid. Which, of course, means that my checks would turn up diddly squat and be completely useless.

We still got this:
Mafia KP is one per night. There clearly are no more than 4 mafia left. Therefore there have to be at least 5 townies. If we hit a mafia every night, we win. SK is dead so KP is down to one for lynch.

HOWEVER: I can now say that I am officially Insane.

Now consider:

I checked citi.zen last night and he came out town. That's right, town. Which means that I am insane and that therefore he is scum.

There's our lynch for today.

On April 01 2010 11:18 Caller wrote:
Well, gentlemen and woman, my idea of coming clean has been most rudely interrupted.

I am Israel, an Alignment Cop. The reason that I have barely said anything all game thus far is because any country's leader that opened their mouth died in a nuclear fire along with their many innocent civilians, as all can very clearly see. I didn't think there was any need at all for me to endanger my people's republic before my intelligence agency managed to get even one check off, so I figured the best thing to do was to say nothing. If people suspected my people of being conniving Mafia, then all the better, as by hiding among outsiders have the Jewish people survived for this long.

Basically, I have the ability to see whether or not someone is Innocent or Mafia.

I checked Nikon last night, because there were numerous suspicions among the people for his odd posting strategizations. But for some reason my checks had resulted in the determination of the role of meeple instead, and he, to my horror, was Mafia. I'm guessing that this odd switching of roles must have something to do with that blasted bus driver role that flamewheel had emplaced in his game.

I was initially going to reveal the people's will earlier today. But having saw that meeple was an ambiguous cop, I decided that it would be more effective for me to retreat and allow the intelligence agency to collect more datath. Firstly, if the Mossad were sane, that would give me result that meeple was in fact an innocent. The fact that he came out as a red scum implies that I am either insaneth or paranoidal.

On April 08 2010 03:39 Fishball wrote:
Was typing when the Night post was up.

Edited to delete content.

Knew I would die this time

Firstly, Infundibulum claims Paranoid Gun Owner. This is a very powerful role as it prevents people from visiting you at night without death. Now, because you want to draw mafia hits as it’s a free kill, in addition to preventing blues from being suspicious and checking you out, you take an active role in town discussion. Instead, both you and Infundibulum just kind of sat on your ass and only came out to defend yourself from allegations, otherwise you just kind of hmm de hmmed while other townies died.

The other effect of Paranoid Gun Owner is that it’s a deterrent to all blues to visit you, including DTs . At this point in the game, I was like why the fuck not, check him out, it’s almost over anyways. The very fact that I’m still alive and came out with a check means that you cannot possibly be the Paranoid Gun Owner.

Thirdly, your entire defense has been a by-the-book chainsaw defense (meaning you attack the other person instead of pleading your innocence). While this is not a hundred percent trustworthy, it can be a scumtell, especially when other people defend you in a similar fashion.

Fourthly, your posts have been “I need to catch up to the game and do reading, blah blah blah.” This may be valid but usually these posts are just an excuse for inactivity. If you’re innocent in general, and ESPECIALLY the Paranoid Gun Owner, you should just start firing away at everybody and hoping either you get mafia to slip up or you cause mafia to put a hit on you.

You and Infundibulum have done neither, instead preferring to AFK your way to victory. This is a valid strat as paranoid gun owner to counter blue sniping. However, you don’t fucking CLAIM paranoid gunowner if you’re doing this strategy.

In other words:
a) Both of you contributed nothing
b) You have a way to deter night visitors through your claim
c) If you truly are Paranoid Gunowner then you are playing your role terribly and letting mafia blue snipe no problem. Why the fuck would you roleclaim that shit AND pretend to be a blue?
d) My check shows you as innocent and since I checked meeple (blue) as red, that means I am insane and you are red. And because I visited you and I’m still alive, you clearly cannot be the Paranoid Gunowner.

And haster, your entire post is a great example of Mutual Chainsaw Defense (scumtell). Rather than show why citi.zen isn't scum because of his reasons, you attack me because "It's obvious that Caller is scum."
Really now?

On April 08 2010 05:03 Abenson wrote:
Alright, ~OpZ~ didn't die.
So... I think he is at work right now, but I want to release some of the PM's he sent me.
We feared that he would be the one to die today, and he sent me a bunch of things/thoughts for me to post if he had died.
I think i'll let ~OpZ~ himself explain, but if he's busy i'll just post the PM's

We need to think this out.

##NUKE: ~OpZ~

On April 08 2010 05:10 citi.zen wrote:
I guess it's worth a shot to try to get out of this again, but it won't work. For the sake of going through the motions I'll answer you. Here we go:


The paranoid trait does not prevent anyone from visiting me at night. In fact your lies are so transparent it's sad: you yourself claimed you just visited me and I turned up town.

The Paranoid Gun Owner, similar to the Army Veteran, involuntarily kills anyone who targets him during the night, regardless of alignment. He can be a liability to the Town for this reason, as he indiscriminately kills Cops, Doctors, etc. He can not choose to kill.

See above. As a paranoid gun owner I can nuke people who nuke me. I cannot deter people from visiting at night - as you (supposedly) should know.

ROFL - but but but - I accused you first, right after Ace's update post. So if anything, YOU are trying out the "chainsaw defense". I think this is a generally a really bad "tell" - but this case it helps point out yet another failed argument in a magnificent post. Good job.

You again fail to understand my ability - see above.

As to the activity levels: I have read summary posts, and all of Fishball's posts, since I thought he was... fishy. After doing that, you came up as the main red contender. Pretty clear cut stuff, many others outlined the case. I said so after the day post above. I voted. I think I did my job. Can't speak for Inf, but from what I've seen he seemed to be doing a decent job as well.

See my answers above - you are repeating illogical arguments. It ain't working - next time at least try to make sense.