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On May 02 2015 21:36 PaperkatTV wrote: Do you guys really think that SKT wouldn't have played Faker if he would be unhappy that they didn't? They probably never told him straight up that he might not play a game at all in the finals. No one is happy being on the bench during a finals and DEFINITELY not players who want to go down as the greatest of all time.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On May 02 2015 21:36 skykh wrote: Yeah the fall of korea i mean if fucking skt s+tom can win the ogn lol. I mean easyhoon had spirit+acorn+deft at one point and failed to advance in brackets ffs.
You know, there were times when CLG.EU were one game from winning Champions, Flame was in finals and Madlife was best support on the planet.
On May 02 2015 21:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2015 21:36 PaperkatTV wrote: Do you guys really think that SKT wouldn't have played Faker if he would be unhappy that they didn't? They probably never told him straight up that he might not play a game at all in the finals. No one is happy being on the bench during a finals and DEFINITELY not players who want to go down as the greatest of all time.
You're overblowing it so hard.
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On May 02 2015 21:37 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2015 21:36 skykh wrote: Yeah the fall of korea i mean if fucking skt s+tom can win the ogn lol. I mean easyhoon had spirit+acorn+deft at one point and failed to advance in brackets ffs. To be fair none of those guys were good at the time, like at all. Also even SSB with pawn over dade were not title contenders until their players started to peak.
SSB+Pawn was meeting peak skt in the quarter finals i mean.
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Blue wasn't good until Dade.
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The two best mids in Korea play on the same team
Faker gets his third OGN title....but doesnt play at all. Just feels so weird
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On May 02 2015 21:40 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2015 21:36 skykh wrote: Yeah the fall of korea i mean if fucking skt s+tom can win the ogn lol. I mean easyhoon had spirit+acorn+deft at one point and failed to advance in brackets ffs. You know, there were times when CLG.EU were one game from winning Champions, Flame was in finals and Madlife was best support on the planet. Show nested quote +On May 02 2015 21:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 02 2015 21:36 PaperkatTV wrote: Do you guys really think that SKT wouldn't have played Faker if he would be unhappy that they didn't? They probably never told him straight up that he might not play a game at all in the finals. No one is happy being on the bench during a finals and DEFINITELY not players who want to go down as the greatest of all time. You're overblowing it so hard. I'm really not. This goes into so much more than even just Faker's own feelings I haven't even touched the tip of the iceberg. Faker literally did not play a game in the finals and didn't even get a chance to earn MVP (both seasonal and finals MVP) which both have money rewards on top of the prestige by the way. Personally I'm astounded people aren't in an uproar about this because if this happened in ANYTHING else it would be highly controversial. Viewership numbers, league attraction... so many things tie into having the star player sit out.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
well organizational results take priority, and it's a team game. if eazyhoon lost a game faker would be in there.
faker did look uncomfortable though.
given eazyhoon's champ pool restrictions there's really very little chance that faker becomes disposable for skt. they would still be a better team if they simply played faker all the time and develop better synergy with him though.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On May 02 2015 21:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2015 21:40 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On May 02 2015 21:36 skykh wrote: Yeah the fall of korea i mean if fucking skt s+tom can win the ogn lol. I mean easyhoon had spirit+acorn+deft at one point and failed to advance in brackets ffs. You know, there were times when CLG.EU were one game from winning Champions, Flame was in finals and Madlife was best support on the planet. On May 02 2015 21:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 02 2015 21:36 PaperkatTV wrote: Do you guys really think that SKT wouldn't have played Faker if he would be unhappy that they didn't? They probably never told him straight up that he might not play a game at all in the finals. No one is happy being on the bench during a finals and DEFINITELY not players who want to go down as the greatest of all time. You're overblowing it so hard. I'm really not. This goes into so much more than even just Faker's own feelings I haven't even touched the tip of the iceberg. Faker literally did not play a game in the finals and didn't even get a chance to earn MVP (both seasonal and finals MVP) which both have money rewards on top of the prestige by the way. Personally I'm astounded people aren't in an uproar about this because if this happened in ANYTHING else it would be highly controversial. Viewership numbers, league attraction... so many things tie into having the star player sit out.
