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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-13 15:51:20
October 13 2021 15:50 GMT
#141
Xmithie?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 13 2021 16:54 GMT
#142
I've been really happy with how Khan has played this worlds so far
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 13 2021 17:00 GMT
#143
I was just thinking the same thing about the bot lane. No brother Beryl moments, they've looked much better than expected
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
October 13 2021 17:03 GMT
#144
I'm actually glad that the broadcasting hours are bad for European viewers. When I come home after work, I can fast forward instead of suffering in real time.
You're now breathing manually
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 13 2021 17:37 GMT
#145
I will not get excited by DFM. I will not get excited by DFM. I will not get excited by DFM. I will not get excited by DFM. I will not get excited by DFM. I will not get excited by DFM. I will not get excited by DFM.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 13 2021 17:39 GMT
#146
I'm glad Phreak actually pointed out the imports in DFM. There's a huge difference between NA importing known quantities, and DFM scouting players that have potential, even if both are counted the same
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9121 Posts
October 13 2021 18:45 GMT
#147
This game looks no different than T1 vs DFM, 0-6 day for the west achieved
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 13 2021 18:54 GMT
#148
On October 13 2021 21:43 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Carzzy forgot how to count and threw the game to ult a thresh that was still stopwatched


Huhi forgot too and bubbled a ward
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 13 2021 19:23 GMT
#149
So FNC and RGE are pretty much out of the tournament, unless RGE magically goes 3-0 or FNC gets a magical tie breaker. MAD still has a chance, they also need to basically go 3-0 or hope that TL pulls off an upset. It's a similar situation for NA, C9 and 100T are pretty done unless they get super lucky, TL is in the same spot as MAD.

What a depressing tournament for the West lol, hope next year is better. It's not even the scoreline, the quality of the team's is just so bad this time. We need G2 back.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
October 13 2021 20:23 GMT
#150
On October 14 2021 02:39 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I'm glad Phreak actually pointed out the imports in DFM. There's a huge difference between NA importing known quantities, and DFM scouting players that have potential, even if both are counted the same

Being in Japan sure helps with that. lol
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 13 2021 20:54 GMT
#151
On October 14 2021 05:23 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2021 02:39 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I'm glad Phreak actually pointed out the imports in DFM. There's a huge difference between NA importing known quantities, and DFM scouting players that have potential, even if both are counted the same

Being in Japan sure helps with that. lol


Unless I'm mistaken neither Aria, Gaeng or Steal are Japanese nor have any played competitively in Korea. Which was his point. There's an enormous difference between NA importing Alphari, Huni, Ssumday, CoreJJ, etc and LJL teams finding literal who's on the Korean ladder and signing them. One is the right way to scout talent and foster growth and success and the other is not
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
October 13 2021 21:42 GMT
#152
On October 14 2021 05:54 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2021 05:23 Gahlo wrote:
On October 14 2021 02:39 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I'm glad Phreak actually pointed out the imports in DFM. There's a huge difference between NA importing known quantities, and DFM scouting players that have potential, even if both are counted the same

Being in Japan sure helps with that. lol


Unless I'm mistaken neither Aria, Gaeng or Steal are Japanese nor have any played competitively in Korea. Which was his point. There's an enormous difference between NA importing Alphari, Huni, Ssumday, CoreJJ, etc and LJL teams finding literal who's on the Korean ladder and signing them. One is the right way to scout talent and foster growth and success and the other is not

And the org having regular access to Korean soloq is impactful in the ability to do so. Japanese orgs have the benefit of scouting their native players and potential imports in the same ecosystem while NA orgs don't.

