2015 Worlds Group Stage Day 5 (Group A)

739

Bearded Elder29903 Posts

October 06 2015 05:29 GMT

<img class="teamleft" src="http://i.imgur.com/dWDTBa2.png">
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<h4 class="teamnameleft">Counter Logic Gaming</h4>
<h4 class="teamnameright">KOO Tigers</h4>
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12:00 GMT (+00:00)
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Counter Logic Gaming < KOO Tigers

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<h4 class="teamnameleft">Flash Wolves</h4>
<h4 class="teamnameright">paiN Gaming</h4>
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13:00 GMT (+00:00)
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Flash Wolves > paiN Gaming

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<h4 class="teamnameleft"> KOO Tigers</h4>
<h4 class="teamnameright">paiN Gaming</h4>
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14:00 GMT (+00:00)
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KOO Tigers > paiN Gaming

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<h4 class="teamnameleft">Flash Wolves</h4>
<h4 class="teamnameright">Counter Logic Gaming</h4>
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15:00 GMT (+00:00)
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Flash Wolves > Couner Logic Gaming

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<h4 class="teamnameleft"> KOO Tigers</h4>
<h4 class="teamnameright">Flash Wolves</h4>
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16:00 GMT (+00:00)
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KOO Tigers < Flash Wolves

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<h4 class="teamnameleft">paiN Gaming</h4>
<h4 class="teamnameright">Counter Logic Gaming</h4>
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17:00 GMT (+00:00)
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paiN Gaming > Counter Logic Gaming

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739

Bearded Elder29903 Posts

October 06 2015 05:33 GMT

+ Show Spoiler [Counter Logic Gaming VS Koo Tigers] +

Poll: CLG - KOO (WCGAW2G1)

- What a stomp (17)

77%

- Excellent game (3)

14%

- Bad game (2)

9%

- Good game (0)

0%

- Mediocre game (0)

0%

22 total votes

Your vote: CLG - KOO (WCGAW2G1)

(Vote): - Excellent game
(Vote): - Good game
(Vote): - Mediocre game
(Vote): - Bad game
(Vote): - What a stomp

+ Show Spoiler [Flash Wolves VS paiN Gaming] +

Poll: Flash Wolves VS paiN Gaming ?

- Good Game (8)

57%

- Never watch it again (3)

21%

- Bad Game (2)

14%

- Excellent Game (1)

7%

- Boring Game (0)

0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Flash Wolves VS paiN Gaming ?

(Vote): - Excellent Game
(Vote): - Good Game
(Vote): - Bad Game
(Vote): - Boring Game
(Vote): - Never watch it again

+ Show Spoiler [KOO Tigers VS paiN Gaming] +

Poll: KOO Tigers VS paiN Gaming ?

- Excellent Game (2)

67%

- Good Game (1)

33%

- Bad Game (0)

0%

- Boring Game (0)

0%

- Never watch it again (0)

0%

3 total votes

Your vote: KOO Tigers VS paiN Gaming ?

(Vote): - Excellent Game
(Vote): - Good Game
(Vote): - Bad Game
(Vote): - Boring Game
(Vote): - Never watch it again

+ Show Spoiler [Flash Wolves VS Counter Logic Gaming] +

Poll: Flash Wolves VS Counter Logic Gaming ?

- Good Game (3)

75%

- Excellent Game (1)

25%

- Bad Game (0)

0%

- Boring Game (0)

0%

- Never watch it again (0)

0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Flash Wolves VS Counter Logic Gaming ?

(Vote): - Excellent Game
(Vote): - Good Game
(Vote): - Bad Game
(Vote): - Boring Game
(Vote): - Never watch it again

+ Show Spoiler [KOO Tigers VS Flash Wolves] +

Poll: KOO Tigers VS Flash Wolves ?

- Excellent Game (9)

75%

- Good Game (2)

17%

- Bad Game (1)

8%

- Boring Game (0)

0%

- Never watch it again (0)

0%

12 total votes

Your vote: KOO Tigers VS Flash Wolves ?

(Vote): - Excellent Game
(Vote): - Good Game
(Vote): - Bad Game
(Vote): - Boring Game
(Vote): - Never watch it again

+ Show Spoiler [paiN Gaming VS Counter Logic Gaming] +

Poll: paiN Gaming VS Counter Logic Gaming ?

