EPT2012 London Summer Games Basketball
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July 27th - Aug 12th
Olympic Basketball
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Wordsmith
United Kingdom93 Posts
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Wordsmith
United Kingdom93 Posts
Mens' Basketball Group A Argentina France Tunisia United States Nigeria Lithuania Group B Australia Brazil China Spain Great Britain Russian Fed. Group A Schedule 29/7, 9:00 : Nigeria v Tunisia 29/7, 14:30 : United States v France 29/7, 22:15 : Argentina v Lithuania 31/7, 14:30 : Lithuania v Nigeria 31/7, 20:00 : France v Argentina 31/7, 22:15 : Tunisia v United States 2/8, 9:00 : France v Lithuania 2/8, 14:30 : Argentina v Tunisia 2/8, 22:15 : United States v Nigeria 4/8, 9:00 : Tunisia v France 4/8, 14:30 : Lithuania v United States 4/8, 22:15 : Nigeria v Argentina 6/8, 11:15 : Tunisia v Lithuania 6/8, 14:30 : France v Nigeria 6/8, 22:15 : Argentina v United States Group B Schedule 29/7, 11:15 : Brazil v Australia 29/7, 16:45 : Spain v China 29/7, 20:00 : Russian Fed. v Great Britain 31/7, 9:00 : China v Russian Fed. 31/7, 11:15 : Australia v Spain 31/7, 16:45 : Great Britain v Brazil 2/8, 11:15 : Australia v China 2/8, 16:45 : Brazil v Russian Fed. 2/8, 20:00 : Spain v Great Britain 4/8, 11:15 : Russian Fed. v Spain 4/8, 16:45 : China v Brazil 4/8, 20:00 : Great Britain v Australia 6/8, 9:00 : Australia v Russian Fed. 6/8, 16:45 : Great Britain v China 6/8, 20:00 : Spain v Brazil Women's Basketball (to be added later) | ||
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nohbrows
United States653 Posts
I don't follow international basketball very much, but I just really don't want to watch Team USA just tearing apart everyone in runaway games. Do I make the skill gap between NBA players vs. the world too high?? | ||
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jeeneeus
1168 Posts
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
On July 20 2012 16:34 nohbrows wrote: How are other, international basketball teams, compared to Team USA? I don't follow international basketball very much, but I just really don't want to watch Team USA just tearing apart everyone in runaway games. Do I make the skill gap between NBA players vs. the world too high?? Unfortunately, the skill gap is still very large. Teams like France, Argentina, Brazil, Lithuania and especially Spain have a great chance to get medals, but if Team USA plays up to their potential for the whole competition, it will not be close. I would expect a margin of victory in the 20-30s if you average the whole tournament. That said, the games are usually still relatively entertaining and provide a different kind of basketball compared to that of NBA. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On July 20 2012 16:54 Looms wrote: Unfortunately, the skill gap is still very large. Teams like France, Argentina, Brazil, Lithuania and especially Spain have a great chance to get medals, but if Team USA plays up to their potential for the whole competition, it will not be close. I would expect a margin of victory in the 20-30s if you average the whole tournament. That said, the games are usually still relatively entertaining and provide a different kind of basketball compared to that of NBA. Yea none of their games should be close. Even with them not having a very stacked roster. Still enjoyable to watch, at times reminds me of watching the Harlem Globetrotters. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35150 Posts
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Sermokala
United States13931 Posts
But I'd say watch out for the chineses. There isn't a team out there that is more motivated then them. That being said none of the real threats are in usas group. Expect 50+ slaughters. Should be a ton of fun to watch. | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On July 20 2012 23:10 Sermokala wrote: But I'd say watch out for the chineses. There isn't a team out there that is more motivated then them. That being said none of the real threats are in usas group. Expect 50+ slaughters. Should be a ton of fun to watch. China won't get top 5, maybe their women will, but certainly not their men. | ||
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Spiffeh
United States830 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
I think China will do pretty well actually. The men's team is definitely very motivated and they have shown some pretty good play. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On July 21 2012 21:22 krndandaman wrote: not really accurate. it only looks that way because thats what they mostly rely on because they don't have the athleticism NBA has and they can't even make 90% of the highlights made in the NBA lol Yeah, pretty much. Also the NBA being so much better than everybody else doesn't mean they don't have any fundamentals -___- those guys practice really damn hard to get where they are...just being able to make crazy highlight reel shots and dunks doesn't make their play "bs highlight grabbing"... | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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Sermokala
United States13931 Posts
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
And hope for a true fiba rulesheet refereeing without silly refereeing helps to the USA team as always  | ||
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d00p
711 Posts
On July 20 2012 23:07 Gahlo wrote: I keep hearing about European basketball being more fundamentally sound and less of the bs highlight grabbing of the NBA. Looking forward to it. You reminded me of this gem: (Have no idea if that's true or not) | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
People are quick to point out that USA trailed vs Brazil but they were taking an incredibly large amount of 3s and missing. Hopefully coach K tells them to lay off the 3s unless it's completely wide open or at least they're more warmed up. | ||
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YODA_
593 Posts
On July 21 2012 23:10 Itsmedudeman wrote: Spain is the only team that can beat USA, and only cause of the matchup problems they might create due to Bosh and Howard being out this year. People are quick to point out that USA trailed vs Brazil but they were taking an incredibly large amount of 3s and missing. Hopefully coach K tells them to lay off the 3s unless it's completely wide open or at least they're more warmed up. If anyone actually took that game seriously......just lol. What kills most international teams when playing the US is the constant, suffocating defense, not center play, driving, shooting, post presence etc. Sure, the US team has a lot of skill there too, but what kills teams is having multiple runs down the floor where you never get into a half-court set, and having multiple steals and run-out dunks in a row due the the insane athleticism and quickness on the US side. Watching the US play "fundamental" teams like france or w/e, teams with good players, but just not much athleticism, is so painful, because they can make teams look downright silly and times. And if your best pg is in foul trouble......just...lol. | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
the finals is for sure going to be usa vs spain, and i think that will be interesting. however theres a good posibillity that spain might get upset. they have a chance at winning vs the us due to their general team talent and big men advantage, look for lithuania, france, russia, to have a chance at upsetting spain. | ||
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
These days the only team that has a chance is Spain, the US are favourite against them but if you think they have 95% chance of winning you really don't know what you're talking about. France should be in the "not completely awful but not exactly competitive either" category. When we lost against Spain by only a small margin everyone felt it was a great performance...that tells a lot. | ||
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
On July 22 2012 03:30 YODA_ wrote: IWatching the US play "fundamental" teams like france or w/e, teams with good players, but just not much athleticism I think you couldn't be more wrong if you tried ^^ | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
As long as they aren't doing bullshit things, care, and and cooperate (as they seem to have been doing for a long time by now), I really don't see how another team can compete with US. But that's just my opinion. Hope we get to see some interesting games. | ||
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Kahlgar
411 Posts
The US should stomp just about everybody, Spain might offer some resistance but that US team is about as sick as any national team i can remember since the Dream Team. | ||
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Blackhawk13
United States442 Posts
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CajunMan
United States823 Posts
15 Carmelo Anthony F 6-8 230 5/29/84 New York Knicks / Syracuse 10 Kobe Bryant G 6-6 205 8/23/78 Los Angeles Lakers / Lower Merion H.S. (PA) 4 Tyson Chandler C 7-1 240 10/02/82 New York Knicks / Dominguez H.S. (CA) 14 Anthony Davis F 6-10 220 03/11/93 New Orleans Hornets / Kentucky 5 Kevin Durant G 6-9 235 9/29/88 Oklahoma City Thunder / Texas 12 James Harden G 6-5 220 8/26/89 Oklahoma City Thunder / Arizona State 9 Andre Iguodala G/F 6-6 207 1/28/84 Philadelphia 76ers / Arizona 6 LeBron James F 6-8 250 12/30/84 Miami Heat / St. Vincent-St. Mary H.S. (OH) 11 Kevin Love F 6-10 260 9/07/88 Minnesota Timberwolves / UCLA 13 Chris Paul G 6-0 183 5/06/85 Los Angeles Clippers / Wake Forest 7 Russell Westbrook G 6-3 187 11/12/88 Oklahoma City Thunder / UCLA 8 Deron Williams | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
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goFLiP
Argentina39 Posts
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
On July 23 2012 06:47 goFLiP wrote: USA will have it hard this time. I don't know why you guys think that they will win by a wide 20 point margin. Their team looked quite weak today vs Argentina, even though Argentina played not their best game. Spain, Argentina, Brazil and Lithuania have quite a chance of snatching the gold off USA. The team doesn't look as solid as last Olympics. I'm praying there's an upset this time and USA doesn't get to the finals just like in Athens. I am sort of hoping for an upset too, that way all the sports analysts here in the US can stop with their "Durrr, NBA players shouldn't be on team USA, its not fair, send the college players!". | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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socommaster123
United States578 Posts
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
Argentina isn't even supposed to be that good, they lost by 20 against Spain... | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
In a one and done situation and the US needing to depend a lot on outside shooting (as it seems) the US losing wouldn't be THAT big of a surprise. I'd still put my money on em though. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10158 Posts
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
NBA players will wreck patriotism | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
Since it's being played in Barcelona Spain is definitely going to go all out for the home fans. If it wasn't both sides probably wouldn't have wanted to show much since they know they will meet for the Gold. | ||
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
On July 24 2012 12:03 BoZiffer wrote: Teams don't play the way during the Exhibitions as they do in the actual tournament. I wouldn't take much away from any of the exhibitions at all, for any team. US is still the favorite by a fair margin but there will be competitive moments for sure. Spain has size but lacks guys that can create their own shot and will suffer significantly against our perimeter defense. There will be some good ball played but the US is the clear favorite. I never understood why "creating your own shot" is such an important skill but anyway a lot of their players can actually do that ^^. And they have some great pick and roll players, shooters and low post threats. Their offense is pretty good. I think the most underrated aspect of their team is how athletic their perimeter guys are. They're not tall but they are explosive. Some of these guys aren't well known in the US (Sada, Llull) but they are good. Then you have Navarro who can be unstoppable if he's in a good day. I don't know, I think Spain is looking pretty good. For some reason I thought Marc wasn't going to play but now that I know he will I'm going to change my prediction and say Spain wins this. I guess we'll have a first answer in a few hours! | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
On July 24 2012 14:22 MilesTeg wrote: I never understood why "creating your own shot" is such an important skill but anyway a lot of their players can actually do that ^^. And they have some great pick and roll players, shooters and low post threats. Their offense is pretty good. I think the most underrated aspect of their team is how athletic their perimeter guys are. They're not tall but they are explosive. Some of these guys aren't well known in the US (Sada, Llull) but they are good. Then you have Navarro who can be unstoppable if he's in a good day. I don't know, I think Spain is looking pretty good. For some reason I thought Marc wasn't going to play but now that I know he will I'm going to change my prediction and say Spain wins this. I guess we'll have a first answer in a few hours! A player who creates their own shot is a lot more difficult to guard. A team with only low post threats and stationary shooters will be easy to defend as you can just shut out the passing lanes and seriously hamper their offense. | ||
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
On July 24 2012 14:39 rebdomine wrote: A player who creates their own shot is a lot more difficult to guard. A team with only low post threats and stationary shooters will be easy to defend as you can just shut out the passing lanes and seriously hamper their offense. Does "creating your own shot" even mean anything then. Because you seem to contrast that and low post play, which to me is the perfect example of creating your own shot. Anyway at this level it's all about using screens and good ball movement. San Antonio and Denver were the 2 best offensive teams last season, would you say they have a lot of players who are good at creating their own shots? | ||
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Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On July 24 2012 15:54 MilesTeg wrote: Does "creating your own shot" even mean anything then. Because you seem to contrast that and low post play, which to me is the perfect example of creating your own shot. Anyway at this level it's all about using screens and good ball movement. San Antonio and Denver were the 2 best offensive teams last season, would you say they have a lot of players who are good at creating their own shots? San Antonio, yes. Parker and Ginobili are very good at creating their own shots. As for low post play, it depends. Traditional big guys need to be fed. If they're not in a good position, they need to pass out and repost. The more mobile bigs have an advantage that they can dribble out and repost themselves. The reason "creating your own shot" is important is that these guys usually start the effective ball movement. If a player can score efficiently out of isolation, it forces the other team to double that player. That is what causes the other team to scramble their defense and leads to open shots. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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Juissi
Finland209 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
He refuels with chocolate milk. | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
On July 25 2012 07:01 Juissi wrote: Olympic basketball is so boring. Even Spain really doesn't stand a change against US. Lol? Have you watched all game? When USA was down by 9 at the start of the second quarter they put on the full start lineup while spain held the second unit on the court. There has been a lot of trying and testing, andSpain isnt playing Marc also. This is not a final And the referees are doing th usual job for fiba basketball, fouls are fouls, and leaving your arm to the side is a foul every time for eery side, just USA teams usually forget about it. | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On July 25 2012 07:28 Usagi wrote: Nice game, was good to see USA take it seriously, love how they dont take us lightly hehe. But if we meet in the finals, it will be different In what way? 40 point win? :p | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
lets hope not for teh sake of a good match lol. I dont really mind a loss to USA in a finals as long as they get to work for it and the game ends close and is enjoyable like last olympics. | ||
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YODA_
593 Posts
On July 24 2012 15:54 MilesTeg wrote: Does "creating your own shot" even mean anything then. Because you seem to contrast that and low post play, which to me is the perfect example of creating your own shot. Anyway at this level it's all about using screens and good ball movement. San Antonio and Denver were the 2 best offensive teams last season, would you say they have a lot of players who are good at creating their own shots? "Creating your own shot" is a term generally given to a perimeter player who can't be simply guarded one-on-one on an isolation play. Kobe, James, Durant, Westbrook, etc, basically keep teams from playing man against them, because the US would be plenty happy to run James a top of the key iso play 40 times in a row, because they know noone on the opposing team can stay with him consistently. Hence, someone has to help him on defense. When someone helps, then someone else is open. So, yes, both Denver and Sane Antonio have multiple players who they would be content to run in an iso play 1 v 1 20 times in a row vs most teams if they let them. Creating your own play means that when an offensive play breaks down with 6 seconds on the shot-clock, you still have a good chance of a high percentage shot getting off. Yes, screens, ball movement, that is all good, we call that "offense". But when an offensive set breaks down or shows an unexpected opening, players that can create their own shot will make you pay almost every time. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
I'd like to see some stats, but I'm pretty sure the paint is where most teams have been attacking the US right now. Otherwise their perimeter defense is one of the best I've seen. | ||
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
and is enjoyable like last olympics. Probably the best game in the olympics history. "Is enjoyable", he says... | ||
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
On July 25 2012 12:33 ShadeR wrote: What are the chances of the US not getting the gold due to lack of team cohesion or too many cooks in the kitchen type thing? not very likely imo, they don't get paid to play in the olympics and it isn't an individual title so i doubt they will be greedy and ball hog. Plus the amount of respect these players have for each other is quite high, as a basketball player myself i'd say the only time where i would ball hog is when my team is full of derps, i would always share the ball with a better player/equal, this team don't seem to have any derps. | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
