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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
onto ver, he has been trying to manipulate me from the start of the game: "As I said my primary goal with voting is to make sure citizen does not get elected (extremely shady platform, votes from nowhere etc). I believe redtooth has a better likelihood of beating citizen than you do " I'd like to see some evidence as to why you're worried about citi.zen, Ver. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7466 Posts
On February 16 2010 06:05 Ace wrote: Instead of criticizing people for making useless posts how about you make keep the ball rolling Caller? Agree, people tell me the same stuff every game about "waste post" and never define what it is... Then post game they all say.. well let me get an example: + Show Spoiler + From: mikeymoo [ Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: mafia game Date: 1/10/10 16:06 but I actually do hate showtime. ~mikey ----------------------------------------- Original Message: no problem! You had me believing for a while. So I decided to look at your old posts and then I saw what you said about showtime!. He inspired some of my work! Just so you know, everything I write is aimed toward someone. I even wrote some stuff for the sole purpose of confusing the mafia. The only time it isn't aimed at anyone is when I'm trying to get people to talk. Oh, wait.. I do write some stuff for the laughs - a lot of inside jokes from people I talk to via pm's. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I actually like how you play, I just needed to work an angle, sorry. I don't actually hate you and I'd be delighted to play a game with you in it in the future. Some of the posts you make are really good, but then you tend to dwindle into a rant, sometimes you have paragraphs that don't express anything in particular. Anyway I wanted to express my apologies. ~mikey So today's lesson is don't let the mafias get you down! | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On February 16 2010 06:05 Ace wrote: Instead of criticizing people for making useless posts how about you make keep the ball rolling Caller? i'm pissed that nobody's listening to me as usual and it seems that everybody else in the game has adopted the "troll the fuck out of the mafia thread until someone slips up" strategy. Not that the strategy doesn't work, but when everybody does it just causes useful posts like Zato's to get buried underneath steaming piles of shit. i mean what else is there to say right now. no dts have come forth, despite me saying that it's unlikely dts will die even if they rc. Similarly, the mayor hasn't even been elected yet and we don't even know the identity of the BGs. I have a plan for that but I don't want to reveal it just yet until after the election. We've had a few roleclaims from PMs, apparently, but most of those appear to be phishing. DoctorHelvetica and Bill Murray are spamming the thread full of shit, which, while I'm not sure if they're mafia or not, in the event that they're not makes them stupid townies. this game is just really frustrating for me. I'm surprised that Ver, my second-in-command in ur mafia game, hasn't had any real insights on how to abuse the two mafias against each other, especially when he helped pipe in on the plan (that ultimately fell through thanks to a certain somebody). You also haven't had any real insights either, other than trolling the fuck out of the thread. I can't really blame anyone else to be honest, especially since MTF, Camlito, and all the other experienced players in that game aren't in this one. Instead, we're relying on the mafia game equivalent of trench warfare to deal with the two mafia blitzkrieg. Unless there's some townie circle that I'm not privy to, I really don't see much else that I can contribute at this point in time. rageeeeeeeeeee /end rant | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On February 16 2010 06:03 meeple wrote: For someone who complains about shit posting, the vast majority of your posts contain only "NOBODY CARES!" They're not going to change just because you tell them to... case in point Chez's new post that seems just to be a collection of his old posts... I find it very interesting that you choose to ignore Ver's big post of analysis on why you are mafia, and instead divert your time to tell me that I am only filling up the thread with useless jargon. If I was in your shoes, I'd be shitting my pants that one of the so called "veterans" have me listed down as one of their two top suspects. The last thing that would be on my mind would be small complaints from Foolishness about Iaaan's lack of useful posting. But hey, whatever you gotta do to dodge a bullet. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7466 Posts
