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Unfounded matchfixing accusations are not welcome. Refrain from making off-the-wall accusations without concrete evidence.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
September 25 2014 14:37 GMT
#4841
LMQ coming strong damn, I really didn't expect that.
Eu teams though... reminds me why I stopped watching EU LCS. How have we gotten this bad ?
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 25 2014 14:37 GMT
#4842
Errr.. Why does EU LCS get automatic spots at World again? It is funny to remember people saying they need to take away open qualifier/Taiwan spots to give Korea so we can see the best teams. Might as well take away all 3 EU spots.
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
September 25 2014 14:37 GMT
#4843
ALEX ICH THE PROPHET \o/
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 25 2014 14:37 GMT
#4844
On September 25 2014 23:36 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 23:34 BrownBear wrote:
So LMQ officially surprise of the tournament. Holy shit this group is even more the Group of Death now.

how is it a group of death when lmq and blue look like clear favourites lol

Well previously the assumption was that LMQ was the clear 4th place team. Now with them playing so well, it means the overall strength of the group has increased from what was predicted
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
September 25 2014 14:38 GMT
#4845
Someone has to wash rekkles´ head to fuckin group with his team for fights. That´s just so terrible to watch. European teams play Xerath and don´t know what to do with it. They play siege comps and never group and siege. They pick siege comps to play reactive. That´s just plain stupid. Despite all the talent, the terrible infrastructure and coaching in european teams seems to finally shine through here.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
September 25 2014 14:38 GMT
#4846
On September 25 2014 23:35 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 23:34 BrownBear wrote:
So LMQ officially surprise of the tournament. Holy shit this group is even more the Group of Death now.

I wouldn't say a surprise. I'm almost pretty sure that LMQ can take a game off Korean team. Somehow.


If LMQ was going to take a game off any Korean in the tournament, it would probably be Samsung Blue.

Keep in mind, this is still like a 5% chance this happens, but given they have very strong early game and SSB has somewhat weak early game, it's possible they could snowball it so hard that SSB wouldn't be able to bring it back with mid-late game teamfighting.

Not saying this will happen, but it's still possible.
SUNSFANNED
qotsager
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany585 Posts
September 25 2014 14:38 GMT
#4847
On September 25 2014 23:37 vthree wrote:
Errr.. Why does EU LCS get automatic spots at World again? It is funny to remember people saying they need to take away open qualifier/Taiwan spots to give Korea so we can see the best teams. Might as well take away all 3 EU spots.


how about we wait for the groups to unfold.
***Official ABL Winner 2013***
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
September 25 2014 14:38 GMT
#4848
On September 25 2014 23:37 -Zoda- wrote:
LMQ coming strong damn, I really didn't expect that.
Eu teams though... reminds me why I stopped watching EU LCS. How have we gotten this bad ?

SK was EU hope, but then Svenskeren lelelel and incarnati0n benned again lelelel
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
September 25 2014 14:38 GMT
#4849
Prolly is so smiley all the time <3

Love to have him on the desk
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 25 2014 14:38 GMT
#4850
--- Nuked ---
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 14:39:38
September 25 2014 14:39 GMT
#4851
On September 25 2014 23:38 krndandaman wrote:
despite korean dominance, this is probably the best NA showing on the international stage in a while. groups isn't even finished and they already have better results than last worlds.

But last worlds we had VULCUN THROWBARGAINS. 50% off.

can't beat those deals
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 25 2014 14:39 GMT
#4852
On September 25 2014 23:34 TitusVI wrote:
EU LCS has a serious problem. It is too weak.


I think the style of play is just too passive. It's always been passive but with C9's rise and later the arrival of LMQ the one region EU could consistently bully now plays aggressive and seizes objectives. EU teams seem to just play like they're up against other EU teams who just wait for mid/late game. To make it worse the one aggressive EU, Gambit, completely imploded so now every team in EU is content to be passive.

Of course it's only day 1 of C&D so maybe ALL and FNC are just having a rough start.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
September 25 2014 14:39 GMT
#4853
On September 25 2014 23:36 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 23:34 BrownBear wrote:
So LMQ officially surprise of the tournament. Holy shit this group is even more the Group of Death now.

how is it a group of death when lmq and blue look like clear favourites lol

Because before today most people thought "blue is the clear favourite, OMG and Fnatic probably play for second". Now it looks more like "Blue looks beatable, everybody else can probably take games off everybody".

