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haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
Abenson is town opz is town jeejee is town (fairly sure because of nuke steal) I think that it is safe to consider myself town at this point, nikon probably wouldnt be dying if not for me I think that fishball's role seems reasonable. Add yourself to the list (I'm thinking haster/infun) Uh oh, that is 6 townies. The town mafia ratio has to be 7:5. if it were 6:5 we would lose. I think 8:4 is unlikely considering how many there were originally. is seems logical that because d3 saved LMNOP, is d3 is mafia then LMNOP is mafia. and if LMNOP is innocent, d3 can't be mafia. However, there isn't enough room on the townie list for both of them, only one if you dont believe fishball and haster/infun are town. Thus, LMNOP and d3 are both mafia. We also have nikon confirmed mafia. This leaves Caller and nemy. One or both of them are mafia. If nemy is mafia, we are fine. But we should assume the worst and say he is town. If that is the case we need to either save him, OR kill a different member of the mafia today. Also, because nikon claimed to have taken a hit last night, he had to have known that no one would counter claim him. Either the mafia have 2 kp and they stacked, or they had one extra KP for some reason, or he just assumed the SK would not reveal himself. regarding the bus driver role, if caller is mafia, it could simply not exist, OR it could belong to town, and no one is claiming it because they would probably get lynched for claiming it. Sorry this isnt very organized, but I'm typing my ideas out as i think of them. So, Abenson opz jeejee fishball iaaan haster infun are town Nikon d3 LMNOP caller and/or nemy are mafia. | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
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haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
Confirmed Townies Abenson ~OpZ~ Likely Townies JeeJee Fishball Undecided d3_crescentia haster27 Elemenope iNfuNdiBuLuM laaan nemY Mafia suspect Nikon (lol) Caller We lynch Nikon for: concealing his abilities (wrong roleclaim) which clearly led to the disadvantage of the town. Fishball check one person from Undecided list to prevent potential Mafia from influencing his decisions, or at least try not to follow other's suggestions beside the ones coming from two confirmed Townie. Caller is also highly likely Mafia since Japan who saved him isn't stepping out, but let him also randomly check someone out of Undecided list as well just in case. Even if he is Mafia, we can use his night action claim as material to track down the Mafia later on. Also, laaan, I am sorry but I cannot place you in the Likely Townies list yet. You got out of suspect list because you cornered Nikon, and the fact that Nikon conveniently had counter-nuke abilities he could utilize makes me think you could have tried to stage all this. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
Although it is possible that you can't be blocked two nights in a row, like in past games. Regardless I would be using my powers anyways. Also, you're assuming that if I actually survive the Night  | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On April 06 2010 12:38 Iaaan wrote: Okay, what do you think about what I said about both LMNOP being red if d3 is red, and d3 being green if LMNOP is green? If you can group two people together it is pretty big, considering the number of players left; 7:5 town to mafia max, 8:4 MAYBE (not) The other possibility is that d3 is green and LMNOP is red. I don't think this is too far fetched, given how LMNOP was posting in the beginning he was being a big centerpiece of the town and has since become less active. These are just quick thoughts. I need to go through the thread to check something. | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