That's why we had 200k on only English streams for Korean league, not LCS finals. It's not like SKT T1, the most historied organisation in Korea doesn't pay salaries to players either, lol.
If Faker has lower ego than casual user of LiquidLegends, I'm pretty sure that he's happy right now and going to rip through MSI. Champion once will be always champion.
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On May 02 2015 21:48 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2015 21:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 02 2015 21:40 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On May 02 2015 21:36 skykh wrote: Yeah the fall of korea i mean if fucking skt s+tom can win the ogn lol. I mean easyhoon had spirit+acorn+deft at one point and failed to advance in brackets ffs. You know, there were times when CLG.EU were one game from winning Champions, Flame was in finals and Madlife was best support on the planet. On May 02 2015 21:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 02 2015 21:36 PaperkatTV wrote: Do you guys really think that SKT wouldn't have played Faker if he would be unhappy that they didn't? They probably never told him straight up that he might not play a game at all in the finals. No one is happy being on the bench during a finals and DEFINITELY not players who want to go down as the greatest of all time. You're overblowing it so hard. I'm really not. This goes into so much more than even just Faker's own feelings I haven't even touched the tip of the iceberg. Faker literally did not play a game in the finals and didn't even get a chance to earn MVP (both seasonal and finals MVP) which both have money rewards on top of the prestige by the way. Personally I'm astounded people aren't in an uproar about this because if this happened in ANYTHING else it would be highly controversial. Viewership numbers, league attraction... so many things tie into having the star player sit out. That's why we had 200k on only English streams for Korean league, not LCS finals. It's not like SKT T1, the most historied organisation in Korea doesn't pay salaries to players either, lol. If Faker has lower ego than casual user of LiquidLegends, I'm pretty sure that he's happy right now and going to rip through MSI. Champion once will be always champion. Tell people ahead of time faker won't play in a series and those numbers go down hard. SKT S was nowhere near as popular as this SKT team.
Players care about everything - money, fame, status, winning. Certain players put different weightings on each of those aspects. To think faker is the most selfless player ever and only cares about his team winning would be naive. He definitely cares about his own status as being the best individual, and he didn't get to prove it today on a very important stage. There are certain limits to what a player would be okay with and I guarantee that he won't ever let SKT sit him out for an entire finals again.
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You don't really know his personality at all, he could have just as easily been happy for his friend.
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On May 02 2015 21:58 PaperkatTV wrote: You don't really know his personality at all, he could have just as easily been happy for his friend. He constantly talks about how he wants to prove he's the best in the world. Pretty much every top player talks about this in fact. It's just the nature of being in a competitive career where the whole point is to being better than someone else.
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On May 02 2015 22:04 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2015 21:58 PaperkatTV wrote: You don't really know his personality at all, he could have just as easily been happy for his friend. He constantly talks about how he wants to prove he's the best in the world. Pretty much every top player talks about this in fact. It's just the nature of being in a competitive career where the whole point is to being better than someone else.
And then you have people like Messi for example.
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If messi sat out a finals all hell would break loose.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
well if skt was run like CJ faker would be playing. it's honestly just the way skt is run. they make putting team before their valuable stars a sort of organizational culture. see bisu for example.
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Faker will tryhard at MSI, I guarantee that.
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On May 02 2015 22:46 Call_me_b_ wrote: Faker will tryhard at MSI, I guarantee that. If only Kkoma brings him instead Easyhoon
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I was going to watch the VODs in full, but no Faker at all during the series? =/
Recommended games anyone?
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Itsmedudeman, stop speculating like you know what's going on in Faker's mind. You don't.
Yes, you're pissed about not seeing Faker play. We get it. Too fucking bad, GET were too shit to bring out Faker, and Ezhoon played great today.
Let's hope Faker is at MSI.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On May 02 2015 23:30 ShootAnonymous wrote: I was going to watch the VODs in full, but no Faker at all during the series? =/
Recommended games anyone? G3 is basically the only one that wasn't a complete stomp but it was for incredibly lomo reasons. Honestly a very skippable series overall.
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On May 02 2015 21:04 Itsmedudeman wrote: Honestly, if I were faker I would be PISSED at the organization. If faker was unhappy about anything about how skt was ran. He should have moved to China for fast stacks of cash
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