On July 25 2012 14:45 Sejanus wrote: Probably the best game in the olympics history. "Is enjoyable", he says... What better example of an enjoyable game can I give than the best game? xD | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
The biggest question raised by this game... is Spain going to continue using the zone so much? They seemed to do so much better in man to man. I don't know why everyone thinks the zone is great against team USA. I guess it makes intuitive sense but everytime they lost it was against a man to man. If Spain stops with the cheesy "I bet you'll miss" zone, they get Marc back and they make their free throws they'll have a chance, or at least it should be a lot closer. | ||
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
On July 25 2012 07:44 YODA_ wrote: "Creating your own shot" is a term generally given to a perimeter player who can't be simply guarded one-on-one on an isolation play. Kobe, James, Durant, Westbrook, etc, basically keep teams from playing man against them, because the US would be plenty happy to run James a top of the key iso play 40 times in a row, because they know noone on the opposing team can stay with him consistently. Hence, someone has to help him on defense. When someone helps, then someone else is open. So, yes, both Denver and Sane Antonio have multiple players who they would be content to run in an iso play 1 v 1 20 times in a row vs most teams if they let them. Creating your own play means that when an offensive play breaks down with 6 seconds on the shot-clock, you still have a good chance of a high percentage shot getting off. Yes, screens, ball movement, that is all good, we call that "offense". But when an offensive set breaks down or shows an unexpected opening, players that can create their own shot will make you pay almost every time. I think both of those teams would rather run their sets and get open shots, but anyway it's really off topic. I was just reacting to the idea that getting a player who can create his own shots is an essential part of a team, which I believe is completely wrong. | ||
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Damien Kirojo
United States8 Posts
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
On July 26 2012 00:49 MilesTeg wrote: I think both of those teams would rather run their sets and get open shots, but anyway it's really off topic. I was just reacting to the idea that getting a player who can create his own shots is an essential part of a team, which I believe is completely wrong. Not all sets will yield open shots, especially if your shooters are set/spot shooters who, when pressured off their spots, can't create good looks. Or if the other team is more physical, etc. Is it essential, no. Is it an advantage, tremendously so in some cases. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19239 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Malaz
Germany1257 Posts
On July 29 2012 22:42 BisuDagger wrote: Has anyone found a good stream online? I'm watching the online live stream of the German tv station that prodcasts the olympics, but I guess you have to be in Germany to be able to watch it. Not 100% sure though. http://olympia.ard.de/apps/java/london2012/liveplayer/index.html | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On July 29 2012 23:01 zulu_nation8 wrote: no one from the NBA thread is watching this? Woke up early to make sure I caught the whole thing. It's kind of refreshing to see non(less)biased referees working a game with NBA stars. I'm watching too. Just tuned in at the very end of the 1st quarter. Was watching Judo and forgot USA vs France had started heh. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Sadist
United States7229 Posts
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Malaz
Germany1257 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On July 29 2012 23:15 Sadist wrote: this game is HORRIBLE. Seriously. So far it is just ugly ugly basketball with a whistle everytime down the floor. If USA made any shots at all theyd be up by 20. It's basketball rules all around the world except in NBA. They explain it at every olympic games... | ||
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Sadist
United States7229 Posts
On July 29 2012 23:19 nojok wrote: It's basketball rules all around the world except in NBA. They explain it at every olympic games... ???????????? I am talking about fouls, not rule differences between the NBA and FIBA. Its just ugly basketball and the refs not letting them play. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On July 29 2012 23:25 Sadist wrote: ???????????? I am talking about fouls, not rule differences between the NBA and FIBA. Its just ugly basketball and the refs not letting them play. They are being a little strict, but I prefer that to letting calls go just to let the game flow. Games like these are to be expected for the 1st outing of the tournament. | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On July 29 2012 23:25 Sadist wrote: ???????????? I am talking about fouls, not rule differences between the NBA and FIBA. Its just ugly basketball and the refs not letting them play. Refs rarely let players "play" in europe. A foul is a foul. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On July 29 2012 23:25 Sadist wrote: ???????????? I am talking about fouls, not rule differences between the NBA and FIBA. Its just ugly basketball and the refs not letting them play. Contacts are not allowed in FIBA... | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On July 29 2012 23:30 Telcontar wrote: Davis still hasn't played right? No he didnt play. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
Real nice play from pretty much everyone today. Looking forward to the big games against Argentina, Spain and Brazil depending how the brackets turn up. Group B is pretty stacked though I have to admit. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
I'm honestly surprised at the comments from Europeans in this thread. We Americans keep getting bashed in the head by commentators and analysts about how FIBA basketball is much more physical than NBA basketball. The USA-France and Spain-China games today had a lot of ticky-tack fouls. And lol at the refs missing Ibaka's blatant travel. | ||
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
The Gasol tandem wasn't that effective this game. Spain made both their 2nd and 4th quarter runs with Ibaka on the court. | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
On July 30 2012 02:32 andrewlt wrote: I don't remember any Chinese player being close to him. He squared up, jumped up, let go off the ball, got it back, then shot it. He was laughing at the missed call because he couldn't believe it. The Gasol tandem wasn't that effective this game. Spain made both their 2nd and 4th quarter runs with Ibaka on the court. The 2 gasol brothers have never been really great playing at the same time to me, somehow they lack some synergy because they play similar in many things. I always like it better when they can rotate pau-marc-ibaka | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On July 30 2012 05:36 Jerubaal wrote: You can get a 4 hour free trial on nbc.comAny not illegal streams? | ||
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seiferoth10
3362 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
Fuckin' NBC makes you have cable to watch their streams. Might look for that free thingy. | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
On July 30 2012 05:49 Jerubaal wrote: Fuckin' NBC makes you have cable to watch their streams. Might look for that free thingy. Use ExPatShield for a free UK VPN and watch BBC's god-tier coverage. NBC's been terrible these Olympics and their streams are no exception. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On July 30 2012 06:29 TieN.nS) wrote: Use ExPatShield for a free UK VPN and watch BBC's god-tier coverage. NBC's been terrible these Olympics and their streams are no exception. Awesome, did you post this in the livestream thread? I have NBC, but I don't have the stupid account info to watch online. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On July 30 2012 06:29 TieN.nS) wrote: Use ExPatShield for a free UK VPN and watch BBC's god-tier coverage. NBC's been terrible these Olympics and their streams are no exception. NBC stream coverage has been great for me. No issues with their live at 1080. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On July 30 2012 02:13 andrewlt wrote: I'm honestly surprised at the comments from Europeans in this thread. We Americans keep getting bashed in the head by commentators and analysts about how FIBA basketball is much more physical than NBA basketball. The USA-France and Spain-China games today had a lot of ticky-tack fouls. And lol at the refs missing Ibaka's blatant travel. Yeah, the commentators were talking about this (I believe they were american too) but out of all the games I've seen it's only providing evidence in the other direction. US has gotten so many fouls because they're not used to getting called on literally everything, and just watching the start of the 1st quarter in US vs. France says enough. | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
On July 30 2012 10:14 Irave wrote: NBC stream coverage has been great for me. No issues with their live at 1080. On July 30 2012 10:20 andrewlt wrote: Same. I don't have the channel they showed basketball on this morning because it was on an obscure NBC sports channel but I was able to watch it online. It was smooth. It needs a cable/satellite subscription, though. I guess it's better now, I tried watching NBC's stream the first day and it was completely unwatchable, buffering every 5 seconds. And from what I understand they withhold replays of events they plan on showing on tape delay until after they've aired everywhere, which is ridiculous. Also heard that there were huge memory leak issues, but I suppose that's been resolved by now if you guys have no complaints. I'd still prefer to watch BBC's coverage, but Beadle might tempt me to give NBC another shot... | ||
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jeeeeohn
United States1343 Posts
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thuracine
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On July 30 2012 06:29 TieN.nS) wrote: Use ExPatShield for a free UK VPN and watch BBC's god-tier coverage. NBC's been terrible these Olympics and their streams are no exception. Thank you for this | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4009 Posts
On July 30 2012 14:42 jeeeeohn wrote: I missed the Russia game. How did Kirilenko do? pretty much owned http://www.london2012.com/basketball/event/men/match=bkm400b03/doc=stats.html | ||
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zedrOne
France471 Posts
But in the same time NBA use his power to prevent player from other nation to play for their country. (ie : Noah, that the bulls don't let play for France for "insurance purpose". with that they almost can remove all the best player in foreign team. WTF. USA basketball team is better than the other one, but using nba club to remove player from foreign team is just as bad as cheating. they really don't need that. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
What are other examples of NBA teams not letting their players play? Edit: Yeah Noah is injured from the playoffs. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On July 30 2012 19:03 zedrOne wrote: Of course, USA got the best team on paper, and far from the other. But in the same time NBA use his power to prevent player from other nation to play for their country. (ie : Noah, that the bulls don't let play for France for "insurance purpose". with that they almost can remove all the best player in foreign team. WTF. USA basketball team is better than the other one, but using nba club to remove player from foreign team is just as bad as cheating. they really don't need that. Lol..... | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On July 30 2012 19:06 DannyJ wrote: Huh? Didn't Noah not play because he's injured? What are other examples of NBA teams not letting their players play? Edit: Yeah Noah is injured from the playoffs. That particular problem doesn't happen during the Olympics but during every other Qualification event or European Championship. | ||
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krndandaman
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On July 30 2012 19:06 DannyJ wrote: Huh? Didn't Noah not play because he's injured? What are other examples of NBA teams not letting their players play? Edit: Yeah Noah is injured from the playoffs. I know the french team is missing 2 other players for other reasons than injury. Dallas didnt let Beaubois play and Mahinmi is negotiating a new deal with them atm, so couldnt come (aka they didnt let him come). | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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jeeeeohn
United States1343 Posts
On July 30 2012 18:39 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: pretty much owned http://www.london2012.com/basketball/event/men/match=bkm400b03/doc=stats.html haha, awesome. I just wish he could play like that consistently in the NBA. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On July 30 2012 23:43 jeeeeohn wrote: haha, awesome. I just wish he could play like that consistently in the NBA. If he could consistently do that he'd be the best player of all time. | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4009 Posts
So expressive | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On July 31 2012 17:40 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: lol i like that coach of team China So expressive Yeah, he's a cool guy :D Well-played Russia, that was a pretty good game. China got owned pretty hard though lol. | ||
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seiferoth10
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AxionSteel
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Itsmedudeman
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On August 01 2012 04:43 Itsmedudeman wrote: LMAO british commentators making fun of lebrons fake glasses. "it really is better in 3d isn't it?" or at least I think that's what they said. It could be a genuine mistake. We don't see many people in the UK wearing fake glasses just for fashion. | ||
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Tiegrr
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Itsmedudeman
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On August 01 2012 05:49 Itsmedudeman wrote: France beating argentina. I've always thought france should be much better with their lineup than they are. french players had a hard preparation due to some intern problems, they could be by far better | ||
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
No chance, but nice to see the super underdog putting up a fight. You can also HEAR the difference between the Dream Team and the US team nowadays: Can't remember the crowd cheering so hard for the opponent back then. | ||
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aycheff
United States329 Posts
On August 01 2012 06:49 r00ty wrote: Tunisia HWAIITING! No chance, but nice to see the super underdog putting up a fight. You can also HEAR the difference between the Dream Team and the US team nowadays: Can't remember the crowd cheering so hard for the opponent back then. Don't think thats really a fair assumption. The level of international play back then and now are completely different. Basketball is more internationally popular as well as international players and teams. So naturally there are going to be more fans for teams outside the USA . | ||
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holy_war
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On August 01 2012 06:59 holy_war wrote: The bettors had USA as a 55 point favorite today. Don't think they're gonna cover. Nah, too many missed 3s | ||
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r00ty
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
wow C-Melo balling right now.. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
And Westbrook is playing at a different speed compared to everybody, even his teammates. His decision making is still lulzy at times but he's giving them a real shot of energy. Hope Love is alright. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On August 01 2012 06:59 holy_war wrote: The bettors had USA as a 55 point favorite today. Don't think they're gonna cover. If they bother to play the 4th like the 3rd quarter, they might. Davis is the lovable rookie, I guess. They're really working on giving him shots. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Vindicare605
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Daz89
Australia41 Posts
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
this is a great experience for Davis. | ||
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aycheff
United States329 Posts
On August 01 2012 06:59 holy_war wrote: The bettors had USA as a 55 point favorite today. Don't think they're gonna cover. On August 01 2012 07:00 aycheff wrote: game of 2 halves... GG USA :D | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
Also always forget kevin love is the reigning 3 point shootout champ | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
Hey Kobe I know I just played against you and all but please sign my shoe! That dude had the biggest look of happiness on his face. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On August 01 2012 07:58 DannyJ wrote: Tunisia had some pretty good play from a couple players. Definitely did. The commentators were saying they looked better today than they did against Algeria. I guess playing against the best in the world is great motivation. I love the Olympics lol. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
LBJ and KD...we could see a great friendly rivalry or whatever develop between them, though it may not last that long because LBJ will be on the cusp of being considered old in a few years. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On August 01 2012 19:14 Aerisky wrote: Yeah, US basketball is pretty monstrous. So many dunks in the olympics though :D LBJ and KD...we could see a great friendly rivalry or whatever develop between them, though it may not last that long because LBJ will be on the cusp of being considered old in a few years. lebron is 27, he has plenty of time left to be the best player in the world. On August 02 2012 01:11 BoZiffer wrote: The Tunisia game just reinforces that even though you are SUPREMELY more talented than your opponent, you still have to understand what your strengths are. I don't want to see the US shooting 3's unless its KD or Love. Thats about it. the line is in a few feet, so its more of a mid-range shot in fiba. all those players can shoot a three at a high percentage, except chandler or davis. they are not running many extravagant plays, because they don't need to. they have coach k and high basketball i.q. if it comes to a fourth quarter within 10 points. anyways, drive and kick is pretty standard in the nba, and I didnt really see any settling for threes, only taking them at opportune times. not taking threes allows the opposing defense to not guard the three, they specifically got guards with great or average mid range shots for this reason. | ||
