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Well we still have over a day to make up our minds. | ||
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On January 23 2010 14:31 flamewheel91 wrote: And this is not as strong of a correlation? | ||
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On January 24 2010 06:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The mafia could stage a disagreement to throw suspicion off of one or both of them, but it seems unlikely. Right now I feel, barely, that the clues are a bit stronger toward kane but I'm still pretty torn. For the time being, my vote is on kane. I'm going to hold out on voting until sometime tommorow. I don't want to end up flip flopping my vote as I change my mind like I did for the election lol. Yeah, right now I'm leaning on kane unless something changes. I think I'm out of ideas myself, but will still be open to ideas from others. I've got one question though. Why are people pushing so hard for a double lynch on day 3? I'm not sure we have enough to be sure that we'll have 2 worthy suspects tomorrow as things stand now. I'm probably going to abstain from that vote for the time being. I'm not going to vote against that if it ends up what most people want to do. I'm not going to vote for it for now - unless someone manages to persuade me. | ||
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The best ways I can think to confirm an innocent right now are a medic save and a clue analysis hitting hom. Both players involved in a medic will now know eachother are innocent. If a clue analysis hits home - the person who first proposed it is probably innocent. Your point about mafia doing fake clue analysis is certainly valid, but I don't think they would go to the point of incriminating a fellow mafia to appear cooperative. Then again, I could be wrong - the mafia could be being very tricky. That person who did the clue analysis would look clean for a very long time, perhaps indefinitely. It could be wroth sacrificing 1 mafia to ensure longevity of another. As for trapping a mafia, I don't have any surefire ways in mind yet. I'm hoping it ends up being sort of a "know a slip up when I see it" type of thing. Any PMs I have done have been pretty mild and unrevealing. There isn't anything I've said in a PM that I wouldn't have minded sharing openly - and it would appear like the same from the PMs I have received. I agree we should spend sometime giving suggestions to the blues on how to use their abilities. I believe this should be done in the open until we start getting a network of people that know eachother are innocents, like we tried to do in night 1. We can save these sort of discussions for the night phases, as when these are when those abilities are put into action. And finally, I agree with holding off on the double lynch for now. Unless something changes - which is impossible to know at this point, since we don't know what will happen with night 2 and day 3 clues- I don't think we have enough viable suspect to justify one. | ||
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On January 24 2010 07:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Someone did this in BC's thread and I thought it worked well. I'm going to bold everything that jumps out to me as a possible clue: Walking home from the post-election celebration, a slightly tipsy blue_arrow was whistling tunelessly to himself in the violet dusk. After a block or two, he noticed the sound of someone shuffling behind him. Though unnerved, he tried to shrug it off and started walking faster. The shuffling did not speed up in response, and blue_arrow felt safer the further he walked from his follower. As the streetlamps flickered on one by one, he took a quick peek behind him. One glimpse of his follower's frightening appearance was enough to clear his mind and convince him the Mafia was after him. Blue_arrow took off running. Sweat dripped off his forehead and fear spurred him to achieve near-Olympian speed as he sprinted for his life. He flew past several blocks in a few minutes, but always he could hear his attacker plodding relentlessly after him. Finally, the exhausted blue_arrow slumped against a lamppost, so worn out by his headlong dash that he couldn't move another step. All he could do was watch with mounting dread as his entirely unperturbed attacker caught up to blue_arrow and strangled him to death Instead of walking, Bill Murray drove home after the celebrations. When he arrived at his driveway, he was initially startled to see that his garage door had been forced open and didn't find any comfort when he looked within. It appeared as if a wild animal had been let loose inside his garage. Noticing that all the guns on his weapon rack were broken, Bill Murray started to panic. He turned around in a hurry, only to notice a broken rafter fall from the ceiling, landing right next to him. A high-pitched snicker immediately attracted his attention. He anxiously scanned the area, looking for a weapon. From the darkness, a figure appeared just outside the garage, advancing on him with what looked like a sledgehammer. The figure moved quickly, wearing a large helmet resembling an old rusty pail. The figure drew closer, and Bill Murray panicked and ran toward the door. Bill Murray tugged on the door, but it was locked. Bill Murray met his doom as the sledgehammer came down on his skull, ending his life. nothing really stands out to me in the third death scenario :o I agree with these. A few I might add: From the first: "violet dusk" and "plodding relentlessly" From the second: "all the guns on his weapon rack were broken" This one could imply that the killer knew Bill Murray was a detective. This could point to some of the people he divulged his role to via PM - though we don't have a complete list and I doubt people are going to admit to it now. | ||
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Meanwhile, long after his fellow townspeople had left, Abenson lingered at the site of the lynching to ponder the unsettling recent events affecting Liquidia. He was so deep in his reflections that it took him a while to become aware of a presence beside him, also contemplating the empty gallows. He turned to face his fellow observer and cleared his throat. "Sad, isn't it?" he ventured. "Yes," the man responded. "Many men will die here, before all this is done. One of them will be you." As the words filtered through Abenson's brain, he blinked in sudden, terrible comprehension and turned to run. But the other man was unfazed; he simply reached out and grabbed a handful of Abenson's shirt with a powerful grip, preventing him from getting anywhere. Before the thwarted Abenson could break free or lash out, his attacker drove his knee hard into Abenson's groin, causing him to double over in agony. With a few quick punches and kicks, Abenson was left mangled before his attacker left the lynch site as quietly as he had come. The main things that jump out at me are the physical nature of the attack (no weapons) and the quiet manner he approached and left. The quote could also end up being significant in someway later. | ||
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On January 24 2010 07:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The moderator would have no way of knowing who Bill Murray was PMing with, and it's already been 100% confirmed clues point only toward names, signatures, and profiles. Nothing else. Good point - my bad. | ||
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"Medic You have the ability to prevent one hit on a player of your choice during the night. Each paramedic can only stop one hit and as such if the number of mafia is greater than the number of paramedics on a player then that player will die. You will know if you saved the person. The person will know if he was saved. If you are protecting a veteran, and they are hit, your ability supercedes theirs. You cannot protect yourself. A medic can protect someone the night she/he gets killed. They won't be notified of their save though, since they are dead." Though is doesn't explicitly state it, I was assuming this meant the person who was saved would know the identity of the person who saved him. I'll PM a mod for clarification. You also have a good point about protecting a mafia from a vigilante hit - let's just hope that doesn't happen. | ||
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On January 24 2010 08:39 Qatol wrote: If you are saved, you know that SOMEONE saved you (the PM is something like "You have taken a hit, but have been saved!"), but you are not told who saved you. The medic is also told that they have made a save (and obviously know who they protected in the first place). Alright man, thanks for the clarification. Guess I was wrong. | ||
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1) Clues and active, but not defending themselves. Hobbes from day 1 killer 1 would fit into this category. He's posted some, but never tried to defend himself in any real way. I would say the clues aren't that strong on him though. I'm not sure I think about his behavior. He may be playing it safe and to not incriminate himself or just knows there is nothing he can really say. He hasn't really contributed much or defended himself which is a bit odd. 2) Clues and defended self. Flamewheel falls into this category. He hasn't really been that active until he was brought up as a possible suspect. I think that is a little bit suspicious myself. There is still the possibility that he is just trying to honestly defense himself. 3) Clues and inactive. Treadmasta(spelling?) and kane fall into this category. Hard to gauge these. They could be lurking mafia or green/blues. Or just simply not participating. | ||
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