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On September 21 2014 01:10 AlterKot wrote:Group B is cool, SHRC didn't roflstomp like EDG and SSW, and between TSM, TPA and SK, I don't think anyone really is miles ahead. I'm still hoping for a good match when SK play TSM. And Jesiz is pretty hilarious 
Hmm I feel like SHRC has looked much better than EDG vs arguably stronger opponents. Can't remember a game from them that was exactly close except for vs tpa which was more like them failing their early game strategy.
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On September 21 2014 01:33 Takkara wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 01:25 orzeu wrote:On September 21 2014 01:13 skykh wrote:
Can fnatic and Alliance upset blue/shield and take first? Or can c9 do it? No, Fnatic is not even favour vs OMG and their s4 playstyle will never work vs Blue. Alliance may take one game from Shield and then lose in tie break. APPLE PIE GONNA SURPRISE THEM BOTH! LMQ AND C9! CAPS ON FLAIRS UP! I'm very interested to see Alliance and C9. Based on whispers and content coming out of Korea, it really seems like Hai is leveling up in his practice time. I have a suspicion that C9 is going to be at their absolute best level for their group. I am interested to see if Alliance comes in with too much swagger or if they come in humbled and hungry. I saw these tweets that were not very reassuring: It might just come down to whether C9 or Alliance can steal a game away from Blue, if we assume they will split their head-to-head. Otherwise, that tie-breaker could be hype!
So far from 2 leaked C9 scrims there is no signs of his improvmence. He got stomped in both games by Cool and Xenics midlaner. But scrims/soloq doesn't mean anything.
On September 21 2014 01:48 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 01:10 AlterKot wrote:Group B is cool, SHRC didn't roflstomp like EDG and SSW, and between TSM, TPA and SK, I don't think anyone really is miles ahead. I'm still hoping for a good match when SK play TSM. And Jesiz is pretty hilarious Hmm I feel like SHRC has looked much better than EDG vs arguably stronger opponents. Can't remember a game from them that was exactly close except for vs tpa which was more like them failing their early game strategy.
It's typical EDG. They looked like shit in regular season of LPL too. Still last time when they played SHRC they almost lost.
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On September 20 2014 22:00 Inflicted wrote:
Lol if TSM actually beats SHRC, then White throws to avoid Blue's bracket
Not possible. Tiebreaker games occur after all normally scheduled game finish. So if SSW counterthrew, tiebreakers can counter counter throw.
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On September 21 2014 01:44 cuppatea wrote:
It's the World Championships and the opening 2 groups have largely consisted of truly fucking awful teams getting clowned on, what are the analysts supposed to say? I'm sure when we eventually get a decent game between 2 good teams the analyst desk will look and sound a lot better.
In the NCAA Men's Basketball March Madness, there are opening round games between #1 seeded teams and #16 seeded teams. The tournament advertises that it has the 64 best teams in the country, but these 16 seeds only have a spot because their small conferences get automatic bids to the tournament. It's typical that these 16 seeds get trounced by 30 or more points, but the announcers during the game and the analysts after the game don't spend all their time shitting on how bad the team is. They talk about the good things the 16 seed did, despite the loss, or they talk about the #1 seed and look forward to future matches. You do not need to shit on teams, no matter at how low a level they played at. In every game, a team won and a team lost. Someone did something to win a game. Talk about that.
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On September 21 2014 01:28 AlterKot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 01:23 TooL wrote:On September 21 2014 01:10 AlterKot wrote:Group B is cool, SHRC didn't roflstomp like EDG and SSW, and between TSM, TPA and SK, I don't think anyone really is miles ahead. I'm still hoping for a good match when SK play TSM. And Jesiz is pretty hilarious On September 21 2014 00:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:Thought so, Bebe's Qs looked somewhat painful when they did hit. (I rmbr him sniping off Morgana by himself more or less during top T3's defense) Bebe's Ezreal is the least of TPA's problems. Uh, did you click the link? I guess I worded that poorly, but what I meant is that Lucian dealt 100k MORE damage than Ez, meaning that if you think Ez wasn't a problem, then you think it's worth to sacrifice 100k damage for a long-range gauntlet slow :f You're comparing "total damage dealt"? Bebe had 20k more damage to champions. Don't you use the blue build partially to have better waveclear, and "total damage" implies he didn't have it?
