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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 06 2010 17:39 GMT
#1981
On April 06 2010 19:50 ~OpZ~ wrote:

Show nested quote +
INfund:
"Nemy returns. Fires nukes at Nikon because he thinks the town wants him to. Actually, not many people were on so it's hard to say what anyone really wanted."


Shit, I was under the impression he was following my suggestion. I believe a few agreed with me on that respect. One suspect nuking another suspect? God...Haster....Stop adding more and more to my suspicions. You even agreed it was a good idea to verify Iaaan AND/OR Nikon.
Lookie here...LMNOP was pretty much the first to attack Nikon after the two vet claims. Nikon could be third party...Honestly, it would make sense for him to claim vet, because he prob had an extra night/day life being third party.


Here, I'll quote the post on the previous page I made that shows YOU WEREN'T the only one lobbying for me to nuke Nikon. In fact it was you and 3 other people (2 others before I launched it, and one agreed with it after the fact). The way Infund words it makes me out to be some rogue just launching nukes at folks.

On April 06 2010 17:51 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
6. Nemy returns. Fires nukes at Nikon because he thinks the town wants him to. Actually, not many people were on so it's hard to say what anyone really wanted.
7. The nukes are reflected back to Nemy. I bet a lot of people missed this post:


I guess in the big picture not a lot of people were "explicitly" for it, but the people who have contributed the most/maybe most helpful to the town were the ones CALLING for it.

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2010 07:43 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Or Iaaan I guess to extend the day...

but Nemy...Your job is to nuke Nikon. If not, you not you might as well claim mafia right now....


Show nested quote +
On April 05 2010 08:40 Iaaan wrote:
##nuke abenson

to extend the day because I don't really have any nukes ^.^

Just waiting for nemy to nuke nikon O:


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On April 05 2010 10:03 JeeJee wrote:
On April 05 2010 07:38 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On April 05 2010 04:51 JeeJee wrote:
On April 04 2010 16:47 nemY wrote:
On April 04 2010 13:41 JeeJee wrote:
fair enough
what's your take on his roleclaim? if you believe it why are you lynching a cop? if you don't, why not?


I don't believe he is a cop, because frankly anybody can say whatever they want here and not be verified, correct? Caller only shows up in times of dire situation for himself (ie: he's about to be lynched) and then he goes back to... whatever it is he's doing

when are you going to r/c jeejee?


i don't see the point tbh; if you haven't realized i'm town by now, well, i would advise you to follow the thread more closely in the future.

but i do love your post. "i don't believe his r/c because anyone can r/c whatever the fuck they want. btw when r u gonna r/c??" haha
maybe mafia should kill me and find out my role. if they want to take the risk

also, who's the next day extension-er? me countering opz's nuke a few min before it lands?


You have your regular nuke, and a retaliatory one. It's on you to nuke Abenson, and abenson to retaliate on me.


you have as many retaliatory nukes as u want i thought? so i figured i might as well retal vs u otherwise that one will be wasted
but since iaaan tossed out a fake nuke, doesn't really matter
still waiting on nemy to toss a nuke nikon's way


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On April 06 2010 09:00 Elemenope wrote:
On April 06 2010 01:16 ~OpZ~ wrote:
LMNOP hasn't said shit


I don't really havea nything new to say other than thanks for the anti-nuke d3? I still have my suspicions of Caller, nikon, d3, nemy due to previous reasons listed.

Nemy launched his nuke against Nikon which is what we wanted him to do to prove nikon's veteran status which is what this whole thing hinges around.

Unless you have any specific questions, I'm not sure what else to contribute until this nuke lands.


nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 06 2010 17:42 GMT
#1982
On April 06 2010 22:46 Nikon wrote:
You shouldn't lynch me because of two things:

First: Lynch Caller, this will clear up a lot of things, whether there's a bus driver at all, if he's mafia, etc.
Secondly: Make the decision after Nemy gets hit. According to Opz, he's a suspect after all.


You were a suspect long before I was a suspect and that fact that you deflected my nuke right back at it me screams MAFIA.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
April 06 2010 17:48 GMT
#1983
##vote: Nikon
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
April 06 2010 17:52 GMT
#1984
Wait, citizen. Did you just replace infund?
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
April 06 2010 17:56 GMT
#1985
On April 07 2010 02:52 haster27 wrote:
Wait, citizen. Did you just replace infund?

Yup. China baby, whoo-hoo!
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 06 2010 18:06 GMT
#1986
...Nemy...I was defending you homie...

Why so defensive?

Haster even agreed. Which Inf was the one using hasters statement IN his long post detailing the actions of the thread.

