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lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
April 07 2019 20:00 GMT
#621
On April 08 2019 04:59 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:57 lilwisper wrote:
Just as a thought, since the healing and shielding is so strong in a Taric/Sona game, using TL's comp as the example, shouldn't the enemy team use Soraka or Nami to match? I'd slightly edge it to Nami since you won't loose engage with her.


I was thinking giving the edge to Raka, Actually does Raka silence stop Taric stun in the same way it stops Pyke Q?


Pretty tight window but I think it does.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 20:10:36
April 07 2019 20:06 GMT
#622
The only thing that can counter Sona /Taric has to be something involving team play because solo q has been trying to figure it out for a while and nothing has become obvious yet

Also people are focusing way too hard on the dual support thing, it’s what makes them strong in lane but Sona is building damage, her dps late is good, she is enabling herself, soraka cannot do this.
Carrilord has arrived.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
April 07 2019 20:10 GMT
#623
On April 08 2019 05:06 Slusher wrote:
The only thing that can counter Sona /Taric has to be something involving team play because solo q has been trying to figure it out for a while and nothing has become obvious yet


Is there any way to see how many Nami or Soraka games have gone against it?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 20:37:50
April 07 2019 20:13 GMT
#624
Are you talking about core Soraka? Her late game is fine but her item scaling is not good.

There’s 3 big reasons this is strong
1) support item abuse
2)a winning Taric lane is actually broken in general
3) Sona is one of the best item scaling champions in the game

Btw I’m not saying they are op as in 60%+ win rate, I’m saying you can’t stop them from executing their game plan

1)out golding your bot lane
2)Securing their team has the better team fight (compositionally)
3)blacking out your mini map
Carrilord has arrived.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 07 2019 20:33 GMT
#625
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 07 2019 20:34 GMT
#626
On April 08 2019 04:57 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:48 Redox wrote:
Good game but seems like FQ totally botched it in the end.

And its pretty boring that it is always the predicted teams winning in NA and EU. Although it shows that success is not random in League.

Am I misremembering yesterday?
Strict striation is a sign of a lopsided league. A too even league shows overall weakness.

TSM vs C9 was 2 pretty even teams and ended in a really even series. I bet on TSM btw.
TSM is one of those big teams that are there every year, exactly what I was alluding to.

Also I dont see at all how an even League shows weakness. The weaker leagues are also pretty lop sided in general and not even at all.
For the comparison between leagues at worlds only the top 3 are used, but if 4-10 are the same strength as the top 3 I would define that as a stronger League than one where 4-10 are far behind.
Off-season = best season
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
April 07 2019 20:35 GMT
#627
Impact was great this game. Very strong game from all of TL but Impact has been pretty good so far.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
April 07 2019 20:39 GMT
#628
On April 08 2019 05:34 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:57 Gahlo wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:48 Redox wrote:
Good game but seems like FQ totally botched it in the end.

And its pretty boring that it is always the predicted teams winning in NA and EU. Although it shows that success is not random in League.

Am I misremembering yesterday?
Strict striation is a sign of a lopsided league. A too even league shows overall weakness.

TSM vs C9 was 2 pretty even teams and ended in a really even series. I bet on TSM btw.
TSM is one of those big teams that are there every year, exactly what I was alluding to.

Also I dont see at all how an even League shows weakness. The weaker leagues are also pretty lop sided in general and not even at all.
For the comparison between leagues at worlds only the top 3 are used, but if 4-10 are the same strength as the top 3 I would define that as a stronger League than one where 4-10 are far behind.

If all the teams are good, none of them are.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 21:17:18
April 07 2019 20:51 GMT
#629
On April 08 2019 05:34 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:57 Gahlo wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:48 Redox wrote:
Good game but seems like FQ totally botched it in the end.

And its pretty boring that it is always the predicted teams winning in NA and EU. Although it shows that success is not random in League.

Am I misremembering yesterday?
Strict striation is a sign of a lopsided league. A too even league shows overall weakness.

TSM vs C9 was 2 pretty even teams and ended in a really even series. I bet on TSM btw.
TSM is one of those big teams that are there every year, exactly what I was alluding to.