Ehhh. Not really. It's a bonus, not really a main reason.
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On September 21 2014 01:55 orzeu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 01:33 Takkara wrote:On September 21 2014 01:25 orzeu wrote:On September 21 2014 01:13 skykh wrote:
Can fnatic and Alliance upset blue/shield and take first? Or can c9 do it? No, Fnatic is not even favour vs OMG and their s4 playstyle will never work vs Blue. Alliance may take one game from Shield and then lose in tie break. APPLE PIE GONNA SURPRISE THEM BOTH! LMQ AND C9! CAPS ON FLAIRS UP! I'm very interested to see Alliance and C9. Based on whispers and content coming out of Korea, it really seems like Hai is leveling up in his practice time. I have a suspicion that C9 is going to be at their absolute best level for their group. I am interested to see if Alliance comes in with too much swagger or if they come in humbled and hungry. I saw these tweets that were not very reassuring: https://twitter.com/TabzzLoL/status/513323412739993600https://twitter.com/TabzzLoL/status/513323687986995200It might just come down to whether C9 or Alliance can steal a game away from Blue, if we assume they will split their head-to-head. Otherwise, that tie-breaker could be hype! So far from 2 leaked C9 scrims there is no signs of his improvmence. He got stomped in both games by Cool and Xenics midlaner. But scrims/soloq doesn't mean anything. Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 01:48 AsnSensation wrote:On September 21 2014 01:10 AlterKot wrote:Group B is cool, SHRC didn't roflstomp like EDG and SSW, and between TSM, TPA and SK, I don't think anyone really is miles ahead. I'm still hoping for a good match when SK play TSM. And Jesiz is pretty hilarious Hmm I feel like SHRC has looked much better than EDG vs arguably stronger opponents. Can't remember a game from them that was exactly close except for vs tpa which was more like them failing their early game strategy. It's typical EDG. They looked like shit in regular season of LPL too. Still last time when they played SHRC they almost lost.
And vs blue?
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all of these games have been terrible and the groups were decided after day 1. Not sure how Riot's gonna fix this mess.
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On September 21 2014 03:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
all of these games have been terrible and the groups were decided after day 1. Not sure how Riot's gonna fix this mess.
it's a fucking group stage games, mismatches are going to fucking happen.
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On September 21 2014 03:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
all of these games have been terrible and the groups were decided after day 1. Not sure how Riot's gonna fix this mess.
They will ignore it.
The only important match tomorrow is the first game. If TSM beats Royal they can tie for 1st. Else they are second for sure.
The will talk about experience and pride and all that stuff for the other games but they will be throwaways (ok ok TSM vs SK matters if TSM wins but I dont see that happening anyway and TSM should win that game easy).
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On September 20 2014 22:17 cuppatea wrote:
It's a foregone conclusion that a Korean team will win and the bottom 4 or 5 teams are shit-tier and shouldn't even be here, it's no surprise that people look to the middle of the pack for points of interest. I feel like the tournament would be more exciting if you just had the top 5 teams from China/EU/NA and had them compete for the title of "best non-Korean team", then maybe you could send the winner to get 3-0'd by the OGN champs just to confirm Korea's dominance.
I think that's Crap.
Every world tournament produces done crap games... doesn't mean you stop inviting the world to come out.
You'd think given England's outing at the world cup you'd be in agreement with that sentiment.
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On September 21 2014 03:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
all of these games have been terrible and the groups were decided after day 1. Not sure how Riot's gonna fix this mess.
Group C&D are going to be closer and more entertaining.
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watching this rebroadcast, holy shit, zero is a fucking god. can't believe SHR teamfights so fucking well despite having this korean/chinese team mix, so insane.
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People are getting a little hyped up on the how good royal club looks and how "bad" EDG looks, group stages (because of the disparity in talent) have always made "playmaker" based teams look stronger. Insec specifically has made himself into a fan favorite styling all over lesser skilled teams whilst being closer to decent in games vs. actual threats.
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On September 21 2014 03:52 Slusher wrote:
People are getting a little hyped up on the how good royal club looks and how "bad" EDG looks, group stages (because of the disparity in talent) have always made "playmaker" based teams look stronger. Insec specifically has made himself into a fan favorite styling all over lesser skilled teams whilst being closer to decent in games vs. actual threats.
