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Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
April 07 2010 01:47 GMT
#2001
looks like the town loses with tonight's hit. Doubt there is a 3rd faction. unless it happens to be 6:4 split, which i doubt.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
April 07 2010 02:17 GMT
#2002
On April 07 2010 10:47 Iaaan wrote:
looks like the town loses with tonight's hit. Doubt there is a 3rd faction. unless it happens to be 6:4 split, which i doubt.

Ace would presumably end the game if there was no mathematical way for one of the parties to win.

At least we lynched an anti-town player in Nikon I guess.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
April 07 2010 02:41 GMT
#2003
At least one thing is clear; Japan is Mafia, thus Caller is Mafia. The town either have no anti-nukes, or Townie having anti-nukes were afraid of using it because people were saying how Japan handles this missile will verify it's intentions. At least we have firm plan on who to lynch tomorrow; although all of us Townies will probably have to vote, I am hoping some Mafia will join in on the Caller bandwagon as well because voting someone else is going to be blatant anti-town move. Actually it would be much better if SK could hit him and leave us one less Mafia to deal with, of course.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
April 07 2010 03:13 GMT
#2004
The way HIGH is in all-caps worries me, and makes me think we have far less nukes to ToD than I thought there would be. If the town still has anti-nukes, for the love of god let's be ready.

Since Nikon was 3rd party, the results of tonight will show us whether or not he was responsible for making the hits, or if there's one more 3rd party lurking out there. The OP is pretty clear in that the mafia only have 1KP; I'm actually more concerned if that if Survivor =/= SK then we have a rogue agent out there killing people... in which case we need him to target one of the more obvious mafia suspects so we don't lose.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 07 2010 03:13 GMT
#2005
On April 07 2010 10:37 Ace wrote:
Nikon is found to be the next target of a lynch and is eliminated! Nikon (Australian Survivor anti-town One shot Survivor) is gone!


WE GOT A SCUM
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 07 2010 03:17 GMT
#2006
Theory:
It may now be mathematically impossible for us to win, BUT Ace did not end the game because there is a chance that we as the town will collectively agree to nuke at the same time to kill off our planet and get a No-win situation.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
April 07 2010 04:01 GMT
#2007
Oh yeah, I got lynched while I was sleeping, that's really low. I hope you lose.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 07 2010 04:14 GMT
#2008
On April 07 2010 12:13 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 10:37 Ace wrote:
Nikon is found to be the next target of a lynch and is eliminated! Nikon (Australian Survivor anti-town One shot Survivor) is gone!


WE GOT A SCUM

Obvious statement is obvious.

On April 07 2010 13:01 Nikon wrote:
Oh yeah, I got lynched while I was sleeping, that's really low. I hope you lose.

Sleep is for the weak.
Sleep is for the lost.
Sleep is for those who have nothing better to do.
Sleep when you're dead...owait.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
April 07 2010 04:15 GMT
#2009
~Opz~, Abenson, what other powers do you have besides being able to talk in PM's and transferring nukes?

Can you elaborate more on the nuke transfer? How often can you use it? Is there a limit?
靈魂交響曲
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
April 07 2010 04:42 GMT
#2010
An updated version of Haster's list.

d3_crescentia Sweden Townie
JeeJee Claims pro-town, role unknown
~OpZ~ Canada Mason
Caller Egypt Alignment Cop
haster27 Portugal Townie
Elemenope Vietnam Townie
iNfuNdiBuLuM China Paranoid Gun Owner
Fishball France Tracker
laaan Antarctica Veteran
Abenson United Kingdom Mason

- If what you guys claimed were true, there is a Nuke-Stealer among us. Not entirely sure about the SK though.
- Japan should be on the list but is missing.

I'm guessing there are at least 3 more anti-town players among us and are lying. In a game this size, having 4-5 Mafia sounds about right.
靈魂交響曲
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 07 2010 12:39 GMT
#2011
On April 07 2010 13:15 Fishball wrote:
~Opz~, Abenson, what other powers do you have besides being able to talk in PM's and transferring nukes?