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
On August 02 2012 02:53 Holcan wrote: lebron is 27, he has plenty of time left to be the best player in the world. the line is in a few feet, so its more of a mid-range shot in fiba. all those players can shoot a three at a high percentage, except chandler or davis. they are not running many extravagant plays, because they don't need to. they have coach k and high basketball i.q. if it comes to a fourth quarter within 10 points. anyways, drive and kick is pretty standard in the nba, and I didnt really see any settling for threes, only taking them at opportune times. not taking threes allows the opposing defense to not guard the three, they specifically got guards with great or average mid range shots for this reason. I guess my counter-argument would be that they were absolutely unable to stop US penetration and finishing around the rim, so why even bother shooting the three? I agree with your viewpoint about drive and kick if the rim-finishing goes away but I was speaking more to the point of "if they can't stop it, why do anything else?" but I'm onboard with what you're saying. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On August 02 2012 04:50 BoZiffer wrote: I guess my counter-argument would be that they were absolutely unable to stop US penetration and finishing around the rim, so why even bother shooting the three? I agree with your viewpoint about drive and kick if the rim-finishing goes away but I was speaking more to the point of "if they can't stop it, why do anything else?" but I'm onboard with what you're saying. It takes a lot more effort to actually put your head down and go for the rim. It looks so easy on TV but if you try playing full court 5 on 5 against the zone defense that most European teams use, and you want to drive to the rim every time, your legs and body pay the price. On a related note, Carmelo plays so much better in the Olympic setting than in the NBA. It might be because he has a solid PG helping him out, but the guy was ruthlessly efficient against tunisia. | ||
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United States19229 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On August 02 2012 08:18 Whatson wrote: It takes a lot more effort to actually put your head down and go for the rim. It looks so easy on TV but if you try playing full court 5 on 5 against the zone defense that most European teams use, and you want to drive to the rim every time, your legs and body pay the price. On a related note, Carmelo plays so much better in the Olympic setting than in the NBA. It might be because he has a solid PG helping him out, but the guy was ruthlessly efficient against tunisia. http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/48375/memo-to-knicks-melo-is-a-power-forward | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4009 Posts
On August 03 2012 02:31 soujiro_ wrote: noone watching brazil vs russia ? you just had to watch last 6.1 seconds in that game sometimes sports is cruel | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Sponge75
England194 Posts
On August 03 2012 05:53 Telcontar wrote: How hard is it to foul someone? LOL They just stood there watching him run out about 4 seconds before they even tried to... | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
The real question is, by how many point will they be up at the end of the game. 60? 70? | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:27 Roggay wrote: Well, this is incredibly brutal. The real question is, by how many point will they be up at the end of the game. 60? 70? Actually, the real question is, can they score? :D | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:27 Telcontar wrote: Actually, the real question is, can they score? :D Looks like they can score, they just can't defend, at all. | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
full court press all day O_O | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:36 DMXD wrote: Team USA hitting their 3's tonight... full court press all day O_O I guess they REALLY don't want to repeat what they did in the first quarter vs Tunisia. | ||
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GwSC
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Malaz
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gape.ninja
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Signet
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itsben
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Telcontar
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And LOL at Lebron's flop. | ||
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:50 Telcontar wrote: Btw, why isn't Davis waxing that unibrow? Holy cow. And LOL at Lebron's flop. http://abcnews.go.com/US/anthony-davis-trademarks-unibrow-phrases-ahead-nba-draft/story?id=16655206#.UBr2VrRSSsg I don't know if I'll ever get used to seeing it | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:51 GwSC wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/US/anthony-davis-trademarks-unibrow-phrases-ahead-nba-draft/story?id=16655206#.UBr2VrRSSsg I don't know if I'll ever get used to seeing it HAHAHAHAHA Thanks for that. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
Scoring 45 points in the 1st half against Team USA is not bad actually, that should count as a moral victory. | ||
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:58 Roggay wrote: AHAHAH Harden got crossed over nasty. Yeah that was awful, if that was in an NBA game it would be all over youtube :D | ||
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United Kingdom4569 Posts
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:02 AgentChaos wrote: but i wanted to see the cheerleaders.. Do they even have cheerleaders here? Or is that the point... | ||
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:05 Whatson wrote: Do they even have cheerleaders here? Or is that the point... there were people dancing and i keep hearing loud cheerings but on tv they just show replays | ||
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itsben
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On August 03 2012 06:58 DMXD wrote: lol someone got crossed badly... Scoring 45 points in the 1st half against Team USA is not bad actually, that should count as a moral victory. I think the only reason they got 45 was because USA scored so quickly, that they got more possessions... | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:05 Whatson wrote: Do they even have cheerleaders here? Or is that the point... They do, you can hear the crowd cheer for them while they are showing the highlights on our screens. | ||
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gape.ninja
Japan249 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:01 GwSC wrote: Yeah that was awful, if that was in an NBA game it would be all over youtube :D Didn't ruin the beard by mashing it on the floor atleast + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/NIGERIAN-CROSSOVER.gif) | ||
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socommaster123
United States578 Posts
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:09 gape.ninja wrote: Didn't ruin the beard by mashing it on the floor atleast + Show Spoiler + This is going all over NBA memes. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
nm apparently there is an english squad for indoor activities. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:11 Holcan wrote: pretty sure those are crowds cheering for tshirts or getting on the big screen, or any other random hype. I doubt there are any cheerleaders. No I saw the cheerleaders on my screen briefly, just before they showed the highlights. | ||
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United States178 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
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DMXD
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Australia41 Posts
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United States178 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
I guess that's what happens when you don't contest an NBA star at all on a short 3 point line. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
edit: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Why bench him? | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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Daz89
Australia41 Posts
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ryerye
Canada53 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:26 Holcan wrote: melo 10/12 from three, oh god. that's why the fiba three shouldn't be a nba mid range, so imbalanced for people who have mid range game. Well, there is no defense. | ||
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
that looks painful... | ||
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Gladiator MG
United States178 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:31 DannyJ wrote: Coach K probably can't stand this. US turned it's brain off after the first quarter. I think it is more about sportsmanship. USA could probably win most of these games by 100 or more if they wanted too. AND man, Westbrook seriously has some ridiculous hops. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:34 Gladiator MG wrote: I think it is more about sportsmanship. USA could probably win most of these games by 100 or more if they wanted too. AND man, Westbrook seriously has some ridiculous hops. I don't think its about sportsmanship (there is no sportsmanship in playing soft against a weaker team). Its actually incredibly hard to stay focused in a game where you win by this much. | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
and the fans of course. It's the olympics there should be more effort. | ||
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gape.ninja
Japan249 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.minus.com/iPhGzUb4AXrXR.gif) | ||
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Australia41 Posts
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:46 DMXD wrote: wow, I heard from the commentators they broke the scoring record and still have 4:20 left to go... Most 3 pointers in an Olympic game. Melo has scored the most points in a single USA Olympic basketball game with 37. | ||
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itsben
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On August 03 2012 07:46 DMXD wrote: wow, I heard from the commentators they broke the scoring record and still have 4:20 left to go... The sad part is it could've been worse. If they left kobe and melo in, probably would've gotten 170-180, maybe more. | ||
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Australia41 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:55 Daz89 wrote: 29/46 from the 3 point arch, 63% wow. Those would be really good 2 point stats let alone 3. Well in the NBA all those 3's really would have been 2's | ||
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Daz89
Australia41 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:55 DannyJ wrote: Well in the NBA all those 3's really would have been 2's Haha quite true xD | ||
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Malaz
Germany1257 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:48 Whatson wrote: Most 3 pointers in an Olympic game. Melo has scored the most points in a single USA Olympic basketball game with 37. And he only played 14,5 minutes to score those 37 points | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:41 Daz89 wrote: Davis definitely needs to bulk up a bit before he'll be ready for the big time, he seems to get muscled out a lot, especially in defense. Add a few more kilos on and he'll be a much larger threat. Yeah, but he's got the frame for alot more muscle and they will work on it. He's still really young. Just shave that damn unibrow! Like This: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/a8gDe.gif) | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:59 seiferoth10 wrote: Does Coach K ever smile? I saw him smiling during the last time out. I think its because igoudala let out a fart. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:58 Malaz wrote: And he only played 14,5 minutes to score those 37 points The shorter 3-point line is working wonders for him. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
Good win for the US though. Nice statement game for this team, shattering records. EDIT: Fuck yea Ghost portrait! | ||
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
They are adjusting it atm step by step to equal the NBA line... It's already further than in the last olympic games and in the next games it should be on NBA level imho. This really sucks if you're an amateur FIBA rules player who is used to throw from the old line for 20 years , But a good thing for pro level. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10158 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:29 zerious wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRmEdZAvXeo&feature=player_embedded rip ankles. god ked did a split too lol | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:29 zerious wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRmEdZAvXeo&feature=player_embedded this is most definitely the highlight of the game. really hope some team finds some way to pull some magic out of their asses or else it's going to be a boring path for the USA to gold. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
This is a ridiculously uncanny look alike. | ||
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United States1841 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On August 03 2012 10:54 andrewlt wrote: http://t.co/WZdvjkMq This is a ridiculously uncanny look alike. Hahah i saw that. I was seriously confused for a second. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
I guess you could stack up on size and just run Pau and Dirk at SF since they have the range, though, and just have the world's most hilariously tall team on the court, though I fear the US team would just dribble circles around this team. | ||
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
On August 03 2012 14:53 TwoToneTerran wrote: What would the best 12 man Lineup the World could put out be? They've got a whole heck of a lot of frontcourt depth, but I'm struggling to find good SG/SF players that could come close to matching up. Both Gasols, Parker, Ginobili, Dirk, Deng, Nash seem like solid bets to make the team, even if there's a lot of age showing there. Maybe throw in Scola or Ibaka, but at this point the C/PF position has a pretty strong rotation. I could see Batum just for much needed SG depth even though he's not a star level player like some of these other guys, same for Gallinari at SF. That's 12 or so but I feel like I'm missing some better options. I guess you could stack up on size and just run Pau and Dirk at SF since they have the range, though, and just have the world's most hilariously tall team on the court, though I fear the US team would just dribble circles around this team. Yeah, you pretty much nailed it. There are a lot of solid players for PF, C, and PG, but there just aren't many options for SF and especially SG. I would say you could put Hedo Turkoglu in there, even though he usually plays point guard in international play with Turkey. Other options could be Barbosa, Pietrus, Ben Gordon or Sefolosha depending on what the team needs. Bogut deserves a spot at C/PF too imo. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
The Russia and GB vs SPN games were also incredible though with those last minute 3s. | ||
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Malaz
Germany1257 Posts
On August 03 2012 15:14 Looms wrote: Yeah, you pretty much nailed it. There are a lot of solid players for PF, C, and PG, but there just aren't many options for SF and especially SG. I would say you could put Hedo Turkoglu in there, even though he usually plays point guard in international play with Turkey. Other options could be Barbosa, Pietrus, Ben Gordon or Sefolosha depending on what the team needs. Bogut deserves a spot at C/PF too imo. Just think about how many players of other nations that are currently at the olympics would even make it to the US roster. One of the Gasols instead of Davis, maybe Deng instead of Iguodala but that's pretty much it. Even Tony Parker would have a hard time making it with the likes of Paul, Williams and Westbrook. I'm not saying Westbrook is a better pointguard than Parker, but he brings so much energy to the team that I would take him anyway when I already have Chris Paul. | ||
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igotmyown
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:29 zerious wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRmEdZAvXeo&feature=player_embedded That is absolutely hilarious, he'll never hear the end of it from the rest of the team | ||
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Russano
United States425 Posts
On August 03 2012 10:54 andrewlt wrote: http://t.co/WZdvjkMq This is a ridiculously uncanny look alike. OMFG, I was watching that volleyball game and saw that guy, and was like, oh guess Marc Gasol plays volleyball too. Glad to see some other people immediately saw the same resemblance. USA basketball at the olympics is so one sided again, now that the good EU players are getting older. Spain vs USA only possible good game. James Harden got his ankles broken >< | ||
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BBMorti
Denmark242 Posts
On August 03 2012 13:44 AirbladeOrange wrote: The US men looked amazing. I wonder if they could win a US vs the world like Korea did for Starcraft. Very likely, Basketball is just not a big deal outside America. | ||
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xgtx
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On August 04 2012 08:12 xgtx wrote: usa is the only reason i watch basketball, i generally dont like it ( isnt even popular in europe anyway) but nba stars are amazing Shockingly there a lot of americans who prefer to watch college basketball over the nba. | ||
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
On August 04 2012 08:18 igotmyown wrote: Shockingly there a lot of americans who prefer to watch college basketball over the nba. I can't even watch the NBA. College ball is where it's at. | ||
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TommyP
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Itsmedudeman
