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Soraka, yi and eve in the same game? I am funny style bro and i am pleased 
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These games are very interesting because it is the first time the new patch is played. Some players say the changes are as impactful as the preseason changes.
Btw I hope the Soraka team loses.
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Denial should have go exhaust on Thresh against Yi.
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k0u is a good jungler but it feels like he picked up yi yesterday... which might not be that far from truth.
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His early wasnt bad at all, but then he wasnt farming jungle enough + went too yolo 3-4 times. At nashor his team played well but he wasnt a factor. The most annying thing that i see from him is perma wasting his ult for nothing and then joining team, yi without ult is useless, he must synchronise with leona if they want to have any chance of winning fights.
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Let's see how our flaming NIP friends doing today.
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Meteos must be licking his lips if there is a new-farm heavy jungle-carry style.
...ooo J4 and Fizz
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J4 Fizz Yi Twitch, lol, awesome
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Why is there a Yi. Oh god why Riot why
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On April 11 2014 03:12 Numy wrote:
Why is there a Yi. Oh god why Riot why
I'll take 'Riot has no idea how to balance for top level play for $1000, Alex'
Does Quickshot know how feral flame works? Ugh this is painful to listen to.
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On April 11 2014 03:16 Amethyst21 wrote:I'll take 'Riot has no idea how to balance for top level play for $1000, Alex' Does Quickshot know how feral flame works? Ugh this is painful to listen to.
So far Yi has lost every game, so these games certainly aren't justifying the "FF so OP" theory.
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This xin though is destroying.
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Kikis on yi 2 times in a row has managed to make ultra fast wriggles and doesnt bother at all to farm it, he thinks ganking weak lanes and counterjungling is the way to go? It hurts my inside...
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On April 11 2014 03:22 TitusVI wrote:
more like xin is op
doesnt make sense, he doesnt even have feral flare yet, only standard items you'd get pre 4.5 as well.
Kou op
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I thought Kou can't play in LCS that's why C9E were playing with a different jungler?
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On April 11 2014 03:24 AsnSensation wrote:doesnt make sense, he doesnt even have feral flare yet, only standard items you'd get pre 4.5 as well. Kou op
i think diamond said recently that xin is the best jungler atm. means not that he is op but pretty good.
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On April 11 2014 03:25 TitusVI wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 03:24 AsnSensation wrote:On April 11 2014 03:22 TitusVI wrote:
more like xin is op doesnt make sense, he doesnt even have feral flare yet, only standard items you'd get pre 4.5 as well. Kou op i think diamond said recently that xin is the best jungler atm. means not that he is op but pretty good.
Diamond loves Xin so take his opinion with a grain of salt. Still he should be viable at the very least
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On April 11 2014 03:19 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 03:16 Amethyst21 wrote:On April 11 2014 03:12 Numy wrote:
Why is there a Yi. Oh god why Riot why I'll take 'Riot has no idea how to balance for top level play for $1000, Alex' Does Quickshot know how feral flame works? Ugh this is painful to listen to. So far Yi has lost every game, so these games certainly aren't justifying the "FF so OP" theory.
If you play 4.5 patch yi and do every single game deciding action before you make feral flare you are actually playing a 4.4 patch yi. 13-6 score, feral flare not done yet. And still he cleans up when enemies all low life, lulz.
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Quickshot has reached a new low in his casting...good lord
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On April 11 2014 03:30 Amethyst21 wrote:
Quickshot has reached a new low in his casting...good lord
maybe krepo can soon join as an full time expert and qickshot can moveb ack to be a play by play caster.
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Gogo NiP!!!!!! I beleive in you guys! Esp Zorozero as the best top laner in EU :D
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On April 11 2014 03:24 Numy wrote:
I thought Kou can't play in LCS that's why C9E were playing with a different jungler?
k0u played tonight.
I just hope that they won't pick up someone like Shacker.
On April 11 2014 03:40 TitusVI wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 03:30 Amethyst21 wrote:
Quickshot has reached a new low in his casting...good lord maybe krepo can soon join as an full time expert and qickshot can moveb ack to be a play by play caster.
NO THANKS.
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that was a really good exhaust as noct was mid flight.
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It was overall great play by NiP bot lane. So many things done just right to win 2v3.
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Kinda sad though that despite their skill NiP has by far the most boring playstyle of all pro LoL teams.
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No such thing as overextending when you've got a Morgana. Lol
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lol Freeze just going 1v3
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On April 11 2014 04:31 Redox wrote:
Kinda sad though that despite their skill NiP has by far the most boring playstyle of all pro LoL teams.
Exactly that. Last year the lemondogs passivity had been a fresh experience for everyone, EU used to be so active but they spreaded their virus like no tommorow. Lets pray that they wont enter LCS.
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On April 11 2014 04:40 sataNik[pG] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 04:31 Redox wrote:
Kinda sad though that despite their skill NiP has by far the most boring playstyle of all pro LoL teams. Exactly that. Last year the lemondogs passivity had been a fresh experience for everyone, EU used to be so active but they spreaded their virus like no tommorow. Lets pray that they wont enter LCS.
I still want them to get into LCS simply because I believe they belong there.
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NiP looks hungry. Knife and fork in the bag.
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On April 11 2014 04:44 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 04:40 sataNik[pG] wrote:On April 11 2014 04:31 Redox wrote:
Kinda sad though that despite their skill NiP has by far the most boring playstyle of all pro LoL teams. Exactly that. Last year the lemondogs passivity had been a fresh experience for everyone, EU used to be so active but they spreaded their virus like no tommorow. Lets pray that they wont enter LCS. I still want them to get into LCS simply because I believe they belong there.
Not to mention everyone in EU LCS is boring now. What on earth happened to EU man.
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NiP is bold and going for the same exact picks for game 2 vs a differnt comp by Reason Gaming. What you guys think of this?
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On April 11 2014 04:44 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 04:40 sataNik[pG] wrote:On April 11 2014 04:31 Redox wrote:
Kinda sad though that despite their skill NiP has by far the most boring playstyle of all pro LoL teams. Exactly that. Last year the lemondogs passivity had been a fresh experience for everyone, EU used to be so active but they spreaded their virus like no tommorow. Lets pray that they wont enter LCS. I still want them to get into LCS simply because I believe they belong there.
They are solid but i wouldnt be surprised if they lose vs Millenium (cant see anyone else picking them as opponents). Wouldnt it mean that M belong there as well + i think M is a good team which was mainly dragged down by Aranae.
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Trashy??? how do you miss your Q like that. Seriously what
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On April 11 2014 05:04 ketchup wrote:
Trashy??? how do you miss your Q like that. Seriously what
Cause he's trash.
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On April 11 2014 05:04 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 05:04 ketchup wrote:
Trashy??? how do you miss your Q like that. Seriously what Cause he's trash.
wisdom
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Can anyone give me more info about the Talon pick? Is there a reason they prefer Talon over someone like Zed? As in, is the talon vs lulu match up that much better than alternatives?
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I don't understand why Zorozero's playing this way.
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Dat flash and he still got out.
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Nukeduck tries the trick Flash and it almost works lol still gets out though
EDIT: Wtf is that replay of just minions lomo
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I hope NiP beats C9E to prove that the first series loss for them is a fluke :O
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On April 11 2014 05:40 LightningStrike wrote:
I hope NiP beats C9E to prove that the first series loss for them is a fluke :O
C9 will roll, then SHC forgets that k0u won't be able to play in Promotions and chooses NiP as their opponent, best outcome for Millenium.
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props to voidle for fighting back into lcs. When i first saw him in lcs interviews i had not the feel that he is that kind of guy who fights his way back.
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Cant wait for the games. Hope NiP can take it home.
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3rd game match way more important than the NiP/C9 one though.
Was Irelia banned the 2nd game of DNL/RG?
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Poles with the 3rd place, awesome :}
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Such a fail lane swap from RG. Go out of your way to get a 1v2 for Irelia, wat?
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Is it just me or is Quickshot calling everyone bad?
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On April 12 2014 03:22 IFVIBHU wrote:
Is it just me or is Quickshot calling everyone bad?
Well now that there's no EG anymore for him to go full ultimate fanboy on...
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On April 12 2014 03:24 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 03:22 IFVIBHU wrote:
Is it just me or is Quickshot calling everyone bad? Well now that there's no EG anymore for him to go full ultimate fanboy on...
It is just really annoying... He does it more than Monte does and when Monte does it fells like legit criticism but with Quickshot it is just 'that was bad'
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kobe seems to looks really different today for some reason
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Finally jungle shyvanna rises again. I was rooting for NiP before, but now I'm torn.
