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On March 16 2010 10:11 Bill Murray wrote: L is obviously not speaking the truth... he's claiming he thinks i'm red. that is an obvious lie. he just wants me killed. Lol goon #2.
In other news, can someone point me to the post wherein flamewheel says in all likelihood there will only be 1 blue role each?
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On March 16 2010 10:09 l10f wrote: I'm predicting two greens... What's the use of this post?
Also, it seems you're here at the deadline: You're one of the people who needs to post more thoughts, even if you're not really sure about things. If you're not mafia you're doing a good job of helping them hide by being inactive like some of them surely also are.
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zona- do the math. if BC (plus town) doesn't find a mafia member by day 4, worse case scenario, where the medics don't prevent any hits and we lynch a town member every day, we're 11 v 5. that's 6 successful mafia hits in 3 nights, and 3 towny lynches. now imagine BC is mafia. a DT who hasn't found a red for 3 days, that's not completely impossible, right? that's 11 vs 7 votes, and since when has the town ever voted to together as one?
also, note that this doesn't take possible vigi hits into count, against town or mafia.
we need action way before day 4, and this next day is going to be an important one.
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On March 16 2010 10:11 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2010 10:01 citi.zen wrote:On March 16 2010 09:55 L wrote:On March 16 2010 09:52 citi.zen wrote:On March 16 2010 09:04 L wrote:On March 16 2010 08:59 citi.zen wrote: Who cares what BM is? There is no way it can "prove" jack about L. Also, thanks for the geneorus "offer" - as if I can enforce anything by myself - rolf. I'd kinda like to kill a mafia member, so I care if he's red. You should probably care too if you want to think about who's mafia and who isn't. Nice attempt to distract, but it fails, again. Let me explain it slower: of course we care what BM is (duh - what a non-starter); however, Bill's color proves nothing about you, so the "offer" to be killed if Bill is not red is yet more nonsense from you. If Bill is Red, any of the following could be true: 1. You're red too, trying to gain credibility. I've seen you play as mafia and turning in other mafia to gain credibility. It failed, by the way. Bonus quote (hi!): On March 10 2010 13:44 L wrote: Dear Bill,
If we were both mafia, I'd still want you dead because you're terrible and would probably ruin our plans, be afk during important votes, do stupid shit in PMs, forget to post in thread because you're on IRC pretending you have a big penis, etc.
Yours cordially,
- L
P.S. If you're not mafia, I'm happy regardless. If I'm town, I'm happy we have one less retard shitting up the thread. If I'm mafia; Lol ur dead choo choo pain train. 2. You are not red. Then you either took a lucky guess (in which case you'd say "oops!"), or you are speaking for a DT who role-checked him. In this case I question the DT's choice of 1st night check (lord help us), and wonder why you did not in fact state this in the thread, or use someone else to speak it for you. Because really, you have not made anything resembling a strong case against Bill thus far. You build much of "reputation" on "holding people accountable", yet in this game all you have done is try to cover up nonsense with more nonsense. I don't care that you are doing it on purpose, it is not helping the town. So you're saying that I'm covering up nonsense by trying to kill someone who clearly fucked our day 1 votes up? Ok. That's the end of me listening to you, goon. Surprise, you're at it again - I call nonsense! Pay attention: my post is not about who you are trying to kill, or whether Bill fucked up. It is about the fact that Bill's color proves nothing about yours. That is the one part you consistently ignore and just talk nonsense about other shit. Like I said, play as you wish, but this ain't helping. I don't care what his colour proves about mine. I never said I'd be confirmed if he flipped, or mafia if he didn't. So why are you trying to put words in my mouth? Ah, lol, there I go again, talking to the goon. My bad. I hope your team made you GF this game because that would make my job easier.
ROLF - you are casually calling me red again? You never explained how my "voting pattern" made me look red last time by the way. Please delight us with your brilliance, great L.+ Show Spoiler +I'm not interested in your ad-hominem attacks and name calling.
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By the way, nice job changing your mind about what you did and didn't way again. Almost missed that one, you're pretty good at this.