##vote: Nikon We vote to lynch Nikon to force him to tell us his real role. I believe he is either mafia/SK at this point, given his shoddy behavior so far, but it would be far more useful if he could actually disclose the powers of his role (i.e. if it can be used in the town's favor by redirection a suspicious nuke). For those of you that are worried about mafia hits on him if he turns out to be useable, the fact that he can draw hits away/make mafia think twice about firing nukes is enough. Of course, if he's actually SK/mafia, then he deserves to die, period. Second, I've actually been watching Elemenope for a while now after Xelin stepped up and claimed for NK; at first I found it rather odd that Xelin would think that (and given his previous track record I wasn't surprised). But since that point, it seems that Elemenope seems to have been cruising on his previous good posting and not saying much of substance. Yeah, yeah, I know - pot kettle black, but there's definitely some sort of inconsistency in his posting style. I really disagree with Iaaan's if X is red then so is Y kind of thinking, as from past experience it just doesn't work very well. What we actually have to watch out for is who ISN'T accusing whom, and the patterns that lie there. For that matter, Caller hasn't said shit about shit, and even if he DOES turn out to be town it's a high possibility that all of his DT info will be useless if he's paranoid. Nemy is also a good target. I would be a reasonable target as well, though at this point if you don't believe I'm town I don't have much I can do to convince you =/ Third, we have ~3 nukes before we run into danger zone for ToD. I definitely expect to see some nukes coming out of the woodwork, but we have to remember the risk of retaliation nukes. I am hoping some of our remaining townies have anti-nukes to fire in the next few days. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
Nuking Synopsis Day 1 1a. RoL fires nukes at Caller 1b. Japan shoots down RoL's nukes. 2. RoL is voted off the island. sorry, buddy  3. RoL fires nukes at JohnnySpazz as part of death-wish power 4. tree.hugger fires nukes to L 5. North Korea (Xelin) fires nukes at Elemenope 6. JSpazz fucks up his PM with Ace somehow (?) and explodes after failing to use his antinukes. Sounds like the USA to me! 7. L is saved from TH's nukes, however this is not clearly written in the day post and the country that fires the antinukes is left out. Upon further examination of the thread, Bill Murray, who is India, claims to have saved L. 8a. Versatile fires nukes at L. 8b. Bill Murray fires nukes at Versatile. Fake 8c. Versatile fires retaliation nukes at Bill Murray. 9. Sweden shoots down the nukes from North Korea headed towards Elemenope. d3_crescentia later claims to be Sweden. 10. L fires nukes at Caller. Fake, day extender 11a. L, Egypt, explodes (thanks, Versatile/tree.hugger). 11b. Bill Murray, India, explodes (thanks, Versatile). 12. OpZ fires nukes at tree.hugger. Tree.hugger, in a rare and spectacular showing of restraint and self control, does not retaliate. 13. Nikon fires nukes at Zona 14. tree.hugger explodes without as much as a murmur of protest. Goodnight, sweet prince. 15a. OpZ debates anti-nuking Zona, but it appears he can't/won't (Abenson has the anti-nukes?) 15b. Nikon claims that his nuke is fake 15c. The United Kingdom {Abenson} shoots down Nikon's nukes Night 1 {{Finally}} 1. meeple killed 2. Amber killed 3. Ace almost modkills Xelin, but withholds. 4. JeeJee's nukes are stolen by Colombia, meaning he is very probably town. Is also roleblocked. 5. Fishball checks Caller, who visited meeple 6. Caller says he checked Nikon but got meeple who showed up as red and something weird happened that I still don't understand? Day 2 1a. Xelin fires nukes at Zona 1b. Xelin claims his nuke is fake. 2. Zona, Iraq, explodes, in a rough approximation of the gulf war. 3. Xelin is voted off the island. but he actually turns into an alien cockraoch thing and flies away in his spaceship, plotting his return to Earth... Night 2 1.Versatile, the Russki, is killed, da. 2. Fishballs is roleblocked 3. Abenson has his nukes stolen, but not really, since OpZ actually had them (lol). 4. Caller checks d3, alignment returned is red. Day 3 1a. haster27 claims to be Portugal, vanilla 1b. OpZ claims Canada, mason 1c. Abenson claims U.K., mason 1d. Elemenope claims Vietnam, vanilla 1e. Infun claims China, paranoid gun owner 1f. d3_crescentia claims to be Sweden 1g. Fishball claims to be France, tracker 1h. Caller claims to be Israel, alignment cop 1i. Nemy claims to be Italy, w/ 2 nukes 2. Nikon claims to be a veteran and to have taken a hit. Offers to nuke iaaan to test his abilities. 3. Nikon fires nukes at iaaan, in order to confirm that his Day 1 nukes were in fact fake. 4. Abenson and OpZ fake nuke each other to extend the day. 5a. Nikons nuke is a fake after all. 5b. LMNOP: "What were you thinking when you nuked iaaan?" Nikon: "Nuke me to find out." 6. Nemy returns. Fires nukes at Nikon because he thinks the town wants him to. Actually, not many people were on so it's hard to say what anyone really wanted. 