[NA LCS] Summer Split 2015 Week 7 - Page 16
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
On July 12 2015 12:15 739 wrote: I've just woke up to rewatch highlights of few games and I have to say that : Rush is a good jungler, damn I like watching him when he doesn't fuck things up <3 LOL at TSM getting beat by T8, muahuaha. I think when Zion said today that he didn't think TSM was going to worlds. It wasn't just a BM towards TSM. I just think he believes there's serious issues behind the scene. You can easily argue they fell apart at MSI and never full returned and that certain players lick balls(Santorin, I'm looking at you.) But look at the pick/ban today. Every game Nien gets Kalista they win. Conversely I think they've only won, one game this split without Kalista. And you're telling me Loco and the other two full time analysts couldn't see this coming? So TSM didn't ban Kalista, T8 had first pick and picked Kalista, ggwp. | ||
nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On July 12 2015 13:11 Sonnington wrote: I think when Zion said today that he didn't think TSM was going to worlds. It wasn't just a BM towards TSM. I just think he believes there's serious issues behind the scene. You can easily argue they fell apart at MSI and never full returned and that certain players lick balls(Santorin, I'm looking at you.) But look at the pick/ban today. Every game Nien gets Kalista they win. Conversely I think they've only won, one game this split without Kalista. And you're telling me Loco and the other two full time analysts couldn't see this coming? So TSM didn't ban Kalista, T8 had first pick and picked Kalista, ggwp. we have very different defitions of carry .Dyrus/santorin/lustboy were much bigger factors in t8's win than nien.Bjerd died last fight without shen ult being used,dyrus getting caught so many times and not even gonna start on santorin this game was so much more important.Nien literally did nothing.Hell he had less damage dealt than turtle.... I really hope tsm don't think they lost because of draft this time because it simply isn't true.If you play like this your draft is irrelevant. After rewatching the last fight it was even worse than I thought.Lustboy literally didn't ult his carry getting focused for 10+seconds and let him die and santorin just ran away instead of going in and giving his team a few seconds while he dies holy shit. | ||
Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
TSM seem to have the same issue for the last 2 years. I really wonder how much impact Loco has on the team. | ||
Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
On July 12 2015 18:02 nafta wrote: we have very different defitions of carry .Dyrus/santorin/lustboy were much bigger factors in t8's win than nien.Bjerd died last fight without shen ult being used,dyrus getting caught so many times and not even gonna start on santorin this game was so much more important.Nien literally did nothing.Hell he had less damage dealt than turtle.... I really hope tsm don't think they lost because of draft this time because it simply isn't true.If you play like this your draft is irrelevant. After rewatching the last fight it was even worse than I thought.Lustboy literally didn't ult his carry getting focused for 10+seconds and let him die and santorin just ran away instead of going in and giving his team a few seconds while he dies holy shit. Well, lets look at the outcome statistically. Nien is 4 for 5 on Kalista this split with something like a 10 KDA on her. Everytime he plays her he has the highest kill participation on the team. And while, yes, Turtle dealt 3k more damage than Nien ending the game with a 1/3/4. Nien also took 6k more damage and ended the game with a 7/1/6. I guess Nien is just good at knowing the limits of his champion and does efficient damage rather than some ADCs that do superfluous damage. | ||
Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On July 12 2015 13:11 Sonnington wrote: I think when Zion said today that he didn't think TSM was going to worlds. It wasn't just a BM towards TSM. I just think he believes there's serious issues behind the scene. You can easily argue they fell apart at MSI and never full returned and that certain players lick balls(Santorin, I'm looking at you.) But look at the pick/ban today. Every game Nien gets Kalista they win. Conversely I think they've only won, one game this split without Kalista. And you're telling me Loco and the other two full time analysts couldn't see this coming? So TSM didn't ban Kalista, T8 had first pick and picked Kalista, ggwp. With C9 getting relegated, I think TSM is practically guaranteed to go on circuit points. | ||
Caiada
United States3052 Posts
