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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 20 2015 19:04 GMT
#221
lmfoa

Did Overpow just say Kev1n's laning phase as bad as Youngbuck? l o l.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
February 20 2015 19:04 GMT
#222
On February 21 2015 04:01 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 03:59 MajorityofOne wrote:
On February 21 2015 03:56 AlterKot wrote:
I'm still pretty confident that Thorin doesn't know shit about League and bases his opinions on KDA and hearsay.

Welp ROC finally had a good game, let's see if they can translate that against non-trash teams.

I like Thorin and think he's pretty smart in general, but he's definitely got some ridiculous biases.

I'm not saying he's dumb, I like him a lot. Heck, I actually think he said nothing wrong about Poland and Regi. I just think he doesn't know much about League, and definitely isn't an expert he acts like. But then Monte seems to like working with him and agrees on stuff so I dunno.


Thorin's strengths come from his extensive background in esports in general, mostly Counterstrike which is also a team game. He's considered one of the foremost CS experts.

His League knowledge isn't as extensive as his CS knowledge, which leads to occasionally stupid opinions, but he has good points (watch his thoughts on the Wickd-kev1n swap, IMO he nails the main problems with Elements and what they need to do).
SUNSFANNED
Lost My Will To Live
Profile Joined October 2014
Botswana601 Posts
February 20 2015 19:04 GMT
#223
0-5-0 better bench Wickd. AHAHAHAHA
I am who you think I am
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
February 20 2015 19:04 GMT
#224
On February 21 2015 03:59 BrownBear wrote:
Predicting by tomorrow there's a reddit thread calling for Elements to bench Kev1n and bring back Wickd.


Piglet is pretty much a free agent atm. maybe he wants to play toplane in elements.
Science>Mechanics
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 20 2015 19:05 GMT
#225
On February 21 2015 04:03 MajorityofOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 04:00 Fusilero wrote:
Yeah but thorin always pisses on the uzi hype train so he's top-3 analyst for me


That he left Uzi off his 20 greatest players list....kind of hard to agree with that omission imo, not really an Uzi fan but he's been the focal point on two worlds finalists. Its not like he's been some scrub in his LPL games either so I really don't get it

Oh ye off top-20 is a bit much but he's overhyped because people never take into account just how out of their minds whit3zz and insec played during uzi's worlds runs
Glorious SEA doto
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
February 20 2015 19:05 GMT
#226
On February 21 2015 04:04 TitusVI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 03:59 BrownBear wrote:
Predicting by tomorrow there's a reddit thread calling for Elements to bench Kev1n and bring back Wickd.


Piglet is pretty much a free agent atm. maybe he wants to play toplane in elements.


Giant ego? Individual skill but complete disregard for teamplay? I'm surprised Froggen hasn't already sent him the invite.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 20 2015 19:06 GMT
#227
On February 21 2015 04:04 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 04:01 AlterKot wrote:
On February 21 2015 03:59 MajorityofOne wrote:
On February 21 2015 03:56 AlterKot wrote:
I'm still pretty confident that Thorin doesn't know shit about League and bases his opinions on KDA and hearsay.

Welp ROC finally had a good game, let's see if they can translate that against non-trash teams.

I like Thorin and think he's pretty smart in general, but he's definitely got some ridiculous biases.

I'm not saying he's dumb, I like him a lot. Heck, I actually think he said nothing wrong about Poland and Regi. I just think he doesn't know much about League, and definitely isn't an expert he acts like. But then Monte seems to like working with him and agrees on stuff so I dunno.


Thorin's strengths come from his extensive background in esports in general, mostly Counterstrike which is also a team game. He's considered one of the foremost CS experts.

His League knowledge isn't as extensive as his CS knowledge, which leads to occasionally stupid opinions, but he has good points (watch his thoughts on the Wickd-kev1n swap, IMO he nails the main problems with Elements and what they need to do).


