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On September 25 2014 23:37 vthree wrote:
Errr.. Why does EU LCS get automatic spots at World again? It is funny to remember people saying they need to take away open qualifier/Taiwan spots to give Korea so we can see the best teams. Might as well take away all 3 EU spots.
Haha talk about an overreaction. I expect Fnatic and Alliance to both step up as the group stage goes on
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On September 25 2014 23:42 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:36 Sleight wrote:On September 25 2014 23:34 Kupon3ss wrote:
USA USA USA Exactly. Fucking NA pride. LMQ giving the Frenchies some Freedom Pie. Woah there. Some of us don't like Fnatic in case you didn't notice. 
Sorry. The only team I despise more than TSM is Fnatic. My 'Murica slipped out. It's easy to fallback on the French-bashing anytime someone shuts up Peke and Soaz.
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On September 25 2014 23:44 Sleight wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:42 Alaric wrote:On September 25 2014 23:36 Sleight wrote:On September 25 2014 23:34 Kupon3ss wrote:
USA USA USA Exactly. Fucking NA pride. LMQ giving the Frenchies some Freedom Pie. Woah there. Some of us don't like Fnatic in case you didn't notice. Sorry. The only team I despise more than TSM is Fnatic. My 'Murica slipped out. It's easy to fallback on the French-bashing anytime someone shuts up Peke and Soaz.
peke is Spanish though?
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On September 25 2014 23:39 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:34 TitusVI wrote:
EU LCS has a serious problem. It is too weak. I think the style of play is just too passive. It's always been passive but with C9's rise and later the arrival of LMQ the one region EU could consistently bully now plays aggressive and seizes objectives. EU teams seem to just play like they're up against other EU teams who just wait for mid/late game. To make it worse the one aggressive EU, Gambit, completely imploded so now every team in EU is content to be passive. Of course it's only day 1 of C&D so maybe ALL and FNC are just having a rough start.
Other regions learn to go aggressive but calculated so they win more then they loose. Be aggressive in the right moment.
Europe barely goes aggressive because they don't do it and if they do the chance is higher to loose more then you gain.
Also its like EU LCS is in some kind of peacemode with each other. Everything is good how it is and let the riot money come in. (challenger teams arent a threat anyway.)
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On September 25 2014 23:44 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:44 Sleight wrote:On September 25 2014 23:42 Alaric wrote:On September 25 2014 23:36 Sleight wrote:On September 25 2014 23:34 Kupon3ss wrote:
USA USA USA Exactly. Fucking NA pride. LMQ giving the Frenchies some Freedom Pie. Woah there. Some of us don't like Fnatic in case you didn't notice. Sorry. The only team I despise more than TSM is Fnatic. My 'Murica slipped out. It's easy to fallback on the French-bashing anytime someone shuts up Peke and Soaz. peke is Spanish though?
Shhhhhhhhh, no logic is allowed in the Freedom Pie.
But WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT, C9! :D Yesss, best result I could've woken up to. 
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Also, that single Ackerman harpoon on Rekkles probably saved them a pentakill and the game, despite LMQ outplaying Fnatic completely past the 10 minute mark. Tristana such a bullshit champion.
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On September 25 2014 23:41 las91 wrote:
Europe getting exposed.
but eu is also notorious for having terrible starts into tournaments but then doing alright, especially fnatic.
anyway, these two groups are really exciting (minus wildcard).
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On September 25 2014 23:41 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:40 Kavas wrote:On September 25 2014 23:37 Yorkie wrote:On September 25 2014 23:36 nafta wrote:On September 25 2014 23:34 BrownBear wrote:
So LMQ officially surprise of the tournament. Holy shit this group is even more the Group of Death now. how is it a group of death when lmq and blue look like clear favourites lol Well previously the assumption was that LMQ was the clear 4th place team. Now with them playing so well, it means the overall strength of the group has increased from what was predicted Or Fnatic was overhyped as nuts. OMG was expected to struggle. Their support was almost Elementz level. And all of their carries are very hit or miss. I don't get how either OMG or Fnatic were hyped up. Fnatic hasn't been good in a long long time and everyone with knowledge of LPL were saying OMG most likely won't make it out of groups.