On February 16 2010 06:13 Caller wrote: i'm pissed that nobody's listening to me as usual and it seems that everybody else in the game has adopted the "troll the fuck out of the mafia thread until someone slips up" strategy. Not that the strategy doesn't work, but when everybody does it just causes useful posts like Zato's to get buried underneath steaming piles of shit. i mean what else is there to say right now. no dts have come forth, despite me saying that it's unlikely dts will die even if they rc. Similarly, the mayor hasn't even been elected yet and we don't even know the identity of the BGs. I have a plan for that but I don't want to reveal it just yet until after the election. We've had a few roleclaims from PMs, apparently, but most of those appear to be phishing. DoctorHelvetica and Bill Murray are spamming the thread full of shit, which, while I'm not sure if they're mafia or not, in the event that they're not makes them stupid townies. this game is just really frustrating for me. I'm surprised that Ver, my second-in-command in ur mafia game, hasn't had any real insights on how to abuse the two mafias against each other, especially when he helped pipe in on the plan (that ultimately fell through thanks to a certain somebody). You also haven't had any real insights either, other than trolling the fuck out of the thread. I can't really blame anyone else to be honest, especially since MTF, Camlito, and all the other experienced players in that game aren't in this one. Instead, we're relying on the mafia game equivalent of trench warfare to deal with the two mafia blitzkrieg. Unless there's some townie circle that I'm not privy to, I really don't see much else that I can contribute at this point in time. rageeeeeeeeeee /end rant OMG QUOTING FOR POSTGAME!!! MUST READ!!! | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On February 16 2010 06:13 Caller wrote: i mean what else is there to say right now. no dts have come forth, despite me saying that it's unlikely dts will die even if they rc. You don't read Chezinu's posts do you? I mean, I don't blame you for not reading anything he says. Personally, banging my head into a wall seems more productive than having to slog through his garbage. But hey, I guess reading through did come in handy for this one instance. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
 Besides, MTF and Camlito haven't played in over a year. I highly doubt there's a town circle already unless people are doing the blind faith thing again. Also I don't agree that DTs should roleclaim early. If I were Mafia I'd kill them asap. Even if my win condition is to murder the other family why would I want them to have help? DTs are a double edged sword in that regard. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On February 16 2010 06:18 Foolishness wrote: You don't read Chezinu's posts do you? I mean, I don't blame you for not reading anything he says. Personally, banging my head into a wall seems more productive than having to slog through his garbage. But hey, I guess reading through did come in handy for this one instance. I know chezinu made some pretense at roleclaiming DT. But I have no idea if he was kidding or not, nor did he make any effort at trying to rally people around him, nor did he offer to have someone checked. He just pointed some fingers and put some fancy colors on his postingz. you gotta walk the walk if you gonna talk the talk | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On February 16 2010 06:14 Foolishness wrote: I find it very interesting that you choose to ignore Ver's big post of analysis on why you are mafia, and instead divert your time to tell me that I am only filling up the thread with useless jargon. If I was in your shoes, I'd be shitting my pants that one of the so called "veterans" have me listed down as one of their two top suspects. The last thing that would be on my mind would be small complaints from Foolishness about Iaaan's lack of useful posting. But hey, whatever you gotta do to dodge a bullet. I'm pretty sure I responded to that... and his "big" analysis consisted mainly of saying that I wasn't as active as in the last game. Of course, he only looked at the first day, and not the whole game... and forgot that I'm a university student and its midterm season... I was calling you out on being hypocritical, it had nothing to do with laaan in particular. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On February 16 2010 06:21 Bill Murray wrote: well, you are behaving completely different than you did last game meeple. Right, I am... because there's alot of loud vets around and I'm rather new to the game. The last game I was in we were all basically newbies and I could step in and take charge more, but this is a much different game. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