The problem is even when he has good points he tends to say something blatantly dumb that just nullifies his point. Even in that Wickd-Kev1n thing he said a lot of good but then he gushes over Kev1n. Same with the ROC pre-season. He gushes over Nukeduck so hard yet the guy has been irrelevant for almost 2 years. Maybe if he just didn't speak about individual players he'd be better off since the huge bias wouldn't happen.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 20 2015 19:06 GMT
#228
On February 21 2015 04:04 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 04:01 AlterKot wrote:
On February 21 2015 03:59 MajorityofOne wrote:
On February 21 2015 03:56 AlterKot wrote:
I'm still pretty confident that Thorin doesn't know shit about League and bases his opinions on KDA and hearsay.

Welp ROC finally had a good game, let's see if they can translate that against non-trash teams.

I like Thorin and think he's pretty smart in general, but he's definitely got some ridiculous biases.

I'm not saying he's dumb, I like him a lot. Heck, I actually think he said nothing wrong about Poland and Regi. I just think he doesn't know much about League, and definitely isn't an expert he acts like. But then Monte seems to like working with him and agrees on stuff so I dunno.

Thorin's strengths come from his extensive background in esports in general, mostly Counterstrike which is also a team game. He's considered one of the foremost CS experts.

His League knowledge isn't as extensive as his CS knowledge, which leads to occasionally stupid opinions, but he has good points (watch his thoughts on the Wickd-kev1n swap, IMO he nails the main problems with Elements and what they need to do).

I did watch that and you are right, altough I thought that a lot of people had similar opinion and it's just that he's the one who was able to explain it well. I respect his interviewing craft, I respect his knowledge about team dynamics, I don't respect his knowledge about League of Legends and what makes a player/team good :p
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21687 Posts
February 20 2015 19:06 GMT
#229
On February 21 2015 04:00 Radoq wrote:
Super team my ass, only huge egos from previous years.

Pretty much why I like to see Alliance/Elements lose
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
February 20 2015 19:07 GMT
#230
On February 21 2015 04:01 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 03:59 MajorityofOne wrote:
On February 21 2015 03:56 AlterKot wrote:
I'm still pretty confident that Thorin doesn't know shit about League and bases his opinions on KDA and hearsay.

Welp ROC finally had a good game, let's see if they can translate that against non-trash teams.

I like Thorin and think he's pretty smart in general, but he's definitely got some ridiculous biases.

I'm not saying he's dumb, I like him a lot. Heck, I actually think he said nothing wrong about Poland and Regi. I just think he doesn't know much about League, and definitely isn't an expert he acts like. But then Monte seems to like working with him and agrees on stuff so I dunno.


I'd agree that his knowledge about league isn't that great. I think he's got more of a grasp on competition and analyzing peoples achievements as a whole, whereas his understanding of league specifically is pretty meh. Monte usually makes up for that shortcoming IMO except when he lets himself get swept up in Thorin's biases, AKA the eternal Froggen and Flame hype train.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 20 2015 19:07 GMT
#231
was not around for draft so I'm not sure of the order but drafting double ad into double trinity seems pretty dumb idk
Carrilord has arrived.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
February 20 2015 19:08 GMT
#232
I'm a little behind on watching the game, but damn, Elements was so underwhelming
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
February 20 2015 19:09 GMT
#233
On February 21 2015 04:05 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 04:03 MajorityofOne wrote:
On February 21 2015 04:00 Fusilero wrote:
Yeah but thorin always pisses on the uzi hype train so he's top-3 analyst for me


That he left Uzi off his 20 greatest players list....kind of hard to agree with that omission imo, not really an Uzi fan but he's been the focal point on two worlds finalists. Its not like he's been some scrub in his LPL games either so I really don't get it

Oh ye off top-20 is a bit much but he's overhyped because people never take into account just how out of their minds whit3zz and insec played during uzi's worlds runs


Def agree on whit3zz and Insec getting overlooked. Especially Insec actually, I think people were just soooooo ready with the narrative of him being washed up and SHRC basically being his retirement home last year that they had a hard time accepting he was playing at a really really high level.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 20 2015 19:09 GMT
#234
On February 21 2015 04:06 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 04:00 Radoq wrote:
Super team my ass, only huge egos from previous years.