7. The nukes are reflected back to Nemy. I bet a lot of people missed this post: On March 27 2010 08:26 Versatile wrote: i wish someone had the power to redirect nukes. Well Versatile, your wish has been granted. Rejoice! 8. Here we now are, standing at the edge of tomorrow. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On March 31 2010 05:05 Abenson wrote: Wait, just to make sure. I cannot post since I'm sleeping right? These posts made me lol. On March 30 2010 05:56 Zona wrote: Hey guys, let's play spot a REAL contradiction. Here's an easy one to start off: Very consistent so far! I wonder what's coming next? This is a good post by Zona recapping some of Nikon's earlier posts. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On April 06 2010 11:39 Abenson wrote: This mafia forum has been REALLY healthy for my post count :O I've over 405 posts now Here is my post breakdown: 5% : Posts on TL.net 94%: 1% : Posting something helpful for the town 2400 and going. Then again, most are from LRing. But who cares about post count | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On April 06 2010 11:46 haster27 wrote: ...Okay, time for calmness. It is highly likely Nikon has reflect the nuke-back ability, and he is clearly Mafia for hiding this ability. Since we cannot remove him by nuke, this makes him a high possibility Mafia target. Also, does this move prove nemY as Town also since he is currently being targetted by highly likely Mafia nuke? At least, it is obvious we need to intercept it to keep Townie numbers high. There are also another possibility; Mafia has someone with ability that can affect 'any' nukes in the air, and is using it to frame Nikon, but considering the situation I feel this is extremely unlikely. Finally, what do we do with Caller - who is under fire due to Japan not roleclaiming - since nemY nuke turned out to be ineffective? Do we nuke him or keep him alive for the next day lynch? What? Don't you think that it's better to conceal it on the chance that a mafia nukes me? If I claim it, it becomes quite useless in that regard, don't you think? | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
6. Nemy returns. Fires nukes at Nikon because he thinks the town wants him to. Actually, not many people were on so it's hard to say what anyone really wanted. 7. The nukes are reflected back to Nemy. I bet a lot of people missed this post: I guess in the big picture not a lot of people were "explicitly" for it, but the people who have contributed the most/maybe most helpful to the town were the ones CALLING for it. On April 05 2010 07:43 ~OpZ~ wrote: Or Iaaan I guess to extend the day... but Nemy...Your job is to nuke Nikon. If not, you not you might as well claim mafia right now.... On April 05 2010 08:40 Iaaan wrote: ##nuke abenson to extend the day because I don't really have any nukes ^.^ Just waiting for nemy to nuke nikon O: On April 05 2010 10:03 JeeJee wrote: you have as many retaliatory nukes as u want i thought? so i figured i might as well retal vs u otherwise that one will be wasted but since iaaan tossed out a fake nuke, doesn't really matter still waiting on nemy to toss a nuke nikon's way On April 06 2010 09:00 Elemenope wrote: I don't really havea nything new to say other than thanks for the anti-nuke d3? I still have my suspicions of Caller, nikon, d3, nemy due to previous reasons listed. Nemy launched his nuke against Nikon which is what we wanted him to do to prove nikon's veteran status which is what this whole thing hinges around. Unless you have any specific questions, I'm not sure what else to contribute until this nuke lands. | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
Welcome to WaW! This is a thematic Mafia game in which every player represents a country on the map. All Countries are divided into 2 factions: The Allies (pro-town) and The Conspiracy (Mafia). I'm quoting this because I've seen a lot of talk about there being a third party in this mafia game. I highly doubt? there actually is, but perhaps there are two mafia factions? | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
We vote Caller CALLER IS MAFIA. Town wouldn't lie about claiming and JAPAN hasn't been claimed ='s Japan is mafia. Can we kill Caller and get this over with, THEN lynch Nikon? (Ace really should have linked nuke land posts + Night/days to first page) | ||
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