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On March 15 2015 05:07 Disengaged wrote:
Its one game people lol
Also, if GE Tigers just didn't fool around and be overconfident, WE doesn't stand a chance.
You look at the GE Tigers after that game you just know they were like "yeah, probably should stop messing around now lolz"
I mean PraY still on Corki..they can't be that trolling..but yeah I agree they didn't give WE full respect this game.
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United States47024 Posts
On March 15 2015 05:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
King/Starhorn are better, Gamtee is better, EP is probably better as well in Raphael's good day though.
Honestly top 2-3 LSPL are probably better than them, so they're probably like 13th/14th place in China, lol.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 15 2015 05:10 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
King/Starhorn are better, Gamtee is better, EP is probably better as well in Raphael's good day though.
Honestly top 2-3 LSPL are probably better than them, so they're probably like 13th/14th place in China, lol.
Swift's team is probably better, idk about ADG without BaeMe, I'm yet to see them.
But yep, that's pretty much it, WE shouldn't die in LPL promotions though, unless they really collapse heavily.
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On March 15 2015 05:04 GhandiEAGLE wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:02 DystopiaX wrote:On March 15 2015 05:02 Doctorbeat wrote:On March 15 2015 05:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
My god is S5 Worlds going to be a clusterfuck. Chinese dominance might be the new fad. I mean if this is the worst LPL team clearly China gonna win everything lol I wonder if WE stays as the worst team in China after this tournament though. They're clearly looking better than they did in the LPL.
Roflmao. Somebody doesn't watch LPL. WE doesn't look that much better at all. They have literally the same exact flaws. Botlane/Aluka will still get their shit pushed in all day while Spirit breaks his back hoping his midlane can show up. Xiye looks good atm but Ninja had his good days too. People just aren't willing to admit that Korea really got ravaged a lot harder with the talent departure than previously thought.
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WE barely won 3-2 vs a lspl team that couldn't get out of groups (9-16th place challenger team)
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WHAT I FEEL IS THAT IF IT IS NOT FKING BOTLANE SILLY ENGAGE IN THE FIRST GAME, WE CAN WIN FKING2:0
#IAMFKINGHIGH
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On March 15 2015 05:10 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:08 Maluk wrote:On March 15 2015 05:05 ketchup wrote:On March 15 2015 05:02 Maluk wrote:On March 15 2015 05:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
My god is S5 Worlds going to be a clusterfuck. China just wins at this rate lol. That is a good thing. Maybe it will finally convince Korean companies to start treating/paying their players better(if the exodus already hasn't) I don't think Korea can recover from a period of chinese domination. China has more money, the same infrastructure, and elite players of its own. If China takes over it will not be a temporary reign. What are you basing this off of? The only other international esport I can think of that China is big in is Dota where they don't completely dominate even though they once did.
That one game clearly.
If China has to buy Koreans to even have a chance at beating them then that says alot. Such as no faith in all-chinese teams.
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On March 15 2015 05:08 Maluk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:05 ketchup wrote:On March 15 2015 05:02 Maluk wrote:On March 15 2015 05:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
My god is S5 Worlds going to be a clusterfuck. China just wins at this rate lol. That is a good thing. Maybe it will finally convince Korean companies to start treating/paying their players better(if the exodus already hasn't) I don't think Korea can recover from a period of chinese domination. China has more money, the same infrastructure, and elite players of its own. If China takes over it will not be a temporary reign.
Eh, most of the players don't like living in China. We'll see how long players like Mata can stand being on a mediocre team before calling it quits.
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Baa?21244 Posts
On March 15 2015 05:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:10 TheYango wrote:On March 15 2015 05:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
King/Starhorn are better, Gamtee is better, EP is probably better as well in Raphael's good day though.
Honestly top 2-3 LSPL are probably better than them, so they're probably like 13th/14th place in China, lol. Swift's team is probably better, idk about ADG without BaeMe, I'm yet to see them. But yep, that's pretty much it, WE shouldn't die in LPL promotions though, unless they really collapse heavily.
Vici Potential (Heart's team) is probably on par/better than WE too.
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On March 15 2015 05:10 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:08 Maluk wrote:On March 15 2015 05:05 ketchup wrote:On March 15 2015 05:02 Maluk wrote:On March 15 2015 05:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
My god is S5 Worlds going to be a clusterfuck. China just wins at this rate lol. That is a good thing. Maybe it will finally convince Korean companies to start treating/paying their players better(if the exodus already hasn't) I don't think Korea can recover from a period of chinese domination. China has more money, the same infrastructure, and elite players of its own. If China takes over it will not be a temporary reign. What are you basing this off of? The only other international esport I can think of that China is big in is Dota where they don't completely dominate even though they once did.
Warcraft 3 <3
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 15 2015 05:10 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:08 Maluk wrote:On March 15 2015 05:05 ketchup wrote:On March 15 2015 05:02 Maluk wrote:On March 15 2015 05:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
My god is S5 Worlds going to be a clusterfuck. China just wins at this rate lol. That is a good thing. Maybe it will finally convince Korean companies to start treating/paying their players better(if the exodus already hasn't) I don't think Korea can recover from a period of chinese domination. China has more money, the same infrastructure, and elite players of its own. If China takes over it will not be a temporary reign. What are you basing this off of? The only other international esport I can think of that China is big in is Dota where they don't completely dominate even though they once did.