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On August 04 2012 09:00 xgtx wrote: what? why? why would you watch worse players?? The general atmosphere at games are more hyped and school pride kind of stuff. Once march madness starts (playoffs) it gets pretty crazy at the stadiums and bo1 situations make games pretty intense and down to the wire. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On August 04 2012 09:00 xgtx wrote: what? why? why would you watch worse players?? College Basketball is much better. People care about college basketball where as I dont know one person who would go to an NBA game and scream their head off and lose their voice. The atomoshpere is 10x better the rivalries are much better and the NBA plays so many more games that its just kind of what ever for the regular season. I love basketball, its my favorite sport and ive been playing all my life, but I cannot watch an NBA regular season game for more than 15 minutes. Although this has improved of late, I feel defense just isnt as important for a lot of players as offense where college basketball every play matters and every game does as well and the NBA i dont feel im missing anything if I just catch the highlights. On top of all this, the NCAA basketball tournament is probably the best post season tournament in all of sports, that alone, makes March my favorite month of the year. EDIT: although they are worse now, these are the guys who will be the NBA's stars some day. I watch NBA finals though and if the Pacers are playing in the post season Ill watch their games or if it is game 7 of a series. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On August 04 2012 03:03 BBMorti wrote: Very likely, Basketball is just not a big deal outside America. tell that to China. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
Seriously though, the NBA actually has talent, so its more entertaining. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
I'm actually enjoying watching these Olympics. The USA games aren't close but there's beauty in watching the best players in the world play as a team. We never get to see that in the NBA. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On August 04 2012 10:28 Holcan wrote: NBA Basketball is much better. People care about NBA basketball where as I dont know one person who would go to an college game and scream their head off and lose their voice. The atomoshpere is 10x better the rivalries are much better and the NBA plays so many more games that its just compacted with great games during the regular season. I love basketball, its my favorite sport and ive been playing all my life, but I cannot watch an college regular season game for more than 15 minutes. unfortunately the one and done rule has made college basketball deteriorate of late, I feel defense just isnt as important for a lot of players as offense where NBA basketball every play is important and every game does as well and the NCAA i dont feel im missing anything if I just catch the highlights. On top of all this, the NBA basketball tournament is probably the best post season tournament in all of sports, that alone, makes April my favorite month of the year. Seriously though, the NBA actually has talent, so its more entertaining. Funny guy. College basketball has a lot of talent too, some guys could play right away in the NBA like Kyrie Irving didnt need a year at Duke for example. Saying college basketball doesnt have talent is like saying that everybody outside of Korea in Starcraft 2 has no talent. Id compare the NBA to Korea and College to Europe (Better players in Korea, better players in NBA of course there are a couple that could be playing in the NBA just like Stephano and Naniwa can play with Koreans). there are a load of Korean players, some players you never hear of would be europes best (bench players in NBA for example would be better than almost all of college's players.) But there are just so many good players (so many games) that you just get lost and so many without personality (NBA as a whole is just lacking intensity and doesnt have near the fan support that college teams get from their fans) like Swedes will go crazy for Thorzain or Naniwa and their love for them (like people's love for their college team) cannot be matched by a Swedish fans admiration for MC or a top korean (for the most part.) | ||
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
On August 04 2012 10:28 Holcan wrote: NBA Basketball is much better. People care about NBA basketball where as I dont know one person who would go to an college game and scream their head off and lose their voice. The atomoshpere is 10x better the rivalries are much better and the NBA plays so many more games that its just compacted with great games during the regular season. I love basketball, its my favorite sport and ive been playing all my life, but I cannot watch an college regular season game for more than 15 minutes. unfortunately the one and done rule has made college basketball deteriorate of late, I feel defense just isnt as important for a lot of players as offense where NBA basketball every play is important and every game does as well and the NCAA i dont feel im missing anything if I just catch the highlights. On top of all this, the NBA basketball tournament is probably the best post season tournament in all of sports, that alone, makes April my favorite month of the year. Seriously though, the NBA actually has talent, so its more entertaining. o ic. You wrote what he wrote and flipped it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA | ||
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Russano
United States425 Posts
On August 04 2012 11:12 TommyP wrote: [ Funny guy. College basketball has a lot of talent too, some guys could play right away in the NBA like Kyrie Irving didnt need a year at Duke for example. Yes imagine that, the number 1 draft pick has talent. Out of all the players on all those college teams, there are like 10 players who end up being good, and the rest ride the bench. People just like different parts of both college and nba play. College rivalries are definately better, because everyone in the stands pretty much goes to that freaking school. So the atmosphere can be excellent. However comparing talent between the two is just absurd. The NBA is so insanely more talented than college play that you look like a total moron if you say otherwise. It's really just a matter of preference with which is more enjoyable to watch, saying one or the other is totally worthless doesn't really work. | ||
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WniO
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Itsmedudeman
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
On August 04 2012 13:45 Russano wrote: Yes imagine that, the number 1 draft pick has talent. Out of all the players on all those college teams, there are like 10 players who end up being good, and the rest ride the bench. People just like different parts of both college and nba play. College rivalries are definately better, because everyone in the stands pretty much goes to that freaking school. So the atmosphere can be excellent. However comparing talent between the two is just absurd. The NBA is so insanely more talented than college play that you look like a total moron if you say otherwise. It's really just a matter of preference with which is more enjoyable to watch, saying one or the other is totally worthless doesn't really work. I don't think he said they are more talented, he didn't even compare them. He said that there is still a lot of talent in CBB and saying the NBA has more talent is just stating the obvious. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
and why does it matter if there are high scoring games? its more fun when its in the 70s range and you get a defensive stop and the fans go crazy rather than each team scores and then keeps scoring. There are a lot of college games that are in the 90s and 100s too. | ||
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igotmyown
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Also a lot of the playoff losses are much more devastating than in college. They spend years training, then they push themselves so hard. In the finals Durant and Ibaka were in tears in the 4th quarter. Durant cried for a week after the finals Lebron's game 6 against the Celtics would have crushed his career if he lost. Some of the nba losses can almost destroy who you are as a person, which is why it means so much for them when they win. http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/5/20/2181650/charles-barkley-michael-jordan-2011-nba-playoffs When Barkley realized Michael Jordan was better than him. You know, I'd always thought that I was the best player, to be honest with you. I always thought, Michael Jordan when he started winning, he just had more help than me. So, when I finally came to Phoenix, I had told the late, great Cotton Fitzsimmons, 'Hey dude, I'm the best basketball player in the world. We're going to the Finals.' And he said, 'That's why I traded for you.' ... So Game 2, I'm talking to my daughter. She said, 'Dad? Are y'all gonna win tonight?' I said, 'Baby, your dad is the best basketball player in the world. I'm going to dominate the game tonight.' And I remember... I think I had like 46, 47. I played great. And Michael had 52. And I got home that night, and my daughter was crying, and she said, 'Dad, y'all lost again.' I said, 'Baby, I think Michael Jordan's better than me.' She said, 'Dad, you've never said that before.' I said, 'Baby, I've never felt like that before.' | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On August 04 2012 15:45 igotmyown wrote: Celtics fans care. Also college teams defense makes me cringe compared to a good nba team. They don't close out consistently, it's shameful. Also a lot of the playoff losses are much more devastating than in college. They spend years training, then they push themselves so hard. In the finals Durant and Ibaka were in tears in the 4th quarter. Durant cried for a week after the finals Lebron's game 6 against the Celtics would have crushed his career if he lost. Some of the nba losses can almost destroy who you are as a person, which is why it means so much for them when they win. http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/5/20/2181650/charles-barkley-michael-jordan-2011-nba-playoffs When Barkley realized Michael Jordan was better than him. yes Lakers, Celtics, bulls and maybe a couple of teams have fans that are good, there are still how many others that are shamefully bad. AT the end of the day those guys are still making millions and college basketball they are trying to prove themselves in order to some day make millions. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 04 2012 16:07 TommyP wrote: yes Lakers, Celtics, bulls and maybe a couple of teams have fans that are good, there are still how many others that are shamefully bad. AT the end of the day those guys are still making millions and college basketball they are trying to prove themselves in order to some day make millions. Yea so? I don't see your point. Their goal is still to win championships isnt it? | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 04 2012 19:25 AxionSteel wrote: A lot of the smaller market teams like San Antonio and Portland have amazing fans, they don't have competition from other major sports I guess. Okc fans are amazing too. At games atleast. Anyone watching Spain - Russia? | ||
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thuracine
United States582 Posts
On August 04 2012 19:27 Roggay wrote: Okc fans are amazing too. At games atleast. Anyone watching Spain - Russia? Russia fighting! they had a bad start and kept fighting now with the lead | ||
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AxionSteel
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soujiro_
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Telcontar
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Australia14949 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 04 2012 23:12 Telcontar wrote: Lithuania really bringing it to USA. Hope they can keep up in the second half. Yea, they are really playing well atm. Let's hope they can keep this up and bring a good game until the end. | ||
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K_Dilkington
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soujiro_
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
Stop chucking and pass! | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 04 2012 23:14 Doraemon wrote: i'd be interested to see the entire USA roster's salary, it would be comparable to like the total of most of other countries entire sports' programs lol probably. those guys are paid an absurd amount. I wish I could do something to make that much money >.> | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On August 04 2012 23:45 Shellshock1122 wrote: probably. those guys are paid an absurd amount. I wish I could do something to make that much money >.> well most of them are maxed, total annual salary would be over $200m i reckon, insane, that's like the annual salary of athletes from heaps of coutries. lithuania playing awesome, usa needs to play more D | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On August 04 2012 23:45 RowdierBob wrote: Lolol, Kobe thinks he playing for the Lakers. Stop chucking and pass! This is the only passing he can do. | ||
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Ysellian
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
On August 04 2012 23:49 Telcontar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Od75L6A8E This is the only passing he can do. Well played, sir. | ||
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Australia13007 Posts
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Australia41 Posts
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Australia41 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 05 2012 00:05 RowdierBob wrote: Wow, 29 3PA from the US O_O Sounds like they got greedy after the way they shot vs Nigeria | ||
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Australia13007 Posts
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AxionSteel
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On August 05 2012 00:17 RowdierBob wrote: Don't get all the hype from Raps fans about Jonas Valanciunas. He looks like a fairly grim prospect if his Olympics play is anything to go by. He is a kid...he absolutely destroyed the USA players in the junior world champs last year, a USA team that featured a number of people drafted this year. He'll play well with Toronto, totally different environment. | ||
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Juissi
Finland209 Posts
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Daz89
Australia41 Posts
On August 05 2012 00:19 Toadily wrote: That was too close.. I can't watch it live while I'm still in China, what happened in the game o.O They were still in the mindset of the game versus Nigeria I reckon, shooting far too much without hitting many at all. Their free throws were terrible and their defense was slack. Lithuania have got to be happy with that, unusual that they lost to France though. USA are going to have to pick up their game if they want to beat Argentina. | ||
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Taug
United States146 Posts
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IntoTheWow
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K_Dilkington
Sweden449 Posts
On August 05 2012 01:33 Taug wrote: I dont think USA plays hard or with any effort against ass teams. Lithuania is the no. 5 ranked team in the world. | ||
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MidKnight
Lithuania884 Posts
On August 05 2012 01:33 Taug wrote: I dont think USA plays hard or with any effort against ass teams. And then USA wonders why it gets bad rep in Europe.. Yes, USA team is better by a fair margin and they didn't play their best today. But they almost got burnt and this cocky attitude doesn't change that. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
On August 05 2012 01:56 MidKnight wrote: And then USA wonders why it gets bad rep in Europe.. Yes, USA team is better by a fair margin and they didn't play their best today. But they almost got burnt and this cocky attitude doesn't change that. Being cocky is good as it shows confidence. As long as it doesn't cross over into arrogance it's fine. With that being said I'm not even sure if you can really call them cocky. Definitely confident though. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On August 05 2012 02:46 Maenander wrote: Lithuania is a true basketball nation, a population of 3 million and so much talent Yes, they're awesome. Competing against a country with 100x the population, always been a big fan of Lithuanian basketball. I was at the Semi Final in Sydney 2000 where they went down by two or so to the USA, then they beat them 4 years later. Still competitive now. | ||
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Order
Lithuania231 Posts
What can I say? Great game today. To be fair, we didn't expect to beat the USA team, but the bar where I watched the game went balistic over the course of that game. Even tho you won, we still consider it a pretty big "moral win" for us. I know that USA is better but everyone has bad games. Maybe today was your bad game. We also lost to France which we should have beaten to be honest. That was our bad game. I see a lof of you are saying that it was more "USA losing" than "Lithuania winning" today and maybe that's true. But you don't even imagine what games like those bring to our hearts. We say basketball is our second religion and we've been saying it with a straight face for like 5 years now. We have to remember that basketball itself is very different in Europe and America. I don't want to take anything from the USA team - they are the best in the world after all, but to me it compares with what happened to the dutch in this years euro2012 soccer championship. A team with nothing but international superstars - didn't even pass the group stage. Just saying there's a slight chance for us. So proud of my team. Also: | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On August 05 2012 02:46 Maenander wrote: Lithuania is a true basketball nation, a population of 3 million and so much talent man i'm so jealous of lithuania as a canadian. we've got 10x that population people and we're too busy playing hockey . not that i hate the sport but man the basketball atmosphere in that country must be great | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On August 05 2012 07:35 Itsmedudeman wrote: Honestly, if we took out the african american community from USA basketball we'd probably lose a ton of games and wouldn't even medal. With that said, USA are made or broken at the 3 point line like I've said probably 50x. If those don't start going in then there's not much synergy within the team with 3 big men out and injured. Nah we'd probably get silver or bronze. Tyler Hansbrough Jason Kidd a lot of college kids brian scalabrine lol | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On August 05 2012 07:54 TommyP wrote: Nah we'd probably get silver or bronze. Tyler Hansbrough Jason Kidd a lot of college kids brian scalabrine lol Everyone knows Jason Kidd is black, duh. I think Barea is from Puerto Rico, so he might count as American. David Andersen, David Lee, Kevin Love would be effective bigs. Bonner can hit 3's. Hansborough and Chris Andersen (kiddy porn allegations aside) could work as more traditional bigs. JJ Redick, Kyle Korver as wings? Mike Miller before back problems? Mr. Kardashian? I feel like there's a lot of white defensive shooting guards that I'm missing. And a bunch of people on the 2011 houston rockets. And the Jazz a few years ago and Indiana now. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On August 05 2012 03:57 Order wrote: Hey guys. Lithuanian here. What can I say? Great game today. To be fair, we didn't expect to beat the USA team, but the bar where I watched the game went balistic over the course of that game. Even tho you won, we still consider it a pretty big "moral win" for us. I know that USA is better but everyone has bad games. Maybe today was your bad game. We also lost to France which we should have beaten to be honest. That was our bad game. I see a lof of you are saying that it was more "USA losing" than "Lithuania winning" today and maybe that's true. But you don't even imagine what games like those bring to our hearts. We say basketball is our second religion and we've been saying it with a straight face for like 5 years now. We have to remember that basketball itself is very different in Europe and America. I don't want to take anything from the USA team - they are the best in the world after all, but to me it compares with what happened to the dutch in this years euro2012 soccer championship. A team with nothing but international superstars - didn't even pass the group stage. Just saying there's a slight chance for us. So proud of my team. Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mEPiLqzZNQ Remind me to add Lithuania as a country I must visit one of these days. If the basketball atmosphere there is as good as you say it is I should feel right at home. Today's game was pretty interesting to say the least. We saw the United States playing some pretty terrible basketball, and the Lithuanians playing some pretty incredible basketball. Take away a lot of the bad turnovers they had and they would have won that game. That said, even playing well below what you'd expect the US still got the win so I guess that just says how good our team really is. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On August 05 2012 10:06 igotmyown wrote: Everyone knows Jason Kidd is black, duh. I think Barea is from Puerto Rico, so he might count as American. David Andersen, David Lee, Kevin Love would be effective bigs. Bonner can hit 3's. Hansborough and Chris Andersen (kiddy porn allegations aside) could work as more traditional bigs. JJ Redick, Kyle Korver as wings? Mike Miller before back problems? Mr. Kardashian? I feel like there's a lot of white defensive shooting guards that I'm missing. And a bunch of people on the 2011 houston rockets. And the Jazz a few years ago and Indiana now. He looks white to me lol. | ||