I guess for the time being Empyrean is our best bet. Ver did a great job of pointing out the inconsistency in his pro-town/mafia behavior from past games and the clue connection is just very very very very strong. Redtooth did a decent job of defending himself, or at least why it doesn't make sense that he and Ace are both in the same mafia family. His argument for him and ace not being in different mafia families doesn't make sense. "Why would mafia defend a mafia from another family/not mafia" Unless he wanted to discourage clue analysis because he fears it will hurt his mafia family, or wanted to defend Ace because regardless of Ace's role his argumentation is successfully dividing the town. If redtooth is mafia, he has no way of knowing Ace's role anyway, so saying "i wouldn't defend another families mafia" makes no sense because he doesn't know who those people are. I really doubt the mafia are going to ONLY defend one another, look what happened when I got lynched in the last game. By analyzing who I defended/supported/whose clues I ignored the entire rest of the mafia family was caught. I'm not accusing you of being mafia redtooth, I'm just pointing out that the argument falls short. I'm voting for L because so far his arguments have been extremely consistent, he's been trying to get the town moving/discouraging waste posts, and providing excellent clue analysis. Redtooth shouldn't have a problem with this, don't you want L as the other elected role anyway? | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On February 16 2010 06:24 Nikoner wrote: How do you expect DTs to come forward, they haven't even had the chance to do anything during the night yet. Only reason to come forward as a DT today would be if you're the godfather of a mafia so you could potentially infiltrate townie circles, and even then, it's way risky. Did you even read my post? I already stated very clearly that there is absolutely no incentive for mafia to kill DTs right now, or as long as the balance of power between the two mafias is maintained. None at all. Mafia have no method of identifying other mafia at this stage this early in the game. They want DTs to clear up suspects on their lists. Mafia don't have to kill a single townie this game in order to win, either. And I doubt a godfather would expose themselves this early. Why would they care about townie circles? Again, I stated multiple times that all mafia has to do is kill the other mafia. Infiltrating townie circles is a lot less useful than it is in games with just one mafia. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On February 16 2010 06:21 Bill Murray wrote: well, you are behaving completely different than you did last game meeple. So is citi.zen and I think that is very worth noting. Also his logic is a bit shakier than the last game. He's trying to paint me red on the completely and utterly false accusation that I'm pressing hard for a Bill Murray lynch? Should we really be voting people for mayor who don't even read the thread and know what's going on? On February 16 2010 06:24 Nikoner wrote: How do you expect DTs to come forward, they haven't even had the chance to do anything during the night yet. Only reason to come forward as a DT today would be if you're the godfather of a mafia so you could potentially infiltrate townie circles, and even then, it's way risky. That's a fair point. It's only the first day and so much drama @___@. Chezinu came forward as a DT, we can't forget about that. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
My only fear is that ZERO people have pushed back against my claim against emp, and a number of people have tagged along well after i took pains to make it clear i wasn't dropping the accusation. Either one of the mafia teams is using him as a sacrifice to get, say, ver, to look good by supporting my position, or emp is green/blue and afk like a moron. Given his vote, it would seem that he isn't afk, which leads me to believe that killing him will at least give me some information. I'm actually more worried about how much information regarding clue interpretation for this game I can glean from a red or green flip than anything else. Like i said; Grow some fucking balls. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
by "spamming the thread" with my campaign for office, and responding to people, I was simply trying to provide that to the town. Someone who is going to try to give a way for greens and blues to come together to actually try and discuss a common goal and how to achieve it. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On February 16 2010 06:28 L wrote: Nikoner, not killing someone day 1 is generally a box of dumb. Even if it makes me look bad, its better to have 100% confirmable information for the town to work with regarding associations and whatnot. My only fear is that ZERO people have pushed back against my claim against emp, and a number of people have tagged along well after i took pains to make it clear i wasn't dropping the accusation. Either one of the mafia teams is using him as a sacrifice to get, say, ver, to look good by supporting my position, or emp is green/blue and afk like a moron. Given his vote, it would seem that he isn't afk, which leads me to believe that killing him will at least give me some information. I'm actually more worried about how much information regarding clue interpretation for this game I can glean from a red or green flip than anything else. Like i said; Grow some fucking balls. It does seem strange to me that there was a big backlash at a strong clue connection to Ace but everyone accepted Empyrean rather quietly. However, do consider the fact that there isn't really any herrings in the description of the radiant killer that point to anyone else. Empyrean simply fits. While Ace fits strongly, it was pointed out that 789 actually fits the clue profile very well also, so there is a bit more room for doubt. | ||
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