Can you elaborate more on the nuke transfer? How often can you use it? Is there a limit?


This would be something the Nuke stealer would like to know.

Who are you tracking tonight. And who is caller checking?

hopefully your following d3 and caller is checking Haster/LMNOP

But any rate, I'm voting Caller tomorrow. If japan is town aligned, Japan sucks.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 07 2010 12:47 GMT
#2012
On April 07 2010 11:41 haster27 wrote:
At least one thing is clear; Japan is Mafia, thus Caller is Mafia. The town either have no anti-nukes, or Townie having anti-nukes were afraid of using it because people were saying how Japan handles this missile will verify it's intentions. At least we have firm plan on who to lynch tomorrow; although all of us Townies will probably have to vote, I am hoping some Mafia will join in on the Caller bandwagon as well because voting someone else is going to be blatant anti-town move. Actually it would be much better if SK could hit him and leave us one less Mafia to deal with, of course.

I pointed this out yesterday. And everyone decided Nikon was a better target. I even suggested that NIKON WAS THE THIRD PARTY. It would A)Explain the nuke rebound and B)Explain the night hit he took. Third party's usually are a combo of vet and vig.

I'm fed up with you, and I honestly think one of you and LMNOP are mafia. I'm all for lynching you to tell you the truth. I had Caller confirmed as Mafia YESTERDAY, and we lynch Nikon because "He lied about his ability so he should die" YES he SHOULD. But look at me, I seemed to catch on he was third party, and where'd my vote stay? ON CALLER, where EVERYONE else's should of been.

On April 06 2010 19:50 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 11:51 haster27 wrote:
That is possible, since nemY also was one to come out of nowhere and volunteer nuke him according to what Town was saying. However, with so little Townie numbers left, I am reluctant about risking decreasing townie number further.

Show nested quote +
INfund:
"Nemy returns. Fires nukes at Nikon because he thinks the town wants him to. Actually, not many people were on so it's hard to say what anyone really wanted."


Shit, I was under the impression he was following my suggestion. I believe a few agreed with me on that respect. One suspect nuking another suspect? God...Haster....Stop adding more and more to my suspicions. You even agreed it was a good idea to verify Iaaan AND/OR Nikon.
Lookie here...LMNOP was pretty much the first to attack Nikon after the two vet claims. Nikon could be third party...Honestly, it would make sense for him to claim vet, because he prob had an extra night/day life being third party.


Well...That's fun fun yes?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
April 07 2010 13:41 GMT
#2013
On April 07 2010 21:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 13:15 Fishball wrote:
~Opz~, Abenson, what other powers do you have besides being able to talk in PM's and transferring nukes?

Can you elaborate more on the nuke transfer? How often can you use it? Is there a limit?


This would be something the Nuke stealer would like to know.

Who are you tracking tonight. And who is caller checking?

hopefully your following d3 and caller is checking Haster/LMNOP

But any rate, I'm voting Caller tomorrow. If japan is town aligned, Japan sucks.


Ok, let me change the question a bit. What makes you think the nuke stealer would target one of you two, a variable, instead of someone else that can't transfer, a constant? Hell, someone like China have 3 nukes just sitting there. Also, what makes you think your nuke(s) are so much more important than others?
靈魂交響曲
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
April 07 2010 13:48 GMT
#2014
On April 07 2010 21:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 11:41 haster27 wrote:
At least one thing is clear; Japan is Mafia, thus Caller is Mafia. The town either have no anti-nukes, or Townie having anti-nukes were afraid of using it because people were saying how Japan handles this missile will verify it's intentions. At least we have firm plan on who to lynch tomorrow; although all of us Townies will probably have to vote, I am hoping some Mafia will join in on the Caller bandwagon as well because voting someone else is going to be blatant anti-town move. Actually it would be much better if SK could hit him and leave us one less Mafia to deal with, of course.

I pointed this out yesterday. And everyone decided Nikon was a better target. I even suggested that NIKON WAS THE THIRD PARTY. It would A)Explain the nuke rebound and B)Explain the night hit he took. Third party's usually are a combo of vet and vig.