Also I dont see at all how an even League shows weakness. The weaker leagues are also pretty lop sided in general and not even at all.
For the comparison between leagues at worlds only the top 3 are used, but if 4-10 are the same strength as the top 3 I would define that as a stronger League than one where 4-10 are far behind.

except last year

TL vs FlyQ gonnabe like SKT vs KZ last night.
+ Show Spoiler +
Close first game, not so close second game and then TL(SKT) completely smashes FlyQ(KZ) in game 3
Faker is the GOAT!
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 20:52:00
April 07 2019 20:51 GMT
#630
Let's go take it home TL
Faker is the GOAT!
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
April 07 2019 20:55 GMT
#631
Didn't they smash tank Victor in one of the patches? Interesting pickup if he's just playing the lane counter.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 07 2019 21:22 GMT
#632
On April 08 2019 05:51 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 05:34 Redox wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:57 Gahlo wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:48 Redox wrote:
Good game but seems like FQ totally botched it in the end.

And its pretty boring that it is always the predicted teams winning in NA and EU. Although it shows that success is not random in League.

Am I misremembering yesterday?
Strict striation is a sign of a lopsided league. A too even league shows overall weakness.

TSM vs C9 was 2 pretty even teams and ended in a really even series. I bet on TSM btw.
TSM is one of those big teams that are there every year, exactly what I was alluding to.

Also I dont see at all how an even League shows weakness. The weaker leagues are also pretty lop sided in general and not even at all.
For the comparison between leagues at worlds only the top 3 are used, but if 4-10 are the same strength as the top 3 I would define that as a stronger League than one where 4-10 are far behind.

except last year

TL vs FlyQ gonnabe like SKT vs KZ last night.
+ Show Spoiler +
Close first game, not so close second game and then TL(SKT) completely smashes FlyQ(KZ) in game 3

Also G2 vs Origen was the same.
Off-season = best season
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 21:28:47
April 07 2019 21:28 GMT
#633
On April 08 2019 06:22 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 05:51 AzAlexZ wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:34 Redox wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:57 Gahlo wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:48 Redox wrote:
Good game but seems like FQ totally botched it in the end.

And its pretty boring that it is always the predicted teams winning in NA and EU. Although it shows that success is not random in League.

Am I misremembering yesterday?
Strict striation is a sign of a lopsided league. A too even league shows overall weakness.

TSM vs C9 was 2 pretty even teams and ended in a really even series. I bet on TSM btw.
TSM is one of those big teams that are there every year, exactly what I was alluding to.

Also I dont see at all how an even League shows weakness. The weaker leagues are also pretty lop sided in general and not even at all.
For the comparison between leagues at worlds only the top 3 are used, but if 4-10 are the same strength as the top 3 I would define that as a stronger League than one where 4-10 are far behind.

except last year

TL vs FlyQ gonnabe like SKT vs KZ last night.
+ Show Spoiler +
Close first game, not so close second game and then TL(SKT) completely smashes FlyQ(KZ) in game 3

Also G2 vs Origen was the same.

TL vs TSM
G2 vs FNC/OG
SKT vs GRF
3 hype matches
Faker is the GOAT!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
April 07 2019 21:29 GMT
#634
TSM, Fnatic, SKT imo. Could definitely change to G2 if Fnatic struggles.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 07 2019 21:30 GMT
#635
hmm what a surprise, come playoff TL look like the clear #1 again
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
April 07 2019 21:36 GMT
#636
On April 08 2019 06:30 starkiller123 wrote:
hmm what a surprise, come playoff TL look like the clear #1 again

I dunno about that.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 07 2019 21:39 GMT
#637
On April 08 2019 06:36 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 06:30 starkiller123 wrote:
hmm what a surprise, come playoff TL look like the clear #1 again

I dunno about that.

TL is 18-2 in play off games since last season. Have to be clear favorites.
Would not mind a surpise, even though it is TSM.
Off-season = best season
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
April 07 2019 21:39 GMT
#638
TSM can make it interesting for sure.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 21:52:47
April 07 2019 21:52 GMT
#639
Regular split:
C9 2-0 TSM, TSM 2-0 TL, TL 2-0 C9
if Playoffs:
TSM 3-2 C9 and breaks the curse
then Finals should be:
TL 3-2 TSM since it's only fair for TL to win since TSM broke the curse, they get the curse rebounded on themselves
Faker is the GOAT!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 21:57:40
April 07 2019 21:56 GMT
#640
I don’t think beating a team outside of the top 3 says anything about your strength vs the top 3 with regards to NA this season. So I don’t think 3-0 vs 3-2 in the semis says anything about the finals.
Carrilord has arrived.
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