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
and hope Lehigh > The World | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On August 05 2012 14:17 Itsmedudeman wrote: Let's not kid ourselves here. Any college team would get dumpstered hard. I always hate when people claim that the top college teams would be able to beat some NBA teams cause no, no they wouldn't. That's why we started sending pros in the first place, and ever since the college teams actually started losing, the international scene has gotten 10x better. Just remember we had a big argument just this past year that Kentucky state was actually better than some NBA teams.... College Basketball fans, some of the more fanatical ones anyway, are truly convinced that the level of play they are a fan of would be competitive with the professional level and it just isn't. Can't convince them though they'll fight tooth and nail on the point. I was actually just having a conversation with my dad and he was wondering aloud when and why the olympics changed their once upheld rule that the Olympics was for amateur athletes only and professionals were banned from participating. I offered the view that under those rules communist or socialist societies held a huge unfair advantage because they could train professionals that technically weren't professionals because they never made a profit off of what they did but rather had all of their needs and wants taken care of by the state, and that athletes from capitalist societies had to be paid to support themselves to ever truly match that level of skill and talent. Basketball reminds me a lot of that in a lot of respects. If the US decided tomorrow to just stop sending top NBA players to the olympics that doesn't mean other countries would follow suit, and we'd end up losing medals that otherwise we would have won just because we didn't send the best we had to offer. And isn't that what the olympics are all about when you think about it? a competition to see who the true best in the world is? That's my rant for now. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
On August 05 2012 07:35 Itsmedudeman wrote: Honestly, if we took out the african american community from USA basketball we'd probably lose a ton of games and wouldn't even medal. With that said, USA are made or broken at the 3 point line like I've said probably 50x. If those don't start going in then there's not much synergy within the team with 3 big men out and injured. Why would you even consider taking out the African Americans from the usa team... | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On August 06 2012 00:36 krndandaman wrote: anyone know where to watch highlights/recaps of usa basketball games? T__T desperate ESPN.COM | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On August 06 2012 00:33 EchelonTee wrote: Why would you even consider taking out the African Americans from the usa team... well a team consists of JKidd, DWill, Blake Griffin, Kevin Love will still be gold-medal contender Even washed-out veteran like Tim Duncan could still put up a good show | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On August 05 2012 07:35 Itsmedudeman wrote: Honestly, if we took out the african american community from USA basketball we'd probably lose a ton of games and wouldn't even medal. With that said, USA are made or broken at the 3 point line like I've said probably 50x. If those don't start going in then there's not much synergy within the team with 3 big men out and injured. I've always wondered why a vast majority of the top white players are not American. Are they choosing other sports or what, I don't get it. He is mixed race | ||
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
On August 06 2012 01:47 Arceus wrote: well a team consists of JKidd, DWill, Blake Griffin, Kevin Love will still be gold-medal contender Even washed-out veteran like Tim Duncan could still put up a good showGriffin is black too. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
Everyone you named except Kevin Love are black. | ||
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United States19229 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On August 06 2012 04:43 igotmyown wrote: Everyone you named except Kevin Love are black. my eyes must have failed me badly, but at least they are not of African origin | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On August 06 2012 06:16 Arceus wrote: my eyes must have failed me badly, but at least they are not of African origin they are all mixed race same as grant hill, kris humphries, etc etc i could go on. college players have no chance against olympic players. us almost lost to lithuania with nothing but allstars... college players would get absolutely destroyed. they could win against angola/nigeria but any top15 team would beat college allstars. | ||
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
the winner gets put into the usa/argentina side bracket (argentina quarters, usa semis) while the loser gets put into the france/russia side bracket (france quarters, russia semis) shall we see some tanking?... would be interesting with the whole badminton thing that already happened | ||
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Smat
United States301 Posts
On August 06 2012 07:22 shawster wrote: they are all mixed race same as grant hill, kris humphries, etc etc i could go on. college players have no chance against olympic players. us almost lost to lithuania with nothing but allstars... college players would get absolutely destroyed. they could win against angola/nigeria but any top15 team would beat college allstars. Why do you say this? Some of the best players in the NBA were in college a year ago. Sure the average championship college team is no where near as good as the average NBA team. But a group of the best college players in the country is a group of future NBA studs usually. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On August 06 2012 17:01 Smat wrote: Why do you say this? Some of the best players in the NBA were in college a year ago. Sure the average championship college team is no where near as good as the average NBA team. But a group of the best college players in the country is a group of future NBA studs usually. That's the key word- "future". When they enter the NBA they are no where near where they will be after 1-2 years playing with the pros. Look at the statlines for a lot of the best rookies and they typically jump significantly after their first year. Not just in terms of ability, but also in terms of basketball IQ and being able to play with 4 other players they've never played with before. | ||
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On August 06 2012 16:14 simmeh wrote: not sure if anyone has talked about it... but tomorrow's game will be interesting between brazil and spain the winner gets put into the usa/argentina side bracket (argentina quarters, usa semis) while the loser gets put into the france/russia side bracket (france quarters, russia semis) shall we see some tanking?... would be interesting with the whole badminton thing that already happened They should make it so the winner get's to choose which side of the bracket they go on or something... This is a pretty crap situation. | ||
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On August 06 2012 21:16 TommyP wrote: Is Andrew bogut playing or is he still hurt or did he get hurt two years ago? Well he had that horrific arm injury two seasons ago, but he's out atm with an ankle injury so completely different. It was a bad one though. | ||
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On August 06 2012 06:16 Arceus wrote: my eyes must have failed me badly, but at least they are not of African origin Any mixed race with black is normally considered black in the US. It's a product of a racist philosophy from a few hundred years ago that people got so used to that it never changed. | ||
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On August 06 2012 16:14 simmeh wrote: not sure if anyone has talked about it... but tomorrow's game will be interesting between brazil and spain the winner gets put into the usa/argentina side bracket (argentina quarters, usa semis) while the loser gets put into the france/russia side bracket (france quarters, russia semis) shall we see some tanking?... would be interesting with the whole badminton thing that already happened Wow, both teams would definitely try their best to lose :p just hope they don't make it too obvious. | ||
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Jerubaal
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Also, never knew Varejao dyed his hair. | ||
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On August 07 2012 06:05 MassHysteria wrote: Anyone where I can watch the US-Argentina game online? Get ExPat Shield and watch on BBC. | ||
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nvm found it + Show Spoiler + http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/2012/live-video/p00w31xh | ||
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No dunk yet. :o | ||
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On August 07 2012 06:50 Telcontar wrote: Did the refs really miss that? lol Like in every match in the Olympics, i've seen so far, the refs are really wierd. | ||
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AxionSteel
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On August 07 2012 06:41 seiferoth10 wrote: I wish we had the Australian commentators for this one, those guys are hilarious when we see highlight level plays. People outside Aus hear them? Thought theyd just be for us lol. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On August 07 2012 06:50 Telcontar wrote: Did the refs really miss that? lol You mean the dunk from iguadala? Pretty sure they gave em the points, I saw it go from 43 to 45 during argentina's possession, but argentina never inbounded on that possession and got a 3. | ||
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On August 07 2012 06:59 Itsmedudeman wrote: You mean the dunk from iguadala? Pretty sure they gave em the points, I saw it go from 43 to 45 during argentina's possession, but argentina never inbounded on that possession and got a 3. Did they? The BBC commentators were sure the basket wasn't given. Maybe they weren't paying attention, like me. | ||
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On August 07 2012 07:01 Telcontar wrote: Did they? The BBC commentators were sure the basket wasn't given. Maybe they weren't paying attention, like me. Im pretty sure it was given. Edit: I have the vod and yea it was given. Just no inbound afterwards. | ||
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On August 07 2012 07:04 soujiro_ wrote: the first thing the commentators here said was that it shouldnt count On what basis? | ||
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r00ty
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Coach K time! We'll see a different 2nd half. Still rooting for Argentina! | ||
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r00ty
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Travelling by Andre. Without a doubt. | ||
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Usually they're really good about calling travels too. | ||
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On August 07 2012 07:15 Itsmedudeman wrote: ? That wasn't a travel by andre. In the situation when he started his run mid court, took a looong step past a guy(?) before starting to dribble. Was 40-42 or something. I haven't seen a replay yet, they only showed the dunk afterwards, but i (and the uk commentators and the german commentators) am pretty sure. Won't matter in the end anyway. | ||
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On August 07 2012 07:29 Itsmedudeman wrote: I don't really know what bryant is doing. Doing what he always does. Do it all by himself. | ||
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shawster
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LOL lebrons reaction to the foul | ||
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yeah,kobe's iso bb is kinda hurting the offense. | ||
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Germany1056 Posts
KD's shot is thing of beauty! | ||
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That was better than any dunk | ||
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On August 07 2012 07:42 Telcontar wrote: Can't believe Westbrook actually kicked it out. Everyone seems to understand the concept of USA basketball except kobe... Literally everyone picked up a role they need to play and trusts each other to make the shot except kobe. Well actually, I don't think it's even that. I think kobe knows his teammates can make it but he doesn't want to be left out of the picture. | ||
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On August 07 2012 07:50 Telcontar wrote: Davis is so long. I wonder who's longer, him or Durant. the same i believe 7'5 and 7'6 wingspan for durant and davis | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On August 07 2012 07:51 shawster wrote: the same i believe 7'5 and 7'6 wingspan for durant and davis Thanks. Pretty insane. I believe Javale Mcgee has the longest wingspan in the NBA, right? | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On August 07 2012 07:53 Telcontar wrote: Thanks. Pretty insane. I believe Javale Mcgee has the longest wingspan in the NBA, right? actually davis and durant are both 7'5 and mcgee is 7'6 | ||
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
On August 07 2012 07:53 Telcontar wrote: Thanks. Pretty insane. I believe Javale Mcgee has the longest wingspan in the NBA, right? Hasheem Thabeet has 7'9 imo. But he won't be in the NBA much longer. | ||
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I missed most of the 3rd, but looking at the scores, you have to think that the lack of depth on Argentina doomed them from the start. They couldn't keep up the blistering pace on offense and the U.S. could. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
I liked how most isolation plays failed. Kobe doesn't get it. Just pass the fucking ball, everybody is a threat, you can't defend that. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 07 2012 08:04 Jerubaal wrote: ^^ Yeah really. If I was another country, I'm not sure I would like this U.S. team, but you see that showmanship (Westbrook) because they respect their opponents to some extent. The Dream Team didn't have to show any of that because they didn't have to try and didn't have to try against them. I missed most of the 3rd, but looking at the scores, you have to think that the lack of depth on Argentina doomed them from the start. They couldn't keep up the blistering pace on offense and the U.S. could. Yea, Argentina's bench couldnt keep up. | ||
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From what I remember of the halftime stats, the US had a 1-point lead while Argentina had a roughly 10% lead in FG%. The US was winning in the rebounding and turnover departments. When the FG% equalized in the 3rd, Argentina was done for. | ||
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r00ty
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On August 07 2012 08:43 Daniri wrote: What a dick. I loved his play in the first half, but that's just nasty and stupid. | ||
Klogon
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On August 07 2012 08:55 r00ty wrote: What a dick. I loved his play in the first half, but that's just nasty and stupid. I see what you did there. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On August 07 2012 07:53 Telcontar wrote: Thanks. Pretty insane. I believe Javale Mcgee has the longest wingspan in the NBA, right? Shaq had a 7'7" wingspan, and Perkins is the same (or 7'6.5") Pau Gasol's 7'5", Kevin Garnett's similar, 7'5"+ it may sound one of a kind but it's not in the nba. I think Darko and Roy Hibbert are up there as well. | ||
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aviator116
United States820 Posts
On August 07 2012 07:44 Itsmedudeman wrote: Everyone seems to understand the concept of USA basketball except kobe... Literally everyone picked up a role they need to play and trusts each other to make the shot except kobe. Well actually, I don't think it's even that. I think kobe knows his teammates can make it but he doesn't want to be left out of the picture. lol somebody doesn't like kobe | ||
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If you were watching the game you know I'd be right. Coach K took him out of the game immediately after what he did. Even the BBC commentators were calling him out on it. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On August 07 2012 14:18 Itsmedudeman wrote: If you were watching the game you know I'd be right. Coach K took him out of the game immediately after what he did. Even the BBC commentators were calling him out on it. Breaking news, Pau Gasol starts heavily lobbying for coach K to replace Mike Brown. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