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Wow that was really clever by Nukeduck
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wqow nice escape
zorozero best top...
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Zoro drunk or what? Also Febiven playing really well.
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Febiven is so sick. <3
SHC will lose to them even without k0u it seems, because Mimer < Odoamne and it's only glimmer of hope for SHC.
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whats the monetary price at stake here?
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I feel zoro does not use the Equalizer to its full potential this game...
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On April 12 2014 04:32 AsnSensation wrote:
whats the monetary price at stake here?
16k$ for winners, 10k$ for losers.
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On April 12 2014 04:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Febiven is so sick. <3
SHC will lose to them even without k0u it seems, because Mimer < Odoamne and it's only glimmer of hope for SHC.
Depends who they pick up, but propably they end up with Trashy.
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On April 12 2014 04:32 Fwmeh wrote:
I feel zoro does not use the Equalizer to its full potential this game...
Do you really think so?
;^)
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On April 12 2014 04:36 orzeu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 04:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Febiven is so sick. <3
SHC will lose to them even without k0u it seems, because Mimer < Odoamne and it's only glimmer of hope for SHC. Depends who they pick up, but propably they end up with Trashy.
Trashy lost tonight.
CW will get Denial, SHC C9E and Millenium will go for NiP, because no other outs for them.
It might be other story if k0u could be able to play but sadly - no.
But i don't mind if CW pull NiP-2014 Spring Split and go for them like NiP went for KMT, being able to choose SHC with Haydal.
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On April 12 2014 04:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 04:36 orzeu wrote:On April 12 2014 04:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Febiven is so sick. <3
SHC will lose to them even without k0u it seems, because Mimer < Odoamne and it's only glimmer of hope for SHC. Depends who they pick up, but propably they end up with Trashy. Trashy lost tonight. CW will get Denial, SHC C9E and Millenium will go for NiP, because no other outs for them. It might be other story if k0u could be able to play but sadly - no. But i don't mind if CW pull NiP-2014 Spring Split and go for them like NiP went for KMT, being able to choose SHC with Haydal.
I meant C9 will pick up Trashy.
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That was one of the best thresh hooks I've ever seen on Sivir
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On April 12 2014 04:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 04:36 orzeu wrote:On April 12 2014 04:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Febiven is so sick. <3
SHC will lose to them even without k0u it seems, because Mimer < Odoamne and it's only glimmer of hope for SHC. Depends who they pick up, but propably they end up with Trashy. Trashy lost tonight. CW will get Denial, SHC C9E and Millenium will go for NiP, because no other outs for them. It might be other story if k0u could be able to play but sadly - no. But i don't mind if CW pull NiP-2014 Spring Split and go for them like NiP went for KMT, being able to choose SHC with Haydal.
i think a much cooler story line would be the 6th place team firstpicking NiP and 3:0 them. From what I've seen from NiP these past couple of weeks I don't think they "easily" stomp Mill/SHC as the majority thinks they will :O
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Well Zoro made up for some of his other plays with that one..
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well, starting baron vs Rumble is just stupid.
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On April 12 2014 04:39 orzeu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 04:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 12 2014 04:36 orzeu wrote:On April 12 2014 04:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Febiven is so sick. <3
SHC will lose to them even without k0u it seems, because Mimer < Odoamne and it's only glimmer of hope for SHC. Depends who they pick up, but propably they end up with Trashy. Trashy lost tonight. CW will get Denial, SHC C9E and Millenium will go for NiP, because no other outs for them. It might be other story if k0u could be able to play but sadly - no. But i don't mind if CW pull NiP-2014 Spring Split and go for them like NiP went for KMT, being able to choose SHC with Haydal. I meant C9 will pick up Trashy.
He has close playstyle to k0u's one, so i'm not against.
Sadly they can't get Amin as well, so it's either Trashy or Shacker i assume.
On April 12 2014 04:41 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 04:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 12 2014 04:36 orzeu wrote:On April 12 2014 04:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Febiven is so sick. <3
SHC will lose to them even without k0u it seems, because Mimer < Odoamne and it's only glimmer of hope for SHC. Depends who they pick up, but propably they end up with Trashy. Trashy lost tonight. CW will get Denial, SHC C9E and Millenium will go for NiP, because no other outs for them. It might be other story if k0u could be able to play but sadly - no. But i don't mind if CW pull NiP-2014 Spring Split and go for them like NiP went for KMT, being able to choose SHC with Haydal. i think a much cooler story line would be the 6th place team firstpicking NiP and 3:0 them. From what I've seen from NiP these past couple of weeks I don't think they "easily" stomp Mill/SHC as the majority thinks they will :O
SHC is way worse than C9E/NiP, Millenium in good day can roll everyone, but everything will be on KottenX ability to play anything but Kha'Zix.
And CW won't roll NiP 3-0 just because their sololaners will get rolled and Amazing can't carry those shitters alone.
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So NA C9 is going to be crazy in the playoffs right? Meteos with Feral Flare and Balls getting Rumble back as a strong toplane option is going to make them terrifying.
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btw I wish Ahri's W would get the Lucian Passive treatment, always sad to watch all 2/3 charges wasted on a low creep.
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On April 12 2014 04:43 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 04:39 orzeu wrote:On April 12 2014 04:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 12 2014 04:36 orzeu wrote:On April 12 2014 04:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Febiven is so sick. <3
SHC will lose to them even without k0u it seems, because Mimer < Odoamne and it's only glimmer of hope for SHC. Depends who they pick up, but propably they end up with Trashy. Trashy lost tonight. CW will get Denial, SHC C9E and Millenium will go for NiP, because no other outs for them. It might be other story if k0u could be able to play but sadly - no. But i don't mind if CW pull NiP-2014 Spring Split and go for them like NiP went for KMT, being able to choose SHC with Haydal. I meant C9 will pick up Trashy. He has close playstyle to k0u's one, so i'm not against. Sadly they can't get Amin as well, so it's either Trashy or Shacker i assume.
There is also that Santorin guy. He is really good, but some ppl said that he will join Millenium, so who knows.
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Sooo what happens if C9E qualifies for LCS? Cloud 9 organization just drops them?
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On April 12 2014 04:45 AsnSensation wrote:
btw I wish Ahri's W would get the Lucian Passive treatment, always sad to watch all 2/3 charges wasted on a low creep.
and have to wait for like 5 seconds to reset the cooldown? yes please
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On April 12 2014 04:43 Swords wrote:
So NA C9 is going to be crazy in the playoffs right? Meteos with Feral Flare and Balls getting Rumble back as a strong toplane option is going to make them terrifying.
Yeah you could hardly design a better metagame for C9.NA - Carry jungler, room for top lane carry/dominance with an emphasis on midlane roaming. I think that tilts their clash vs. TSM (or CLG) even more in their favour - C9 is very adaptable in general and now that their default gameplan is 'meta' they should be even more formidable.
Who knows what the LCS teams are coming up with though..
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On April 12 2014 04:47 MattBarry wrote:
Sooo what happens if C9E qualifies for LCS? Cloud 9 organization just drops them?
I imagine that they 'sell' the team to an organization (I'm sure they can find more than one that will want a guaranteed LCS spot with a star in Febian....)
Then you pick up another challenger team, rinse and repeat. Acquire e-Sport dollars.
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these baron attempts from c9 are hilarious.
voidle+febiven hardcarry
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On April 12 2014 04:50 Amethyst21 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 04:47 MattBarry wrote:
Sooo what happens if C9E qualifies for LCS? Cloud 9 organization just drops them? I imagine that they 'sell' the team to an organization (I'm sure they can find more than one that will want a guaranteed LCS spot with a star in Febian....) Then you pick up another challenger team, rinse and repeat. Acquire e-Sport dollars.
EG/Alliance, same stuff.
And there is no reason to sell teams who has either tons of fans like C9T with Bischu and Altec or C9E who has potential to be the best in S5.
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On April 12 2014 04:50 Amethyst21 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 04:47 MattBarry wrote:
Sooo what happens if C9E qualifies for LCS? Cloud 9 organization just drops them? I imagine that they 'sell' the team to an organization (I'm sure they can find more than one that will want a guaranteed LCS spot with a star in Febian....) Then you pick up another challenger team, rinse and repeat. Acquire e-Sport dollars.