I'm fed up with you, and I honestly think one of you and LMNOP are mafia. I'm all for lynching you to tell you the truth. I had Caller confirmed as Mafia YESTERDAY, and we lynch Nikon because "He lied about his ability so he should die" YES he SHOULD. But look at me, I seemed to catch on he was third party, and where'd my vote stay? ON CALLER, where EVERYONE else's should of been.

Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 19:50 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On April 06 2010 11:51 haster27 wrote:
That is possible, since nemY also was one to come out of nowhere and volunteer nuke him according to what Town was saying. However, with so little Townie numbers left, I am reluctant about risking decreasing townie number further.

INfund:
"Nemy returns. Fires nukes at Nikon because he thinks the town wants him to. Actually, not many people were on so it's hard to say what anyone really wanted."


Shit, I was under the impression he was following my suggestion. I believe a few agreed with me on that respect. One suspect nuking another suspect? God...Haster....Stop adding more and more to my suspicions. You even agreed it was a good idea to verify Iaaan AND/OR Nikon.
Lookie here...LMNOP was pretty much the first to attack Nikon after the two vet claims. Nikon could be third party...Honestly, it would make sense for him to claim vet, because he prob had an extra night/day life being third party.


Well...That's fun fun yes?


Just FYI, there is no way to prove that Nikon is the third party, even after his death post. I'm not saying he is or is not, but there is just no way to prove it at this point. Also, as scummy as Caller looks, people lynching Nikon was the most logical move after the nuke reflection.
靈魂交響曲
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
April 07 2010 15:19 GMT
#2015
On April 07 2010 22:41 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 21:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On April 07 2010 13:15 Fishball wrote:
~Opz~, Abenson, what other powers do you have besides being able to talk in PM's and transferring nukes?

Can you elaborate more on the nuke transfer? How often can you use it? Is there a limit?


This would be something the Nuke stealer would like to know.

Who are you tracking tonight. And who is caller checking?

hopefully your following d3 and caller is checking Haster/LMNOP

But any rate, I'm voting Caller tomorrow. If japan is town aligned, Japan sucks.


Ok, let me change the question a bit. What makes you think the nuke stealer would target one of you two, a variable, instead of someone else that can't transfer, a constant? Hell, someone like China have 3 nukes just sitting there. Also, what makes you think your nuke(s) are so much more important than others?

This was a very odd exchange. I don't see why a pro-town player would seriously advocate ~OpZ~/Abenson post on the forum how often they can transfer their nukes. Then you try to deflect and start talking about why anyone would steal their nukes.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 07 2010 15:26 GMT
#2016
so my impression based on the night post is that nikon was third party SK (anti-town, and "survivor" which fits in with the whole SK win condition of being the last survivor). of course we cannot really confirm this until day post, but i'm pretty sure we will see one less night kill. this is actually pretty good as if i'm right, we cut the KP in half, giving us way more breathing room.

assuming the above is true, the other thing to note is that after day post, there will be 9 players alive, meaning there cannot be 5 mafia, since mafia's win condition from OP:
Mafia win if they control majority of the town at any point during the day.


not much else to say until day post i suppose.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
April 07 2010 15:31 GMT
#2017
On April 07 2010 21:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 11:41 haster27 wrote:
At least one thing is clear; Japan is Mafia, thus Caller is Mafia. The town either have no anti-nukes, or Townie having anti-nukes were afraid of using it because people were saying how Japan handles this missile will verify it's intentions. At least we have firm plan on who to lynch tomorrow; although all of us Townies will probably have to vote, I am hoping some Mafia will join in on the Caller bandwagon as well because voting someone else is going to be blatant anti-town move. Actually it would be much better if SK could hit him and leave us one less Mafia to deal with, of course.

I pointed this out yesterday. And everyone decided Nikon was a better target. I even suggested that NIKON WAS THE THIRD PARTY. It would A)Explain the nuke rebound and B)Explain the night hit he took. Third party's usually are a combo of vet and vig.