I still think Fnatic and OMG have the potential to come back and force a fight for 2nd.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
September 25 2014 14:40 GMT
#4854
On September 25 2014 23:37 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 23:36 nafta wrote:
On September 25 2014 23:34 BrownBear wrote:
So LMQ officially surprise of the tournament. Holy shit this group is even more the Group of Death now.

how is it a group of death when lmq and blue look like clear favourites lol

Well previously the assumption was that LMQ was the clear 4th place team. Now with them playing so well, it means the overall strength of the group has increased from what was predicted

Or Fnatic was overhyped as nuts.

OMG was expected to struggle. Their support was almost Elementz level. And all of their carries are very hit or miss.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
September 25 2014 14:40 GMT
#4855
No wonder the european hype-plane crashes when svenskeren is the pilot.
Science>Mechanics
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 14:43:04
September 25 2014 14:41 GMT
#4856
On September 25 2014 23:40 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 23:37 Yorkie wrote:
On September 25 2014 23:36 nafta wrote:
On September 25 2014 23:34 BrownBear wrote:
So LMQ officially surprise of the tournament. Holy shit this group is even more the Group of Death now.

how is it a group of death when lmq and blue look like clear favourites lol

Well previously the assumption was that LMQ was the clear 4th place team. Now with them playing so well, it means the overall strength of the group has increased from what was predicted

Or Fnatic was overhyped as nuts.

OMG was expected to struggle. Their support was almost Elementz level. And all of their carries are very hit or miss.

Uh, excuse me. San would like you to know that he's ALL miss, tyvm.

On September 25 2014 23:40 TitusVI wrote:
No wonder the european hype-plane crashes when svenskeren is the pilot.

Unfortunately. [A] may come back but probably not: they need to beat C9 after that soddy showing at least once and win a tiebreaker, assuming a 0-2 vs NJWS and a 2-0 vs Kabum for both (I think C9 has a shot at taking a game off shield, but eh). Major uphill climb. Not sure if Fnatic can overcome NA China at all now.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 25 2014 14:41 GMT
#4857
On September 25 2014 23:40 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 23:37 Yorkie wrote:
On September 25 2014 23:36 nafta wrote:
On September 25 2014 23:34 BrownBear wrote:
So LMQ officially surprise of the tournament. Holy shit this group is even more the Group of Death now.

how is it a group of death when lmq and blue look like clear favourites lol

Well previously the assumption was that LMQ was the clear 4th place team. Now with them playing so well, it means the overall strength of the group has increased from what was predicted

Or Fnatic was overhyped as nuts.

OMG was expected to struggle. Their support was almost Elementz level. And all of their carries are very hit or miss.


I don't get how either OMG or Fnatic were hyped up. Fnatic hasn't been good in a long long time and everyone with knowledge of LPL were saying OMG most likely won't make it out of groups.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 25 2014 14:41 GMT
#4858
Europe getting exposed.
In Inca we trust
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 25 2014 14:42 GMT
#4859
On September 25 2014 23:36 Sleight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 23:34 Kupon3ss wrote:
USA USA USA


Exactly. Fucking NA pride. LMQ giving the Frenchies some Freedom Pie.

Woah there. Some of us don't like Fnatic in case you didn't notice.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 25 2014 14:42 GMT
#4860
On September 25 2014 23:38 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 23:35 739 wrote:
On September 25 2014 23:34 BrownBear wrote:
So LMQ officially surprise of the tournament. Holy shit this group is even more the Group of Death now.

I wouldn't say a surprise. I'm almost pretty sure that LMQ can take a game off Korean team. Somehow.


If LMQ was going to take a game off any Korean in the tournament, it would probably be Samsung Blue.

Keep in mind, this is still like a 5% chance this happens, but given they have very strong early game and SSB has somewhat weak early game, it's possible they could snowball it so hard that SSB wouldn't be able to bring it back with mid-late game teamfighting.

Not saying this will happen, but it's still possible.

I feel like LMQ is gonna go all out early against Samsung, and either it's gonna fall flat (like you said probably ~95% of the time) or it's gonna be really successful and they could pull off an upset.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
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