That's...stupid
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On April 12 2014 04:50 Amethyst21 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 04:47 MattBarry wrote:
Sooo what happens if C9E qualifies for LCS? Cloud 9 organization just drops them? I imagine that they 'sell' the team to an organization (I'm sure they can find more than one that will want a guaranteed LCS spot with a star in Febian....) Then you pick up another challenger team, rinse and repeat. Acquire e-Sport dollars.
hoping that the team you pick up does make it to lcs which isnt 100% sure. Surely not the safest investment.
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febiven salvaged that fight so hard, not sure what voidle and kou were doing there. just backoff from that equalizer and then engage.
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Eve is banned and picked. Nice.
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On April 12 2014 05:16 orzeu wrote:
Eve is banned and picked. Nice.
And no regame ? For real ?
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I find it really odd that teams/players don't stick around for tower kill still.
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On April 12 2014 05:16 orzeu wrote:
Eve is banned and picked. Nice.
Yeah, wait a second, wtf.
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Seems like it will be repeat of EUCS #1 finals, when C9E won incredibly long game 1 and then rolled in game 2.
Poor k0u, i guess i will say it for future 6 months when SHC will lose a lot.
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On April 12 2014 05:28 Swords wrote:Yeah, wait a second, wtf.
Whoever controls the overlay screwed up. It seems to be done manually considering the delay when it pops up. For example, the third ban for NiP pops up after the first pick by c9E. Check the youtube
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On April 12 2014 05:31 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 05:28 Swords wrote:On April 12 2014 05:16 orzeu wrote:
Eve is banned and picked. Nice. Yeah, wait a second, wtf. Whoever controls the overlay screwed up. It seems to be done manually considering the delay when it pops up. For example, the third ban for NiP pops up after the first pick by c9E. Check the youtube
Ohhhh! Ok, I thought it was behaving weirdly before someone pointed out the Eve ban and pick.
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What the hell are C9 doing? They have a lead and an awesome poke comp and they're fighting in the jungle and trying to sneak barons.
I'm impressed by them, but man last game they made a lot of weird decisions too.
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On April 12 2014 05:43 Swords wrote:
What the hell are C9 doing? They have a lead and an awesome poke comp and they're fighting in the jungle and trying to sneak barons.
I'm impressed by them, but man last game they made a lot of weird decisions too.
Because that's C9E. You can't expect perfect games from them, they're just entertaining to watch.
SHC, CHOOSE NIP PLS.
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On April 12 2014 05:33 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 05:31 ketchup wrote:On April 12 2014 05:28 Swords wrote:On April 12 2014 05:16 orzeu wrote:
Eve is banned and picked. Nice. Yeah, wait a second, wtf. Whoever controls the overlay screwed up. It seems to be done manually considering the delay when it pops up. For example, the third ban for NiP pops up after the first pick by c9E. Check the youtube Ohhhh! Ok, I thought it was behaving weirdly before someone pointed out the Eve ban and pick.
Yea, I mostly checked it because someone mentioned it. It doesn't make sense for it to be legit, since teams would request a remake ASAP if a banned champion got picked.
Looks like C9E aren't really a fluke. They've consistently beaten NiP who people have said are the strongest challenger team.
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Oh fucking hell, it's bo5 :D
Sick city.
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What's on the line for the first/second place match? I thought the LCS relegated teams get to choose who they're playing, so what advantage does being 1st challenge give you?
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On April 12 2014 05:59 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
What's on the line for the first/second place match? I thought the LCS relegated teams get to choose who they're playing, so what advantage does being 1st challenge give you?
6k bucks, so C9E can give more money to k0u for being out of age.
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Nuke is such a good player, but why he never play meta champion.
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On April 12 2014 06:16 orzeu wrote:
Nuke is such a good player, but why he never play meta champion.
What is meta, lol?
He dislikes farming champions, except for Lulu and LeBlanc/Zed were banned i assume.
He tried Ahri before and lost, so time to go to lovely Fizz, why not.
Champion pools right now in competitive scene are way bigger than seasons before when there were 3-4 champions and you were rotating between them.
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On April 12 2014 06:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 06:16 orzeu wrote:
Nuke is such a good player, but why he never play meta champion. What is meta, lol? He dislikes farming champions, except for Lulu and LeBlanc/Zed were banned i assume. He tried Ahri before and lost, so time to go to lovely Fizz, why not. Champion pools right now in competitive scene are way bigger than seasons before when there were 3-4 champions and you were rotating between them.
You need to be able to play Ziggs and Nidalee in current meta.
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On April 12 2014 06:23 orzeu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 06:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 12 2014 06:16 orzeu wrote:
Nuke is such a good player, but why he never play meta champion. What is meta, lol? He dislikes farming champions, except for Lulu and LeBlanc/Zed were banned i assume. He tried Ahri before and lost, so time to go to lovely Fizz, why not. Champion pools right now in competitive scene are way bigger than seasons before when there were 3-4 champions and you were rotating between them. You need to be able to play Ziggs and Nidalee in current meta.
I guess, it's hard to not be able to play Ziggs, but as i said, he prefers assassins to Ziggs and you don't need Ziggs in every comp either.
And i assume he can play Nidalee as well, it's just banned in every game this series except for last and Nidalee will be getting banned more and more because she's new #1 mid again after Lulu nerf.
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Watch this on Azubu, no stream troubles like Twitch.
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Twitch stream so slideshow but it looks like NiP just wiped the floor with C9E?
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Twitch is back up
C9E is leading the series 2-0, but NiP is wrecking this game.
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Srsly, nothing changed about NiP in those months, even Lemondogs were same.
- We got advantage from start? We snowball, we roll.
- We got rolled from start? Gg, we can't come back.
They're like Curse in strategic case but with way higher individual skill.
Knowing that Millenium is absolute streaky team (or they go ultrafeed, or they go ultrarape), time for NiP fans to get worried l0l.
Lol, k0u :DD
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Oh my god Kou. Pls comeback
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These recap vids have really been improved. Fast editing to get them on broadcast like that.
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For all the shit C9.EU are getting for sticking with k0u, I think it's smart - they are practicing with a team that works well together and guaranteeing one of the best EU junglers to play with them in S5. Meanwhile they can keep racking up the challenger prizepool and it's not like they would do hot in LCS without k0u. I applaud long-term thinking.
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On April 12 2014 07:35 AlterKot wrote:
For all the shit C9.EU are getting for sticking with k0u, I think it's smart - they are practicing with a team that works well together and guaranteeing one of the best EU junglers to play with them in S5. Meanwhile they can keep racking up the challenger prizepool and it's not like they would do hot in LCS without k0u. I applaud long-term thinking.
They tried other jungler and Denial just smashed them in EUCS #2.
I'm scared that they won't be able to adapt to new jungler before Promotions.
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My point is that I don't think they will and I don't think they care. They will just hope they randomly get another great jungler that somehow synergises well with them and if not, then, well, it's just another 9 months of challenger scene with k0u and then he's 17 and they can join LCS. I'd be really suprised if they just wanted to win Challenger Series so badly that they thought they can just get a new jungler after them.
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On April 12 2014 07:45 AlterKot wrote:
My point is that I don't think they will and I don't think they care. They will just hope they randomly get another great jungler that somehow synergises well with them and if not, then, well, it's just another 9 months of challenger scene with k0u and then he's 17 and they can join LCS. I'd be really suprised if they just wanted to win Challenger Series so badly that they thought they can just get a new jungler after them.
Dunno, i don't think they will throw in Promotions. Febiven can win alone against SHC, if Hjarnan and Voidle won't go ultrafeed.
It's like Fnatic with Rekkles but Fnatic is a bit different story.
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On April 12 2014 07:45 AlterKot wrote:
My point is that I don't think they will and I don't think they care. They will just hope they randomly get another great jungler that somehow synergises well with them and if not, then, well, it's just another 9 months of challenger scene with k0u and then he's 17 and they can join LCS. I'd be really suprised if they just wanted to win Challenger Series so badly that they thought they can just get a new jungler after them.
You are wrong. They only went back to k0u, because they were losing every game without him and weren't sure if they can finish top 3. Also Febiven quit school last month or so, because he is going all in and their only goal is LCS.
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C9E with k0u looked very impressive indeed but maybe its a good thing for them that they will not have him in the promos. Reasoning is that by not having k0u SHC will 99% pick them and this way they will avoid Millenium which are miles ahead of SHC atm even without kottenx on kha.
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On April 12 2014 08:40 sataNik[pG] wrote:
C9E with k0u looked very impressive indeed but maybe its a good thing for them that they will not have him in the promos. Reasoning is that by not having k0u SHC will 99% pick them and this way they will avoid Millenium which are miles ahead of SHC atm even without kottenx on kha.
