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terialk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States770 Posts
April 14 2015 16:26 GMT
#2061
On April 14 2015 23:19 orzeu wrote:
Who is EDG shotcaller? Clearlove?


Yeah, EDG's main shotcaller is Clearlove. I hope U doesn't get too much flame since he wasn't supposed to play and had no prep basically.
"This is not the beginning of an end. Instead, it is the end of a beginning." // Little Sprite Fan :D // Never go full China. // At least NA won at Dota 2.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
April 14 2015 17:02 GMT
#2062
I thought U did alright. EDG just looked bad in coordination tbh. They should've had game 4 pretty handily IMO.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 14 2015 17:12 GMT
#2063
EDG best hope Pawn isn't in and out of hospitals for the rest of the season, because they're going to get rekt in LPL and MSI otherwise.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
April 14 2015 17:21 GMT
#2064
U is getting a lot of love on Chinese forums and Clearlove is getting a lotof flak for apparently flaming U to the verge of tears after game 4 lol.
TranslatorBaa!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 14 2015 17:41 GMT
#2065
On April 14 2015 22:32 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 22:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 14 2015 22:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 14 2015 22:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 14 2015 22:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 14 2015 22:24 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 14 2015 22:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Clearlove did not do anything with U in the past 4 games. Now Clearlove and pawn are wrecking WE, even in team fights. The synergy is real


That's LimpingGoat tier of being delusional, I swear.
8 domestic titles last year never happened, am I right, Clearlove/U?

I'm just stating what happened the past 4 games. What did U and Clearlove do together? Nothing. In 4 games. Nothing.


Because Clearlove wants to farm jungle and Meiko stays botlane 80% of time, what is U supposed to do.
He killed mid/jungle twice last game to give EDG everything, what did Clearlove do with it? Nothing.

It's not like there is some fucking mysterious synergy between PawN and Clearlove which carries EDG.
PawN is placeholder when EDG is playing to at least more than 50% potential.

There IS MUCH more synergy between Pawn and Clearlove. Are you just not accepting anything Clearlove and Pawn have done in comparison to how U and Clearlove have played? Did you watch Demacia cup at all? Nvm, probably not, but watch iG vs. EDG and how much Pawn and Clearlove are pressuring the map and controlling the game together.


Why am I even getting bothered by this ~_~.
One day people will understand that Clearlove and his support, be it Fzzf or Meiko are controlling games, not Clearlove and mid.

On April 14 2015 22:28 Mensol wrote:
On April 14 2015 22:24 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 14 2015 22:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Clearlove did not do anything with U in the past 4 games. Now Clearlove and pawn are wrecking WE, even in team fights. The synergy is real


That's LimpingGoat tier of being delusional, I swear.
8 domestic titles last year never happened, am I right, Clearlove/U?

l o l LimpingGoat isnt delusional. WE got 3-0'd by TSM and now WE almost beat EDG in BO5.

stop firing shots blindly.


*slowly clapping*


What did Meiko do this game except go 0-2? Pawn and Clearlove immediately collapsed on Spirit to punish him and then roamed bot together to find a kill onto Aluka. This game was all Pawn and Clearlove. Clearlove and Meiko played like shit because they can't do anything with no mid laner and a mid laner who goes to passive early game picks like Orianna, and fucking Galio. You could tell just from picks they wanted U to be quiet this series and just try to carry the game themselves.

I don't even want to begin to explain how much better Pawn plays teamfights.


I also don't understand this irrational clearlove love. Pawn snowballed the game when he spotted Spirit's invade (without wards). That was literally the play that made the comp, which was losing the 2v2 (and needed a good midgame), strong enough to snowball the midgame teamfights. The teamfights that clearlove happened to get a lot of kills in.
Freeeeeeedom
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 17:48:51
April 14 2015 17:48 GMT
#2066
Except for in Game 1, U played selfishly and without a clue as to what to do in team fights. The Game 3 pick was bizarre and a case of not understanding how narrow the match up was when Pawn isn't there. Clearlove's flaming, while not warranted because he himself didn't perform all that well, was nonetheless on the mark.

It's also an emphatic statement about just how badly EDG needed those imports. With U and Namei, they'd have been at the bottom of LPL this season, judging by how those players are playing.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
April 14 2015 17:48 GMT
#2067
On April 15 2015 02:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
U is getting a lot of love on Chinese forums and Clearlove is getting a lotof flak for apparently flaming U to the verge of tears after game 4 lol.


Lol the true reason for Pawn's substitution. Any good translation quotes?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 14 2015 17:52 GMT
#2068
I only watched muted while in class, but did they bring in Pawn from the gaming house or was he really in hospital?
LimpingGoat
Profile Joined January 2015
898 Posts
April 14 2015 18:01 GMT
#2069
On April 14 2015 22:52 MajorityofOne wrote:
EDG didnt learn from GE, don't try to style on WE

EDG is probably going to need Pawn to actually win this LPL, would EDG with U be able to handle IG/VG winner?