wut, ALL was insanely overhyped but fnatic was pretty shit in s4, pretty much everyone expects them to not get out of the groups
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so much prep time and it does not seem like fnatic used it very well.. hopefully people will stop doubting LMQ now they are good
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On September 25 2014 23:46 kongoline wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:41 Numy wrote:On September 25 2014 23:40 Kavas wrote:On September 25 2014 23:37 Yorkie wrote:On September 25 2014 23:36 nafta wrote:On September 25 2014 23:34 BrownBear wrote:
So LMQ officially surprise of the tournament. Holy shit this group is even more the Group of Death now. how is it a group of death when lmq and blue look like clear favourites lol Well previously the assumption was that LMQ was the clear 4th place team. Now with them playing so well, it means the overall strength of the group has increased from what was predicted Or Fnatic was overhyped as nuts. OMG was expected to struggle. Their support was almost Elementz level. And all of their carries are very hit or miss. I don't get how either OMG or Fnatic were hyped up. Fnatic hasn't been good in a long long time and everyone with knowledge of LPL were saying OMG most likely won't make it out of groups. wut, ALL was insanely overhyped but fnatic was pretty shit in s4, pretty much everyone expects them to not get out of the groups
Guys on the desk said Xpeke wasn't the worst mid laner in the group. That is the embodiment of overhyping when he's been legit trash tier for so long.
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On September 25 2014 23:41 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:40 Kavas wrote:On September 25 2014 23:37 Yorkie wrote:On September 25 2014 23:36 nafta wrote:On September 25 2014 23:34 BrownBear wrote:
So LMQ officially surprise of the tournament. Holy shit this group is even more the Group of Death now. how is it a group of death when lmq and blue look like clear favourites lol Well previously the assumption was that LMQ was the clear 4th place team. Now with them playing so well, it means the overall strength of the group has increased from what was predicted Or Fnatic was overhyped as nuts. OMG was expected to struggle. Their support was almost Elementz level. And all of their carries are very hit or miss. I don't get how either OMG or Fnatic were hyped up. Fnatic hasn't been good in a long long time and everyone with knowledge of LPL were saying OMG most likely won't make it out of groups.
Something something Fnatic will show up when it matters.
Although I suppose it was justified when Fnatic was king of EU LCS in consecutive seasons when they always dropped the ball before playoffs.
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On September 25 2014 23:38 qotsager wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:37 vthree wrote:
Errr.. Why does EU LCS get automatic spots at World again? It is funny to remember people saying they need to take away open qualifier/Taiwan spots to give Korea so we can see the best teams. Might as well take away all 3 EU spots. how about we wait for the groups to unfold.
The problem is not EU losing these 2 games. It seems the EU style of never do anything early and mid game is getting exposed. They have been playing this style all season, can they make changes within a few days is the issue.
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Ok, here's where I'm scared. C9 completely shat the bed against Col and EG enough in the regular season that I'm not 100% sure Kabum will be 2 free wins for them.
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On September 25 2014 23:46 Gator wrote:
so much prep time and it does not seem like fnatic used it very well.. hopefully people will stop doubting LMQ now they are good
what the heck, their strategy preparation was adequate ... you CAN split with nami LULU j4 XERATH waveclearing at tower, you are just supposed to not fuck it up, individual mistakes imo
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On September 25 2014 23:46 Affenaffe wrote:but eu is also notorious for having terrible starts into tournaments but then doing alright, especially fnatic. anyway, these two groups are really exciting (minus wildcard).
That's fine and all but Alliance (assuming they go 0-2 vs Shield and 2-0 vs Kabum) literally only have 1 game to redeem their season. Fnatic almost assuredly has to go at least 3-2 in their remaining games (with 2 auto-losses to Blue) to pass groups.
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As much as I actually want C9 to win/advance, a little part of me wants Kabum to take some games here
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On September 25 2014 23:47 BrownBear wrote:
Ok, here's where I'm scared. C9 completely shat the bed against Col and EG enough in the regular season that I'm not 100% sure Kabum will be 2 free wins for them.
ehhh KABUM was really SoloQ-esque in their first game though.
I daresay DP impressed me more than KABUM did. (for now)
Have more faith in C9!
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On September 25 2014 23:46 Affenaffe wrote:but eu is also notorious for having terrible starts into tournaments but then doing alright, especially fnatic. anyway, these two groups are really exciting (minus wildcard).
would be nice if this was the case but fnc have looked very weak in most of the split.
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