C9E with k0u will smash almost every LCS team, if he could be able to play they would have rolled in Summer.
But C9E without k0u got rolled by Denial which got smashed by NiP yesterday and back in EUCS #2 Finals like Denial are silvers.
However, Lemondogs dropped MrRallez because of age being SNS back in Promotions and switched Tabzz, so probably they have good chance to find some new star.
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The thing is that i saw high quality today in all C9E players, so i think they will use the time well to prepare with another jungler and will actually be the favorites vs SHC. I dont give much importance to k0u-less C9E losing to Denial because it was just a jungler swap for a game and roster swaps need time to settle in, especially in the playmaking communication heavy jungler role. Now they have enough time ahead to prepare and I expect from them to train hard with new jungler and beat SHC.
The Nip-M matchup will probably be like 50-50 but i hope the good M arrives and prevails. Millenium plays entertaining style and are nice guys while Nip n/c.
Denial doesnt seem like a team which can enter LCS but miracles can happen.
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So tomorrow we'll see who of the 4 Na teams go to promotion. interesting.
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On April 12 2014 11:18 TitusVI wrote:
So tomorrow we'll see who of the 4 Na teams go to promotion. interesting.
lomo
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On April 12 2014 08:22 orzeu wrote:
They only went back to k0u, because they were losing every game without him and weren't sure if they can finish top 3. Also Febiven quit school last month or so, because he is going all in and their only goal is LCS.
That doesn't really change what I said. Whether they went back to k0u because "first things first, let's get top3 in challenger and THEN try to find a jungler who we will be able to qualify with" or "other jungler didn't work and we have only few months to find and synergize with a new one, let's just scrap S4 and start preparing for S5" is mere speculation. Didn't know about Febiven, this makes my version of things less likely, unless he quit not to join LCS, but to train more so that he's best mid EU by S5... But yeah, you're probably right.
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On April 12 2014 07:35 AlterKot wrote:
For all the shit C9.EU are getting for sticking with k0u, I think it's smart - they are practicing with a team that works well together and guaranteeing one of the best EU junglers to play with them in S5. Meanwhile they can keep racking up the challenger prizepool and it's not like they would do hot in LCS without k0u. I applaud long-term thinking.
I don't think that's the case. It's not like progamers have long careers to work around anyway, especially with form being so fickle compared to other sports. That is, I don't think they picked k0u so they can have a good shot of making it in Season 5. I think they picked k0u so that they will at least have the chance to make it in Season 4. That's a perfectly logical decision and it's much better than gambling with a whole new jungler to make it to promotions. They will have to gamble in promotions anyway, but they still hedged their bets in the best way available to them.
If they fail they will probably pick k0u up again like you said. It's not long term thinking, it's a safe hedge with no real negative consequences assuming they didn't believe they can make it with a new jungler anyway even with more preparation time.
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Yeah, I'm probably thinking too far into it. Some people were implying that C9E was short-sighted because they were sticking with k0u until the end of challenger series unlike NiP who got Hulberto early and had time to synergise with him. That's why I was hoping that they thought they are a strong team and don't want to risk making changes. And therefore decided to play with k0u and risk not making S4 rather than try a new jungler and risk ending up with a worse lineup. But I guess prioritizing making top3 and worrying about getting a new jungler later makes more sense.
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On April 12 2014 17:18 1ntrigue wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 07:35 AlterKot wrote:
For all the shit C9.EU are getting for sticking with k0u, I think it's smart - they are practicing with a team that works well together and guaranteeing one of the best EU junglers to play with them in S5. Meanwhile they can keep racking up the challenger prizepool and it's not like they would do hot in LCS without k0u. I applaud long-term thinking. I don't think that's the case. It's not like progamers have long careers to work around anyway, especially with form being so fickle compared to other sports. That is, I don't think they picked k0u so they can have a good shot of making it in Season 5. I think they picked k0u so that they will at least have the chance to make it in Season 4. That's a perfectly logical decision and it's much better than gambling with a whole new jungler to make it to promotions. They will have to gamble in promotions anyway, but they still hedged their bets in the best way available to them. If they fail they will probably pick k0u up again like you said. It's not long term thinking, it's a safe hedge with no real negative consequences assuming they didn't believe they can make it with a new jungler anyway even with more preparation time.
I don't think they won't get k0u back in autumn, it will be like Rekkles with Fnatic.
On April 12 2014 11:18 TitusVI wrote:
So tomorrow we'll see who of the 4 Na teams go to promotion. interesting.
Nothing interesting, to be honest.
CA will be smashed again by C9T like back in NACS #2, and CLB will be 2x20 by LoMoQ.
I will laugh tho, if CA wins against CLB next day and Curse who finishes 6th will choose them to play against. And lose.
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^
at least they won't have to go through the trouble to find a new organisation/teamname then.
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On April 12 2014 22:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 17:18 1ntrigue wrote:On April 12 2014 07:35 AlterKot wrote:
For all the shit C9.EU are getting for sticking with k0u, I think it's smart - they are practicing with a team that works well together and guaranteeing one of the best EU junglers to play with them in S5. Meanwhile they can keep racking up the challenger prizepool and it's not like they would do hot in LCS without k0u. I applaud long-term thinking. I don't think that's the case. It's not like progamers have long careers to work around anyway, especially with form being so fickle compared to other sports. That is, I don't think they picked k0u so they can have a good shot of making it in Season 5. I think they picked k0u so that they will at least have the chance to make it in Season 4. That's a perfectly logical decision and it's much better than gambling with a whole new jungler to make it to promotions. They will have to gamble in promotions anyway, but they still hedged their bets in the best way available to them. If they fail they will probably pick k0u up again like you said. It's not long term thinking, it's a safe hedge with no real negative consequences assuming they didn't believe they can make it with a new jungler anyway even with more preparation time. I don't think they won't get k0u back in autumn, it will be like Rekkles with Fnatic. Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 11:18 TitusVI wrote:
So tomorrow we'll see who of the 4 Na teams go to promotion. interesting. Nothing interesting, to be honest. CA will be smashed again by C9T like back in NACS #2, and CLB will be 2x20 by LoMoQ. I will laugh tho, if CA wins against CLB next day and Curse who finishes 6th will choose them to play against. And lose.
Haha that would be funny for sure :p
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On April 12 2014 22:25 AsnSensation wrote:
^
at least they won't have to go through the trouble to find a new organisation/teamname then.
Still want Coast-C9T and EG-CLB, can challengers take their revenge or no.
And if C9E fails to get into LCS, i want C9T to get in just to see what did Jack and Dan create to cover their teams.
On April 12 2014 22:28 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 22:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 12 2014 17:18 1ntrigue wrote:On April 12 2014 07:35 AlterKot wrote:
For all the shit C9.EU are getting for sticking with k0u, I think it's smart - they are practicing with a team that works well together and guaranteeing one of the best EU junglers to play with them in S5. Meanwhile they can keep racking up the challenger prizepool and it's not like they would do hot in LCS without k0u. I applaud long-term thinking. I don't think that's the case. It's not like progamers have long careers to work around anyway, especially with form being so fickle compared to other sports. That is, I don't think they picked k0u so they can have a good shot of making it in Season 5. I think they picked k0u so that they will at least have the chance to make it in Season 4. That's a perfectly logical decision and it's much better than gambling with a whole new jungler to make it to promotions. They will have to gamble in promotions anyway, but they still hedged their bets in the best way available to them. If they fail they will probably pick k0u up again like you said. It's not long term thinking, it's a safe hedge with no real negative consequences assuming they didn't believe they can make it with a new jungler anyway even with more preparation time. I don't think they won't get k0u back in autumn, it will be like Rekkles with Fnatic. On April 12 2014 11:18 TitusVI wrote:
So tomorrow we'll see who of the 4 Na teams go to promotion. interesting. Nothing interesting, to be honest. CA will be smashed again by C9T like back in NACS #2, and CLB will be 2x20 by LoMoQ. I will laugh tho, if CA wins against CLB next day and Curse who finishes 6th will choose them to play against. And lose. Haha that would be funny for sure :p
Team which was called "Children of I Will Dominate" will just smash IWD and send him to Challenger scene.
Exciting stuff.
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Cloud9 invasion. Looks like 3 teams in the LCS :o
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On April 12 2014 22:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Nothing interesting, to be honest.