Citizen, how does your ability work. You can retaliate, OR only nuke people that nuke you...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 06 2010 18:08 GMT
#1987
On April 07 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...Nemy...I was defending you homie...

Why so defensive?

Haster even agreed. Which Inf was the one using hasters statement IN his long post detailing the actions of the thread.

Citizen, how does your ability work. You can retaliate, OR only nuke people that nuke you...


retaliate = nuking people that nuke you
no idea why you separate the two as if they are different
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 06 2010 18:10 GMT
#1988
On April 07 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...Nemy...I was defending you homie...

Why so defensive?

Haster even agreed. Which Inf was the one using hasters statement IN his long post detailing the actions of the thread.

Citizen, how does your ability work. You can retaliate, OR only nuke people that nuke you...

Clarity:

Haster agreed a suspect nuking a suspect was cool. Then said you just "came and nuked him" or some shit similar. I don't care about the exact wording enough, its on page 96 or 97 near the top (I believe) if anyone's concerned about that. Then he said it was good if Iaaan nuked him, but iaaan had already said he had no nukes....So I called for Nemy to do it, and nemy obliged us. Which is appreciative. I've done said that was a good protown thing to do Nemy.

Which unless Nikon is actually a townie, then we're good. I'd rather lynch Caller because...well...Someone's lying about being Japan, and since Japan won't step forward, Caller is all but gauranteed mafia. Seriously Japan, if Caller is innocent and this gets him lynched....But that isn't the case. Japan has no reason to lie right now. If he had anti's he'd save Nemy. So...Caller must be mafia. AMIRITE?

Can we lynch the gauranteed mafia already?

-_-
Keeping Nikon alive = exceptionally useful if I everyone refuses to create discussion.

-_-
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 06 2010 18:12 GMT
#1989
On April 07 2010 03:08 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...Nemy...I was defending you homie...

Why so defensive?

Haster even agreed. Which Inf was the one using hasters statement IN his long post detailing the actions of the thread.

Citizen, how does your ability work. You can retaliate, OR only nuke people that nuke you...


retaliate = nuking people that nuke you
no idea why you separate the two as if they are different

Because in the beginning someone said something about not nuking because nuking countries will just launch the rest of their nukes to bumfuck everyone. Hence why I seperate. I've been confused for quite some time. Thank you.

=D
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
April 06 2010 18:12 GMT
#1990
On April 07 2010 03:08 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...Nemy...I was defending you homie...

Why so defensive?

Haster even agreed. Which Inf was the one using hasters statement IN his long post detailing the actions of the thread.

Citizen, how does your ability work. You can retaliate, OR only nuke people that nuke you...


retaliate = nuking people that nuke you
no idea why you separate the two as if they are different

Right.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 06 2010 18:12 GMT
#1991
also, welcome to the game citi.zen
have you been reading this entire time or do you have a whole 100 pages of catching up to do?
i know it's a big time sink, but if you haven't i would urge you to try and read as much as you can to get as much context as you can. failing that, the various summary posts that are splattered here and there (nuke summaries, player analysis, vote counts etc) will make a great starting point as well
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
April 06 2010 18:14 GMT
#1992
Yes, I've been trying to start with the summary posts, particularly anything Inf has been posting, since he's the one I can trust, for obvious reasons. I'll try to get a better grasp of this by late tonight.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 06 2010 18:48 GMT
#1993
On April 07 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...Nemy...I was defending you homie...

Why so defensive?

Haster even agreed. Which Inf was the one using hasters statement IN his long post detailing the actions of the thread.

Citizen, how does your ability work. You can retaliate, OR only nuke people that nuke you...


Because Inf. framed it in a way that makes me look really bad? Doesn't really matter now that inf's not in the game anymore. Anyways...

I have a (very real) nuke coming towards me and I have pretty strong suspicions on who the nuke came from (well actually... who redirected it, I was the one who lobbed the nuke out there)

On April 04 2010 12:58 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 01:15 Elemenope wrote:
On April 04 2010 00:21 Nikon wrote:
On April 03 2010 20:27 Elemenope wrote:
On April 03 2010 20:05 Nikon wrote:
On April 03 2010 17:02 Elemenope wrote:
On April 03 2010 13:50 Iaaan wrote:
Last, a solid roleclaim from me, I was being ambiguous before, I am Antarctica, a veteran. My powers are 1 extra life against nukes, and 1 extra life against night hits. This makes me suspicious of nikon still, if we are both veterans, why are our roles different? I asked him a little bit about his role on the last page, from what he has said it doesn't sound like he has an extra life against nukes.


This is interesting, and from this, only one thing comes to mind - though I'd like to hear Nikon's take about Iaaan claiming veteran before coming to a decision.