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On March 16 2010 10:19 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2010 10:11 L wrote:On March 16 2010 10:01 citi.zen wrote:On March 16 2010 09:55 L wrote:On March 16 2010 09:52 citi.zen wrote:On March 16 2010 09:04 L wrote:On March 16 2010 08:59 citi.zen wrote: Who cares what BM is? There is no way it can "prove" jack about L. Also, thanks for the geneorus "offer" - as if I can enforce anything by myself - rolf. I'd kinda like to kill a mafia member, so I care if he's red. You should probably care too if you want to think about who's mafia and who isn't. Nice attempt to distract, but it fails, again. Let me explain it slower: of course we care what BM is (duh - what a non-starter); however, Bill's color proves nothing about you, so the "offer" to be killed if Bill is not red is yet more nonsense from you. If Bill is Red, any of the following could be true: 1. You're red too, trying to gain credibility. I've seen you play as mafia and turning in other mafia to gain credibility. It failed, by the way. Bonus quote (hi!): On March 10 2010 13:44 L wrote: Dear Bill,
If we were both mafia, I'd still want you dead because you're terrible and would probably ruin our plans, be afk during important votes, do stupid shit in PMs, forget to post in thread because you're on IRC pretending you have a big penis, etc.
Yours cordially,
- L
P.S. If you're not mafia, I'm happy regardless. If I'm town, I'm happy we have one less retard shitting up the thread. If I'm mafia; Lol ur dead choo choo pain train. 2. You are not red. Then you either took a lucky guess (in which case you'd say "oops!"), or you are speaking for a DT who role-checked him. In this case I question the DT's choice of 1st night check (lord help us), and wonder why you did not in fact state this in the thread, or use someone else to speak it for you. Because really, you have not made anything resembling a strong case against Bill thus far. You build much of "reputation" on "holding people accountable", yet in this game all you have done is try to cover up nonsense with more nonsense. I don't care that you are doing it on purpose, it is not helping the town. So you're saying that I'm covering up nonsense by trying to kill someone who clearly fucked our day 1 votes up? Ok. That's the end of me listening to you, goon. Surprise, you're at it again - I call nonsense! Pay attention: my post is not about who you are trying to kill, or whether Bill fucked up. It is about the fact that Bill's color proves nothing about yours. That is the one part you consistently ignore and just talk nonsense about other shit. Like I said, play as you wish, but this ain't helping. I don't care what his colour proves about mine. I never said I'd be confirmed if he flipped, or mafia if he didn't. So why are you trying to put words in my mouth? Ah, lol, there I go again, talking to the goon. My bad. I hope your team made you GF this game because that would make my job easier. ROLF - you are casually calling me red again? You never explained how my "voting pattern" made me look red last time by the way. Please delight us with your brilliance, great L. + Show Spoiler +I'm not interested in your ad-hominem attacks and name calling. This wasn't casual.
You realize I called you a goon the last few times, right? Ie, vanilla mafia?
Good lord you're bad.
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way=say. You changed your mind about implying red Bill = innocent L.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Night 2:
The town, still in a bit of an uproar from last night’s murders, had selected their next victim. As Abenson was dragged to the chopping block, he continued to spam 1-liners and nonsensical phrases. Disgusted, the executioner didn’t even wait for the get-go and pulled the lever, severing Abenson’s head from his body. While Abenson was actually innocent, he was thought to be mafia, and tonight’s execution was a fitting end for a town Miller.
Disgusted at their inability to catch mafia, the town prepared to leave again to prepare for the night.
And then, down from the heavens came…
+ Show Spoiler +Fuck yeah, you guessed it: lightning.
The bolt arced toward a certain individual that had decided to stay away from the town affairs, a certain shady individual that had taken this time to sharpen his blades from on top of the roof.
Screaming, Malongo fell off the rooftop, scorched by lightning, and upon impacting the ground, left but a large red splat on the pavement.
Immediately following this event, there came an odd rumbling sound from high up in the clouds. If you had asked the citizens of Liquiville, they all would’ve sworn to you that it sounded like a laugh.
Abenson the Miller has been lynched. Malongo the Mafioso has been modkilled.
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Night roles, get me your stuff. You have until 9:00 EST tomorrow, which is Tuesday, March 16th, 2010.
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f5 f5 f5 f5 Ooh I guess I'm win? Lol.