CA will be smashed again by C9T like back in NACS #2, and CLB will be 2x20 by LoMoQ.
You got this wrong, its CLB vs C9T and CA vs LMQ. And CLB vs C9T can definitely go either way, while CA will most likely end 4th.
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On April 13 2014 03:44 sataNik[pG] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 22:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Nothing interesting, to be honest.
CA will be smashed again by C9T like back in NACS #2, and CLB will be 2x20 by LoMoQ.
You got this wrong, its CLB vs C9T and CA vs LMQ. And CLB vs C9T can definitely go either way, while CA will most likely end 4th.
This is truth.
Unless C9T has improved A LOT, it's going to be a toss up between clb and c9t. Both teams have their random burst of amazing play, then pretty mediocre follow ups afterwards. For C9T, I'm not sure about Yazuki at all. I've seen him play oddly. For CLB, there will always be westrice. He's been at this point so many times before, and his performances is really hit or miss. I don't know if it's nerves or what, but he doesn't always play the best when he is in these types of matches. I'm also not a fan of brokenshard as a jungler.
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Had to run an errand when game started and now Phreak & Jatt are talking, someone got ddosed again?
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On April 13 2014 04:24 AsnSensation wrote:
Had to run an errand when game started and now Phreak & Jatt are talking, someone got ddosed again?
There in the studio for this arnt they? But yes the game paused a few seconds in and has been since.
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What a painful level 1 for CLB
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Did the teams have to sit in stony silence for the full however long (20+ minutes?) that pause was?
That must be a bit of a shock to the system for your first studio game~
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On April 13 2014 04:49 killerdog wrote:
Did the teams have to sit in stony silence for the full however long (20+ minutes?) that pause was?
That must be a bit of a shock to the system for your first studio game~
I thought they can talk as long as it isn't about the game?
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On April 13 2014 03:44 sataNik[pG] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 22:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Nothing interesting, to be honest.
CA will be smashed again by C9T like back in NACS #2, and CLB will be 2x20 by LoMoQ.
You got this wrong, its CLB vs C9T and CA vs LMQ. And CLB vs C9T can definitely go either way, while CA will most likely end 4th.
Welp, my fault.
Still, i will take C9T against CLB/CA 6,5 days in a week and LMQ is way stronger than everyone.
On April 13 2014 04:10 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 03:44 sataNik[pG] wrote:On April 12 2014 22:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Nothing interesting, to be honest.
CA will be smashed again by C9T like back in NACS #2, and CLB will be 2x20 by LoMoQ.
You got this wrong, its CLB vs C9T and CA vs LMQ. And CLB vs C9T can definitely go either way, while CA will most likely end 4th. This is truth. Unless C9T has improved A LOT, it's going to be a toss up between clb and c9t. Both teams have their random burst of amazing play, then pretty mediocre follow ups afterwards. For C9T, I'm not sure about Yazuki at all. I've seen him play oddly. For CLB, there will always be westrice. He's been at this point so many times before, and his performances is really hit or miss. I don't know if it's nerves or what, but he doesn't always play the best when he is in these types of matches. I'm also not a fan of brokenshard as a jungler.
If Robert isn't going, there is no CLB, Westrice can't carry.
Only really weak point of C9T is Kez but he's probably functioning like brains of the team there and bag of life experience for youngsters like Altec/Gleebglarbu.
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On April 13 2014 05:00 Sufficiency wrote:
lol CLB
That's why you take C9T always against anyone in Challenger except for LoMoQ.
Altec can carry this team alone even with choking Bischu into LCS if they play Coast/Curse, i doubt that they can win against EG and XDG will be forced to LoMoQ.
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This altec guy wtf.
edit. Shows how bad WW top is. Walking ulti bot is kind of useless.
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Altec is just shredding CLB
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are those the SPOOKY GHOSTS
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Dumping heavenTime for Brokenshard was worst decision which Westrice could make it seems.
Since that time, TBD/DTG/CLB just can't teamfight absolutely.
On April 13 2014 05:08 wei2coolman wrote:
wow , westrice just out played c9t so hard right there. rofl.
Ohwell, you're not banned already?
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wow , westrice just out played c9t so hard right there. rofl.
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soo leaguepedia tells me altec turns 17 in may so he'll be old enough by the time of the promo tournament right?
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On April 13 2014 05:10 AsnSensation wrote:
soo leaguepedia tells me altec turns 17 in may so he'll be old enough by the time of the promo tournament right?
He can play because he will be in age to play in LCS.
AT LEAST NUKEDUCK PLAYED LAST SUMMER.
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On April 13 2014 05:10 AsnSensation wrote:
soo leaguepedia tells me altec turns 17 in may so he'll be old enough by the time of the promo tournament right?
I think he can play because he'll be old enough for the actual season. Don't quote me on that though
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On April 13 2014 05:10 Nos- wrote:
THE RED BARON COMETH
RED COMET
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I really don't like one thing in C9T.
Bischu, Yazuki and Kez seem to have really narrow champion pools, i, for one, never saw Bischu playing assassins in competitive for example.
Teams in LCS and EG especially who they will face it seems, can abuse this stuff forever.
And Prolly with heal, God damn it, Soraka.
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CLB looked far more bossy but also very blunder prone. After this horrible lvl1 most teams would just sit and lose but they totally outplay C9T for 15+ minutes until pr0lly yolo gifted triple to corki and then it was over. CLB can easily win 2 games in a row.
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On April 13 2014 05:33 sataNik[pG] wrote:
CLB looked far more bossy but also very blunder prone. After this horrible lvl1 most teams would just sit and lose but they totally outplay C9T for 15+ minutes until pr0lly yolo gifted triple to corki and then it was over. CLB can easily win 2 games in a row.
They srsly have no idea about what gameplan is.
You can't win a lot on higher level without preparations and it seems that heavenTime really was playmaker for this team, not Arthelon/Westrice/Robert.
And their execution of those 4-man pushes is just ridiculously bad as well.
OHWELL, YAZUKI.
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if bischu's soloq games are any indication his lulu is not the greatest
yakuzi and kez are something else
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woot, nice plays from CLB
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Ultimate plan of C9T to grab revenge on Coast or wtf is it?
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feral flare xin zhao is insane. rofl.
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soraka is nidalee levels of lame
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heals on heals on heals.
clb invincible right now.
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On April 13 2014 05:56 Nos- wrote:
soraka is nidalee levels of lame
I disagree. Nidalee is way more problematic.
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On April 13 2014 06:01 Sufficiency wrote:I disagree. Nidalee is way more problematic.
Nid is more problematic but Soraka is more lame to play.
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On April 13 2014 05:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 05:33 sataNik[pG] wrote:
CLB looked far more bossy but also very blunder prone. After this horrible lvl1 most teams would just sit and lose but they totally outplay C9T for 15+ minutes until pr0lly yolo gifted triple to corki and then it was over. CLB can easily win 2 games in a row. They srsly have no idea about what gameplan is. You can't win a lot on higher level without preparations and it seems that heavenTime really was playmaker for this team, not Arthelon/Westrice/Robert. And their execution of those 4-man pushes is just ridiculously bad as well. OHWELL, YAZUKI.
Brokenshard is an amazing jungler, i have played like 10 games as jungler vs him and i can say that he is very smart and his style is very uncompromising. One thing he often lacks though is patience. I just love this guy.
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why don't you just fucking fight yazuki jesus christ
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Altec needs to be on an LCS team the minute he becomes eligible
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I think this game was decided on this teamfight - and this teamfight was decided by westrice missing that Q
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God I hate these Lee Sin tops.
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oh man brokenshard bad luck on ult timing, cancelled out what should have been great ori ult x.x
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Seriously though, both of these teams' top laners are garbage.
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Hmm I don't think either of these guys have much chance of getting into LCS
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what the hell is yazuki doing just taking free damage for no reason
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On April 13 2014 06:47 Nytefish wrote:
Hmm I don't think either of these guys have much chance of getting into LCS
Well, at least we get to watch LMQ in LCS. That's good.
When is LMQ gonna play XDG?
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robert played that teamfight so bad. im a big fan, but he was nowhere to be found after he got chunked early in the fight.
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Yep Lee Sin and how Westrice played him lost this for col.
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that baron was so facepalm, at so many points.
fucking westrice walks back and forth rather than attack kez >.>
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That was a pretty brilliant teamfight from C9. Altec just outplaying Robert this whole series
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To be fair C9 put a lot of sidelane farm onto Altec.
CLB put it onto westrice who has been pretty useless all series.
