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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4894 Posts
April 18 2015 20:11 GMT
#2281
On April 19 2015 05:04 krndandaman wrote:
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On April 19 2015 04:57 Uldridge wrote:
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On April 19 2015 04:48 krndandaman wrote:
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On April 19 2015 04:39 Uldridge wrote:
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On April 19 2015 04:30 krndandaman wrote:
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it is their failure at bo5s.
you reference them losing to UOL which has nothing to do with the expectations of fans, analysts, teams, etc. before the games actually happened.

everyone knew they were one dimensional but what everyone didn't know was whether the other EU teams were capable of exposing them like international teams could.

turns out they could.

if you actually knew that, good for you. but pretty much everyone else didn't so you must be some kind of genius analyst or something


Actually I've only watched UOL vs SK after it happened, but if you simply never see any change from a team in how they play, ever, then how do you think they'e going to play in a series? Suddenly they're gonna bust out some elaborate comp to baffle every team?
On a small tangent, that interview with Scarra about him leaving CLG and the bit where he talked about the identity of a team makes it all even more clear to me.
It comes down to this for me: SK was interesting at the start of the split, they got boring really fast, they got figured out somewhat, I hoped that would be a wake-up call for them so they would started diversifying their strats but no.. while all the other teams got stronger and stronger towards the end of the split.


are you even arguing the point I made?
all I said was that SK was the clear favorite for most of the season, nothing more nothing less.

I don't think you're arguing the point I made and now you're confusing me.


Only thing I'm trying to say is that their one dimensionality really wasn't hard to see that it was going to be the thing shooting SK in the foot, especially during bo3/5s.
If your team needs to be top in the world or even the region you need a playbook, you need to have different styles, you need to be able to think on the fly and work dynamically during picks & bans. If you have one type of comp lined up or one type of style, you can't be flustered if the other team contests one of your preferred picks.
And we're not arguing, we're having a conversation :>


it sounds like you're making an argument because our conversation is going like this

me: sk was considered the favorites for a majority of the season
you: well, they were one dimensional and it was about time they were gonna exposed etc etc
me: but thats not my point, I'm just saying that they were the favorites
you: but you see, it was clear that they were one dimensional and bo1s don't reflect a team's ability in a bo5
me: yeah but again thats not my point, I was just commenting on how sad it is that the clear favorites during the regular season is now a measly 4th
you: -repeats same thing-

it has nothing to do with the comment I made in the first place.


How does my comment about them being one dimensional not imply that they would get exposed in a series?
Why is TSM good? Because they adapt.
Why does SK suck? Because more of the same.
Taxes are for Terrans
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 20:13:29
April 18 2015 20:12 GMT
#2282
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4894 Posts
April 18 2015 20:15 GMT
#2283
I just don't understand how I'm supposed to address the fact that absolutely everyone saw them as favourites when I clearly didn't. I gave you a few points why I didn't see them as favourites and that it was obvious to me that they lost to UOL and H2K.
How is that not addressing the point? What in the hell am I missing?
Taxes are for Terrans
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 20:20:44
April 18 2015 20:19 GMT
#2284
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4894 Posts
April 18 2015 20:24 GMT
#2285
Ok, ofcourse I understand that's undebatable. So I guess we had a few replies too much to eachother I guess, huh?
Well, all else I can say is, I hope Forgiven stays and nRated gets swapped. That would be one huge step forward already.
Taxes are for Terrans
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
April 18 2015 22:06 GMT
#2286
Yo, I didn't get to participate in the h2k hype, but H2k HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Going to be late here, but worth it
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 19 2015 14:53 GMT
#2287
Rooting for the unicorns but pretty happy with both teams in the finals.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21839 Posts
April 19 2015 14:57 GMT
#2288
I like Unicorn and ill be happy if they win but I fully expect Fnatic to win this 3-1.

(unless they are still in love with Lee top. Then anything can happen)
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
April 19 2015 15:03 GMT
#2289
No stupid shit like Smite/TP top Lee and we're fine Fnatic !!!!!!!! Gogogogog !
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
April 19 2015 15:05 GMT
#2290
The last fnatic - UoL game was probably the best game in the EU LCS, so I'm hoping for another off the hook game today.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
April 19 2015 15:17 GMT
#2291
I am all for UoL win, but I am afraid experience will gain upper hand and Fanatic will win the whole thing in 3-0 sweep.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
April 19 2015 15:17 GMT
#2292
Very hyped for today's games.

Hoping for exciting games.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9226 Posts
April 19 2015 15:18 GMT
#2293
Are we going to talk shit about Vardags whole match again ? :D
You're now breathing manually
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
April 19 2015 15:18 GMT
#2294
RIP Hylissang
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4894 Posts
April 19 2015 15:19 GMT
#2295
I actually don't have anyone to root for. I just hope for some great games!
Taxes are for Terrans
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-19 15:20:55
April 19 2015 15:20 GMT
#2296
On April 20 2015 00:19 Uldridge wrote:
I actually don't have anyone to root for. I just hope for some great games!

Root for Fnatic because people hyping UoL will be insufferable for a really long time.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4894 Posts
April 19 2015 15:22 GMT
#2297
But UOL is really good.. :>
Taxes are for Terrans
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-19 15:23:06
April 19 2015 15:22 GMT
#2298
EU LCS 2015 Spring Split Grandfinal Game 1


FNC 0 - 0 UoLAcer


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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 19 2015 15:22 GMT
#2299
It's gonna be an AP varus and I'm gonna get cancer
Glorious SEA doto
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9226 Posts
April 19 2015 15:22 GMT
#2300
Unicorns of Cheese
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