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On March 16 2010 10:20 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2010 10:19 citi.zen wrote:On March 16 2010 10:11 L wrote:On March 16 2010 10:01 citi.zen wrote:On March 16 2010 09:55 L wrote:On March 16 2010 09:52 citi.zen wrote:On March 16 2010 09:04 L wrote:On March 16 2010 08:59 citi.zen wrote: Who cares what BM is? There is no way it can "prove" jack about L. Also, thanks for the geneorus "offer" - as if I can enforce anything by myself - rolf. I'd kinda like to kill a mafia member, so I care if he's red. You should probably care too if you want to think about who's mafia and who isn't. Nice attempt to distract, but it fails, again. Let me explain it slower: of course we care what BM is (duh - what a non-starter); however, Bill's color proves nothing about you, so the "offer" to be killed if Bill is not red is yet more nonsense from you. If Bill is Red, any of the following could be true: 1. You're red too, trying to gain credibility. I've seen you play as mafia and turning in other mafia to gain credibility. It failed, by the way. Bonus quote (hi!): On March 10 2010 13:44 L wrote: Dear Bill,
If we were both mafia, I'd still want you dead because you're terrible and would probably ruin our plans, be afk during important votes, do stupid shit in PMs, forget to post in thread because you're on IRC pretending you have a big penis, etc.
Yours cordially,
- L
P.S. If you're not mafia, I'm happy regardless. If I'm town, I'm happy we have one less retard shitting up the thread. If I'm mafia; Lol ur dead choo choo pain train. 2. You are not red. Then you either took a lucky guess (in which case you'd say "oops!"), or you are speaking for a DT who role-checked him. In this case I question the DT's choice of 1st night check (lord help us), and wonder why you did not in fact state this in the thread, or use someone else to speak it for you. Because really, you have not made anything resembling a strong case against Bill thus far. You build much of "reputation" on "holding people accountable", yet in this game all you have done is try to cover up nonsense with more nonsense. I don't care that you are doing it on purpose, it is not helping the town. So you're saying that I'm covering up nonsense by trying to kill someone who clearly fucked our day 1 votes up? Ok. That's the end of me listening to you, goon. Surprise, you're at it again - I call nonsense! Pay attention: my post is not about who you are trying to kill, or whether Bill fucked up. It is about the fact that Bill's color proves nothing about yours. That is the one part you consistently ignore and just talk nonsense about other shit. Like I said, play as you wish, but this ain't helping. I don't care what his colour proves about mine. I never said I'd be confirmed if he flipped, or mafia if he didn't. So why are you trying to put words in my mouth? Ah, lol, there I go again, talking to the goon. My bad. I hope your team made you GF this game because that would make my job easier. ROLF - you are casually calling me red again? You never explained how my "voting pattern" made me look red last time by the way. Please delight us with your brilliance, great L. + Show Spoiler +I'm not interested in your ad-hominem attacks and name calling. This wasn't casual. You realize I called you a goon the last few times, right? Ie, vanilla mafia? Good lord you're bad.
Oh, please do follow up with your accusations.
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I am confirmed green now. PM me your roles.
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yay
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On March 16 2010 10:21 Incognito wrote: f5 f5 f5 f5 Ooh I guess I'm win? Lol.
Good job man. Also nice we got rid of a miller.
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I would lynch Malongo. From the get go, he was backing L. Malongo Chile. March 11 2010 11:28. Posts 2786 PM Profile Blog Quote dont be a pussy ^ trust that guy seems legit. posting that right underneath
When called on it, sure, he may have started arguing with him some. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. I feel like his late candidacy was a ploy by the mafia to make it look like he was green. It is also fishy because at that point L was behind significantly.
from page 24 i am confirmed green start a circle around me. pm me your roles.