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i really dislike how yazuki plays shyv, as compared to like Flame who guns for the back line he just walks around with ult up but in human form just doing nothing
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Yazuki is throwing too. np.
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On April 13 2014 07:01 Nos- wrote:
i really dislike how yazuki plays shyv, as compared to like Flame who guns for the back line he just walks around with ult up but in human form just doing nothing
Yeah I facepalmed so hard at that.
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Yazuki: NO, I RATHER WALK TO THAT XIN INSTEAD OF HITTING THE HALF HEALTH LUCIAN BESIDE ME.
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On April 13 2014 07:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Yazuki: NO, I RATHER WALK TO THAT XIN INSTEAD OF HITTING THE HALF HEALTH LUCIAN BESIDE ME.
I knew I wasn't the only one shouting at my screen watching that.
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That fight was truly absurd
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wtf was that flash from Westrice?
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damn altec going full yolo with the last item bork
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I think a bronze player could have played that Shyvana better. At least they know to how to charge in instead of running around in a teamfight like an idiot and take free damage.
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Just sad how useless the col top and mid laners are this game. I dont think Prolly ever hit more than 1 with his ult.
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450 cs Lee. And he does absolutely nothing.
sigh. This is why you cant go lategame with Lee. And esp why you dont feed him that much farm
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On April 13 2014 07:08 Gorsameth wrote:
450 cs Lee. And he does absolutely nothing.
sigh. This is why you cant go lategame with Lee. And esp why you dont feed him that much farm
That's westrice being westrice. Not lee sin.
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On April 13 2014 07:08 Redox wrote:
Just sad how useless the col top and mid laners are this game. I dont think Prolly ever hit more than 1 with his ult.
He had a decent run in the midgame where he hit 2 or 3 people, but its been very poor since then.
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looks like clbs midlaner isnt top notch this game.
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gleeb did a great job of stacking the shields whenever a shockwave came down, even if it doesn't hit too many people, locket + mantra E is a lot of extra hp on the team
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altec outplayed robert that entire series. c9t and clb always have close series (its been 2-1 last 3 series i think) but clb just seems too one dimensional. they always seem to play this splitpush game with west getting tons of farm. lee was just the wrong pick here
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i wish i would understand the lomo joke
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Rooting for the underdogs here. Go CA, gooooooooooooooo.
To my understanding lomo is just a bastardization of lmao. That's how I view it.
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On April 13 2014 07:17 Chrispy wrote:
Rooting for the underdogs here. Go CA, gooooooooooooooo.
To my understanding lomo is just a bastardization of lmao. That's how I view it.
vasilli pronounces lmao as "lomo"
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On April 13 2014 07:17 Chrispy wrote:
Rooting for the underdogs here. Go CA, gooooooooooooooo.
To my understanding lomo is just a bastardization of lmao. That's how I view it.
it has something to do with lmq i think
Edit: ok now i got it
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On April 13 2014 07:17 Chrispy wrote:
Rooting for the underdogs here. Go CA, gooooooooooooooo.
To my understanding lomo is just a bastardization of lmao. That's how I view it.
CA ain't no David, they are going to get crushed by Goliath
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Question: Coast is the one playing the challenger teams? Even though they will also play in the spring play off?
Theoretically, can Coast get 1st in Spring play off and still get relegated?
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On April 13 2014 07:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Question: Coast is the one playing the challenger teams? Even though they will also play in the spring play off?
Theoretically, can Coast get 1st in Spring play off and still get relegated?
no. loser of the 5th/6th match in LCS playoffs** gets relegated
**edited
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On April 13 2014 07:23 Steins;Gate wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 07:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Question: Coast is the one playing the challenger teams? Even though they will also play in the spring play off?
Theoretically, can Coast get 1st in Spring play off and still get relegated? no. loser of the 5th/6th match in LCS playoffs** gets relegated **edited
So, say if Coast won against CLG. DO they still need to play Curse on 5th/6th match>?
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CLG will have to play against loser of the other match to see who gets relegated
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I feel sorry for Curse Academy... given that LMQ can probably smash Curse, this looks like it could be painful.
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On April 13 2014 07:24 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 07:23 Steins;Gate wrote:On April 13 2014 07:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Question: Coast is the one playing the challenger teams? Even though they will also play in the spring play off?
Theoretically, can Coast get 1st in Spring play off and still get relegated? no. loser of the 5th/6th match in LCS playoffs** gets relegated **edited So, say if Coast won against CLG. DO they still need to play Curse on 5th/6th match>?
No, losers of the two first matches (CLG-Coast and Curse-Dig) will go into a 5th/6th place match with the loser being dropped down to the promo/relegation tournament (and having 1st pick of their opponent)
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What is this with Curse Academy? Did they change their jungler and support yet again?? There's no way they win this.
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On April 13 2014 07:25 Steins;Gate wrote:
CLG will have to play against loser of the other match to see who gets relegated
So CLG can also get relegated? Despite being 3rd in regular season?
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On April 13 2014 07:27 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 07:25 Steins;Gate wrote:
CLG will have to play against loser of the other match to see who gets relegated So CLG can also get relegated? Despite being 3rd in regular season?
If they lose to Coast and then lose to loser of Dig/Curse, then yes.
Not likely, but it's still possible.
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On April 13 2014 07:20 Steins;Gate wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 07:17 Chrispy wrote:
Rooting for the underdogs here. Go CA, gooooooooooooooo.
To my understanding lomo is just a bastardization of lmao. That's how I view it. CA ain't no David, they are going to get crushed by Goliath
Are you a believer in miracles?
I've seen miracles in everway. And I've seen miracles everday. Barons, invades, yolo strats, dirt
Fucking smite steals, how do they work?
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On April 13 2014 07:28 Apex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 07:27 Sufficiency wrote:On April 13 2014 07:25 Steins;Gate wrote:
CLG will have to play against loser of the other match to see who gets relegated So CLG can also get relegated? Despite being 3rd in regular season? If they lose to Coast and then lose to loser of Dig/Curse, then yes. Not likely, but it's still possible.
And even after this double loss they would still get to pick their challenger team first. So it is indeed highly unlikely.
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Dig plays Curse
Coast plays CLG.
The losers of those 2 games play against each other
The loser of that game picks a team from the top 3 Challenger teams to play against.
So any of those 4 teams can be relegated still.
Only TSM and C9 are safe atm.
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Looks like LMQ won this game already. Nidalee vs no initiation.
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I see. That's a rather.... weird format. Thanks for the explanations.
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Nidalee and Heal stacking. It's like a match made in heaven lomo
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The Soraka + Lulu + Graves looks like a season 2 protect the hyper carry comp.
I'm also a bit worried after seeing a 1/6 Lee 1v1 a 7/1 Lucian on QTPie's stream.
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Every summoner spell burned during that fight, except Smite and TP.
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On April 13 2014 07:37 Sufficiency wrote:
Every summoner spell burned during that fight, except Smite and TP.
I was going to say that :/
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Pat just went full retard there. WHY DO YOU THINK THE LIZARD IS THERE?!
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weird that ryze basically suicided without wards
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2k gold lead before 5mins.
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Is CA normally this terrible or is it nerves?
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CA: Pls be gentle this is first time
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CA getting read like Twilight by teenage girls.
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Excited to see if Curse Academy can get a kill this game...
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LMQ slaughtering CA god this is bloody
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"How to counter Feral Flare" "Take their jungle camps" lol.
On the plus, CA got a kill on board.
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they dont even dodge spears
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Well, they got a kill. Werf
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Killed Lee Sin for inhib, worth
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I didn't expect Curse to win this match but then again I didn't expect LMQ to try and throw. Admittedly they'd have to mess up repeatedly for Curse to stand a chance.
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k lmq being nice (and sloppy) now to CA. let's give them a few kills np
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Well
That was about as brutal as expected
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Brute forcing down the nexus like that, gotta give LMQ some style points for that.
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haha cant wait the see lmq vs xgd
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Noname did work that game. Then again, CA isn't exactly a good calibur, Pat was pretty much useless. Nidalee/Thresh should definitely be banned. I dunno why you would let Mor get Thresh, he's just a monster on it.
Looks better for CA already so far. Getting both Nidalee/Thresh from LMQ is good.
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meteos cant wait to meet lmq in lcs
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I knew it wouldn't happen, but I wanted that Nidalee spear to hit Lulu so badly.
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That was a pretty god snipe from XiaoWeiXiao.
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Yeah, great Lulu geometry!
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That was the worst fight ever by CA. so terror.