You gotta admit though, that you need some balls to pull off a dickmove just in front of the US bench! >.< OT question: Does coach K really get 4m$ each year as a college coach? Does he also do advertising and/or has personal sponsors? I know there have always been NBA offers, well now i understand why he prefers to stay a legend at Kentucky. He and Greg Popovich (6m, says google) are really worth their money imho. | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On August 07 2012 21:11 r00ty wrote: You gotta admit though, that you need some balls to pull off a dickmove just in front of the US bench! >.< OT question: Does coach K really get 4m$ each year as a college coach? Does he also do advertising and/or has personal sponsors? I know there have always been NBA offers, well now i understand why he prefers to stay a legend at Kentucky. He and Greg Popovich (6m, says google) are really worth their money imho. Doesn't he coach Duke? And yeah, I can see Duke having that type of money. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
On August 07 2012 21:33 ghrur wrote: Doesn't he coach Duke? And yeah, I can see Duke having that type of money. Oops my bad mixed something up there. Unfortunately US college basketball is non existent in German media. Just knew that many have tried to lure him into the NBA for quite a while and was surprised when i googled his salary, concerning the rules for money and college players. (which is a good thing) | ||
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AxionSteel
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Very tense contest this | ||
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What a meltdown. | ||
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Malaz
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I'm only cheering against Spain because they do shit like this all the time. Booooooo | ||
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Malaz
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On August 09 2012 02:03 Roggay wrote: Ahahah Batum, he is so angry. He just wanted to spare them the acting job | ||
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On August 09 2012 02:06 Telcontar wrote: I hope Russia destroys Spain. Yea, and its not like this team has any hope against USA. Well, not that any team has, but it wont be a close game at all. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:00 r00ty wrote: Rudy Fernandez needs a punch from time to time. Diving piece of shit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daXwJ3KRgbI Not bad. I've seen much worse from Chris Paul though. | ||
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-IeZaeL-
Spain327 Posts
Batum and Turiaf,kill urself , retards. User was warned for this post | ||
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ArnaudF
France993 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:15 -IeZaeL- wrote: spain playing at 20%.....but no problem...we won vs this animals... Bye bye france. Batum and Turiaf,kill urself , retards. They should have hit harder. | ||
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december.nine
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![[image loading]](http://twitpic.com/show/thumb/ah00y2.jpg) Fair play. | ||
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Malaz
Germany1257 Posts
/qft. If Spain flops anyways, why not really hit them? | ||
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ArnaudF
France993 Posts
From now on when I'll suffer a down time I will watch this and it'll cheer me up! | ||
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-IeZaeL-
Spain327 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Kanku
France123 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:28 -IeZaeL- wrote: Im so sorry for france.....first was football.......now basketball........im very very sorry......... You forgot handball, oh wait... | ||
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ArnaudF
France993 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:28 -IeZaeL- wrote: Im so sorry for france.....first was football.......now basketball........im very very sorry......... If you can forget how lame you are at these Olympic games by saying this it's ok for me. You want to take a look at the medals ranking to see how we both do? | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:15 -IeZaeL- wrote: spain playing at 20%.....but no problem...we won vs this animals... Bye bye france. Batum and Turiaf,kill urself , retards. User was warned for this post Only a warning for this ? Wow.. | ||
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Spain327 Posts
handwhat? xddddddddddddd!! i feel so bad....oh wait!!!!!!!! :D | ||
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France123 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:53 d00p wrote: ^ Yeah not that it's any of my business but nobody gives two shits about handball. I'm sad that Lithuania lost. Spain looked flimsy so I think it's USA - Russia in the finals. Should be an ok match but not close obviously. Well basketball equal at best a silver medal whereas in handball everything is still possible so not so sure about that... | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
So I guess nut shots are going to be the theme of Olympic basketball this year? 1 vs Carmelo Anthony. Same guy from Argentina claims Chris Paul hit him in the nuts in the same game. Now this? >.> | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:53 d00p wrote: ^ Yeah not that it's any of my business but nobody gives two shits about handball. I'm sad that Lithuania lost. Spain looked flimsy so I think it's USA - Russia in the finals. Should be an ok match but not close obviously. Because your little person knows nothing about a sport doesn't mean nobody gives a shit. Handball is pretty big in Germany, France and nordic countries, Spain also have a good team and their Liga is big too... | ||
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Roggay
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On August 09 2012 04:50 Jerubaal wrote: Why was Batum so angry? Was it a chippy game beforehand? Rudy fernandez was flopping left and right and the game was lost for France. Batum got angry. | ||
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On August 09 2012 05:15 trancey wrote: does anyone have a good DNS or streaming site for this? the site I used, stream2watch.me, just had the stream suspended get expatshield and stream off BBC | ||
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Intact
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On August 09 2012 03:05 d00p wrote: Watch it with the personal insults. And handball is most certainly not big in the nordic countries. It's a marginal sport. Maybe it's a little bigger in Denmark, I'm not sure though. And apparently Iceland rules in it so your're right in that sense i guess. Lol what. Just because Finland never won a handball game ever does not mean the rest of the nordics is like that . | ||
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trancey
United States430 Posts
thank you! I wish I had this last week | ||
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dmnum
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c'mon, don't lose to argentina | ||
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why is verajao not playing | ||
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dmnum
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brazil had a chance to tie twice but threw away both balls | ||
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On August 09 2012 06:24 Juissi wrote: Am i the only who thinks that Kobe is probably the worst player of team USA? Its not that he is bad, its that he doesnt understand the word "team". | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
On August 09 2012 06:25 Roggay wrote: Its not that he is bad, its that he doesnt understand the word "team". Also Kobe shines best when he needs to come through with the clutch, something team usa doesn't really have to do at all compared to the lakers. If you got 5 seconds left and your down a point or two, there is nobody in the world you would give the ball to over kobe. | ||
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Decessus
Brazil105 Posts
I ask this in total ignorance, basketball isn't played where I live at all. | ||
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On August 09 2012 06:34 scaban84 wrote: His clutch shooting ranking is actually quite low. In the 20's overall in the NBA. He just gets the attention in all the highlights because he is Kobe. Carmelo Anthony is actually ranked much higher. Still, you trust Kobe to carry the game when it matters most, like in '08. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On August 09 2012 06:44 Decessus wrote: Sorry to ask this here, but what are the rules about the use of a player's off arm when he is dribbling? I see some plays where it seems like the player dribbling is pushing his opponent and nothing is called. I ask this in total ignorance, basketball isn't played where I live at all. Well...You're not allowed to push on the guy with your arm, but it's quite common for the arm to be out there nonetheless. It's very helpful for shedding the defender as you turn that corner. Carmelo did get called for offensive pushing off. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 09 2012 06:44 Decessus wrote: Sorry to ask this here, but what are the rules about the use of a player's off arm when he is dribbling? I see some plays where it seems like the player dribbling is pushing his opponent and nothing is called. I ask this in total ignorance, basketball isn't played where I live at all. You are not supposed to push with your off arm. But they won't whistle it if you are not too obvious with it. It depends on the referees really. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On August 09 2012 06:46 Whatson wrote: Still, you trust Kobe to carry the game when it matters most, like in '08. Back then, sure. However, this is not the same Kobe. He's lost half a step due to injuries (and maybe a little to age), and instead of adapting his play and trying to create better looks through his teammates, he still tries to do everything by himself. And I get the sense that he gets more and more frustrated when that doesn't work, which doesn't help. Perhaps it's just who he is as a baller, and trying to change him is like trying to teach an old dog new tricks. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
Also, Deron Williams is the smoothest ballhandler. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
On August 09 2012 07:03 Jerubaal wrote: Badabababa- I'm Lovin' it. Also, Deron Williams is the smoothest ballhandler. I'd like to have his ballhandling and KD's shot. Just beautiful. When Deron played in Turkey he scored 50 points in a Euroleague game 40km from where i'm living and i was too late to get a ticket, still angry about that. -,-Nice to see, the boomers are not getting absolutely slaughtered (so far). | ||
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I agree though. | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
kd and lebron have to be more assertive tho. kd had 6'0 patrick mills on him and passed it up. get it to lebron in transition more that hang time and strength lmao | ||
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http://www.ilemi.me/23075/1/Watch-Olympic---USA-vs-Australia--Men-/ This game is really exciting. | ||
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Kobe: Ok, I'm done. Let me choke hold the nearest person so I can get out of here. | ||
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virpi
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the australians put up a good fight, but the sheer amount of skill in the us team is too much for everyone. I'm looking forward to the semi final against Argentina. Should be a bit closer than today, but I don't expect any surprises. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
Left for work this morning and we're down by five. Lose by 33 by the time I start. I've been really impressed with Joe Ingles this Olympics. He lacks the atheleticism of the Dream Team guys, but his BBIQ is right up there with some of them. I'd love to see him get a shot in the NBA when he's finished in Europe. | ||
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YODA_
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On August 09 2012 09:12 RowdierBob wrote: Dream Team can just turn on it when they need to. Left for work this morning and we're down by five. Lose by 33 by the time I start. I've been really impressed with Joe Ingles this Olympics. He lacks the atheleticism of the Dream Team guys, but his BBIQ is right up there with some of them. I'd love to see him get a shot in the NBA when he's finished in Europe. High basketball IQ just doesn't really cut it in the NBA. Ask, like, every decent college senior ever. High basketball IQ, smart decisions, and grittyness means nothing if you can't properly defend your position, you can't shoot, and just are not that athletic. Sad but true. That said, I've never watched him. I see he's 6'8', 200 lbs, does he play SF? Because a 6'8" 200lb PF is worthless in the NBA. Even at SF, 200lbs is still quite low and people like Lebron or Carmello would abuse him all day long. But they abuse just about anyone, so that hardly means he wouldn't get a shot. | ||
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bellsprout
Australia219 Posts
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
On August 09 2012 22:12 bellsprout wrote: I'm wondering...does coach K actually do any coaching? I've never seen him discuss any strat in his interviews, never seen him draw any plays in timeouts. does he leave it up to the assistant coaches, while he just acts as the team motivator/personality manager? They have assistant coach Dantoni, who's pretty good with offense but not exactly known for defense, which team USA is sorely lacking. Also, on offense, Team USA never runs any sets, very few pick n rolls, little penetration. they've been getting it done but they seem to make it a lot harder than it actually is. every other team does so much with so little, just with a little gameplan, but with team USA, it's like the exact opposite. just what I noticed anyway tbh when you have the lineup usa has, over-coaching is def a possibility. other than that, coach k is an AMAZING coach, one of the best in the history of the sport easily. | ||
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On August 09 2012 22:49 stratmatt wrote: tbh when you have the lineup usa has, over-coaching is def a possibility. other than that, coach k is an AMAZING coach, one of the best in the history of the sport easily. he could well be, but at the same time you can see how the results of Team USA may not be directly correlated with his coaching ability. and it's evident that there are some fundamentals that the team does not do very well, eg pick n roll defense. and i think at this stage of the team it can't be attributed to apathy/lack of effort | ||
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DamageControL
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On August 09 2012 23:43 bellsprout wrote: he could well be, but at the same time you can see how the results of Team USA may not be directly correlated with his coaching ability. and it's evident that there are some fundamentals that the team does not do very well, eg pick n roll defense. and i think at this stage of the team it can't be attributed to apathy/lack of effort Two words: Larry Brown. Yes, this team has problems (and indeed I don't think Coach K is necessarily the best coach for this job) but Larry ruined a team. Coach K realizes that undercoaching is better than making really stupid decisions and this point. | ||
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r00ty
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On August 09 2012 09:12 RowdierBob wrote: Dream Team can just turn on it when they need to. Left for work this morning and we're down by five. Lose by 33 by the time I start. I've been really impressed with Joe Ingles this Olympics. He lacks the atheleticism of the Dream Team guys, but his BBIQ is right up there with some of them. I'd love to see him get a shot in the NBA when he's finished in Europe. They are a fantastic US national team, but they are not the Dream Team. -,- | ||
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stratmatt
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On August 10 2012 01:52 r00ty wrote: They are a fantastic US national team, but they are not the Dream Team. -,- you're right. they might even be better with today's ridiculous athleticism. | ||
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Whatson
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On August 09 2012 23:43 bellsprout wrote: he could well be, but at the same time you can see how the results of Team USA may not be directly correlated with his coaching ability. and it's evident that there are some fundamentals that the team does not do very well, eg pick n roll defense. and i think at this stage of the team it can't be attributed to apathy/lack of effort It's not like it matters that much lol, not when you're twice as athletic and talented as any other team out there. Just getting all these egos to work together and play like a team is already good enough | ||
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holy_war
United States3590 Posts
On August 10 2012 02:25 Whatson wrote: It's not like it matters that much lol, not when you're twice as athletic and talented as any other team out there. Just getting all these egos to work together and play like a team is already good enough Exactly, Coach K has done a great job managing egos and making Team USA play as a pretty cohesive team. The 02' and 04' teams lacked team unity, not talent. | ||
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r00ty
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On August 10 2012 02:08 stratmatt wrote: you're right. they might even be better with today's ridiculous athleticism. Could be. We'll never know. Edit: can.. not.. resist.. So: The game and the players evolved big time, but MJ was a crazy(!) competitor and under the basket: Patrick Ewing and David Robinson in their prime against Chandler and KLove... It would be very close and those guys back then deserve more respect than Kobe gave 'em. What's next? Flaming Bill Russel for not being a freak athlete like D. Howard or Oscar Robertson because LeBron would own him? It was a stupid thing to say and is a stupid discussion in the end. On August 10 2012 03:45 zeratul_jf wrote: Sorry if this was stated in some part of the thread before but when are the semifinals? Tomorrow. Russia - Spain should be interesting. I expect a low score game around 75 points max per team. USA - Argentina: Will we see a surprise? Don't think so. I hope for an exciting game with less ball punching and other unsportsmanlike shit. Still rooting for the underdog. | ||
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andrewlt
