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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 11 2014 00:28 GMT
#1661
On September 11 2014 08:57 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 08:56 Apex wrote:
Santorin is such a happy guy. Always smiling


Looks like all of coast are very relaxed despite the high pressure situation and getting stomped

Looking at that Sheep tweet, maybe they did not agree with getting those 2 Koreans and were thus not even motivated to win.
Off-season = best season
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 11 2014 04:01 GMT
#1662
Despite the fact that I'm the biggest calitrlolz fanboi, I really don't want team 8 to make it into lcs, especially if cali is no longer going to play once they get in. Team 8 without cali is way worse than current Col
liftlift > tsm
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 11 2014 04:22 GMT
#1663
Why do you guys feel sorry for Sheep, he pretty much supported the roster swap of those 2 random koreans over Rhux and goldenglue.
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 11 2014 08:20 GMT
#1664
Unicorn 3:1 Millenium tonight.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 09:19:25
September 11 2014 09:18 GMT
#1665
kind of sad to see how the scene doesn't move much, difference between lcs and challenger teams is too big due to the quality of the practice they get
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
September 11 2014 11:17 GMT
#1666
Challenger teams are also making a fuckton of mistakes and trying too many weird shit (like Fizz jungle or Hecarim mid).
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
September 11 2014 11:48 GMT
#1667
Yes after the recent games its pretty clear that the gap between lcs tems and challenger is pretty big.
Even some said that T8 has better chances of winning I doubt that. Col had a long split time to get better playing vs LCS teams and at the end of the split COL really showed some strenght and I don't think they loose tonight.
Same with millenium they usually play very well in relegation games for that sweet riot money.
Science>Mechanics
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
September 11 2014 12:22 GMT
#1668
On September 11 2014 20:48 TitusVI wrote:
Yes after the recent games its pretty clear that the gap between lcs tems and challenger is pretty big.
Even some said that T8 has better chances of winning I doubt that. Col had a long split time to get better playing vs LCS teams and at the end of the split COL really showed some strenght and I don't think they loose tonight.
Same with millenium they usually play very well in relegation games for that sweet riot money.


Thing is that if T8 comes into LCS, they're going to be another Velocity with 5-23 in different proportions (assuming that LCS teams will play 18 games, something like 2-16), because CaliTrolz is their only real threat (Slooshi is worse Keane and Keane is overrated as fuck + maplestreet with all "talent hype" he gets, he's not better than any LCS adc right now and he's worse than Impactful as well, not going to say anything about DontMashMe because DMM blows).

coL have legit understanding of the game, they just lack mechanics and such teams tend to climb in their 2nd season.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 12:47:21
September 11 2014 12:46 GMT
#1669
In the defence of the challenger scene col looked like garbage vs a coast where one of their two good players had lost all will to live and zion in spite of westrice's best efforts couldn't 1v9. A split in LCS improved them miles and I wouldn't be surprised if h2k for example got so much better after a split
Glorious SEA doto
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
September 11 2014 13:48 GMT
#1670
AAAaaaand we're back at the boring crap that is no or few new teams in the leagues. Sigh...
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 11 2014 14:22 GMT
#1671
On September 11 2014 22:48 Ota Solgryn wrote:
AAAaaaand we're back at the boring crap that is no or few new teams in the leagues. Sigh...

UNICORNS OF LOVE WILL MAKE IT !
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
September 11 2014 15:14 GMT
#1672
Uzi not going to worlds?

Tsm free win lol?
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 15:22:22
September 11 2014 15:21 GMT
#1673
On September 11 2014 21:46 Fusilero wrote:
In the defence of the challenger scene col looked like garbage vs a coast where one of their two good players had lost all will to live and zion in spite of westrice's best efforts couldn't 1v9. A split in LCS improved them miles and I wouldn't be surprised if h2k for example got so much better after a split



This is why I like adding 2 more teams with the expansion. Even if these teams can't compete at first you'll have 10 new players getting a ton of experience against good teams and players.

