EPT-korean dominance still op
-chinese finally at the top cause money op
- TSM
EDG takes 2015 Mid-Season Invitational - Page 17
| Forum Index > LoL Tournaments |
|
TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
-korean dominance still op -chinese finally at the top cause money op - TSM | ||
|
LimpingGoat
898 Posts
-chinese finally at the top cause money op - TSM | ||
|
Buonomo
Canada84 Posts
'The team that wins the mid season invitational will stand alone in the spotlight for the rest of the year' No, they won't. 'If TSM is able to get Bjergsen going they will be able to crush the competition' No, they won't. 'The EU LCS is defined by it's ability to develop long lasting superstars' That's why the split's best performers were rookies. 'The LCK is surgical, clinical and unforgiving' I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. 'The team that wins the mid season invitational will stand alone in the spotlight for the rest of the year' This is the most significant and most visible international tourney until worlds. The best teams from each region are there. The format is such that we can definitively call the winner the best team in the world and we'll likely refer to this tourney whenever gauging international strength at least until worlds rolls around. That's what the spotlight means. Nothing wrong with this. 'If TSM is able to get Bjergsen going they will be able to crush the competition' Riv put the emphasis on 'will' which makes this sound a little too strong, but otherwise its a perfectly fine statement. The point of power for most of the best teams at this tournament is the mid-lane. If TSM can put Bjergsen ahead against the likes of Faker and Pawn then it definitely opens up an opportunity for TSM to win. Obviously EDG doesn't *need* Pawn to win, and lately SKT has gotten a lot of power from Bang, but Riv said "will be able" which implies the opportunity to win, not something like "going to" which implies certainty. Nothing wrong with this. 'The EU LCS is defined by it's ability to develop long lasting superstars' Accompanied by a shot of Yellowstar, one of League's longest lasting superstars. Nothing wrong with this. 'The LCK is surgical, clinical and unforgiving' It means they're precise, play a good strategic game, are excellent at closing games and will punish nearly every mistake. It's not cryptic in any way. Nothing wrong with this. The problem isn't the hype quotes The problem is the closeup of Quiksh0t's ugly mug. | ||
|
Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On May 06 2015 02:25 AlterKot wrote: They don't "have to" do shit, it's their fucking creative decision whether to reasonably explain state of international competition or just spew bullshit that sounds cool and might get someone hyped (and then dissapointed when they actually watch it). Suck it up. | ||
|
TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
| ||
|
Mensol
14536 Posts
On May 06 2015 03:44 TitusVI wrote: Already 17 pages. This will be BIG. huehue I expect minimum 60 page on SKT T1 vs TSM. | ||
|
TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
and only 6 page serious discussion. | ||
|
Wijnruit
Brazil294 Posts
And 50 pages containing only posts with TSM TSM TSM, TSM is playing or not. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
| ||
|
Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 03 2015 05:47 LimpingGoat wrote: The lineup of MSI is literally the same as the one as IEM plus the number 1 Chinese team instead of WE. The fact that so much talent left Korea has already and will continue to prove pretty fucking devastating. It's the main reason I'm so confident that they won't win MSI. I'm not even sure what "teamfighting style" means, they are playing the same game guys, it's not martial arts. Your argument works only insofar as raw talent is what decides success in eSports - in which case, the loss of 80% of LCK's best players to other regions ought to create a devastating loss in competitiveness - eventually. But there are other explanations. Quoting myself from another thread: A few hypotheses to keep in mind: H1. Korea's eSports infrastructure is what keeps Koreans ahead in eSports. Projected outcome: LCK ~ LPL at MSI, LCK > LPL at Worlds, with previously second-tier/third-tier Korean players trumping the Chinese imports by the end of Summer. On average, the Chinese imports' skill level drops and eventually converges to the Chinese average the longer they stay in the scene, such that by the end of 2016, there is little difference between all-CN and CN+KR teams. H2. Raw talent/not exportable culture, to a greater degree than infrastructure, is responsible for Korea's success. Projected outcome: LCK ~ LPL at MSI, LCK < LPL at Worlds, due to SKT being the only team with talent equivalent to those on LPL teams. The tier 1 Korean players eg Deft, Imp, Pawn, etc. end up dumpstering the tier 2/tier 3 Korean players in LCK, while at the same time staying ahead of their Chinese teammates. There is a permanent and insurmountable skill difference between the CN+KR teams and the all-CN teams. H3. Exportable culture is responsible for Korea's success, to a greater degree than both talent and infrastructure. Projected outcome: LCK ~ LPL at MSI, LCK ~ LPL at Worlds, due to both regions converging to the same exportable cultural attitude towards eSports as a result of LPL importing Korean work ethic & coaching. In this scenario, Chinese players on CN+KR teams, especially those with Korean coaches, gradually improve to tier 1 LCK level, and there is no longer a skill disparity between them. The smoking gun for this hypothesis is an all-CN team with a Korean coach becoming the best team in LPL. For eSports theorists, exciting times are ahead. Also, MSI isn't the best avenue for testing, because while LCK lost a lot of top talent, they still had enough stay-behinds to make 1-2 top-tier teams. MSI only has the best team from each region, which isn't affected to the same degree by quantitative loss. | ||
|
419
Russian Federation3631 Posts
60 pages of user was banned for this post | ||
|
chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
I don't get why all of a sudden TSM is a rival for SKT T1...I wouldn't expect that game to be close at all. If anything, TSM vs. Fnatic is gonna be much more interesting and will stir up some shit no matter who wins. | ||
|
LimpingGoat
898 Posts
On May 06 2015 09:56 chosenkerrigan wrote: I don't get why all of a sudden TSM is a rival for SKT T1...I wouldn't expect that game to be close at all. If anything, TSM vs. Fnatic is gonna be much more interesting and will stir up some shit no matter who wins. lol, SKT is the underdog in TSM vs SKT tbh | ||
|
Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
| ||
|
LimpingGoat
898 Posts
On May 06 2015 10:28 Itsmedudeman wrote: The best thing about this event is that someone is gonna get exposed and the shit talk will be immense. Imagine Bjergsen solokilling Faker. Would be glorious. | ||
|
Caiada
United States3052 Posts
On May 06 2015 09:56 chosenkerrigan wrote: I don't get why all of a sudden TSM is a rival for SKT T1...I wouldn't expect that game to be close at all. If anything, TSM vs. Fnatic is gonna be much more interesting and will stir up some shit no matter who wins. TSM is in an upswing, Fnatic/EU in general seems to have headed down. EUvNA at the moment is so heavily NA-sided objectively at the moment that TSM winning won't be a surprise. Of course, if Fnatic wins, hell yeah, shitstorm for days. SKT and TSM are rivals because they're converging (TSM headed up, SKT/Korea headed down is the consensus at the moment) and Bjerg has an unkillable hype machine. SKTvTSMvEDG is this tournament's only storyline unless Fnatic makes something happen out of nowhere. | ||
|
Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
| ||
|
oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
| ||
|
cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Like, do they watch OGN at all? | ||
|
Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
| ||
| ||