On July 12 2015 23:37 Sonnington wrote: Well, lets look at the outcome statistically. Nien is 4 for 5 on Kalista this split with something like a 10 KDA on her. Everytime he plays her he has the highest kill participation on the team. And while, yes, Turtle dealt 3k more damage than Nien ending the game with a 1/3/4. Nien also took 6k more damage and ended the game with a 7/1/6. I guess Nien is just good at knowing the limits of his champion and does efficient damage rather than some ADCs that do superfluous damage. Superfluous damage. My head hurts. | ||
nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On July 12 2015 23:37 Sonnington wrote: Well, lets look at the outcome statistically. Nien is 4 for 5 on Kalista this split with something like a 10 KDA on her. Everytime he plays her he has the highest kill participation on the team. And while, yes, Turtle dealt 3k more damage than Nien ending the game with a 1/3/4. Nien also took 6k more damage and ended the game with a 7/1/6. I guess Nien is just good at knowing the limits of his champion and does efficient damage rather than some ADCs that do superfluous damage. Problem is you are looking only at results and not in the game itself.Having good stats doesn't mean you played well.I mean yeah he is awful on other champs so maybe kalista is a good ban but he was behind 40 cs after lane phase so if tsm didn't throw and play so bad he would've been useless.Kalista is also a champion that is supposed to win lane she isn't a scaling champion. Like seriously what did nien do?Literally his only good play was killing an overextending turtle.He didn't do absolutely anything else the entire game that could be called solid play.He was just there and happened to be on the winning team. Speaking of you bringing up nien's stats at the end Santorin is the kda leader in the na lcs with 13 and is followed by piglet at 9.3.Clearly best jungler na. | ||
Caiada
United States3052 Posts
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EsanLOL
479 Posts
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
On July 13 2015 01:02 nafta wrote: Problem is you are looking only at results and not in the game itself.Having good stats doesn't mean you played well.I mean yeah he is awful on other champs so maybe kalista is a good ban but he was behind 40 cs after lane phase so if tsm didn't throw and play so bad he would've been useless.Kalista is also a champion that is supposed to win lane she isn't a scaling champion. Like seriously what did nien do?Literally his only good play was killing an overextending turtle.He didn't do absolutely anything else the entire game that could be called solid play.He was just there and happened to be on the winning team. Speaking of you bringing up nien's stats at the end Santorin is the kda leader in the na lcs with 13 and is followed by piglet at 9.3.Clearly best jungler na. That's true, I didn't watch yesterday's game past Nien getting first blood/Cali getting dove. I find it tough to watch T8, they have awful strategy. I did skim through the game though. Apparently they did some weird lane swapping early game. While Nien was down CS, Calitrols was up cs despite being killed. So I'm assuming they must've fed Cali CS over Nien. Despite all of that, Both Nien and Cali stayed relatively even in gold with their counterparts. I'd have to go back and rewatch the laning phase to see what was going on, because when I stopped watching at about 10 minutes in, Nien was even in farm with first blood and was sent top lane to farm alone while Cali got dove and killed bot lane. In any event, you ask what Nien did to win the game? I guess he did damage to the enemy at the times he knew he had the proper chance to kill them. Moreso than anyone else on his team. | ||
Caiada
United States3052 Posts
Clearly MVP of split. He can split it with Santorin. | ||
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739
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Edit : Did I understand good and Steve / Reginald gonna be at analyst desk? ^^ | ||
TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
On July 13 2015 03:56 739 wrote: TL should slay TSM tonight, at least I hope so. GV should stomp NME, Dig will struggle into win against C9, TiP should beat T8 and CLG vs TDK might be a funny game. Edit : Did I understand good and Steve / Reginald gonna be at analyst desk? ^^ best game last ^^ | ||
Majax
France816 Posts
They are learning ! | ||
Caiada
United States3052 Posts
Kog's weird. Probably would've gone Corki with Irelia. But I also wouldn't have gone Irelia at all. | ||
oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
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