Well, it would make sense to have more than one Veteran in a setup where there are multiple parties that can nightkill...



You seem to be confused. I'm not interested about the fact that there are multiple people role claiming as 'Veteran'. What I'm more interested about is the fact that these same two roles have different abilities, yet you seem to be fine with this.

We have you who claimed to be hit during the night, yet you are wondering if Iaaan's claim of a free nuke block during the day is true or not, going so far as to launch a nuke at him. Yet Iaaan is also claiming to be a veteran with a free nuke block and a free night hit block, and you don't find this surprising even when he roleclaimed the same role as you?

You seem quite casual about this and I can only guess that due to the difference of abilities of the same claimed roles:
One or both of you are lying about your roleclaims.


Yeah, except that laaan said that he will survive nukes yesterday, and I nuked him before he claimed veteran. You assume we have different abilities because he's assuming so, based on information I said I want to withhold.


What was the point in nuking him? Let's assume these things:
A) You are a veteran
B) Veteran ability entails a free night hit which is standard, but not as standard: a free nuke hit
C) Nobody mentions that they are immune to a single nuke hit until Iaaan mentions it

Given these three things, you still launch a nuke at Iaaan when only B is something Veterans could know. Iaaan could've guessed the ability, thinking it makes sense given that given that nukes are in the hands of 22 people, somebody ought to have nuke protection, even if it is a one-shot ability; however, the chance of this is very slim in my eyes, especially coupled with the fact that he says
On April 03 2010 06:46 Iaaan wrote:
On April 03 2010 01:37 Nikon wrote:
I am a Veteran. I took a hit last night.

With that out of the way - laaan, if I nuke you, do you think it will hit?


It will hit, but it wont kill me. Do you have nuke protection to? and are you arctica?


in response to you role claiming Veteran. He clearly says that veterans also have a one-shot day nuke protection. Yet you go ahead and nuke him and choose to withhold your capabilities even while roleclaiming? You realize the problem with this, right?

On top of this, you claim that your missile is fake which accomplishes absolutely nothing in terms of confirming whether Iaaan is truly veteran or not as his ability, which you should know, blocks a nuke hit because, as Iaaan puts it which you are also implying by not denying the fact that veterans have a one-shot nuke protection, it gives an extra life against nukes which means an actual nuke has to hit.

Because of this, your only purpose in sending that nuke is to accomplish one of two things:
A) Burn up an antinuke which you did so well with your first nuke, or
B) Burn up a veteran's extra nuke protection

Both of which do not help the town at all.

So perhaps you could explain why you thought that someone stating he possesses an ability that hasn't been mentioned by anybody until then which somehow conveniently matches your ability would deserve a nuke in order to prove this ability? If he's not veteran: congratulations, you probably killed scum since he lied, but this means you also lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If he is veteran: you burned his day protection and you lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If your missile is a dud: you accomplished nothing at all in terms of extra information for the town and we have no confirmation of your first missile.

What was really going through your mind when you decided to nuke Iaaan?


Nuke me to find out.


Why shouldn't we move forward to lynch Nikon? I'm not sure. ##Vote Nikon
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 06 2010 19:58 GMT
#1994
On April 07 2010 03:48 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...Nemy...I was defending you homie...

Why so defensive?

Haster even agreed. Which Inf was the one using hasters statement IN his long post detailing the actions of the thread.

Citizen, how does your ability work. You can retaliate, OR only nuke people that nuke you...


Because Inf. framed it in a way that makes me look really bad? Doesn't really matter now that inf's not in the game anymore. Anyways...

I have a (very real) nuke coming towards me and I have pretty strong suspicions on who the nuke came from (well actually... who redirected it, I was the one who lobbed the nuke out there)

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 12:58 Nikon wrote:
On April 04 2010 01:15 Elemenope wrote:
On April 04 2010 00:21 Nikon wrote:
On April 03 2010 20:27 Elemenope wrote:
On April 03 2010 20:05 Nikon wrote:
On April 03 2010 17:02 Elemenope wrote:
On April 03 2010 13:50 Iaaan wrote:
Last, a solid roleclaim from me, I was being ambiguous before, I am Antarctica, a veteran. My powers are 1 extra life against nukes, and 1 extra life against night hits. This makes me suspicious of nikon still, if we are both veterans, why are our roles different? I asked him a little bit about his role on the last page, from what he has said it doesn't sound like he has an extra life against nukes.


This is interesting, and from this, only one thing comes to mind - though I'd like to hear Nikon's take about Iaaan claiming veteran before coming to a decision.


