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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 12 2015 20:28 GMT
#1761
On April 13 2015 05:25 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 05:24 Fusilero wrote:
On April 13 2015 05:23 iCanada wrote:
Real talk; Vardags has to be the worst ADC I've ever seen at the pro level.

Mashme pls

Zuna pls


Zuna at least had his moments.
Inb4 Nafta comes running into thread with "THE TESS" howl.

We can find a lot of bad adcs, but Vardags literally got carried to premier league finals in 2015 right now.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 12 2015 20:28 GMT
#1762
On April 13 2015 05:27 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 05:13 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Zed really is useless now, isn't he? He can't play around all that peel.

Can't remember where (OGN I think? Not LCK), but there was one Zed who, against all the QSS and Zhonya's on the other team, just ulted someone to start a fight, forcing the enemy team to group toward him and blow Zhonya's/QSS, sometimes even Exhaust, he would then almost immediatly press R to prevent being cc'd, and his team would be able to follow up.
Zed easily reaches 400 AD late game, so it's not like he doesn't deal damage without his ult.

I think NA LCS Team Liquid vs CLG where in spite of all the QSS up fenix pretty much played a poke zed with his ult combos.
Glorious SEA doto
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 12 2015 20:28 GMT
#1763
On April 13 2015 05:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Aphormoo ADC was pretty fucking trash too.


Occasionally though, he'd pull out Vayne and Hard Carry. Vardags loses every lane while being force fed kills by his godlike support and using skills to KS in fights.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9269 Posts
April 12 2015 20:29 GMT
#1764
UoL reminds me of old Roccat, they aren't exactly the best mechanically but they brought some fun and creative things to LCS.

I'd give MVP to Svenskeren, SK would get 3:0d if not his Lee
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las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
April 12 2015 20:29 GMT
#1765
On April 13 2015 05:27 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 05:13 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Zed really is useless now, isn't he? He can't play around all that peel.

Can't remember where (OGN I think? Not LCK), but there was one Zed who, against all the QSS and Zhonya's on the other team, just ulted someone to start a fight, forcing the enemy team to group toward him and blow Zhonya's/QSS, sometimes even Exhaust, he would then almost immediatly press R to prevent being cc'd, and his team would be able to follow up.
Zed easily reaches 400 AD late game, so it's not like he doesn't deal damage without his ult.


It's very hard to make the champion work in teamfights in this meta, they didn't use him correctly and keep the pressure up long enough with the split push and the comp that UoL had would always out-teamfight SK in late game.
In Inca we trust
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 20:31:51
April 12 2015 20:30 GMT
#1766
I feel bad for Svenskeren, although maybe he earned it with that smite.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 20:31:47
April 12 2015 20:30 GMT
#1767
On April 13 2015 05:29 Sent. wrote:
UoL reminds me of old Roccat, they aren't exactly the best mechanically but they brought some fun and creative things to LCS.

I'd give MVP to Svenskeren, SK would get 3:0d if not his Lee


Svenskeren arguably lost them series by his awful Gragas and this smite in g5.
Hylissang literally carried his team through playoffs, if anyone deserves to be in finals from them, it's him.

On April 13 2015 05:30 ketchup wrote:
That is definitely the most embarrassing steal I've ever seen...


What about yesterday, Hjarnan stole dragon with aa against double smite+consume.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
April 12 2015 20:30 GMT
#1768
That is definitely the most embarrassing steal I've ever seen...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 12 2015 20:31 GMT
#1769
that was hell of a game 5 though,
liftlift > tsm
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
April 12 2015 20:32 GMT
#1770
On April 13 2015 05:25 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
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On April 13 2015 05:21 MajorityofOne wrote:
On April 13 2015 05:20 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Surprise, aoe mid liner beats melee assassin mid laner in a tank meta.


Yeah it was really that simply huh?

Well there were more problems with SK's comp than just zed. Shyvana being a useless champion doesn't help. Corki's auto range would kill him if he tries to use it. But the ori just puts on so much damage over the course of a fight compared to zed. And it should be pretty obvious this isn't an assassin meta. Even faker is playing ap cho and urgot.


There was a gigantic obvious window where Corki and Zed could've won that game. Why tunnel on team comps and not look at the actual way the game was played?