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On August 10 2012 02:46 holy_war wrote: Exactly, Coach K has done a great job managing egos and making Team USA play as a pretty cohesive team. The 02' and 04' teams lacked team unity, not talent. Those teams were also poorly constructed. Too many ball stoppers who play one on one on offense. They didn't have good outside shooters. Some were terrible at defense. This team has plenty of good outside shooters who are good at the catch and shoot. They have good passers as well. Even the two biggest ball stoppers on the team (Kobe and Carmelo) are efficient enough at the catch and shoot that they work well when Lebron, Deron or CP3 are handling the ball. | ||
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bellsprout
Australia219 Posts
On August 10 2012 04:30 andrewlt wrote: Those teams were also poorly constructed. Too many ball stoppers who play one on one on offense. They didn't have good outside shooters. Some were terrible at defense. This team has plenty of good outside shooters who are good at the catch and shoot. They have good passers as well. Even the two biggest ball stoppers on the team (Kobe and Carmelo) are efficient enough at the catch and shoot that they work well when Lebron, Deron or CP3 are handling the ball. lol kobe. from what ive seen in this competition, i think other teams' best defense is to leave kobe open, D up the other 4 and hope coach K keeps giving kobe extended minutes like he's been doing. his garbage time display vs australia doesn't vindicate him at all, and he still plays no D. | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
On August 10 2012 16:22 bellsprout wrote: lol kobe. from what ive seen in this competition, i think other teams' best defense is to leave kobe open, D up the other 4 and hope coach K keeps giving kobe extended minutes like he's been doing. his garbage time display vs australia doesn't vindicate him at all, and he still plays no D. lol dude, you are talking about kobe bryant. nobody leaves kobe open, not even in the nba. | ||
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bellsprout
Australia219 Posts
On August 10 2012 23:51 stratmatt wrote: hmmm what i said about kobe sounded pretty bad. i ain't blind hatin. i will say this, however - team USA ain't the lakers. it's not built around kobe.lol dude, you are talking about kobe bryant. nobody leaves kobe open, not even in the nba. then again, they haven't really been tested yet. maybe he's just coasting in 2nd gear, saving it for that "oh shit" moment. u know lebron's going to be clutch 4 quarters. iguodala can go hard for 4 quarters too and he's prob been itching to sub kobe | ||
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stratmatt
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On August 11 2012 00:57 bellsprout wrote: hmmm what i said about kobe sounded pretty bad. i ain't blind hatin. i will say this, however - team USA ain't the lakers. it's not built around kobe. then again, they haven't really been tested yet. maybe he's just coasting in 2nd gear, saving it for that "oh shit" moment. u know lebron's going to be clutch 4 quarters. iguodala can go hard for 4 quarters too and he's prob been itching to sub kobe Well yeah Kobe is old now, and he is mostly coasting when he can due to pain we prob dont even know about, but when you absolutely need him he will be there, always will be. | ||
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Anyone watching the match btw? | ||
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r00ty
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On August 11 2012 01:33 Roggay wrote: Ahahah, rudy fernandez getting caught flopping. Anyone watching the match btw? Ye, i can not eat as much as i want to vomit when i see this guy pulling off his shit again and again... Unfortunately I cannot watch the rest of the match and beginning of USA - ARG. Gotta play myself. Hope Russia wil make it. | ||
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Roggay
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On August 11 2012 02:08 r00ty wrote: Ye, i can not eat as much as i want to vomit when i see this guy pulling off his shit again and again... Unfortunately I cannot watch the rest of the match and beginning of USA - ARG. Gotta play myself. Hope Russia wil make it. I want to play too But I sprained my ankle last week :/ | ||
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Roggay
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On August 11 2012 02:29 AxionSteel wrote: Noooo Russia meltdown Or spain actually woke up. | ||
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AxionSteel
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They are playing beautifully ATM yes. | ||
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bellsprout
Australia219 Posts
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Sprungjeezy
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On August 11 2012 03:14 skrotcyk wrote: anyone got a link to a livestream (with english commentary)? thanks If you download Expat Shield (easy program to use/download) it will give you UK proxy so you can use the BBC coverage of the Olympics (they have quite a few livestreams for all of the events). edit: I suppose I should clarify, to get to bbc's coverage you have to go to their website http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/2012/ - it's kind of a hassle to find what you want, but once you do it works pretty well. | ||
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Best team offense we've seen so far. | ||
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On August 11 2012 06:20 GwSC wrote: Coach K looking evil as always Dude needs some Claritin. | ||
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On August 11 2012 09:31 Necosarius wrote: The Olympics have made me really interested in basketball, when does the NBA start again and how do I follow it? easy way to find out is to follow the TL thread if nothing else. Pretty good at posting schedules and whatnot. Otherwise. www.nba.com has everything else you'll ever need. | ||
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bellsprout
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On August 11 2012 09:49 DannyJ wrote: if spain play 2nd half SF for both halves in F it will be competitiveI don't think this final will be anywhere near as competitive as 4 years ago. | ||
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Telcontar
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On August 12 2012 20:46 Jerubaal wrote: Ginobili was trying so hard but he just didn't quite have the magic. He had that steal at the end too... And what did he do after the steal? Go to ground looking for a foul. | ||
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Jerubaal
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On August 12 2012 20:49 Telcontar wrote: And what did he do after the steal? Go to ground looking for a foul. You could tell that from the cast could you? | ||
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Telcontar
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On August 12 2012 20:52 Jerubaal wrote: You could tell that from the cast could you? Of course. Didn't you see him trip over himself and then fling his hands up to the ref? | ||
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Juissi
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On August 12 2012 23:05 Telcontar wrote: Kobe passed? WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF?????????? I can confirm this. I saw it as well =) | ||
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Telcontar
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Perhaps we should give him the benefit of the doubt and call that an airball. | ||
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Fire Scariolo! | ||
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On August 12 2012 23:36 Elroi wrote: its so unfair that the most stupid basket ball player in the world is also the most talented. Im talking about kobe bryant. Most stupid? No, that's Javale Mcgee. | ||
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On August 12 2012 23:42 MilesTeg wrote: Refs, that's very nice but I don't think the US need thaaaaaaaat much help. Yea, Spain in trouble because of all these fouls. | ||
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Sadist
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Thats twice already this game (1 of them couldve been a foul, but it was still an egregious flop). | ||
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On August 12 2012 23:54 Doraemon wrote: cmon ref. it's basketball. you kinda expect contact on the block This is euro basketball though........ a touch is a foul! (reference to an earlier post in the thread) = ) | ||
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On August 12 2012 23:54 DannyJ wrote: Does international Bball always have this many fouls? This is practically unwatchable. No but they do have more shit refs than in the NBA. I know a lot of people complain about NBA refs but they're much better than anywhere else. | ||
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On August 12 2012 23:57 Sadist wrote: fucking rudy fernandez. He looked like he took a bullet to the head on that shit. lol that was hilarious | ||
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On August 12 2012 23:54 DannyJ wrote: Does international Bball always have this many fouls? This is practically unwatchable. There are more calls than in the NBA, not only for fouls also for travelling etc, NORMALLY. This game is not a good example though, it's watchable from time to time. NBA is just more athletic, so more contact being allowed is kind of logic. FIBA rules are for all leagues in Europe even the lowest one. | ||
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This game's almost making me miss the NBA refs. | ||
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On August 12 2012 23:59 r00ty wrote: There are more calls than in the NBA, not only for fouls also for travelling etc, NORMALLY. This game is not a good example though, it's watchable from time to time. NBA is just more athletic, so more contact being allowed is kind of logic. FIBA rules are for all leagues in Europe even the lowest one. In general, international refs whistle travels and stuff like that much more. But the way they whistle contacts is really different from ref to ref, some let the players play a lot more, and some whistle anything. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On August 13 2012 00:01 Vindicare605 wrote: This game's almost making me miss the NBA refs. ouch. lol. it's funny because before the game, the aussie tv was giving shoutouts to the aussie referee (our token presence) haha | ||
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Roggay
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On August 13 2012 00:01 seiferoth10 wrote: Didn't someone on Spain get a technical for flopping in one of their other games? Fernandez did get caught in the semis. | ||
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On August 12 2012 23:59 r00ty wrote: There are more calls than in the NBA, not only for fouls also for travelling etc, NORMALLY. This game is not a good example though, it's watchable from time to time. NBA is just more athletic, so more contact being allowed is kind of logic. FIBA rules are for all leagues in Europe even the lowest one. I am pretty sure more contact is allowed in Europe (normally), especially inside the paint. | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:13 xwoGworwaTsx wrote: Wow Spain really taking it to the NBA! lol Taking it to the NBA, yet alot of the spanish players play in the NBA to ;D | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:20 Telcontar wrote: Was that Vin Diesel? That's exactly what I was thinking. | ||
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Gasol turning it up. | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:30 Fleuria wrote: It seems like its USA vs Gasol, Gasol so god damn tired Yea because the other Gasol is benched with 4fouls for the longest time. | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:33 seiferoth10 wrote: How in the world did this team lose to Brazil? Because they threw the game in order to get USA in the finals? | ||
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xN.07)MaK
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On August 13 2012 00:33 seiferoth10 wrote: How in the world did this team lose to Brazil? There were gains to it. | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:37 AntiGrav1ty wrote: Does Ibaka even understand what the coach says??? :D Yes he does. | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:43 Itsmedudeman wrote: spains guards playing like crap navarro got 19 points in first half ^^ Durant is just a wonderful bball player. | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:53 Arceus wrote: holy shit LeBron is there where you need him As a cleveland fan ;p... j/k it's "Go US" here. | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:54 xN.07)MaK wrote: Dream Team 2 (yeah, right) should not need these helps to win to a far inferior team. Shame. Zone defense, no big men, etc | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:54 xN.07)MaK wrote: Dream Team 2 (yeah, right) should not need these helps to win to a far inferior team. Shame. huh? go usa!!! | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:54 xN.07)MaK wrote: Dream Team 2 (yeah, right) should not need these helps to win to a far inferior team. Shame. you know that international basketball has increased a ton since '92, right? edit: sorry, didn't realize you are just a butthurt spaniard | ||
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xN.07)MaK
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So cool to see that you cannot be beaten by just pure skill but 'other' things. | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:55 MilesTeg wrote: Sad for Spain, but on the bright side it also means Rudy Fernandez lost. rofl so true.... he's so infuriating. | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:58 xN.07)MaK wrote: So proud of Spain. All guys in the bench playing now. So cool to see that you cannot be beaten by just pure skill but 'other' things. Bias much. | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:58 BlackJack wrote: you know that international basketball has increased a ton since '92, right? The difference in skill between the US and Spain is not 10 points and an even game for 35 minutes. And you know it. I would not be celebrating this, especially after all the debate between the Dream Teams. 92 team would kick the ass of this one, any time any place. | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:54 xN.07)MaK wrote: Dream Team 2 (yeah, right) should not need these helps to win to a far inferior team. Shame. add a bit of Superman and maybe a tsp of DWade, boom, Dream Team 2 anyway this gotta be the lamest team that USA has ever beat | ||
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On August 13 2012 00:58 xN.07)MaK wrote: So proud of Spain. All guys in the bench playing now. So cool to see that you cannot be beaten by just pure skill but 'other' things. is that how you lost to brazil | ||
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On August 13 2012 01:00 xN.07)MaK wrote: The difference in skill between the US and Spain is not 10 points and an even game for 35 minutes. And you know it. I would not be celebrating this, especially after all the debate between the Dream Teams. 92 team would kick the ass of this one, any time any place. im gonna celebrate so fuckin much! at the bar with my countrymen!!! | ||
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On August 13 2012 01:00 xN.07)MaK wrote: The difference in skill between the US and Spain is not 10 points and an even game for 35 minutes. And you know it. I would not be celebrating this, especially after all the debate between the Dream Teams. 92 team would kick the ass of this one, any time any place. The dream team had bigs, thats it. Original dream team would have a hell of a time keeping up with our PG's, lebron, durant, and melo. You think Barkley is going to guard lebron? Or Malone? Lol Original dream team was full of ISO players, id love to see them try that against spain today. | ||
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On August 13 2012 01:02 Dante08 wrote: Wonder if the game would be closer if Rubio was playing If you want all the "If this guy was playing..." Then USA gets Rose, Howard and Wade. | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:02 Sadist wrote: The dream team had bigs, thats it. Original dream team would have a hell of a time keeping up with our PG's, lebron, durant, and melo. You think Barkley is going to guard lebron? Or Malone? Lol Original dream team was full of ISO players, id love to see them try that against spain today. A stomp for sure. One of the best days and couldn't beat an inferior team, no way we could beat that team. | ||
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Sadist
United States7229 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:03 OreoBoi wrote: If you want all the "If this guy was playing..." Then USA gets Rose and Howard. and blake! | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:03 Telcontar wrote: Spain played well, but just couldn't keep up. I'm kind of glad that they lost though, what having thrown a game and flopping around all over the place. exactly. throw a game = you deserve silver medal at best, just the way it should be. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:02 Dante08 wrote: Wonder if the game would be closer if Rubio was playing Except chris bosh, dwayne wade, and dwight howard weren't playing either. The two best big men in the US weren't playing in this olympics. Oh, and rose. | ||
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Malaz
Germany1257 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:02 Dante08 wrote: Wonder if the game would be closer if Rubio was playing For sure it would be, but USA is missing Howard/Bynum/Rose/Wade/Bosh too ^^ | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
Lebron having a insane year... | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:02 Sadist wrote: The dream team had bigs, thats it. Original dream team would have a hell of a time keeping up with our PG's, lebron, durant, and melo. You think Barkley is going to guard lebron? Or Malone? Lol Original dream team was full of ISO players, id love to see them try that against spain today. Are you crazy? MJ would pummel this spanish side all by himself. | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:02 Dante08 wrote: Wonder if the game would be closer if Rubio was playing Definitely. They needed a good distributing guard. USA might not have won. | ||
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Malaz
Germany1257 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:03 seiferoth10 wrote: While I'm glad US won, the real takeaway was that Rudy Fernandez lost. This so much. I'm just a little bit sad for Pau Gasol. | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:04 DamageControL wrote: Definitely. They needed a good distributing guard. USA might not have won. WTF xD | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:03 Telcontar wrote: Spain played well, but just couldn't keep up. I'm kind of glad that they lost though, what having thrown a game and flopping around all over the place. Yep.. I usually root against USA on everything, but in this case Spain deserved a loss | ||