Well, it would make sense to have more than one Veteran in a setup where there are multiple parties that can nightkill...



You seem to be confused. I'm not interested about the fact that there are multiple people role claiming as 'Veteran'. What I'm more interested about is the fact that these same two roles have different abilities, yet you seem to be fine with this.

We have you who claimed to be hit during the night, yet you are wondering if Iaaan's claim of a free nuke block during the day is true or not, going so far as to launch a nuke at him. Yet Iaaan is also claiming to be a veteran with a free nuke block and a free night hit block, and you don't find this surprising even when he roleclaimed the same role as you?

You seem quite casual about this and I can only guess that due to the difference of abilities of the same claimed roles:
One or both of you are lying about your roleclaims.


Yeah, except that laaan said that he will survive nukes yesterday, and I nuked him before he claimed veteran. You assume we have different abilities because he's assuming so, based on information I said I want to withhold.


What was the point in nuking him? Let's assume these things:
A) You are a veteran
B) Veteran ability entails a free night hit which is standard, but not as standard: a free nuke hit
C) Nobody mentions that they are immune to a single nuke hit until Iaaan mentions it

Given these three things, you still launch a nuke at Iaaan when only B is something Veterans could know. Iaaan could've guessed the ability, thinking it makes sense given that given that nukes are in the hands of 22 people, somebody ought to have nuke protection, even if it is a one-shot ability; however, the chance of this is very slim in my eyes, especially coupled with the fact that he says
On April 03 2010 06:46 Iaaan wrote:
On April 03 2010 01:37 Nikon wrote:
I am a Veteran. I took a hit last night.

With that out of the way - laaan, if I nuke you, do you think it will hit?


It will hit, but it wont kill me. Do you have nuke protection to? and are you arctica?


in response to you role claiming Veteran. He clearly says that veterans also have a one-shot day nuke protection. Yet you go ahead and nuke him and choose to withhold your capabilities even while roleclaiming? You realize the problem with this, right?

On top of this, you claim that your missile is fake which accomplishes absolutely nothing in terms of confirming whether Iaaan is truly veteran or not as his ability, which you should know, blocks a nuke hit because, as Iaaan puts it which you are also implying by not denying the fact that veterans have a one-shot nuke protection, it gives an extra life against nukes which means an actual nuke has to hit.

Because of this, your only purpose in sending that nuke is to accomplish one of two things:
A) Burn up an antinuke which you did so well with your first nuke, or
B) Burn up a veteran's extra nuke protection

Both of which do not help the town at all.

So perhaps you could explain why you thought that someone stating he possesses an ability that hasn't been mentioned by anybody until then which somehow conveniently matches your ability would deserve a nuke in order to prove this ability? If he's not veteran: congratulations, you probably killed scum since he lied, but this means you also lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If he is veteran: you burned his day protection and you lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If your missile is a dud: you accomplished nothing at all in terms of extra information for the town and we have no confirmation of your first missile.

What was really going through your mind when you decided to nuke Iaaan?


Nuke me to find out.


Why shouldn't we move forward to lynch Nikon? I'm not sure. ##Vote Nikon


Would be nice to know if you think someone other than Nikon redirected it...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
April 06 2010 20:07 GMT
#1995
On April 07 2010 03:48 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...Nemy...I was defending you homie...

Why so defensive?

Haster even agreed. Which Inf was the one using hasters statement IN his long post detailing the actions of the thread.

Citizen, how does your ability work. You can retaliate, OR only nuke people that nuke you...


Because Inf. framed it in a way that makes me look really bad? Doesn't really matter now that inf's not in the game anymore. Anyways...

I have a (very real) nuke coming towards me and I have pretty strong suspicions on who the nuke came from (well actually... who redirected it, I was the one who lobbed the nuke out there)

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 12:58 Nikon wrote:
On April 04 2010 01:15 Elemenope wrote:
On April 04 2010 00:21 Nikon wrote:
On April 03 2010 20:27 Elemenope wrote:
On April 03 2010 20:05 Nikon wrote:
On April 03 2010 17:02 Elemenope wrote:
On April 03 2010 13:50 Iaaan wrote:
Last, a solid roleclaim from me, I was being ambiguous before, I am Antarctica, a veteran. My powers are 1 extra life against nukes, and 1 extra life against night hits. This makes me suspicious of nikon still, if we are both veterans, why are our roles different? I asked him a little bit about his role on the last page, from what he has said it doesn't sound like he has an extra life against nukes.


This is interesting, and from this, only one thing comes to mind - though I'd like to hear Nikon's take about Iaaan claiming veteran before coming to a decision.


Well, it would make sense to have more than one Veteran in a setup where there are multiple parties that can nightkill...



