EPTSTOP IGNORING? THANKS.
And after you credit me with storm mafia I want the list to reflect im sitting out TL Mafia LIV
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
STOP IGNORING? THANKS. And after you credit me with storm mafia I want the list to reflect im sitting out TL Mafia LIV | ||
GMarshal
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Coagulation
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flamewheel
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
just for clarification http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313426¤tpage=2#22 I never got credit. And now im sitting out http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331187¤tpage=3#50 I would like credit for this one also. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On May 04 2012 05:28 flamewheel wrote: oh LOL gmarshal i thought you were updating this for some reason since y'know you can edit this and whatnot >_> You are a blue, me trying to edit your posts (like this op) results in me getting "For security reasons you cannot edit posts of users with a higher permission level than yourself." Plus you are the scribe! | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 04 2012 05:33 GMarshal wrote: You are a blue, me trying to edit your posts (like this op) results in me getting "For security reasons you cannot edit posts of users with a higher permission level than yourself." Plus you are the scribe! Clearly this means that I should take this thread over again. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
Blazinghand for behavior. After many warnings, continued bad behavior. St. Daniel: Activity and not voting. Warning for BroodkingEXE for not voting. | ||
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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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+ Show Spoiler + Original Message From iGrok: No, it is not insulting. But ordinarily players who are modkilled apologize to the host. Feel free to take this to the thread. You were not modkilled for not heeding a warning in other thread, but for misbehavior in the game after two warnings in the game thread. I would like to contest the ban request regarding my bad behavior. I believe that, had I been modkilled during D1, a ban would have been reasonably acceptable. However, iGrok proceeded to periodically post warnings to the general thread and never warned me. He says there were "many warnings" but he never said "blazinghand tone it down" at any point. THAT BEING SAID, I got the hint! I actually DID toned down my aggression a great deal during D2. In fact, I toned it down so much that when I was modkilled, I was under the assumption it was for writing a word in all caps (iGrok modkills for that as well) rather than my play. The fact that his "final warning" was in a thread discussing game types and not in LIII in particular bothers me. I accept that iGrok can run his games how he wants to run them. However, I believe his moderation was inconsistent. His "final warning" to me (or the thread, at least) wasn't even IN the LIII thread-- it was in some other thread, and I didn't see it until after the game. It's also worth noting that people didn't understand why the modkill happened and he warped the nature of gameplay. Take this for example: On April 27 2012 15:07 johnnywup wrote: TBH town is in a really bad spot, you "mislynched" or not. I'm willing to take the bet you're scum. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that. Even you should be able to understand that. On April 27 2012 15:08 johnnywup wrote: EBWOP: "even you should be able to understand that" isn't supposed to be as harsh as it came out to be, i meant in your position you should be able to understand what i mean. i'm not calling you stupid. As you can see, JW is being modestly aggressive, but realizing that I was modkilled for no good reason, begins to act incredibly afraid. Other players were also alarmed by the modkill: In any case, I don't deny iGrok the right to modkill me in a game he moderates. However, I believe that I should not be banned for my actions--- I significantly reduced the swearing and aggression in my posts, was never warned directly, and was given a "final warning" in a thread that wasn't actually the game thread that I couldn't reasonably be expected to read. Also, further evidence regarding what I believe to be iGrok's unreasonable standard of profanity: On May 05 2012 09:29 marvellosity wrote: Except this one had a shit-ton of context surrounding it. On May 05 2012 09:30 iGrok wrote: Marv, stop cursing. I'd also like to note that iGrok was well within his rights to modkill me, since as a moderator you can do what you want, but I don't think I deserve a ban for my actions, and I think that a more reasonable moderator would have warned me or been more explicit, or delivered his final warning at the very least in the LIII thread and not the themed games discussion thread or wherever. | ||
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Mattchew
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
MrZentor removed from ban list Jayme removed from list (2nd time) Erandorr has one game left OriginalName removed from ban list BrownBear has two games left Meapak_Ziphh removed from ban list Sufficiency given warning for Newbie Mini Mafia V Rainmaker5 given standard ban for Newbie Mini Mafia V Pablols given standard ban for Newbie Mini Mafia V InfernOokami7 given standard ban for SNMMVIII koritora given standard ban for SMMVIII Nicolas given standard ban rgTheSchworz given standard ban for JubJub Abenson given standard ban for JubJub [UoN]Sentinel given warning for JubJub ccalf given standard ban for Sum of all Fears OriginalName given standard ban gumshoe given standard ban Acrofales given warning Therapist given warning for Newbie Mini Mafia VII Splinter[eP] given warning AcesAnoka given warning St. Daniel given standard ban in LIII BroodkingEXE given warning in LIII Blazinghand's ban is being discussed. If there are errors let me know~ | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On May 05 2012 10:15 Mattchew wrote: Ban St. Daniel forever please Agreeing with this. Also, I don't think BH should be banned. Warning, imo, and tbh I'm surprised I'm not on that warning list. I was trying to play to my town meta and I think I may have gone a bit overboard. That said I'm surprised BKExe isn't being suggested for a ban. I don't know everything that went on behind the scenes, though, so maybe a warning is all he needed. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
I didn't understand the modkill when it happened, and it was probably cause I was mad at the time it happened. But looking back it I still don't see it. It consisted of lol this kid, and a gif, and calling posts worthless. A lot worse happened from BH and other players throughout the game, iGrok gave a general warning to the thread and things toned down afterwards. Ottoxlol was doing the same sort of u mad bro response, without consequence. This conversation was tame compared to day 1, I feel like the modkill was more of an emotional reaction, that iGrok was pissed about everyone being so unmanner day 1, which is a legit concern. I know that it is up to the host, but unless its really bad, I feel like player specific warnings should be given out before modkills. As very different behaviour standards are held up in different games, so it is hard for the player to judge what is acceptable and what is not. I don't wanna take anyones sides, or make any one mad, but looking at the situation this is my opinion. TLDR; Warning not ban | ||
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redFF
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
Regarding moderation, I agree that I should have been more consistent with my OP warning and banned you at the first instance of trouble. However, because I am generally a nice guy, I warned multiple times in thread. As I told you in PM, had you apologized for your actions I would have reconsidered. This is standard practice for me, as I care more that players learn to be better behaved than to exact punishment. However, despite your proclaimed "professionalism", you showed no remorse. There is a difference between playing aggressively and calling people worthless, posting gifs, saying things like "lol this kid" (twice in 30 minutes) and "come at me bro", statements which contribute nothing and have no purpose other than to piss people off. Your "playstyle" revolved around pissing people off and I warned the thread that bad behavior would be punished multiple times, including a warning that Mementoss had 1 minute to apologize or be modkilled. Clearly I was about to start modkilling players for bad behavior. So while yes, I was inconsistent in that I grew more strict as the game went on, I indicated this clearly in the thread. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On May 05 2012 10:41 redFF wrote: Didn't people get the hint after his last game went on for 5 days with no chance of a town win? Don't start that shit again. There was a chance of a town win, and as most people agreed (you obviously excluded), the only proper course of action was to play the game out. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
There will be no warnings for misbehavior, only forced replacement or modkill. He said in the rules he can modkill you when he wants, how he wants for whatever reason. You can't really complain. That said, I don't think games with weird rules like the above should be banlist approved. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On May 05 2012 10:41 redFF wrote: Didn't people get the hint after his last game went on for 5 days with no chance of a town win? this game was awesome... | ||
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