- Excellent Game (15)

79%

- Good Game (2)

11%

- Bad Game (1)

5%

- Never watch it again (1)

5%

- Boring Game (0)

0%

19 total votes

Your vote: paiN Gaming VS Counter Logic Gaming ?

(Vote): - Excellent Game
(Vote): - Good Game
(Vote): - Bad Game
(Vote): - Boring Game
(Vote): - Never watch it again

ketchup

14521 Posts

October 06 2015 05:39 GMT

I'm really curious why this scheduling is done this way. What's so good about having all of a group get their matches out of the way in one day? Is it so that they can prepare for the next part of the World championship with more time? It will be a real gauntlet/challenge for these teams. We might even see a team tilt/crumble during the process. It may be entertaining for the viewers, but it MUST be ridiculously difficult/stressful for the teams/players

gobbledydook

Australia2603 Posts

October 06 2015 05:42 GMT

On October 06 2015 14:39 ketchup wrote:
I'm really curious why this scheduling is done this way. What's so good about having all of a group get their matches out of the way in one day? Is it so that they can prepare for the next part of the World championship with more time? It will be a real gauntlet/challenge for these teams. We might even see a team tilt/crumble during the process. It may be entertaining for the viewers, but it MUST be ridiculously difficult/stressful for the teams/players

Viewership numbers. If they continue the schedule as in the first week, then the later days would contain more meaningless matches and they would get bad viewership.
By doing it group by group, it makes every day exciting.

Apex

United States7227 Posts

October 06 2015 06:22 GMT

On October 06 2015 14:42 gobbledydook wrote:

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It's also so they can organize tiebreakers easier. Lumping all the potential tiebreakers into one last day in the worst case scenario can drag out times to ridiculous lengths, not to mention if there's more than two teams involved in a tiebreaker to boot. Not only that, times to rent venues only go so long so in the worst case scenario, if every group has a tiebreaker, then it's better to have them hosted after each group's respective day instead of all at once in the final day.

Would be a chaotic clusterfuck otherwise.

On another note, I also wouldn't be surprised if in Days 5-8, a complete turnabout from the first days of groups happens and the Chinese teams start dominating again and Origen/C9 suddenly implode. Seems like a possibility just due to the extended time to rebound between the two stages.

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

October 06 2015 07:25 GMT

On October 06 2015 15:22 Apex wrote:

On another note, I also wouldn't be surprised if in Days 5-8, a complete turnabout from the first days of groups happens and the Chinese teams start dominating again and Origen/C9 suddenly implode. Seems like a possibility just due to the extended time to rebound between the two stages.

LGD is essentially out of the tournament. OR nead to beat only TSM to be ahead of them and I don't think KT can go worse than 2-1 the 2nd week. If miracle happens they will be tied to go out of group. The best they can do is scrim with EDG and iG for their benefit.

iG is - on paper - in slightly better spot but I still think they C9 should at worst squeeze through while Fnatic looked stronger so far.

EDG of course will be at least 2nd but their group is fairly clearcut.

It woudl be extremely funny if Fnatic, ahq and iG would finish 2nd round robin with 2-0. That would be 4 way tie 3-3 and tiebreak would be madness.

739

Bearded Elder29903 Posts

October 06 2015 08:24 GMT

Okay dokay, fun prediction time !

Counter Logic Gaming < KOO Tigers
Flash Wolves > paiN Gaming
KOO Tigers > paiN Gaming
Flash Wolves < Counter Logic Gaming
KOO Tigers < Flash Wolves
paiN Gaming < Counter Logic Gaming

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

October 06 2015 09:20 GMT

I kind of expect FW to beat CLG.

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

October 06 2015 10:07 GMT

On October 06 2015 17:24 739 wrote:
Okay dokay, fun prediction time !

Counter Logic Gaming < KOO Tigers
Flash Wolves > paiN Gaming
KOO Tigers > paiN Gaming
Flash Wolves < Counter Logic Gaming
KOO Tigers < Flash Wolves
paiN Gaming < Counter Logic Gaming

That wasn't fun. This will be fun:

CLG < KOO
pain > Flash
KOO > pain
CLG > Flash
KOO > Flash
pain > CLG

This will end up with
1. KOO 5-1
2. pain 3-3
2. CLG 3-3
4. Flash 1-5

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

October 06 2015 15:11 GMT

#10

re: edg sandbagging, that word is pretty loaded and stretches what they did too far.

what they did was not specifically preparing for that game, and not studying their scrims with western teams enough to figure out the laneswap and dragon stuff.

neither constitutes sandbagging in the exaggerated sense the word is often used.

in this light they just were not very prepared, generously this does not indicate one way or another about their later adaptations. but to be sure they did not gain any advantage from losing in this way. what they gained was stuff skt already knew, namely the laneswap and dragon stuff.

as for players twitter responses, entirely fluff.