You seem to be confused. I'm not interested about the fact that there are multiple people role claiming as 'Veteran'. What I'm more interested about is the fact that these same two roles have different abilities, yet you seem to be fine with this.

We have you who claimed to be hit during the night, yet you are wondering if Iaaan's claim of a free nuke block during the day is true or not, going so far as to launch a nuke at him. Yet Iaaan is also claiming to be a veteran with a free nuke block and a free night hit block, and you don't find this surprising even when he roleclaimed the same role as you?

You seem quite casual about this and I can only guess that due to the difference of abilities of the same claimed roles:
One or both of you are lying about your roleclaims.


Yeah, except that laaan said that he will survive nukes yesterday, and I nuked him before he claimed veteran. You assume we have different abilities because he's assuming so, based on information I said I want to withhold.


What was the point in nuking him? Let's assume these things:
A) You are a veteran
B) Veteran ability entails a free night hit which is standard, but not as standard: a free nuke hit
C) Nobody mentions that they are immune to a single nuke hit until Iaaan mentions it

Given these three things, you still launch a nuke at Iaaan when only B is something Veterans could know. Iaaan could've guessed the ability, thinking it makes sense given that given that nukes are in the hands of 22 people, somebody ought to have nuke protection, even if it is a one-shot ability; however, the chance of this is very slim in my eyes, especially coupled with the fact that he says
On April 03 2010 06:46 Iaaan wrote:
On April 03 2010 01:37 Nikon wrote:
I am a Veteran. I took a hit last night.

With that out of the way - laaan, if I nuke you, do you think it will hit?


It will hit, but it wont kill me. Do you have nuke protection to? and are you arctica?


in response to you role claiming Veteran. He clearly says that veterans also have a one-shot day nuke protection. Yet you go ahead and nuke him and choose to withhold your capabilities even while roleclaiming? You realize the problem with this, right?

On top of this, you claim that your missile is fake which accomplishes absolutely nothing in terms of confirming whether Iaaan is truly veteran or not as his ability, which you should know, blocks a nuke hit because, as Iaaan puts it which you are also implying by not denying the fact that veterans have a one-shot nuke protection, it gives an extra life against nukes which means an actual nuke has to hit.

Because of this, your only purpose in sending that nuke is to accomplish one of two things:
A) Burn up an antinuke which you did so well with your first nuke, or
B) Burn up a veteran's extra nuke protection

Both of which do not help the town at all.

So perhaps you could explain why you thought that someone stating he possesses an ability that hasn't been mentioned by anybody until then which somehow conveniently matches your ability would deserve a nuke in order to prove this ability? If he's not veteran: congratulations, you probably killed scum since he lied, but this means you also lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If he is veteran: you burned his day protection and you lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If your missile is a dud: you accomplished nothing at all in terms of extra information for the town and we have no confirmation of your first missile.

What was really going through your mind when you decided to nuke Iaaan?


Nuke me to find out.


Why shouldn't we move forward to lynch Nikon? I'm not sure. ##Vote Nikon

I'm just curious, why are you placing your vote on Nikon if you think someone else chose to direct the nuke?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 06 2010 21:10 GMT
#1996
... perhaps I have not made myself clear, Nikon was the one who redirected my nuke. Hence why I'm voting for him.

All in all it doesn't matter too much for me if I die at this point; I'm leaving town Wednesday morning and may or may not have limited internet access until Saturday/Sunday so my demise isn't going to be worth too much at this point. It hurts our numbers though... :/
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
April 06 2010 22:34 GMT
#1997
I don't see why your arguing for anyone other than nikon to be lynched, opz.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 07 2010 00:29 GMT
#1998
On April 07 2010 02:56 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 02:52 haster27 wrote:
Wait, citizen. Did you just replace infund?

Yup. China baby, whoo-hoo!

I like this guy ^_^
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Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2010 01:37 GMT
#1999
Doomsday is approaching!

[image loading]


nemy (Italy pro town Vanilla Towny) has been incinerated!


With 11 alive, it is 6 to lynch!

Caller(2)
Nikon
~Opz~


nemy(2)
Iaaan
JeeJee


No Lynch(1)
Abenson


Nikon(6)
Elemenope
haster27
Iaaan
Infundibulum(citizen)
JeeJee
d3_crescentia


Nikon is found to be the next target of a lynch and is eliminated! Nikon (Australian Survivor anti-town One shot Survivor) is gone!



Nukes detonated: 6
Radiation levels: HIGH


All night roles may send in their actions now! Night ends in 12-24 hours from this post.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
April 07 2010 01:40 GMT
#2000
wow the town seems effed
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
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