I'm just surprised that Namei/FzzF lost twice vs Dark Passage botlane while Imp/mata have consistently stomped their lane every game.
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Every preview I heard about EDG that involved LPL casters (read:not riot) has said that Namei isn't flashy and doesn't get kills in lane almost ever, I can see where that might still seem surprising when he's being hailed as the best adc in the world but it's not like it doesn't have history, way back when Cpt.Jack was one of the best ADC in the world he LOST lane on a very consistent basis.
having trouble vs. dark passage probly just comes down to the "harder to posture vs. an idiot" sentement DP not respecting at times when they don't have an advantage/jungle could easily be bottom causing FzzF and Namei to be attacked when they least expect it.
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On September 21 2014 03:55 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 03:52 Slusher wrote:
People are getting a little hyped up on the how good royal club looks and how "bad" EDG looks, group stages (because of the disparity in talent) have always made "playmaker" based teams look stronger. Insec specifically has made himself into a fan favorite styling all over lesser skilled teams whilst being closer to decent in games vs. actual threats. I'm just surprised that Namei/FzzF lost twice vs Dark Passage botlane while Imp/mata have consistently stomped their lane every game.
It's really not surprising though. Namei always plays botlane passively, they focus on mid and lategame to win with straight up better teamfight. Imp is super fucking aggressive at all points in the game, thus mechanical aggressive players always overstomp shitty botlanes, while mechanically passive laners just go even most of the time.
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On September 21 2014 04:05 wei2coolman wrote:
It's really not surprising though. Namei always plays botlane passively, they focus on mid and lategame to win with straight up better teamfight. Imp is super fucking aggressive at all points in the game, thus mechanical aggressive players always overstomp shitty botlanes, while mechanically passive laners just go even most of the time.
Namei's decision making is also just poorer than Imp's. He was the most overrated player on PE and is still the most overrated player on EDG.
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On September 21 2014 04:08 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 04:05 wei2coolman wrote:
It's really not surprising though. Namei always plays botlane passively, they focus on mid and lategame to win with straight up better teamfight. Imp is super fucking aggressive at all points in the game, thus mechanical aggressive players always overstomp shitty botlanes, while mechanically passive laners just go even most of the time. Namei's decision making is also just poorer than Imp's. He was the most overrated player on PE and is still the most overrated player on EDG.
imo he's just a super teamfighter, like his teamfighting is so good that the other areas in which he lacks compared to other world class ADC, still keeps him in contention for world's best ADC.
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On September 21 2014 04:20 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 04:08 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2014 04:05 wei2coolman wrote:
It's really not surprising though. Namei always plays botlane passively, they focus on mid and lategame to win with straight up better teamfight. Imp is super fucking aggressive at all points in the game, thus mechanical aggressive players always overstomp shitty botlanes, while mechanically passive laners just go even most of the time. Namei's decision making is also just poorer than Imp's. He was the most overrated player on PE and is still the most overrated player on EDG. imo he's just a super teamfighter, like his teamfighting is so good that the other areas in which he lacks compared to other world class ADC, still keeps him in contention for world's best ADC.
if that's true I don't understand why (I've only watched china regional finals) analysts keep saying saying he's the best ad in the world if his laning is so poor.
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On September 21 2014 04:28 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 04:20 wei2coolman wrote:On September 21 2014 04:08 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2014 04:05 wei2coolman wrote:
It's really not surprising though. Namei always plays botlane passively, they focus on mid and lategame to win with straight up better teamfight. Imp is super fucking aggressive at all points in the game, thus mechanical aggressive players always overstomp shitty botlanes, while mechanically passive laners just go even most of the time. Namei's decision making is also just poorer than Imp's. He was the most overrated player on PE and is still the most overrated player on EDG. imo he's just a super teamfighter, like his teamfighting is so good that the other areas in which he lacks compared to other world class ADC, still keeps him in contention for world's best ADC. if that's true I don't understand why (I've only watched china regional finals) analysts keep saying saying he's the best ad in the world if his laning is so poor.
Because they have no clue how he plays and don't watch LPL?
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