EPTTrist is stupid good just because she has so much self peel and margin for error. Really great when your ADC is struggling.
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
Trist is stupid good just because she has so much self peel and margin for error. Really great when your ADC is struggling. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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NeoIllusions
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Gahlo
United States35147 Posts
On October 21 2017 11:20 chipmonklord17 wrote: My pleb mind still doesn't understand why Kalista is permabanned. Is it really so much better than say, leaving it open red side so you can try and grab Xayah+Rakan in trade for it? Or Galio+J4? I would assume the magic damage from Censer makes up for some of her rampup on Rend and the AS makes it easier to get to that point. On October 21 2017 11:13 dsyxelic wrote: Kalista > Xayah =? Trist > the rest Trist is stupid good just because she has so much self peel and margin for error. Really great when your ADC is struggling. K>>>T>X>>R | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
EDIT: I mean clearly I'm wrong because it keeps happening, but I just feel like you could draft a few 'trap' drafts where you give them Kalista on blue for something great | ||
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geript
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
-lane priority in every meta matchup. -can kite these tanky engage champs -can enable supports to do some ridiculous playmaking, especially if you pair it with thresh or rakan -objective control. think of how many times smite wars happened or chogath ult single handedly deciding how teams play around baron/dragon. kalista rend > all of these objective finishers in the right hands kalista is just broken at the pro level. | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
Kalista's numbers can be mediocre, but it doesn't matter because her kit is inherently repressive. She has self-peel and team peel. She dumpsters every laner without even trying. You literally can not trade vs her or you're fucked. Play Ardent supports? You're fucked because she gets a free pass to the midgame and dumpsters you. Play engage supports? You're fucked harder because it's difficult to engage on her and IMPOSSIBLE to engage on her support. As a champion, she needs a rework to ever be viable in SoloQ without being busted in competitive. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On October 21 2017 10:53 NeoIllusions wrote: Biggest power pick so far of Worlds? We can look at Groups and the two Quarter games. My vote is Trist. While Censer meta is still dominate at this tournament, Trist really shines on two facets: her late game scaling with her range, allowing her to team fight front to back with relative ease, and second, how well she can take down turrets, despite being a "late game" carry. I've seen good Varus games during LCK this season but no one's stepped up on the champion yet imo. I'm not a fan of Kog/Twitch as much but I suspect the CN ADCs will still lean heavily towards hyper carries. She even made Doublelift look good zz. I know we went over "overrated/underwhelming" picks a few pages back but Faker still looks like a god on Ryze, everyone is babo as fk. Shen amusingly enough does best with aggressive teams, using Stand United offensively than defensively. Trist is very strong right now, but only because a lot of other ADC are being banned out or teams are drafted against. Definitely stronger than Xayah right now, although Mystic's mastery of her suggests otherwise. My pleb mind still doesn't understand why Kalista is permabanned. Is it really so much better than say, leaving it open red side so you can try and grab Xayah+Rakan in trade for it? Or Galio+J4? Because Kalista's entire design is broken, and when the meta allows her to see play she will always be busted. She's like the only champion in the game with a debuff built in with her 90% AA, because Riot want to keep her unique but it's so damn hard to balance her when her kit is bonkers. She's probably the best laning ADC right now (ignoring a solid Draven matchup), because Cait has been nerfed. I've been watching players like Hans and Zven play her on their streams, and when you play her well she will always pull ahead in cs. There are certain matchups which she destroys so hard that you're enemy ADC will be sitting on 40@10 cs if they're lucky. It's very easy to misstep and end up blowing flash/dying to her. Her kill pressure with engage champs like Ali, Taric, Rakan are so high because she can kite you forever if you get locked down. Then there is the level 6 engage, which again forces the opponent to play very careful, if you don't have flash then the moment a jungle gank comes you are dead 100% against the likes of the previously mentioned supports. It's far more reliable CC than Varus or Ashe ult which imo are easier to dodge, and throwing the support makes chaining so much easier/stronger. Her team fighting is also pretty strong, her ability to kite many champs makes them practically garbage against her, and some of those happen to be meta picks. You'd think that her damage falls off in comparison to the likes of Twitch and Kog, but Kalista naturally accrues such huge leads and speeds up the game so much when played properly that she can still out damage them at the 20 minute mark so long as the hypercarry can't sit and AA non stop. Which is another strength: her passive means that she doesn't have to worry about running away without AAing because there's some big bad tank running at her. Then her objective control, imagine Kalista and Cho on the same team, there's no chance you would be able to steal from that. Ardent is pretty dope on her as well, but that applies to all AS based ADC. Overall she's just one of the most busted champs to ever be introduced, and my biggest candidate for a rework. | ||
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Skitter
United States899 Posts
does c9 even have a full set of hands and a whole brain among its 5 members | ||
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iCanada
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
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Skitter
United States899 Posts
On October 21 2017 17:51 iCanada wrote: Jatt and Deficio been so EU biased this game. Gold like even and RNG has sick good team fighting and the better scaling compe, and they all "FNC playing so well, RNG might get upset!" gragas is a scaling jungler XD | ||
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
Fnatic are playing well, but RNG are better. Better teamfighting, better positioning, better rotations. They slip up sometimes, and Fnatic has been good at punishing, but RNG are much better at snowballing the opportunities they get. | ||
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Skitter
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
How do you kill something with 20k+ eHP? Also, I think ocean drakes with soraka is probably one of the most broken things in the game, as it's basically old baron buff. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
The 40s teamfight where no one dies. So much damage in this meta. | ||
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Amui
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