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Sadist
United States7229 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:04 Telcontar wrote: Are you crazy? MJ would pummel this spanish side all by himself. Good luck with that. This is one game, anyone can have an off game. If you are depending on one guy you are in DEEP shit. | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:05 Arceus wrote: whats that song being played in the arena? It has something like "...in the usa" Born in the USA | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:05 Arceus wrote: whats that song being played in the arena? It has something like "...in the usa" Born in the USA. Funnily enough if you read the lyrics it's shit talking the US. Everyone thinks it's a patriotic song but it's not. | ||
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:02 Dante08 wrote: Wonder if the game would be closer if Rubio was playing Rubio typically plays behind Calderon, Sada, Navarro, Llull... he doesnt get much playing time in this team. Would have been an upgrade over Rodriguez though. | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
You don't think Rubio would have made a difference? USA was missing players two obv. | ||
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gape.ninja
Japan249 Posts
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:05 Sadist wrote: Good luck with that. This is one game, anyone can have an off game. If you are depending on one guy you are in DEEP shit. Pretty sure the guy is right. Mb not like that, but MJ + team game would mean 30+ difference. This US team has no team game, just 3/4 incredible players that score from any point in the court, especially KD. When you have 40%+ in 3throws, then you stomp. When not, then it could be even. That didn't happen with the Dream Team, with better bigs and still having these kind of players. | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:06 Itsmedudeman wrote: Born in the USA. Funnily enough if you read the lyrics it's shit talking the US. Everyone thinks it's a patriotic song but it's not. Its not shit-talking the usa, its shittalking the vietnam war.... | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:08 DamageControL wrote: You don't think Rubio would have made a difference? USA was missing players two obv. No, no difference. Rodriguez and Calderon did a pretty good job, trust me. | ||
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:05 Arceus wrote: whats that song being played in the arena? It has something like "...in the usa" BRON in the USA | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
Bro in the USA | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
GG Spain. Pau I love you. | ||
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Sadist
United States7229 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:09 xN.07)MaK wrote: Pretty sure the guy is right. Mb not like that, but MJ + team game would mean 30+ difference. This US team has no team game, just 3/4 incredible players that score from any point in the court, especially KD. When you have 40%+ in 3throws, then you stomp. When not, then it could be even. That didn't happen with the Dream Team, with better bigs and still having these kind of players. You think the original dream team had a team game? Are you on drugs? This team has played together for way longer than the 92 team did. The NBA today is far more like international basketball than it was in 92. The NBA in the 90's was predominately ISO play. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:09 xN.07)MaK wrote: Pretty sure the guy is right. Mb not like that, but MJ + team game would mean 30+ difference. This US team has no team game, just 3/4 incredible players that score from any point in the court, especially KD. When you have 40%+ in 3throws, then you stomp. When not, then it could be even. That didn't happen with the Dream Team, with better bigs and still having these kind of players. ?? I'm just arguing against this guy saying the dream team would've had a hard time against this spanish side with ISO play. That's ridiculous. Even if MJ was off his game, you had other superstars to step up. No way they all go 'off' at the same night. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:03 OreoBoi wrote: If you want all the "If this guy was playing..." Then USA gets Rose, Howard and Wade. Obviously US would still win, the whole team is full of stars, just wondering. | ||
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seiferoth10
3362 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:12 DannyJ wrote: If the Dream Team played this Spain team Charles Barkley would have physically assaulted Rudy. I would pay to see that. | ||
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tyr
France1686 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:09 stratmatt wrote: Its not shit-talking the usa, its shittalking the vietnam war.... ? Maybe not US culture, but it's definitely shittalking the US whether it be government or just generally the fact that they had to fight a war for their country that they didn't believe in. Otherwise it wouldn't have had "born in the USA" for lyrics... | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:14 Itsmedudeman wrote: ? Maybe not US culture, but it's definitely shittalking the US whether it be government or just generally the fact that they had to fight a war for their country that they didn't believe in. Otherwise it wouldn't have had "born in the USA" for lyrics... Yes it is protesting the us involvement in vietnam, a decision made by the government, not the people. | ||
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dizzieX
Spain5 Posts
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:12 DannyJ wrote: If the Dream Team played this Spain team Charles Barkley would have physically assaulted Rudy. You made me spill my drink. :D | ||
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Sadist
United States7229 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:15 xN.07)MaK wrote: I wonder why everyone hates on Fernandez, but no one mentions the finger in the eye (ala Mourinho vs Vilanova) from LJ to Gasol. Not the slightest apologize, that's a superstar. If you cant see the difference, I dont know what to say to you. | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:16 stratmatt wrote: Yes it is protesting the us involvement in vietnam, a decision made by the government, not the people. We get that, but the 'born in the USA' is more like towards the society in general. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:15 xN.07)MaK wrote: I wonder why everyone hates on Fernandez, but no one mentions the finger in the eye (ala Mourinho vs Vilanova) from LJ to Gasol. Not the slightest apologize, that's a superstar. By accident/On purpose. There's a difference. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
I remember barkley saying "I went out with the intent to kill anyone who got in my way. If they can take 6 of those then they're a better man than me." | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:18 Sadist wrote: If you cant see the difference, I dont know what to say to you. Don't get me wrong, I don't like him either. But it's not like US players piss gold and the rest are shit. They have their own things, but no one wants to see it. | ||
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gape.ninja
Japan249 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:15 xN.07)MaK wrote: I wonder why everyone hates on Fernandez, but no one mentions the finger in the eye (ala Mourinho vs Vilanova) from LJ to Gasol. Not the slightest apologize, that's a superstar. there's a diff between an accidental eye poke when someone was swiping to a ball and ruby flopping like a fish out of water, though bron's had some epic flops last playoffs | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:19 r00ty wrote: By accident/On purpose. There's a difference. Even by accident, I expect an apologize. No? | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:18 xN.07)MaK wrote: We get that, but the 'born in the USA' is more like towards the society in general. Yeah in the context of this basketball game, 'born in the usa' means our players are fucking sick good at basketball | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:20 xN.07)MaK wrote: Even by accident, I expect an apologize. No? You think people don't like Rudy cause he's mean or something? | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:20 xN.07)MaK wrote: Even by accident, I expect an apologize. No? Not during the course of play. You're not there to be friendly and nice to a team that's trying to take the gold medal from you. | ||
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gape.ninja
Japan249 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:20 xN.07)MaK wrote: Even by accident, I expect an apologize. No? no ![[image loading]](http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1290171/rudyguile.gif) | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:21 stratmatt wrote: Yeah in the context of this basketball game, 'born in the usa' means our players are fucking sick good at basketball | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Tivu
United States244 Posts
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:22 TwoToneTerran wrote: Not during the course of play. You're not there to be friendly and nice to a team that's trying to take the gold medal from you. You can be tough, play to the limit, apologize when you hurt someone while the timer is stopped, and then keep playing. But don't worry, it seems this is only what I was taught :/. Don't know why use Fernandez to justify this, Gasol is not suspicious of being a bad sportsman. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:24 xN.07)MaK wrote: You can be tough, play to the limit, apologize when you hurt someone while the timer is stopped, and then keep playing. But don't worry, it seems this is only what I was taught :/. Don't know why use Fernandez to justify this, Gasol is not suspicious of being a bad sportsman. ^ You obviously don't watch much basketball. Gasol would not have apologized either. | ||
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Majynx
United States1431 Posts
That is utterly hilarious. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
Iguodala should have been The Beard, then you could shop a Chuck Norris style chinfist into this. Laser beams out of Andres eyes would also work. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:24 xN.07)MaK wrote: You can be tough, play to the limit, apologize when you hurt someone while the timer is stopped, and then keep playing. But don't worry, it seems this is only what I was taught :/. Don't know why use Fernandez to justify this, Gasol is not suspicious of being a bad sportsman. You have never been in an amazingly intense high pressure situation. Apologies are nothing but a distraction when you're really focused on trying to not get upset AGAIN. | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:25 DannyJ wrote: ^ You obviously don't watch much basketball. Gasol would not have apologized either. I might follow more leagues than you, maybe | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:24 xN.07)MaK wrote: You can be tough, play to the limit, apologize when you hurt someone while the timer is stopped, and then keep playing. But don't worry, it seems this is only what I was taught :/. Don't know why use Fernandez to justify this, Gasol is not suspicious of being a bad sportsman. I still don't know why you are being surprised by everyone hating on Fernandez. What LBJ did was unintentionnal, and it happens quite regularly, and its not a big deal at all. Fernandez however is a blatant flopper. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:27 xN.07)MaK wrote: I might follow more leagues than you, maybe He's right, though. No one apologies on court until after the game is over. And in this case there was a big celebration following the game where the teams split up and get their medals. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:27 Roggay wrote: I still don't know why you are being surprised by everyone hating on Fernandez. What LBJ did was unintentionnal, and it happens quite regularly, and its not a big deal at all. Fernandez however is a blatant flopper. I said before I don't like him, I'm not surprised at all. But I don't like this "these are good, these are bad" arguments. You have bad behaviours from both, not just that one I mentioned from LBJ, but that goes unnoticed in such a forum | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:29 xN.07)MaK wrote: I said before I don't like him, I'm not surprised at all. But I don't like this "these are good, these are bad" arguments. You have bad behaviours from both, not just that one I mentioned from LBJ, but that goes unnoticed in such a forum As many noted, its not a bad behaviour. When you are focused on a tense, competitive match, you don't always apologize for everything. | ||
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
After he told me about this stuff I've looked differently at those replays of one guy stepping with crampons on another dude that's down, even if it looks like he couldn't avoid it. | ||
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ApoNow
Luxembourg100 Posts
On August 13 2012 01:40 dakalro wrote: If you think most of the pokes/hits/pushes/hits/punches/stumbles/run overs are by accident ... Don't tear things out of context, it's clear that the actual poke was not intentional. That being said, it still was quite a physical game on both ends of the floor, which I'm fine with, it was a game for gold after all. What I'm not fine with is how Spain threw its game agains Brazil. I'm not buying the arguments of a bad day for Spain, it was pretty clear to me that they couldn't care less about winning. And Rudy Fernandez is an absolute disgrace to this sport. He's done his flopping acts again and again and again. I hate it when football players do it (and they do it all the time) and I hate the idea that it now might catch up to the sport I care really care about. I wouldn't even care that much if it happened in an NBA game, but on the olympic stage, where you compete for pride and glory and not necessarily for money? Utterly disgusting... I usually root against the U.S. team because I like it when an underdog steals the show. But this time, I was rooting against Spain out of disgust. | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
On August 13 2012 03:15 ApoNow wrote: I usually root against the U.S. team because I like it when an underdog steals the show. But this time, I was rooting against Spain out of disgust. At least spain is usually on the side that receives the harsh and rough play, and not the ones poking eyes, punching guts and forklifting people. Rooting against the best national team outside US of the last 10 years because of 1 player says nothing good, when you chose to root for a team that has a few buncer and gorilla antics "Im a god suck my dick" attitude guys. And n the people calling out Rudy, if you could get your US bias lenses from the eyes, you would have seen he was not the only one, Paul has more than a few times where he exagerated every touch. But what enrages me is that we are discussing about this and that and not mentioning that this was a hell of a game, up there with the Pekin 2008 finals. Both teams played their hearts out and was a huge show to watch. Im glad I could watch the game and pay attention to every bit of it. P.S: Please, make Durant play blidndfolded,. otherwise it is not fair! | ||
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ApoNow
Luxembourg100 Posts
On August 13 2012 04:42 Usagi wrote: Rooting against the best national team outside US of the last 10 years because of 1 player says nothing good It wasn't 1 player who decided to throw the game against Brazil, now was it? Luckily for your team, it isn't as obvious in Basketball if you're throwing a game as it is in other sports *cough* Badminton *cough*. On August 13 2012 04:42 Usagi wrote: [...] when you chose to root for a team that has a few buncer and gorilla antics "Im a god suck my dick" attitude guys. [...] if you could get your US bias lenses from the eyes, you would have seen he was not the only one, Paul has more than a few times where he exagerated every touch. [...] I think it's pretty clear who's the one being biased here, which is fine, you're from Spain after all. But don't call others out on it, especially if they just stated that they would have rooted AGAINST Team USA, if Spain hadn't made it so ridiculously easy to root against them in these olympic games. And it wasn't about exaggerating, which happens all the time. It was blatant flopping without even the tiniest bit of contact. And I'm clearly not only speaking about this game alone. But you're right, except for the second quarter, that last game was really fun to watch and competetive to the teeth. Still, I hate it when my favorite sport is tarnished in pathetic ways, which sadly was the case the last few days. | ||
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ecstatica
United States542 Posts
On August 13 2012 00:45 MilesTeg wrote: Swap the coaches and Spain wins. Scariolo is seriously retarded. No wonder they have underperformed ever since he took over. Lmao you never fail to deliver. It doesn't matter who the coach is, floor gets wiped with Spain either way | ||
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nohbrows
United States653 Posts
It was nice watching more basketball to fill in the time during the off season. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
On August 13 2012 05:33 ecstatica wrote: Lmao you never fail to deliver. It doesn't matter who the coach is, floor gets wiped with Spain either way One of us knows what he's talking about, the other doesn't | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On August 13 2012 09:12 MilesTeg wrote: One of us knows what he's talking about, the other doesn't Swapping coaches would make a difference, but as you can probably tell there's very little in the way of specifically set-up plays or detailed adjustments. It's mostly the players making their own calls, playing on instinct, using NBA experience to figure out how to compensate. Coach K is no doubt much better than Scariolo, but to say that swapping the two would change the outcome of the game? You have some of the most intelligent basketball players in the world playing on the US squad, I think they know what calls to make. | ||
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ApoNow
Luxembourg100 Posts
On August 13 2012 09:12 MilesTeg wrote: One of us knows what he's talking about, the other doesn't And we all know who the one is that doesn't know what he's talking about | ||
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
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Malaz
Germany1257 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
Spain, especially Rudy, really pissed me off that game yesterday, though. I can understand why the French lost their temper and wanted to give him a real foul during the semifinals. The amount of flopping was disgraceful. I thought NBA refs are gullible but international ones are worse. | ||
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