Granted, I don't know the who's who of the English speaking world in League, but what talent scouts are there that can speak fluently with an org that has the finger on the pulse of Korean soloq outside of somebody like LS(as questionable as he can be)?
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 14 2021 00:02 GMT
#153
On October 14 2021 06:42 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2021 05:54 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On October 14 2021 05:23 Gahlo wrote:
On October 14 2021 02:39 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I'm glad Phreak actually pointed out the imports in DFM. There's a huge difference between NA importing known quantities, and DFM scouting players that have potential, even if both are counted the same

Being in Japan sure helps with that. lol


Unless I'm mistaken neither Aria, Gaeng or Steal are Japanese nor have any played competitively in Korea. Which was his point. There's an enormous difference between NA importing Alphari, Huni, Ssumday, CoreJJ, etc and LJL teams finding literal who's on the Korean ladder and signing them. One is the right way to scout talent and foster growth and success and the other is not

And the org having regular access to Korean soloq is impactful in the ability to do so. Japanese orgs have the benefit of scouting their native players and potential imports in the same ecosystem while NA orgs don't.

Granted, I don't know the who's who of the English speaking world in League, but what talent scouts are there that can speak fluently with an org that has the finger on the pulse of Korean soloq outside of somebody like LS(as questionable as he can be)?


If you don't have someone with access you hire someone. They're multimillion dollar organizations, hire a team whos literal job it is to watch solo Q/academy/amateur leagues/EUM year round. You could skip the entire 'fresh' (from soloQ) scouting process and just exclusively go to the academy and amateur leagues and find already scouted talents and watch them yourself as an org. Hell the super easy way is you just watch LDL from this year and take any player in the league, 99% chance they got axed from their org because of Chinese law.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
October 14 2021 00:11 GMT
#154
On October 14 2021 06:42 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2021 05:54 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On October 14 2021 05:23 Gahlo wrote:
On October 14 2021 02:39 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I'm glad Phreak actually pointed out the imports in DFM. There's a huge difference between NA importing known quantities, and DFM scouting players that have potential, even if both are counted the same

Being in Japan sure helps with that. lol


Unless I'm mistaken neither Aria, Gaeng or Steal are Japanese nor have any played competitively in Korea. Which was his point. There's an enormous difference between NA importing Alphari, Huni, Ssumday, CoreJJ, etc and LJL teams finding literal who's on the Korean ladder and signing them. One is the right way to scout talent and foster growth and success and the other is not

And the org having regular access to Korean soloq is impactful in the ability to do so. Japanese orgs have the benefit of scouting their native players and potential imports in the same ecosystem while NA orgs don't.

Granted, I don't know the who's who of the English speaking world in League, but what talent scouts are there that can speak fluently with an org that has the finger on the pulse of Korean soloq outside of somebody like LS(as questionable as he can be)?


There used to be an organisation whose entire role was to pick up SoloQ talent, put them in a team house and liaise their meetings with Western organisations. No idea if that org still exists but I'm told the conditions were uhhhh not very good.
Que Sera Sera
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 15 2021 11:45 GMT
#155
Wtf, DK destroyed FPX. Nuguri didn't even get to play the game, granted he intend a bit but DK made sure he stayed a minion. DK won draft and won mental.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
October 15 2021 11:52 GMT
#156
On October 15 2021 20:45 DarkCore wrote:
Wtf, DK destroyed FPX. Nuguri didn't even get to play the game, granted he intend a bit but DK made sure he stayed a minion. DK won draft and won mental.


Doinb going for the Dade award.
Que Sera Sera
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-15 12:25:44
October 15 2021 12:22 GMT
#157
On the one hand, I'm glad to finally see C9 show up. On the other, they stand 0 chance of making it through without Rogue beating both FPX and C9 beating FPX and/or Damwon, so them winning now effectively eliminates both Rogue and C9 in one go
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
October 15 2021 12:38 GMT
#158
Rogue running it down at level 1 to lose their chance at worlds. What a team.
Que Sera Sera
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-15 12:40:17
October 15 2021 12:39 GMT
#159
It's hard to quantify FPX, because DK is looking like best team in the world again, meanwhile RGE and C9 are 3rd seeds from EU/NA. So how good is FPX reallly? FPX and RGE look mentally tilted asf today.

Imo this C9 win was better quality than the first match RGE won. Hoping this group can at least eek out one closish game, maybe FPX vs C9?
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 15 2021 12:48 GMT
#160
This group would be even more interesting if Perkz hadn't sprinted it against FPX in game 1. Hopefully they'll keep their form up
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