UOL picked the scaling comp, SK picked the midgame team, and and combination of UOL madness and SK failures allowed a won game for SK to stall out. Picking Zed, picking Orianna, picking Shyvana.....all of these things are just minor details
Majax
Profile Joined December 2014
France816 Posts
April 12 2015 20:32 GMT
#1771
Fnatic at MSI HYPE !
Can't take LMS hipsters serious
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
April 12 2015 20:33 GMT
#1772
vardags had 90% crit chance at the end :D
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
April 12 2015 20:33 GMT
#1773
On April 13 2015 05:26 AlterKot wrote:

I want to see Sven on a different team :/ And forgiven obviously but he's joining UoL :>


I can't image how Forg1ven would blend in with rest of the UOL roster. They looks to me like some happy, crazy, pure players - and Forg1ven seems like ruthless, whining and demanding adc. I dont think he would fit to UOL mentality.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9269 Posts
April 12 2015 20:36 GMT
#1774
On April 13 2015 05:30 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 05:29 Sent. wrote:
UoL reminds me of old Roccat, they aren't exactly the best mechanically but they brought some fun and creative things to LCS.

I'd give MVP to Svenskeren, SK would get 3:0d if not his Lee


Svenskeren arguably lost them series by his awful Gragas and this smite in g5.
Hylissang literally carried his team through playoffs, if anyone deserves to be in finals from them, it's him.



Oh yeah I forgot about that Gragas, Hylissang had bad moments too but he had to carry Vardags so you're right, he deserves it more than Svenskeren
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MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 20:37:24
April 12 2015 20:36 GMT
#1775
On April 13 2015 05:33 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 05:26 AlterKot wrote:

I want to see Sven on a different team :/ And forgiven obviously but he's joining UoL :>


I can't image how Forg1ven would blend in with rest of the UOL roster. They looks to me like some happy, crazy, pure players - and Forg1ven seems like ruthless, whining and demanding adc. I dont think he would fit to UOL mentality.


On paper, Forgiven is everything UOL wants. But the personality fit does seem really off. If UOL adds a top class ADC to what they have then they'd be a legit favorite and not the crazy underdog

I don't know where Forgiven goes if he leaves SK....Fnatic maybe? I honestly don't think Fnatic NEEDS that type of skill from their ADC, and he seems to dislike Yellowstar and might not be able to handle YellowStar being the leader. Somewhere in NA?
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
April 12 2015 20:37 GMT
#1776
Puszu wasn't actually that bad though. Like, he wouldn't feed kills randomly and be 100 cs behind. Aphromoo also had his moments.
Even fucking Zuna did something useful on occasion.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 20:39:32
April 12 2015 20:38 GMT
#1777
My issue with Vardags is that I feel like he should be improving, but he is just stuck in that weird playstyle since the promotion games. I think almost all of UoL has been great in LCS except for Vardags.
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
April 12 2015 20:40 GMT
#1778
Dunno guys, I have seen ADCs with less CS winning OGN.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 12 2015 20:41 GMT
#1779
On April 13 2015 05:36 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 05:30 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 13 2015 05:29 Sent. wrote:
UoL reminds me of old Roccat, they aren't exactly the best mechanically but they brought some fun and creative things to LCS.

I'd give MVP to Svenskeren, SK would get 3:0d if not his Lee


Svenskeren arguably lost them series by his awful Gragas and this smite in g5.
Hylissang literally carried his team through playoffs, if anyone deserves to be in finals from them, it's him.



Oh yeah I forgot about that Gragas, Hylissang had bad moments too but he had to carry Vardags so you're right, he deserves it more than Svenskeren


wouldnt that make Svenskeren MVP for both teams then?
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9269 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 20:42:16
April 12 2015 20:41 GMT
#1780
On April 13 2015 05:37 Fildun wrote:
Puszu wasn't actually that bad though. Like, he wouldn't feed kills randomly and be 100 cs behind. Aphromoo also had his moments.


Wasn't this exactly how Puszu performed at worlds? I know it's hard to keep up with Uzi but you shouldn't get stomped that hard every game

On April 13 2015 05:41 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 05:36 Sent. wrote:
On April 13 2015 05:30 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 13 2015 05:29 Sent. wrote:
UoL reminds me of old Roccat, they aren't exactly the best mechanically but they brought some fun and creative things to LCS.

I'd give MVP to Svenskeren, SK would get 3:0d if not his Lee


Svenskeren arguably lost them series by his awful Gragas and this smite in g5.
Hylissang literally carried his team through playoffs, if anyone deserves to be in finals from them, it's him.



Oh yeah I forgot about that Gragas, Hylissang had bad moments too but he had to carry Vardags so you're right, he deserves it more than Svenskeren


wouldnt that make Svenskeren MVP for both teams then?


hehehehe yes
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