Pretty much why I like to see Alliance/Elements lose


I'm really close on saying fuck it and finding another team to be a fan of.

I started with SK back in the day with Wickd and Froggen, then CLG.eu, EG, ALL, all the way through. I didn't like the Shook pickup (as a personality) so that was already a black mark but the current situation makes me like them even less.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
February 20 2015 19:09 GMT
#235
On February 21 2015 04:06 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 04:04 BrownBear wrote:
On February 21 2015 04:01 AlterKot wrote:
On February 21 2015 03:59 MajorityofOne wrote:
On February 21 2015 03:56 AlterKot wrote:
I'm still pretty confident that Thorin doesn't know shit about League and bases his opinions on KDA and hearsay.

Welp ROC finally had a good game, let's see if they can translate that against non-trash teams.

I like Thorin and think he's pretty smart in general, but he's definitely got some ridiculous biases.

I'm not saying he's dumb, I like him a lot. Heck, I actually think he said nothing wrong about Poland and Regi. I just think he doesn't know much about League, and definitely isn't an expert he acts like. But then Monte seems to like working with him and agrees on stuff so I dunno.

Thorin's strengths come from his extensive background in esports in general, mostly Counterstrike which is also a team game. He's considered one of the foremost CS experts.

His League knowledge isn't as extensive as his CS knowledge, which leads to occasionally stupid opinions, but he has good points (watch his thoughts on the Wickd-kev1n swap, IMO he nails the main problems with Elements and what they need to do).

I did watch that and you are right, altough I thought that a lot of people had similar opinion and it's just that he's the one who was able to explain it well. I respect his interviewing craft, I respect his knowledge about team dynamics, I don't respect his knowledge about League of Legends and what makes a player/team good :p


Yea, I think you hit the nail on the head. Ideally, Monte's knowledge base about League would synergize well with Thorin's knowledge base about teamplay and esports in general. Kinda sad it doesn't work out that way.
SUNSFANNED
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 20 2015 19:10 GMT
#236
He talked about WoW.

FINE THAT MAN

Lols
DNeon
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia203 Posts
February 20 2015 19:11 GMT
#237
'How did you get your nickname?'

'My brother'
OCE: Legacy - LMS: AHQ - LCK: ROX Tigers - NA: Echo Fox - EU: Giants - LPL: I May
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 19:15:31
February 20 2015 19:14 GMT
#238
Alright bubs time to secure 3rd spot and next week go for top2!

On February 21 2015 04:09 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 04:06 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 21 2015 04:00 Radoq wrote:
Super team my ass, only huge egos from previous years.

Pretty much why I like to see Alliance/Elements lose


I'm really close on saying fuck it and finding another team to be a fan of.

I started with SK back in the day with Wickd and Froggen, then CLG.eu, EG, ALL, all the way through. I didn't like the Shook pickup (as a personality) so that was already a black mark but the current situation makes me like them even less.

Wolves caravan is still pretty empty :>
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
seenster
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany385 Posts
February 20 2015 19:15 GMT
#239
On February 21 2015 04:14 AlterKot wrote:
Alright bubs time to secure 3rd spot and next week go for top2!

better change your flair.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
February 20 2015 19:16 GMT
#240
On February 21 2015 04:09 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 04:06 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 21 2015 04:00 Radoq wrote:
Super team my ass, only huge egos from previous years.

Pretty much why I like to see Alliance/Elements lose


I'm really close on saying fuck it and finding another team to be a fan of.

I started with SK back in the day with Wickd and Froggen, then CLG.eu, EG, ALL, all the way through. I didn't like the Shook pickup (as a personality) so that was already a black mark but the current situation makes me like them even less.

Dropping Krepo for Nyph was the turning point for me. :-/
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
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