Instead of saying "lolololol Velocity 2.0" I think it's good to embrace the expansion teams as a chance to improve EU and NA.

We've seen this on a micro level. If players only got one shot to perform in the LCS we wouldn't have Pobelter or Aphromoo. If we add more teams you have more players learning how they need to play to compete at an LCS level, even if it means there's a split (or even two splits) where they get shit on.

This happens in professional sports too. Sometimes teams end up in a rebuilding phase where they bring in a lot of young players. These teams get crushed, sometimes even for a few years, but if they develop their players properly they eventually have a strong core of guys who are really strong. Then once you get this core you can look at signing some free agents to fill out the roster where you have weaknesses.

Obviously in the LCS there's only 10 teams and your team can get demoted and dissolved after a split, so teams can't afford to prolong that process. But, in my opinion, anything that adds to stability is good because you'll have the opportunity to develop players more instead of panic signing Koreans, etc.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
September 11 2014 15:24 GMT
#1674
On September 12 2014 00:14 skykh wrote:
Uzi not going to worlds?

Tsm free win lol?

source?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 11 2014 15:30 GMT
#1675
On September 12 2014 00:24 Shiznick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 00:14 skykh wrote:
Uzi not going to worlds?

Tsm free win lol?

source?

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2g3vie/uzi_just_saysit_seems_that_go_to_worlds_or_not/
Uzi has been suddenly emo on weibo
Glorious SEA doto
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 11 2014 15:32 GMT
#1676
On September 12 2014 00:30 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 00:24 Shiznick wrote:
On September 12 2014 00:14 skykh wrote:
Uzi not going to worlds?

Tsm free win lol?

source?

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2g3vie/uzi_just_saysit_seems_that_go_to_worlds_or_not/
Uzi has been suddenly emo on weibo

Uzi being emo, so nothing out of the ordinary.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 11 2014 15:33 GMT
#1677
omg U Z I don't do this to me, you were the chosen one
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21689 Posts
September 11 2014 15:43 GMT
#1678
On September 12 2014 00:21 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 21:46 Fusilero wrote:
In the defence of the challenger scene col looked like garbage vs a coast where one of their two good players had lost all will to live and zion in spite of westrice's best efforts couldn't 1v9. A split in LCS improved them miles and I wouldn't be surprised if h2k for example got so much better after a split



This is why I like adding 2 more teams with the expansion. Even if these teams can't compete at first you'll have 10 new players getting a ton of experience against good teams and players.

Instead of saying "lolololol Velocity 2.0" I think it's good to embrace the expansion teams as a chance to improve EU and NA.

We've seen this on a micro level. If players only got one shot to perform in the LCS we wouldn't have Pobelter or Aphromoo. If we add more teams you have more players learning how they need to play to compete at an LCS level, even if it means there's a split (or even two splits) where they get shit on.

This happens in professional sports too. Sometimes teams end up in a rebuilding phase where they bring in a lot of young players. These teams get crushed, sometimes even for a few years, but if they develop their players properly they eventually have a strong core of guys who are really strong. Then once you get this core you can look at signing some free agents to fill out the roster where you have weaknesses.

Obviously in the LCS there's only 10 teams and your team can get demoted and dissolved after a split, so teams can't afford to prolong that process. But, in my opinion, anything that adds to stability is good because you'll have the opportunity to develop players more instead of panic signing Koreans, etc.

I would accept this as a good thing if not for the fact that the vast majority of teams currently in the LCS have no reason to practice and improve and will have even less reason to do so with the extension when they can sit on their ass as a punching bag for the top 2/3 teams and collect their free Riot money.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 11 2014 15:53 GMT
#1679
On September 12 2014 00:33 AsnSensation wrote:
omg U Z I don't do this to me, you were the chosen one

对不起支持我的人了S4我不打了才会这么说得

感觉今年S系列去不去都可以啊好像没什么意思了

cue linkin park
Bronze player stuck in platinum
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 11 2014 16:07 GMT
#1680
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