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On March 14 2015 23:35 Maluk wrote:
Seems like the Korean scene couldn't recover from the massive exodus. Everyone is shit except from GE Tigers now, and even the Tigers are some kind of miracle that no one can explain. I wouldn't be surprised if Korea completely loses its advantage over other countries in the near future.
I'm expecting a counter-flow back to KR next season though; not all the KR exports are happy with how their foreign adventures have turned out. and maybe KR teams will start paying their players more depending on KR's (lack of) performance at international tournaments throughout the year.
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On March 14 2015 23:35 Maluk wrote:
Seems like the Korean scene couldn't recover from the massive exodus. Everyone is shit except from GE Tigers now, and even the Tigers are some kind of miracle that no one can explain. I wouldn't be surprised if Korea completely loses its advantage over other countries in the near future.
In before C9Faker :D
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On March 14 2015 23:36 Solaris.playgu wrote:BO3
Goood gooood :D
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On March 14 2015 23:36 Kurbz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 23:35 Maluk wrote:
Seems like the Korean scene couldn't recover from the massive exodus. Everyone is shit except from GE Tigers now, and even the Tigers are some kind of miracle that no one can explain. I wouldn't be surprised if Korea completely loses its advantage over other countries in the near future. In before C9Faker :D
That team still has Balls on it.
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On March 14 2015 23:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 23:34 Mikau wrote:On March 14 2015 23:31 Kurbz wrote:
worlds this year is going to be interesting when china sends their best teams. Are we going to be looking at a chinese worlds champ? korea better step it up Let's not get ahead of ourselves. So far GET has looked immortal whenever they tried to win. They have shown cracks at some point during games but then they looked to go "fuck it, let's win" which they then did. I don't think we should assume GET can bleed before we actually see them bleeding. Well, Korean dominance is a bit overstated. If it weren't for SKT and SSW how dominant would Worlds have actually been? I mean yeah, I think NJBS and SSB were pretty good teams overall, and were favorites to win if it weren't for those teams, but they weren't gonna just shit stomp their competition. Now Korea has lost their 2 best teams and also Kakao and Rookie. It's hard to make up for that.
I dunno, KT B curbstomping IEM Katowice last year while being a total non factor in Korea makes me believe in Korean domination.
It looks like at the moment it's more GET domination than Korean domination (though it's probably hard to judge where SKT, Jin Air and Najin stand), but it will be fun to see worlds this year. Hopefully it won't be "this team will almost always" but a situation where the top tier korean and chinese teams have a good shot at winning, with maybe a TSM or Fnatic upset.
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Everyone getting too excited over bo1 results... Also I don't think ge is as dominant as ppl think but definitely strongest in this tournament.
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On March 14 2015 23:41 KissBlade wrote:
Everyone getting too excited over bo1 results... Also I don't think ge is as dominant as ppl think but definitely strongest in this tournament.
In 2015 they are 22-2.
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On March 14 2015 23:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 23:34 Mikau wrote:On March 14 2015 23:31 Kurbz wrote:
worlds this year is going to be interesting when china sends their best teams. Are we going to be looking at a chinese worlds champ? korea better step it up Let's not get ahead of ourselves. So far GET has looked immortal whenever they tried to win. They have shown cracks at some point during games but then they looked to go "fuck it, let's win" which they then did. I don't think we should assume GET can bleed before we actually see them bleeding. Well, Korean dominance is a bit overstated. If it weren't for SKT and SSW how dominant would Worlds have actually been? I mean yeah, I think NJBS and SSB were pretty good teams overall, and were favorites to win if it weren't for those teams, but they weren't gonna just shit stomp their competition. Now Korea has lost their 2 best teams and also Kakao and Rookie. It's hard to make up for that.
Depends on what you mean by dominance, a korean team has won basically every tournament they've participated in since Season 3. But yes, the thing with korea is that there this is always this 1 godlike team that is way ahead of the rest it seems.