I'm fed up with you, and I honestly think one of you and LMNOP are mafia. I'm all for lynching you to tell you the truth. I had Caller confirmed as Mafia YESTERDAY, and we lynch Nikon because "He lied about his ability so he should die" YES he SHOULD. But look at me, I seemed to catch on he was third party, and where'd my vote stay? ON CALLER, where EVERYONE else's should of been.

Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 19:50 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On April 06 2010 11:51 haster27 wrote:
That is possible, since nemY also was one to come out of nowhere and volunteer nuke him according to what Town was saying. However, with so little Townie numbers left, I am reluctant about risking decreasing townie number further.

INfund:
"Nemy returns. Fires nukes at Nikon because he thinks the town wants him to. Actually, not many people were on so it's hard to say what anyone really wanted."


Shit, I was under the impression he was following my suggestion. I believe a few agreed with me on that respect. One suspect nuking another suspect? God...Haster....Stop adding more and more to my suspicions. You even agreed it was a good idea to verify Iaaan AND/OR Nikon.
Lookie here...LMNOP was pretty much the first to attack Nikon after the two vet claims. Nikon could be third party...Honestly, it would make sense for him to claim vet, because he prob had an extra night/day life being third party.


Well...That's fun fun yes?

...Okay. Despite you are starting to become annoying, let me answer your post with civility.

I read all of your posts since Nikon reflected back the nuke, and that one sentence was the only time you suggested that Nikon might have been third party; the meat of your argument was that Caller should be the target because he was surely going to be 100% Mafia. And I answered clearly and consistently, NIkon must be lynched because he cannot be nuked unlike Caller.

Since NIkon now has died, of course I should refocus the Town effort into lynching Caller, especially since all of us will have to vote for him to overcome Mafia votes.

What I cannot comprehend is why you would be fed up with me for advocating Nikon lynch, while you conveniently ignore the fact everyone voted him also just like you repeatedly stated in your post. Nikon encouraged people to nuke him- and his general behaviour not only convinced me but others that he should be the one up for the lynch day 2. Seriously, if I did not know you were Mason, I would think you were trying to bandwagon me or something.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2010 16:52 GMT
#2018
Just to let you guys know Nikon was not Mafia, he was 3rd party. That's why it's written in black and not red/
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
April 07 2010 18:16 GMT
#2019
On April 08 2010 00:19 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 22:41 Fishball wrote:
On April 07 2010 21:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On April 07 2010 13:15 Fishball wrote:
~Opz~, Abenson, what other powers do you have besides being able to talk in PM's and transferring nukes?

Can you elaborate more on the nuke transfer? How often can you use it? Is there a limit?


This would be something the Nuke stealer would like to know.

Who are you tracking tonight. And who is caller checking?

hopefully your following d3 and caller is checking Haster/LMNOP

But any rate, I'm voting Caller tomorrow. If japan is town aligned, Japan sucks.


Ok, let me change the question a bit. What makes you think the nuke stealer would target one of you two, a variable, instead of someone else that can't transfer, a constant? Hell, someone like China have 3 nukes just sitting there. Also, what makes you think your nuke(s) are so much more important than others?

This was a very odd exchange. I don't see why a pro-town player would seriously advocate ~OpZ~/Abenson post on the forum how often they can transfer their nukes. Then you try to deflect and start talking about why anyone would steal their nukes.


I only talked about the "stealing the nukes" because Opz said only the Nuke Stealer would be interested in such info. Why? Hence my questions. If you seriously think this is a "deflection" on my part, then I shouldn't even bother.

On April 08 2010 01:52 Ace wrote:
Just to let you guys know Nikon was not Mafia, he was 3rd party. That's why it's written in black and not red/


This statement clears up a lot of things. There are so many ambiguous things in this game, I wasn't sure if the color had any special meaning.
靈魂交響曲
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
April 07 2010 18:20 GMT
#2020
On April 08 2010 00:31 haster27 wrote:
NIkon must be lynched because he cannot be nuked unlike Caller.


If "One shot Survivor" in Ace's post is meant what it is supposed to mean, Nikon should be able to reflect 1 nuke only.
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