None of them had ults, so why did they think engaging full on was a good idea?
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CA is actually making great rotations despite bad team fighting. (Of course as I say that, they give up free Baron a min after ...)
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I hate this ryze build so much. T_T
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On April 13 2014 08:48 KissBlade wrote:
CA is actually making great rotations despite bad team fighting. (Of course as I say that, they give up free Baron a min after ...)
Haha, this edit. Mashme ruined it for his team. He didn't need that bottom farm 100%, and CA knew baron is still up in the air.
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Well... I mean. The right team is going to win I suppose.
Lulu shield is disgusting.
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How the hell does CA throw that early game lead lomo
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On April 13 2014 08:52 Chrispy wrote:
Well... I mean. The right team is going to win I suppose.
The problem I have is that CA had a real chance this game. They definitely had the chance to take the lead. The biggest problem is that sometimes their team fighting is just so bad. It's just frustrating to watch a team lose to their own inconsistency.
QSS on lucian rather than Banshees?
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Yeah Pat is retarded lol.
On April 13 2014 09:02 MooMooMugi wrote:
XWX carried that game no doubt
I'd say him and Ackerman. XWX def more so but Ackerman facilitated a lot of the late game too.
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XWX carried that game no doubt
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On April 13 2014 08:56 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 08:52 Chrispy wrote:
Well... I mean. The right team is going to win I suppose. The problem I have is that CA had a real chance this game. They definitely had the chance to take the lead. The biggest problem is that sometimes their team fighting is just so bad. It's just frustrating to watch a team lose to their own inconsistency. QSS on lucian rather than Banshees?
With lulu the chances of banshees staying up in sieges isn't that high, but still, yeah ~~
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I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially.
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On April 13 2014 09:11 Leeto wrote:
I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially.
Really? I actually think they win all their games by being mechanically better on comfort champs, yes but I think their rotations & teamfights are one of their strength.
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On April 13 2014 09:30 KissBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 09:11 Leeto wrote:
I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially. Really? I actually think they win all their games by being mechanically better on comfort champs, yes but I think their rotations & teamfights are one of their strength.
Yeah. This series really demonstrated their ability to play very different styles as well.
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my source says, there were at least few team in NA/EU, who wanted to buy LMQ
the one from EU is fnatic.
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On April 13 2014 09:11 Leeto wrote:
I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially.
Top-4 easily, considering level of NA LCS.
Not higher, probably a bit lower.
Challenger scene and actual LCS are too different from each other to expect same level of utter domination.
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On April 13 2014 21:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 09:11 Leeto wrote:
I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially. Top-4 easily, considering level of NA LCS. Not higher, probably a bit lower. Challenger scene and actual LCS are too different from each other to expect same level of utter domination.
which means teams like dignitas, curse, maybe even clg get more pressure and have to step up their game.
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Coast arguably dominated the challenger scene just as hard imo.
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Coast dominated so hard wizfujin and nintendude looked good. That alone makes them more dominating.
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On April 14 2014 01:19 Fusilero wrote:
Coast dominated so hard wizfujin and nintendude looked good. That alone makes them more dominating.
to be fair, noname is pretty fucking bad.
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On April 13 2014 23:57 TitusVI wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 21:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 09:11 Leeto wrote:
I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially. Top-4 easily, considering level of NA LCS. Not higher, probably a bit lower. Challenger scene and actual LCS are too different from each other to expect same level of utter domination. which means teams like dignitas, curse, maybe even clg get more pressure and have to step up their game.
TSM, C9 and CLG are 2 heads above LMQ if not more. There is absolutely no pressure.
Even Dignitas and Curse with non-slumping Voyboy are better than LMQ.
But EG, XDG and Coast are somewhere near, right.
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Mashme is the best player on Curse Academy? Damn, that sucks
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CA really should have went for the 2v2, it was obvious there was no way they were going to outpush complexity's comp and renekton has a really good matchup against jax.
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CLB looking pretty good.
Honestly I really like this lineup. RobertXLee/Westrice/Prolly pretty marketable and I can see them getting into LCS.
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That smite steal lol
also renekton killed himself by double slice and dice lolol
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On April 14 2014 04:23 ketchup wrote:
That smite steal lol
also renekton killed himself by double slice and dice lolol
That was painful lol. Rhux pls.
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On April 14 2014 04:23 ketchup wrote:
That smite steal lol
also renekton killed himself by double slice and dice lolol
Yeah he really didn't have to activate it a second time.. -_-
Interesting game so far though!
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I don't understand why CLB picked up brokenshard.
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if CLB wants to do well in the lcs brokenshard needs to improve or get replaced.
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On April 14 2014 01:41 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 23:57 TitusVI wrote:On April 13 2014 21:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 09:11 Leeto wrote:
I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially. Top-4 easily, considering level of NA LCS. Not higher, probably a bit lower. Challenger scene and actual LCS are too different from each other to expect same level of utter domination. which means teams like dignitas, curse, maybe even clg get more pressure and have to step up their game. TSM, C9 and CLG are 2 heads above LMQ if not more. There is absolutely no pressure. Even Dignitas and Curse with non-slumping Voyboy are better than LMQ. But EG, XDG and Coast are somewhere near, right.
Absolutely no pressure is a bit overstating it don't you think. Even XDG could take of games from every team in the LCS. So how would you be able to say a team that in skrims are getting the respect from the top LCS teams be a non factor in pressure?
On April 14 2014 04:27 ketchup wrote:
I don't understand why CLB picked up brokenshard.
I have to agree. Never was a big fan of brokenshard.
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Well that's one way to throw away a 2k lead.
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Trinity jax is so fast LOL
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Based Westrice showing how it's done.
RIP Epik.
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uh... rxlee is has the awareness of s2 doublelift
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Did Pat really R the Caitlyn with black shield? LOLOLOLOLOL
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This is the Mashme vs Westrice show.
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Is Pat a spy for Complexity? LOL
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Pat safeguarding to the stealthed Twitch is probably going to be the funniest play of the day.
Just why...why
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Okay, I'm starting to see why Robert replacing Zuna might not have actually fixed anything.
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On April 14 2014 04:55 Swords wrote:
Okay, I'm starting to see why Robert replacing Zuna might not have actually fixed anything.
It's easy for me to say this now, but I never understood what people saw in Robert. Sure he can look pretty good in the challenger scene, and I'm sure he can even have some good games against LCS players, but overall I would say he is below average.
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Are finals LAN or online?
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On April 14 2014 04:45 seRapH wrote:
uh... rxlee is has the awareness of s2 doublelift
I don't know. I think s2 doublelift can be considered better than this. I think rxlee is stuck in solo queue mentality, and still is learning his role in the team. I think he feels he has to carry his team. Since that isn't working out, he gets more and more aggressive(which is basically solo queue style). His positioning mistakes get punished a lot harder in games with the opponent team actually playing to win.
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On April 14 2014 04:56 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 04:55 Swords wrote:
Okay, I'm starting to see why Robert replacing Zuna might not have actually fixed anything. It's easy for me to say this now, but I never understood what people saw in Robert. Sure he can look pretty good in the challenger scene, and I'm sure he can even have some good games against LCS players, but overall I would say he is below average.
I think it was more a mentality of almost anyone at a pro-level would be better than Zuna, not necessarily that Robert was particularly good.
Robert's doing an incredible Zuna impersonation this game though - he's been completely out of position multiple times and paid with it for his life every time.
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That was literally the perfect initiation. Robert died too early.
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robert has been playing really bad last few weeks. wonder if he's getting enough time to practice considering his gf has been with him the last few weeks x.x
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On April 14 2014 04:58 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 04:56 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 04:55 Swords wrote:
Okay, I'm starting to see why Robert replacing Zuna might not have actually fixed anything. It's easy for me to say this now, but I never understood what people saw in Robert. Sure he can look pretty good in the challenger scene, and I'm sure he can even have some good games against LCS players, but overall I would say he is below average. I think it was more a mentality of almost anyone at a pro-level would be better than Zuna, not necessarily that Robert was particularly good. Robert's doing an incredible Zuna impersonation this game though - he's been completely out of position multiple times and paid with it for his life every time.
Meanwhile Westrice is channeling the Spartan.