Also i'd say overall that top 2 in each region is ahead of its competition by quite a large margin
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On March 14 2015 23:40 Mikau wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 23:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:On March 14 2015 23:34 Mikau wrote:On March 14 2015 23:31 Kurbz wrote:
worlds this year is going to be interesting when china sends their best teams. Are we going to be looking at a chinese worlds champ? korea better step it up Let's not get ahead of ourselves. So far GET has looked immortal whenever they tried to win. They have shown cracks at some point during games but then they looked to go "fuck it, let's win" which they then did. I don't think we should assume GET can bleed before we actually see them bleeding. Well, Korean dominance is a bit overstated. If it weren't for SKT and SSW how dominant would Worlds have actually been? I mean yeah, I think NJBS and SSB were pretty good teams overall, and were favorites to win if it weren't for those teams, but they weren't gonna just shit stomp their competition. Now Korea has lost their 2 best teams and also Kakao and Rookie. It's hard to make up for that. I dunno, KT B curbstomping IEM Katowice last year while being a total non factor in Korea makes me believe in Korean domination. It looks like at the moment it's more GET domination than Korean domination (though it's probably hard to judge where SKT, Jin Air and Najin stand), but it will be fun to see worlds this year. Hopefully it won't be "this team will almost always" but a situation where the top tier korean and chinese teams have a good shot at winning, with maybe a TSM or Fnatic upset.
KT B winning IEM was mostly just being ahead of the meta and strategy. Rest of the world has caught up significantly since then in those departments. I don't see a bottom place OGN team being able to repeat that again.
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I think China > NA > Korea > EU
EU LCS kinda shows how weak eu teams are.
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On March 14 2015 23:41 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 23:41 KissBlade wrote:
Everyone getting too excited over bo1 results... Also I don't think ge is as dominant as ppl think but definitely strongest in this tournament. In 2015 they are 22-2.
Don't suppose you have SKT T1 K and SSW stats from their respective S3 and S4 Spring Split performances handy? Would like to know if GET is more or less dominant than these teams were.
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On March 14 2015 23:40 Mikau wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 23:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:On March 14 2015 23:34 Mikau wrote:On March 14 2015 23:31 Kurbz wrote:
worlds this year is going to be interesting when china sends their best teams. Are we going to be looking at a chinese worlds champ? korea better step it up Let's not get ahead of ourselves. So far GET has looked immortal whenever they tried to win. They have shown cracks at some point during games but then they looked to go "fuck it, let's win" which they then did. I don't think we should assume GET can bleed before we actually see them bleeding. Well, Korean dominance is a bit overstated. If it weren't for SKT and SSW how dominant would Worlds have actually been? I mean yeah, I think NJBS and SSB were pretty good teams overall, and were favorites to win if it weren't for those teams, but they weren't gonna just shit stomp their competition. Now Korea has lost their 2 best teams and also Kakao and Rookie. It's hard to make up for that. I dunno, KT B curbstomping IEM Katowice last year while being a total non factor in Korea makes me believe in Korean domination. It looks like at the moment it's more GET domination than Korean domination (though it's probably hard to judge where SKT, Jin Air and Najin stand), but it will be fun to see worlds this year. Hopefully it won't be "this team will almost always" but a situation where the top tier korean and chinese teams have a good shot at winning, with maybe a TSM or Fnatic upset.
Najin are really bad, but SKT would definitely play better then CJ has and Jin Air is impossible to say, Jin Air either looks incredibly good or really bad IMO
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On March 14 2015 23:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 23:40 Mikau wrote:On March 14 2015 23:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:On March 14 2015 23:34 Mikau wrote:On March 14 2015 23:31 Kurbz wrote:
worlds this year is going to be interesting when china sends their best teams. Are we going to be looking at a chinese worlds champ? korea better step it up Let's not get ahead of ourselves. So far GET has looked immortal whenever they tried to win. They have shown cracks at some point during games but then they looked to go "fuck it, let's win" which they then did. I don't think we should assume GET can bleed before we actually see them bleeding. Well, Korean dominance is a bit overstated. If it weren't for SKT and SSW how dominant would Worlds have actually been? I mean yeah, I think NJBS and SSB were pretty good teams overall, and were favorites to win if it weren't for those teams, but they weren't gonna just shit stomp their competition. Now Korea has lost their 2 best teams and also Kakao and Rookie. It's hard to make up for that. I dunno, KT B curbstomping IEM Katowice last year while being a total non factor in Korea makes me believe in Korean domination. It looks like at the moment it's more GET domination than Korean domination (though it's probably hard to judge where SKT, Jin Air and Najin stand), but it will be fun to see worlds this year. Hopefully it won't be "this team will almost always" but a situation where the top tier korean and chinese teams have a good shot at winning, with maybe a TSM or Fnatic upset. KT B winning IEM was mostly just being ahead of the meta and strategy. Rest of the world has caught up significantly since then in those departments. I don't see a bottom place OGN team being able to repeat that again.
