[IEM] Katowice 2015 Discussion - Page 25
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
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Radoq
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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las91
United States5080 Posts
On March 13 2015 23:18 419 wrote: How strong are SKs lanes regarded? My few impressions lead to me to not expect a 10 minute full-blown collapse a la C9, at least... could be wrong though ~ (i don't watch irrelevant lcs xaxa))) No clue, and C9's solo lanes have looked awful so I can't even tell if it's GE being massively outskilling or C9 just collapsing mechanically. Sneakynation did ok tho | ||
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nonlamer
Thailand322 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On March 13 2015 23:20 las91 wrote: No clue, and C9's solo lanes have looked awful so I can't even tell if it's GE being massively outskilling or C9 just collapsing mechanically. Sneakynation did ok tho It was both, honestly. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
SK's solo lanes are a lot better than C9's. C9 was just so ahead of the curve two seasons ago. Now? Their solo lanes (esp mid) are just such a detriment in 2015. | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
After that failed dive top I just had to close it. Everyone knows Hai is a weak as shit laner so it didn't surprise me seeing him as far down 7 minutes in as he was | ||
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Flicky
England2670 Posts
On March 13 2015 23:18 419 wrote: How strong are SKs lanes regarded? My few impressions lead to me to not expect a 10 minute full-blown collapse a la C9, at least... could be wrong though ~ (i don't watch irrelevant lcs xaxa))) Basically, in Europe they're all pretty good. Fredy is solid in lane, one of the better players but not the best. Fox does well too then Forgiven/Nrated are regarded as the best bot-lane in Europe, probably even in the west. No one claims that Fredy and Fox are godlike laners, but they never really falter. SK have a "macro" style to borrow from BW terminology, they remind me of a Flash 14CC in so many ways. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On March 13 2015 23:20 las91 wrote: No clue, and C9's solo lanes have looked awful so I can't even tell if it's GE being massively outskilling or C9 just collapsing mechanically. Sneakynation did ok tho C9 had an exp lead from the level 1 kill. C9 had Meteos applying pressure to the lane at level 2. C9 took ignite for lane pressure. C9 used ignite solely to keep lane pressure up. C9 won lane by 5cs. 'did ok' | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On March 13 2015 23:22 nafta wrote: Hard to say how sk's lanes will do vs kr.Probably top/mid should be able to farm it out but bot proly gonna lose. What? When is the last time Forgiven has lost a lane and fallen behind in cs? In lane Forgiven and nRated are one of the best in the world hands down. Like, I have no reason to fanboy EU/SK, that much is just a fact. In a 2v1 Forgiven is almost flawless in csing. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On March 13 2015 23:22 Itsmedudeman wrote: Welp, another hyped SEA team down. So who's the next team from SEA that's gonna be like 74-0 against Coast level teams that they hype up next? Hyped? I thought everybody "hyping" them up was more about wanting them to do well than actually thinking they would do well. | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
On March 13 2015 23:23 Ansibled wrote: C9 had an exp lead from the level 1 kill. C9 got Meteos applying pressure to the lane at level 2. C9 took ignite for lane pressure. C9 used ignite solely to keep lane pressure up. C9 won lane by 5cs. 'did ok' compared to the balls/hai shit show I would say that is "Ok" yes? | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On March 13 2015 23:09 las91 wrote: EU fans should be afraid for the state of their LCS. This has been an astoundingly bad draft AND execution of strategy from Yoe and I see no real progression to pushing down/getting a functional split push from SK. If they dont' get moving Cait/Xerath can quickly take over the game. Because YoeFW has a bad draft I should be worried about the state of the whole LCS? :D This hyperbole gets ever more random. I would not be worried about a whole league no matter what SK did. | ||
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ShootAnonymous
1948 Posts
On March 13 2015 23:22 Itsmedudeman wrote: Welp, another hyped SEA team down. So who's the next team from SEA that's gonna be like 74-0 against Coast level teams that they hype up next? Lol SEA hasn't been hyped since S2. Most people just happen to root for the underdog when said underdog isn't competing against their fav. team. Upsets are fun. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On March 13 2015 23:24 Itsmedudeman wrote: What? When is the last time Forgiven has lost a lane and fallen behind in cs? In lane Forgiven and nRated are one of the best in the world hands down. Like, I have no reason to fanboy EU/SK, that much is just a fact. In a 2v1 Forgiven is almost flawless in csing. To the cw lane and the h2k lane. When they play vs the garbage eu bot lanes they destroy them but pretty sure they would get destroyed by the actual good asian 2v2s.Would love to be proven wrong and hopefully we will see.Sk perform the best when they get a laneswap imo. Also they pick a lot of counter matchups and forgiven plays only graves/cait/lucian which are pretty good at snowballing a lead when playing like a jungler doesn't exist which they tend to do. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On March 13 2015 23:23 Flicky wrote: Basically, in Europe they're all pretty good. Fredy is solid in lane, one of the better players but not the best. Fox does well too then Forgiven/Nrated are regarded as the best bot-lane in Europe, probably even in the west. No one claims that Fredy and Fox are godlike laners, but they never really falter. SK have a "macro" style to borrow from BW terminology, they remind me of a Flash 14CC in so many ways. Prob just semantics here but "never really falter" I really think is reserved for the top of the region. Forgiven is certainly this for ADC. Fox is close but he falls short to the likes of Febiven. freddy... western Top Lanes are just hilar, zz. But freddy is decent. o/ | ||
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