Even China being big in DotA is never endless reign.
Like, there were those great teams like EHOME-2010, ZSMJ's LGD, Nirvana.CN, but since that time there wasn't a single day, when China could enter any tournament being undisputed #1, outside of TI2.
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wait is this the same mystic as the korean jin air mystic pretty boy?
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Baa?21244 Posts
On March 15 2015 05:13 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:10 Numy wrote:On March 15 2015 05:08 Maluk wrote:On March 15 2015 05:05 ketchup wrote:On March 15 2015 05:02 Maluk wrote:On March 15 2015 05:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
My god is S5 Worlds going to be a clusterfuck. China just wins at this rate lol. That is a good thing. Maybe it will finally convince Korean companies to start treating/paying their players better(if the exodus already hasn't) I don't think Korea can recover from a period of chinese domination. China has more money, the same infrastructure, and elite players of its own. If China takes over it will not be a temporary reign. What are you basing this off of? The only other international esport I can think of that China is big in is Dota where they don't completely dominate even though they once did. Even China being big in DotA is never endless reign. Like, there were those great teams like EHOME-2010, ZSMJ's LGD, Nirvana.CN, but since that day, there wasn't a single day, when China could enter any tournament being undisputed #1, outside of TI2.
TI4...? 5 Chinese teams enter, all 5 in top 8, only eliminated by other Chinese teams, got ~80% of the prize pool collectrively, CN-CN finals.
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On March 15 2015 05:14 Nos- wrote:
wait is this the same mystic as the korean jin air mystic pretty boy?
The one and only
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Let's go Spirit, shit on them!
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On March 15 2015 05:11 KissBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:04 GhandiEAGLE wrote:On March 15 2015 05:02 DystopiaX wrote:On March 15 2015 05:02 Doctorbeat wrote:On March 15 2015 05:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
My god is S5 Worlds going to be a clusterfuck. Chinese dominance might be the new fad. I mean if this is the worst LPL team clearly China gonna win everything lol I wonder if WE stays as the worst team in China after this tournament though. They're clearly looking better than they did in the LPL. Roflmao. Somebody doesn't watch LPL. WE doesn't look that much better at all. They have literally the same exact flaws. Botlane/Aluka will still get their shit pushed in all day while Spirit breaks his back hoping his midlane can show up. Xiye looks good atm but Ninja had his good days too. People just aren't willing to admit that Korea really got ravaged a lot harder with the talent departure than previously thought.
Talent departure and losing half their teams because of rule changes. Then you have a lot of talented players sitting on the bench without a team because there's no place for them and they can't even help practice.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Aluka's sion is out. RIP the dream
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Are Deficio and Sjokz dating ?
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On March 15 2015 05:13 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:10 Numy wrote:On March 15 2015 05:08 Maluk wrote:On March 15 2015 05:05 ketchup wrote:On March 15 2015 05:02 Maluk wrote:On March 15 2015 05:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
My god is S5 Worlds going to be a clusterfuck. China just wins at this rate lol. That is a good thing. Maybe it will finally convince Korean companies to start treating/paying their players better(if the exodus already hasn't) I don't think Korea can recover from a period of chinese domination. China has more money, the same infrastructure, and elite players of its own. If China takes over it will not be a temporary reign. What are you basing this off of? The only other international esport I can think of that China is big in is Dota where they don't completely dominate even though they once did. That one game clearly. If China has to buy Koreans to even have a chance at beating them then that says alot. Such as no faith in all-chinese teams.
You know, I've been reading lots of your posts in this thread and they're pretty much uninformed trash in general. The talent pool in China has never been the issue. The main issue had always been getting players to actually be motivated to put their ass in gear. Having Korean players threatening their spots and also freshen up the scene helped a lot but back in S4, EDG/OMG both had good chances against top korean teams barring SSW during their invincible period.
That being said, you're right that this is one game and overall GET is the stronger team. But you're underselling China's strength this season by a long mile.
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On March 15 2015 05:13 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:10 Numy wrote:On March 15 2015 05:08 Maluk wrote:On March 15 2015 05:05 ketchup wrote:On March 15 2015 05:02 Maluk wrote:On March 15 2015 05:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
My god is S5 Worlds going to be a clusterfuck. China just wins at this rate lol. That is a good thing. Maybe it will finally convince Korean companies to start treating/paying their players better(if the exodus already hasn't) I don't think Korea can recover from a period of chinese domination. China has more money, the same infrastructure, and elite players of its own. If China takes over it will not be a temporary reign. What are you basing this off of? The only other international esport I can think of that China is big in is Dota where they don't completely dominate even though they once did. Even China being big in DotA is never endless reign. Like, there were those great teams like EHOME-2010, ZSMJ's LGD, Nirvana.CN, but since that time there wasn't a single day, when China could enter any tournament being undisputed #1, outside of TI2.
TI4 was complete Chinese domination.
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