You think EDG was styling? I don't.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 20:14:39
April 14 2015 20:14 GMT
#2070
http://www.thescoreesports.com/news/1216
So yeah snake wins LPL cya at worlds folks have fun with the MSI trophy TSM/SKT
Glorious SEA doto
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
April 14 2015 20:20 GMT
#2071
On April 15 2015 02:48 Azarkon wrote:
Except for in Game 1, U played selfishly and without a clue as to what to do in team fights. The Game 3 pick was bizarre and a case of not understanding how narrow the match up was when Pawn isn't there. Clearlove's flaming, while not warranted because he himself didn't perform all that well, was nonetheless on the mark.

It's also an emphatic statement about just how badly EDG needed those imports. With U and Namei, they'd have been at the bottom of LPL this season, judging by how those players are playing.


Of course they are gonna be much worse without a top 2 mid in the world and sub in someone who has not been practicing with the team for half a year now. But that doesn't mean EDG would suck had they retained U and Namei. They won't reach where they are today, but they will still be a solid mid-high tier team. You need to realize U and Namei individually are very good players, but the synergy would be completely lost after so long.

It's like saying TSM without the imports Bjergsen and Lustboy would be bottom team in NA LCS. It's not a fair conclusion to draw at all, even though NA is a much weaker region.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 14 2015 20:23 GMT
#2072
On April 15 2015 05:14 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.thescoreesports.com/news/1216
So yeah snake wins LPL cya at worlds folks have fun with the MSI trophy TSM/SKT

plz, do you not believe in our lord, snake?
liftlift > tsm
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 20:54:49
April 14 2015 20:48 GMT
#2073
On April 15 2015 05:20 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 02:48 Azarkon wrote:
Except for in Game 1, U played selfishly and without a clue as to what to do in team fights. The Game 3 pick was bizarre and a case of not understanding how narrow the match up was when Pawn isn't there. Clearlove's flaming, while not warranted because he himself didn't perform all that well, was nonetheless on the mark.

It's also an emphatic statement about just how badly EDG needed those imports. With U and Namei, they'd have been at the bottom of LPL this season, judging by how those players are playing.


Of course they are gonna be much worse without a top 2 mid in the world and sub in someone who has not been practicing with the team for half a year now. But that doesn't mean EDG would suck had they retained U and Namei. They won't reach where they are today, but they will still be a solid mid-high tier team. You need to realize U and Namei individually are very good players, but the synergy would be completely lost after so long.

It's like saying TSM without the imports Bjergsen and Lustboy would be bottom team in NA LCS. It's not a fair conclusion to draw at all, even though NA is a much weaker region.


U and Namei were serviceable back when LPL was entirely Chinese except for SHRC, and the best mid - Cool - was MIA for a whole split, and barely coming into form the next. This year, with all the top tier Koreans joining, they'd have been rekt. Bottom of LPL is a bit of an exaggeration but they'd have their hands full making playoffs.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 14 2015 20:54 GMT
#2074
Not sure how much of a dramatic spin the edg coach put in his post but if this is true then Pawn is a fucking legend.
After seeing Edward Gaming lose their first game, pawN asked to be rushed to the stadium from the hospital, saying that "EDG needs me." San Shao did not want to force him to play through his pain, but pawN performed exceptionally, bringing tears to his eyes.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 20:59:10
April 14 2015 20:55 GMT
#2075
On April 15 2015 03:01 LimpingGoat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 22:52 MajorityofOne wrote:
EDG didnt learn from GE, don't try to style on WE

EDG is probably going to need Pawn to actually win this LPL, would EDG with U be able to handle IG/VG winner?


You think EDG was styling? I don't.


Galio was pure styling. Game 4 wasn't styling, but there should never have been a game 4 to begin with.

I wonder if EDG is going to start U again and only play Pawn if pushed to the limit, or will the apparent Clearlove-U rage mean we see Pawn back fully despite his illness?

EDIT: Hadnt seen the article on Pawn. Doesnt sound good for EDG. This just made the LPL playoffs more interesting though, EDG is mortal now.

Also, this fits into my "TSM wins MSI by ducking EDG" scenario so perfectly that I feel like I almost played a hand in it happening >.>
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 21:09:20
April 14 2015 20:57 GMT
#2076
On April 15 2015 05:54 AsnSensation wrote:
Not sure how much of a dramatic spin the edg coach put in his post but if this is true then Pawn is a fucking legend.
Show nested quote +
After seeing Edward Gaming lose their first game, pawN asked to be rushed to the stadium from the hospital, saying that "EDG needs me." San Shao did not want to force him to play through his pain, but pawN performed exceptionally, bringing tears to his eyes.


SanShao doesn't have the best reputation when it comes to, uhm, reporting things 100% factually.