Wijnruit

Brazil294 Posts

October 06 2015 16:57 GMT

#11

I think all the group B results will repeat themselves, except KOO will win against FW this time, so:

KOO 5-1
CLG 4-2
Pain 2-4
FW 1-5

EsanLOL

479 Posts

October 06 2015 17:14 GMT

#12

I'm wondering if I shouldn't just blindly say the blue side will win, since doing that in Week 1 would have been better than actually trying to predict the outcomes. Blue seems stupidly OP in this tournament with a 66 percent win rate (and that's even with the BKT-SKT/H2K-EDG slaughters bringing the statistic down).

So fuck it, I'm going blue for all potentially close matches:

CLG > KOO

FW > Pain

KOO > Pain

FW < CLG

KOO > FW

Pain < CLG

MooMooMugi

United States10531 Posts

October 06 2015 19:08 GMT

#13

KOO 1st and CLG 2nd seems more likely, but a tie between CLG and FlashWolves would be cool too

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

October 06 2015 19:09 GMT

#14

On October 07 2015 04:08 MooMooMugi wrote:
KOO 1st and CLG 2nd seems more likely, but a tie between CLG and FlashWolves would be cool too

Why wouldn't tie between CLG and Pain or Pain and Flash wolves be cool? I mean Pain Gaming are underdogs who are not out of the tournament yet.

Mensol

14536 Posts

October 06 2015 19:15 GMT

#15

I feel for all pro players who have to practice on EUW server.

Azarkon

United States21060 Posts

October 06 2015 20:04 GMT

#16

According to this: http://www.thescoreesports.com/lol/news/4215, the Chinese teams - besides EDG - are failing because they have bad practice culture, eg Rookie and Kakao were on vacation in Korea before worlds, and I've also heard separately that Imp and Acorn also weren't practicing that much.

But then again it's from a LPL talk person and we all know how they rated China before the tournament.

Mensol

14536 Posts

October 06 2015 20:12 GMT

#17

This tournament pretty much confirms that xPeke is the all time greatest among the greatest three EU mids. The skill ceiling is higher compared to past, and xPeke is still performing on this level.

In other hand, Froggen cant go further than 7th place in LCS, and AlexIch is just back to LCS in NA l o l.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

October 06 2015 20:14 GMT

#18

On October 07 2015 05:12 Mensol wrote:
This tournament pretty much confirms that xPeke is the all time greatest among the greatest three EU mids. The skill ceiling is higher compared to past, and xPeke is still performing on this level.

In other hand, Froggen cant go further than 7th place in LCS, and AlexIch is just back to LCS in NA l o l.

Why are you equating individual performance with team performance? Xpeke is showing up but then bashing Froggen and Alex based on their team placing seems rather dumb.

zer0das

United States8519 Posts

October 06 2015 20:23 GMT

#19

On October 07 2015 05:04 Azarkon wrote:
According to this: http://www.thescoreesports.com/lol/news/4215, the Chinese teams - besides EDG - are failing because they have bad practice culture, eg Rookie and Kakao were on vacation in Korea before worlds, and I've also heard separately that Imp and Acorn also weren't practicing that much.

But then again it's from a LPL talk person and we all know how they rated China before the tournament.

I feel like the China proponents are the biggest homers. Talk up the region constantly, come up with a million excuses if they don't live up to the hype. Namei, LGD, IG.... there's more excuses here than CLG at their peak of excuse making and when Link wrote his manifesto combined.

Mensol

14536 Posts

October 06 2015 20:25 GMT

#20

On October 07 2015 05:14 Numy wrote:

Show nested quote +

Why are you equating individual performance with team performance? Xpeke is showing up but then bashing Froggen and Alex based on their team placing seems rather dumb.

I mean Froggen cant even perform likes against SK when it matters. Do you really think that he'd perform at Worlds against Nagne, godv and Bjergsen? l o l.

If you actually want to watch good individual performance, watch pre-MSI Bjergsen.

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