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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
October 21 2018 09:24 GMT
#581
EDG got cold feet at the very end, didn't go in with Ray on the TP flank and 6-slot Rekkles just bodied EDG for their cowardice.
nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
October 21 2018 09:45 GMT
#582
I don't understand why Chinese teams put so much priority on Kaisa. Exploitable lane phase and even in lategame it's not nearly as good as old school hypercarries like Kog/Jinx. Just because you like the champion doesn't mean it's a good pick in every situation.

Super volatile pick/ban with tons of squishies on each side. Fnatic are probably favored just based on form and the fact that they probably have better shotcalling.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-21 10:02:32
October 21 2018 10:01 GMT
#583
On October 21 2018 18:45 nineninja9 wrote:
I don't understand why Chinese teams put so much priority on Kaisa. Exploitable lane phase and even in lategame it's not nearly as good as old school hypercarries like Kog/Jinx. Just because you like the champion doesn't mean it's a good pick in every situation.

Super volatile pick/ban with tons of squishies on each side. Fnatic are probably favored just based on form and the fact that they probably have better shotcalling.

Kaisa's early game and lane phase is fine. She can push/farm/trade with Q which is basically free.

She can also itemize a number of different ways and still do a ton of damage. Lategame she's FAR, FAR more survivable than a kog or Jinx, between her E and R, and unlike the both of them, she has upfront burst damage and I don't think the DPS difference is even remotely large.

I would agree it's not worth the priority, but it's not like kaisa is bad in any way.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
October 21 2018 10:05 GMT
#584
Bwipo is a monster on swain.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 21 2018 10:20 GMT
#585
Was never really worried for Fnatic that 4th game. Great stuff.

Off-season = best season
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5090 Posts
October 21 2018 11:00 GMT
#586
Woke up, saw 3-0, then I saw it was C9 who won, then tuned in to see a 2-1 lead for FNC and winning the 4th game.
Which games are worth to watch, or should I just binge all for the Western self masturbatory experience?
Taxes are for Terrans
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 21 2018 11:04 GMT
#587
Idk just looking at quality I would say the C9 games were not that good. Fnatic series game 3 and 4 are good.

But then again worlds is not that often, so I would watch them all. Or at least fast forward through the stomp games.
Off-season = best season
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 21 2018 11:43 GMT
#588
Bleh, guess I can't have both series from today go my way.
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
October 21 2018 12:11 GMT
#589
4/4 predictions easiest bracket of my life.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 21 2018 12:29 GMT
#590
On October 21 2018 20:00 Uldridge wrote:
Woke up, saw 3-0, then I saw it was C9 who won, then tuned in to see a 2-1 lead for FNC and winning the 4th game.
Which games are worth to watch, or should I just binge all for the Western self masturbatory experience?


Didn't watch C9 vs AF G1, but G2 seemed to showcase why AF was inferior, because they got huge leads on that Ryze but still got crushed.

Whole FNC vs EDG series is good, at least from an entertainment perspective.

That said, I would like someone to explain to me how in the world EDG was collecting kills the first 10 minutes, but had only a marginal gold lead. Failure to prioritize real objectives? Bad macro? FNC playing really well? LeBlanc OP (I honestly think she is again)? Bwipo godlike Swain or secret OP? I watched the game so confused as to why it felt like EDG was crushing but still looking like they couldn't possibly win.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5090 Posts
October 21 2018 12:53 GMT
#591
You think GRF would've been a better KR representative?
Taxes are for Terrans
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 21 2018 13:03 GMT
#592
On October 21 2018 21:53 Uldridge wrote:
You think GRF would've been a better KR representative?

Over AFS and Gen.G? Absolutely.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 21 2018 14:07 GMT
#593
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9289 Posts
October 21 2018 14:23 GMT
#594
C9 3:2 Gambit Gambing, C9 3:0 Afreeca Freecs. Gambit better than Afreeca confirmed.

On October 21 2018 23:07 JimmiC wrote:
I agree big time, especially in the playin portion.

Will eu /na get more seeds and korea 3 get stuck in playins after this? Xd


Haha that would be amazing.
You're now breathing manually
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 21 2018 15:59 GMT
#595
What in the actual fuck has been going on this worlds? Only 1 Chinese team left. No Korean or LMS teams left. The “top” teams have honestly looked pretty shit throughout.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-21 16:35:43
October 21 2018 16:35 GMT
#596
LMS isn't a good region. I really feel for Riot when it comes to the LMS, on the one hand Flash Wolves is internationally competitive (to a degree) on the other the rest of the region is terrible. How do you reward Flash Wolves without robbing better teams of slots that they gave to MAD and G-Rex, the obviously worst and second worst team of groups.

Also this iteration of Fnatic is the best since the legendary 2015 roster and they've been a top 4 team all tournament, so I wouldn't say ALL the favorites have been shit
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
October 21 2018 16:44 GMT
#597
god dam im so hype for C9 LETS GO !!!!!
n_n
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
October 21 2018 17:20 GMT
#598
On October 21 2018 21:29 DarkCore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2018 20:00 Uldridge wrote:
Woke up, saw 3-0, then I saw it was C9 who won, then tuned in to see a 2-1 lead for FNC and winning the 4th game.
Which games are worth to watch, or should I just binge all for the Western self masturbatory experience?


Didn't watch C9 vs AF G1, but G2 seemed to showcase why AF was inferior, because they got huge leads on that Ryze but still got crushed.

Whole FNC vs EDG series is good, at least from an entertainment perspective.

That said, I would like someone to explain to me how in the world EDG was collecting kills the first 10 minutes, but had only a marginal gold lead. Failure to prioritize real objectives? Bad macro? FNC playing really well? LeBlanc OP (I honestly think she is again)? Bwipo godlike Swain or secret OP? I watched the game so confused as to why it felt like EDG was crushing but still looking like they couldn't possibly win.

They were investing huge amounts of gold into making the kills happen, without taking turrets from it. In one of the dives I think bwipo just TPS top to catch a wave and push tower. 4 or 5 people for a kill vs. 2 Laners farming isn't actually that mismatched in terms of gold. Add in the fact that the lanes were in fnatics favor, and yeah, they lose out on kills, but the other lanes are accruing big XP and CS advantages to make up for it.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 21 2018 17:53 GMT
#599
Watching the restream there's something that's been bothering me since this morning, what the fuck was up with Afreeca's bans game 3? They banned alistar from C9, when they were the ones who played it games 1 and 2, instead of banning the Braum that C9 actually played
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 21 2018 18:28 GMT
#600
Also this iteration of Fnatic is the best since the legendary 2015 roster and they've been a top 4 team all tournament,


Honestly I think this Fnatic is even better. If you watch Bwipo and Broxah closely, you will see them styling on their opponents pretty hard in terms of mechanics while playing very smart. Reignover didn't have those mechanics, and Huni did not have the same level of game IQ. There is honestly no real weak player on the team, sure Caps is feeding hard sometimes but he can still carry and a lot of it comes down to enemy teams pressuring him quite hard.

They were investing huge amounts of gold into making the kills happen, without taking turrets from it.

Yeah, that was my thought as well. And my question is why EDG thought this was a valid approach to the game, it's like they decided to throw strategy out and thought they could just beat FNC by inducing a blood bath. That works vs low level teams, but not in the quarter finals ffs. Also got to see some braindead CN ADC play again, I loved that one iBoy ult into the enemy team at dragon while having a Braum stack on him. No Jacky moments for him lol.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
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