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On October 07 2018 15:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2018 15:45 starkiller123 wrote:
G2's botlane also played pretty well this game I think Wadid has, where as Kai'sa has just been broken enough that Hjarnan looks alright, he hasn't really done anything I love love love love this Taric pick
honestly i can't believe how often Kai'sa is left up, it just seems so incredibly good. Yeah idk about this draft, anyone know how the Ryze Urgot matchup? I don't hate G2's draft as it dosent seem they can out teamfight Infinity so might as well go hard early game and try to 1-3-1, kinda disagree with Vedius shitting on G2's draft
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Honestly that Heimer ban should have been Kai'sa after game 1, and INF should have taken Urgot instead of Aatrox in the draft as well. If INF lose here, or a game 5 they should be kicking themselves for giving away a series they should have had
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On October 07 2018 15:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Honestly that Heimer ban should have been Kai'sa after game 1, and INF should have taken Urgot instead of Aatrox in the draft as well. If INF lose here, or a game 5 they should be kicking themselves for giving away a series they should have had
god Kai'sa is such a dumb champion right now, they really should've nerfed it into the ground
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The real problem for INF is going to come from G2 having side selection in Game 5, basically denying them the Urgot pick.
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Man, and I seriously thought that these 3rd seeds for NA and EU were better than their 2nd seed counterparts. How are the 2nd seeds going to go then...
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That was heartwrenching, a couple of different choices and that was a 3-1 INF
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Maybe the playins teams are just better than korea and china.
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Hjarnan had a pretty awesome game, really played well with the crazy speed Jihn gets to abuse the lack of armor and his crazy cs lead
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Kai'sa is so broken in lategame... She's like Juggermaw except she dont need the double supports to do it.
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Ok, Supermassive mental just went atomic boom.
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I just now woke up. Any games worth watching from today?
Any team favoured based on the first 2 SUP-GRX games?
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On October 07 2018 18:30 Jek wrote:
Kai'sa is so broken in lategame... She's like Juggermaw except she dont need the double supports to do it.
Yeah, I think the lategame scaling on her is just nuts. Juggermaw without the immobility or abusable lane phase.
I'd expect kaisa to get close to permaban, because as teams get better and rely more and more on mid-lategame fights, she is just the strongest carry.
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On October 07 2018 19:35 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2018 18:30 Jek wrote:
Kai'sa is so broken in lategame... She's like Juggermaw except she dont need the double supports to do it. Yeah, I think the lategame scaling on her is just nuts. Juggermaw without the immobility or abusable lane phase. I'd expect kaisa to get close to permaban, because as teams get better and rely more and more on mid-lategame fights, she is just the strongest carry.
I also don't understand the teams decision not to ban her. Before today's games she's been the most pickd ADC in the play in and she won a lot. I also suspect (I don't have the stats to confirm) that she's been picked quite early in drafts but that it didn't matter much in the end.
We don't know the scrim results with Kaisa. Maybe the strongest teams have found a way to address her and she's similar to Darius three years ago. If that's the case I wonder what the plan is.
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Think its teams once again stubbornly buying into their carefully prepared ban strategies. Like you don't want Xayah-Rakan together, so teams may ban one of them if they see the other, instead of considering the fact that Kai'Sa is still open and synergy isn't as important as just being straight busted. That or as you mentioned, teams think they have a solution to her, and we just haven't seen the current teams demonstrate it.
On a side note, I think Urgot top is way more broken than Kai'Sa, feels like a ranged Darius in that he will win lane if left alone, and his supposed weak team fighting does not offset the advantage he gets in lane enough.
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On October 07 2018 20:53 DarkCore wrote:
On a side note, I think Urgot top is way more broken than Kai'Sa, feels like a ranged Darius in that he will win lane if left alone, and his supposed weak team fighting does not offset the advantage he gets in lane enough.
I don't play top so this is harder for me to judge. At the very least it's a different issue than Kaisa. Kaisa's late is way too strong but her early is fine. Her early may be too good for how strong her late is, but she's definitely not a lane bully. Urgot on the other hand is super strong in lane but scales ok later. If some of the top teams are confident sending ornn or sion against him without losing too much in lane then you're fine.
Right now the only answer to kaisa I can think of is to pick twitch and fight scaling with scaling. Looking at twitch's stats during summer split, he got picked only three times, against kaisa all three (so it seems pros had the same idea) but he lost all games.
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On October 07 2018 19:10 Yorbon wrote:
I just now woke up. Any games worth watching from today?
Any team favoured based on the first 2 SUP-GRX games?
The entire G2 vs INF series was worth watching, but be careful, its a heartbreaker
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Not sure if heartbreaker or mind breaker
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Definitely heartbreaker, Game 3 I had this sinking feeling G2 was going to lose the series.
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Perkz is hard carrying INF. lol
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