Pawn is sugoi though.
TranslatorBaa!
Project Yasuo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States153 Posts
April 14 2015 21:10 GMT
#2077
On April 15 2015 05:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 05:54 AsnSensation wrote:
Not sure how much of a dramatic spin the edg coach put in his post but if this is true then Pawn is a fucking legend.
After seeing Edward Gaming lose their first game, pawN asked to be rushed to the stadium from the hospital, saying that "EDG needs me." San Shao did not want to force him to play through his pain, but pawN performed exceptionally, bringing tears to his eyes.


SanShao doesn't have the best reputation when it comes to, uhm, reporting things 100% factually.

Pawn is sugoi though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NFz--shOA8


How can one Pawn be so based?
Royal Never Gives Up
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
April 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#2078
On April 15 2015 05:48 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 05:20 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On April 15 2015 02:48 Azarkon wrote:
Except for in Game 1, U played selfishly and without a clue as to what to do in team fights. The Game 3 pick was bizarre and a case of not understanding how narrow the match up was when Pawn isn't there. Clearlove's flaming, while not warranted because he himself didn't perform all that well, was nonetheless on the mark.

It's also an emphatic statement about just how badly EDG needed those imports. With U and Namei, they'd have been at the bottom of LPL this season, judging by how those players are playing.


Of course they are gonna be much worse without a top 2 mid in the world and sub in someone who has not been practicing with the team for half a year now. But that doesn't mean EDG would suck had they retained U and Namei. They won't reach where they are today, but they will still be a solid mid-high tier team. You need to realize U and Namei individually are very good players, but the synergy would be completely lost after so long.

It's like saying TSM without the imports Bjergsen and Lustboy would be bottom team in NA LCS. It's not a fair conclusion to draw at all, even though NA is a much weaker region.


U and Namei were serviceable back when LPL was entirely Chinese except for SHRC, and the best mid - Cool - was MIA for a whole split, and barely coming into form the next. This year, with all the top tier Koreans joining, they'd have been rekt. Bottom of LPL is a bit of an exaggeration but they'd have their hands full making playoffs.



U didn't realize he would be playing until literally this morning before the match. He had not been scrimming with the team and the mid-jungle synergy is almost non-existent. But you can clearly see he still got the mechanics when he solo killed Xiye AND Spirit with Orianna.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 14 2015 21:18 GMT
#2079
On April 15 2015 06:10 Project Yasuo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 05:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On April 15 2015 05:54 AsnSensation wrote:
Not sure how much of a dramatic spin the edg coach put in his post but if this is true then Pawn is a fucking legend.
After seeing Edward Gaming lose their first game, pawN asked to be rushed to the stadium from the hospital, saying that "EDG needs me." San Shao did not want to force him to play through his pain, but pawN performed exceptionally, bringing tears to his eyes.


SanShao doesn't have the best reputation when it comes to, uhm, reporting things 100% factually.

Pawn is sugoi though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NFz--shOA8


How can one Pawn be so based?

because when he reaches into the otherside of the board, he becomes a queen.
liftlift > tsm
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
April 14 2015 21:47 GMT
#2080
On April 15 2015 06:17 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 05:48 Azarkon wrote:
On April 15 2015 05:20 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On April 15 2015 02:48 Azarkon wrote:
Except for in Game 1, U played selfishly and without a clue as to what to do in team fights. The Game 3 pick was bizarre and a case of not understanding how narrow the match up was when Pawn isn't there. Clearlove's flaming, while not warranted because he himself didn't perform all that well, was nonetheless on the mark.

It's also an emphatic statement about just how badly EDG needed those imports. With U and Namei, they'd have been at the bottom of LPL this season, judging by how those players are playing.


Of course they are gonna be much worse without a top 2 mid in the world and sub in someone who has not been practicing with the team for half a year now. But that doesn't mean EDG would suck had they retained U and Namei. They won't reach where they are today, but they will still be a solid mid-high tier team. You need to realize U and Namei individually are very good players, but the synergy would be completely lost after so long.

It's like saying TSM without the imports Bjergsen and Lustboy would be bottom team in NA LCS. It's not a fair conclusion to draw at all, even though NA is a much weaker region.


U and Namei were serviceable back when LPL was entirely Chinese except for SHRC, and the best mid - Cool - was MIA for a whole split, and barely coming into form the next. This year, with all the top tier Koreans joining, they'd have been rekt. Bottom of LPL is a bit of an exaggeration but they'd have their hands full making playoffs.



U didn't realize he would be playing until literally this morning before the match. He had not been scrimming with the team and the mid-jungle synergy is almost non-existent. But you can clearly see he still got the mechanics when he solo killed Xiye AND Spirit with Orianna.


Yeah U playing on such short notice is really impressive. But he's a downgrade from Pawn even at his best. If IG advances vs VG he'll probably struggle against the likes of Rookie. But if he's facing VG and he's fully practiced than EDG should be favored.

Its pretty crazy that nobody got U from EDG while he was on the bench, and pretty shrewd (or maybe just lucky?) of EDG to have not sold him.
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