I agree, but the poster I quoted mentioned Korean dominance historically (in the absense of SKT T1 K and SSW), so I was responding to that.
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On March 14 2015 23:45 Mensol wrote:
I think China > NA > Korea > EU
EU LCS kinda shows how weak eu teams are.
What..? How in the world is NA ahead of Korea, NA has arguably 2 good teams which are TSM and CLG and we havent seen CLG play in a tournament with their current roster and they just crumbled vs TSM for no reason.
While Korea atleast has SKT, Jin Air + ofc GE Tigers
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On March 14 2015 23:45 Mikau wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 23:41 Ansibled wrote:On March 14 2015 23:41 KissBlade wrote:
Everyone getting too excited over bo1 results... Also I don't think ge is as dominant as ppl think but definitely strongest in this tournament. In 2015 they are 22-2. Don't suppose you have SKT T1 K and SSW stats from their respective S3 and S4 Spring Split performances handy? Would like to know if GET is more or less dominant than these teams were.
Probably more dominant considering the strength of competition was WAY higher. All teams had sister teams and the power shift was pretty crazy with top tier teams being pushed down to make way for better talents. Also SSW had a pretty big slump for a while until the Dade/Pawn exchange happened. SSB consistently beat out SSW in OGN and SSW weren't even dominant in 2014 overall.
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If Spirit can show up instead of did not do anything in the early game, WE can have a chance against fking GE Tiger!!!!!!!
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On March 14 2015 23:47 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 23:45 Mensol wrote:
I think China > NA > Korea > EU
EU LCS kinda shows how weak eu teams are. What..? How in the world is NA ahead of Korea, NA has arguably 2 good teams which are TSM and CLG and we havent seen CLG play in a tournament with their current roster and they just crumbled vs TSM for no reason. While Korea atleast has SKT, Jin Air + ofc GE Tigers
Mensol is just a troll.
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On March 14 2015 23:41 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 23:41 KissBlade wrote:
Everyone getting too excited over bo1 results... Also I don't think ge is as dominant as ppl think but definitely strongest in this tournament. In 2015 they are 22-2.
Their competition is weaker comparatively. I think ge is still among top world but I can see edg beating them bo5.
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On March 14 2015 23:48 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 23:47 Thinasy wrote:On March 14 2015 23:45 Mensol wrote:
I think China > NA > Korea > EU
EU LCS kinda shows how weak eu teams are. What..? How in the world is NA ahead of Korea, NA has arguably 2 good teams which are TSM and CLG and we havent seen CLG play in a tournament with their current roster and they just crumbled vs TSM for no reason. While Korea atleast has SKT, Jin Air + ofc GE Tigers Mensol is just a troll.
It's really hard to tell sometimes around here
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On March 14 2015 23:49 KissBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 23:41 Ansibled wrote:On March 14 2015 23:41 KissBlade wrote:
Everyone getting too excited over bo1 results... Also I don't think ge is as dominant as ppl think but definitely strongest in this tournament. In 2015 they are 22-2. Their competition is weaker comparatively. I think ge is still among top world but I can see edg beating them bo5.
EDG is all about Koro and Deft, if Koro has bad game, EDG are just sending all eggs in same basket, because PawN basically went back to his MVP/Samsung Blue/not-Worlds Samsung White form.
And it's really early to call it, when we don't even know, how many Koreans are going to stay in LPL before Summer season.
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