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On March 12 2010 16:00 Malongo wrote:So after reading the full thread i just got convinced of some things: A) Balance wise, it is more than likely that one of the runners is mafia. This has happened many times in terms of distribution, for those that doesnt know rol distribution is not completely random. B) Having a mafia in the office is a lot worse this game imo. At least other times/games mafia member in the office was reduced to a)troll the town as long as he could, b) waste any resources given to him. Normally this ends up with a lynch day 2~4 because it gets plain obvious when the mafia official is not doing what he meant when he was running and because theres not that much he can do to hurt the town. However, with 2 KP and noclue setup it is highly unlikely that a mafia official can be spotted that quickly. C) Blues should be running for the office. However this is not completely sure in this case, since Incognito, BC and L are good enough to run even with a less powerful rol /green or vet/ D) Activity is the only thing we can get other than votes to nail mafia. In this case im afraid a lot of players have misunderstood active with "posting". As long as we spam less important stuff it is as if we werent posting. Not trying to be a douche, but please try to be as accurate and put some weight in the posting. This is critical to help the town identify if you are really trying to help or just posting to note that you are not inactive. E) There are various nonvoters up to now. This is scary as hell combined with A. With just 1~3 mafia in this list we are going to get in trouble. 8. johnnyspazz 10. sidesprang 17. d3_crescentia 18. L 21. Foolishness 25. BloodyC0bbler So with all these things im proposing myself to fill one of the spots. Malongo is Running For Officials My platform is based on:A) I have a "decent" skill at reading the strategy from the mafia. This has been agreed from various veteran players. Most of the time i work on my own private analisys that i put up when it is better for the town. B) I feel im very valuable at the middle~late game state. I ve came up with some half decent plays like the ghetto checklists, and other stuff from the setup. C) Im a town player in the sense that i ve always tried my best to support the town. If it is good for the town to sacrifice me ill do it gladly. D) I always come up with this at the begginnig of the game: first day is more than anything a random start, where we cant be sure about anything. If my process is right there is at least one mafia in those 3. That is a high chance that we will put a good mafia player in the office. By adding myself at this stage im giving another chance to the town since it is quite unlikely that there are 2 or 3 mafias running in a group of 4. Thats it. I expect my late run doesnt look really that weird since it is likely that i dont get votes anyways 
On March 12 2010 16:12 L wrote: Oh hey, good of you to join the party.
Did you finally get picked for the mafia team? If not, are you claiming blue by running? Who would you kill if voted mayor and who would you like to get voted in if you can't get in?
Sleep time, but I EXPECT ANSWERS.
this makes L look pretty good.
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Foolishness
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On March 16 2010 10:10 Zona wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2010 09:38 Foolishness wrote: There is a point that needs to be addressed to the town. L claims he has a circle of 3(?) blues, BC said he claimed to people and has hinted he knows blues, Incog claims he knows a bunch of blues as well. There are more blues going around than there are probably in the game. If you all were really blue, why haven't you coordinated together? If all of you were legit, I'd expect this game to be near over for the mafia because you probably know over half the town is innocent. Why isn't this happening? Why are none of you telling us who to lynch (exception of L here). Somebody's full of shit with you three. At least one of you is lying about the information you know. Based on what you three have individually said, this game should be nearly over. Why are we still playing and why are we guessing on who to lynch today? I agree with this part 100%. It's highly likely at least one of the L, BC, or Incognito isn't speaking the truth.
I'm claimed somebody's paying attention. This is half the reason why I called out BC in the thread and demanded answers. Who ever was saying that Versatile and myself are suspicious for trying to start a riot is ridiculous. There's obviously something going on here that one of the three isn't telling us. Good news is though, BC came out and told us everything, and he's actually following the plan he outlined on day one (yeah I don't like it either, that's why I didn't vote for him). But unless he doesn't produce a mafia in the coming days there's no reason to question what he's doing. If he's playing the town he'll get found out sooner or later.
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Another thing that makes L look good is the fact that he was WINNING the election 7-6-6 when Malongo announced his candidacy. The mafia would not risk getting 2 people into office imo based upon the spots being role-checkable. I'm fairly certain that L is blue/green.
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That being said, he would be a very good person to protect if you're a medic..
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ummm, no @ BM.
i agree with whoever said malongo being red was luck. he wasn't even playing.
as for our next lynch target: town, if you don't recognize that someone between BC, L and incog is mafia, i will once again have to refer to the collective as a bunch of dingbats.
clearly, something is not adding up. at least one of them is mafia. and if we lynch one of them, we're guaranteed a red popping up.
my suggestion would be BC. and if incog threatens to pardon, we should kill incog first.
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from the nights events its very likely that both incognito and BC are pro-town, as they were the first who voted for him. So that is good news town.
Also our two bodyguards are on different sides of the vote, cynan voted for malongo and zona for abenson. Just wanted to throw that out there.
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