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On April 14 2014 04:58 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 04:56 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 04:55 Swords wrote:
Okay, I'm starting to see why Robert replacing Zuna might not have actually fixed anything. It's easy for me to say this now, but I never understood what people saw in Robert. Sure he can look pretty good in the challenger scene, and I'm sure he can even have some good games against LCS players, but overall I would say he is below average. I think it was more a mentality of almost anyone at a pro-level would be better than Zuna, not necessarily that Robert was particularly good. Robert's doing an incredible Zuna impersonation this game though - he's been completely out of position multiple times and paid with it for his life every time.
Well when I always saw comments like "I can't believe they keep Zuna when they have Robert" it gives me the impression that they are saying he is way better. It doesn't make sense to bench someone and bring in someone new if they're not going to be an improvement, or not a noticeable one.
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On April 14 2014 05:02 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 04:58 Swords wrote:On April 14 2014 04:56 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 04:55 Swords wrote:
Okay, I'm starting to see why Robert replacing Zuna might not have actually fixed anything. It's easy for me to say this now, but I never understood what people saw in Robert. Sure he can look pretty good in the challenger scene, and I'm sure he can even have some good games against LCS players, but overall I would say he is below average. I think it was more a mentality of almost anyone at a pro-level would be better than Zuna, not necessarily that Robert was particularly good. Robert's doing an incredible Zuna impersonation this game though - he's been completely out of position multiple times and paid with it for his life every time. Well when I always saw comments like "I can't believe they keep Zuna when they have Robert" it gives me the impression that they are saying he is way better. It doesn't make sense to bench someone and bring in someone new if they're not going to be an improvement, or not a noticeable one.
Yeah, that was just my personal take on it. I mean, after watching Zuna rocket jump into 5 people every other game last season, it really seemed like your average Challenger level adc would be a noticeable improvement.
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what should westrice's 6th item be? gunblade? warmog? banshee?
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On April 14 2014 05:06 caelym wrote:
what should westrice's 6th item be? gunblade? warmog? banshee?
Thornmail I think
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Oh man that Kayle ult was so huge.
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OK.... Kayle's R's cooldown needs a nerf. WTF is that?!
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have to say that robert has been playing worst on his team for the last few weeks...definitely a turn around from months ago, when he was the leading kda on his team
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On April 14 2014 05:10 Sufficiency wrote:
OK.... Kayle's R's cooldown needs a nerf. WTF is that?!
It's always been like this
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On April 14 2014 05:10 Sufficiency wrote:
OK.... Kayle's R's cooldown needs a nerf. WTF is that?!
Kayle needs to get gutted. Happy Curse Academy won though
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did anyone see that prollys shockwaved a twitch with kayle ult? i think thats what lost them the fight. The bad thing was kayle ulted first....
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Wow IWD isn't looking like a douche.
+1 for you buddy.
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On April 14 2014 04:34 QuixoticO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 01:41 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 23:57 TitusVI wrote:On April 13 2014 21:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 09:11 Leeto wrote:
I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially. Top-4 easily, considering level of NA LCS. Not higher, probably a bit lower. Challenger scene and actual LCS are too different from each other to expect same level of utter domination. which means teams like dignitas, curse, maybe even clg get more pressure and have to step up their game. TSM, C9 and CLG are 2 heads above LMQ if not more. There is absolutely no pressure. Even Dignitas and Curse with non-slumping Voyboy are better than LMQ. But EG, XDG and Coast are somewhere near, right. Absolutely no pressure is a bit overstating it don't you think. Even XDG could take of games from every team in the LCS. So how would you be able to say a team that in skrims are getting the respect from the top LCS teams be a non factor in pressure? Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 04:27 ketchup wrote:
I don't understand why CLB picked up brokenshard. I have to agree. Never was a big fan of brokenshard.
If you can end every split 21-7 being 3-1 against every team i don't think you will be pressured a lot. Doublelift was saying openly that LMQ in scrims and LMQ on LAN are two completely different teams and Doublelift and CLG know better than anyone else what is it to be beasts in scrims and then being just mediocre on LAN.
Plus there is last season of LPL, where LMQ were almost the worst team and LPL, even if it was better than it is right now, constructed like NA LCS with nice tops and just bad mids/bottoms.
About Brokenshard.
He has his moments of brilliance but i still think that dropping heavenTime made DTG/TBD/CLB way worse than it was in FXO time.
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bronze level invades.... got nothing... jax with tele is also pretty much fcked down against renek on xp with ignite
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WESTRICE WTF why are you so good x.x
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Lol Pat somehow stole again, and when they stopped DPS on the dragon... how?!?! Hahaha
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if CA or CLB get into the LCS nintendude will have a serious contender for ''worst jungler in lcs''
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On April 14 2014 05:38 ParadeofMadness wrote:
if CA or CLB get into the LCS nintendude will have a serious contender for ''worst jungler in lcs''
Watching these games I'm thinking the chances of CA/CLB beating Coast/Dig/Crs are insanely low.
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Brokentard. What are you doing?
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These two teams both suck. No way in hell any of Dig/Curse or w/e lose to these guys
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Westrice drawing so much aggro and the rest of the team just sits around there masturbating.
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On April 14 2014 05:40 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 05:38 ParadeofMadness wrote:
if CA or CLB get into the LCS nintendude will have a serious contender for ''worst jungler in lcs'' Watching these games I'm thinking the chances of CA/CLB beating Coast/Dig/Crs are insanely low.
yeah i dont think so either. But just puzzled how do they find these shitter junglers??? Is the jungle talent pool in na this bad
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On April 14 2014 05:48 ParadeofMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 05:40 Swords wrote:On April 14 2014 05:38 ParadeofMadness wrote:
if CA or CLB get into the LCS nintendude will have a serious contender for ''worst jungler in lcs'' Watching these games I'm thinking the chances of CA/CLB beating Coast/Dig/Crs are insanely low. yeah i dont think so either. But just puzzled how do they find these shitter junglers??? Is the jungle talent pool in na this bad
#FreeAzingy
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On April 14 2014 05:48 ParadeofMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 05:40 Swords wrote:On April 14 2014 05:38 ParadeofMadness wrote:
if CA or CLB get into the LCS nintendude will have a serious contender for ''worst jungler in lcs'' Watching these games I'm thinking the chances of CA/CLB beating Coast/Dig/Crs are insanely low. yeah i dont think so either. But just puzzled how do they find these shitter junglers??? Is the jungle talent pool in na this bad
Hey come on that's not fair, brokenshard is from eu
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On April 14 2014 05:53 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 05:48 ParadeofMadness wrote:On April 14 2014 05:40 Swords wrote:On April 14 2014 05:38 ParadeofMadness wrote:
if CA or CLB get into the LCS nintendude will have a serious contender for ''worst jungler in lcs'' Watching these games I'm thinking the chances of CA/CLB beating Coast/Dig/Crs are insanely low. yeah i dont think so either. But just puzzled how do they find these shitter junglers??? Is the jungle talent pool in na this bad Hey come on that's not fair, brokenshard is from eu
#freeNKInc
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On April 14 2014 05:53 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 05:48 ParadeofMadness wrote:On April 14 2014 05:40 Swords wrote:On April 14 2014 05:38 ParadeofMadness wrote:
if CA or CLB get into the LCS nintendude will have a serious contender for ''worst jungler in lcs'' Watching these games I'm thinking the chances of CA/CLB beating Coast/Dig/Crs are insanely low. yeah i dont think so either. But just puzzled how do they find these shitter junglers??? Is the jungle talent pool in na this bad Hey come on that's not fair, brokenshard is from eu
wut he speaks like an american
edit: he's from israel apprarently
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So many fails in that fight
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this morgana is missing some not too difficult bindings...
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lol legit Quadra kill, pity penta kill
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RobertoXPentakill
Both these teams make mistakes that any LCS team would take advantage of. Even XDG/EG would have good odds vs them.
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On April 14 2014 05:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 04:34 QuixoticO wrote:On April 14 2014 01:41 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 23:57 TitusVI wrote:On April 13 2014 21:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 09:11 Leeto wrote:
I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially. Top-4 easily, considering level of NA LCS. Not higher, probably a bit lower. Challenger scene and actual LCS are too different from each other to expect same level of utter domination. which means teams like dignitas, curse, maybe even clg get more pressure and have to step up their game. TSM, C9 and CLG are 2 heads above LMQ if not more. There is absolutely no pressure. Even Dignitas and Curse with non-slumping Voyboy are better than LMQ. But EG, XDG and Coast are somewhere near, right. Absolutely no pressure is a bit overstating it don't you think. Even XDG could take of games from every team in the LCS. So how would you be able to say a team that in skrims are getting the respect from the top LCS teams be a non factor in pressure? On April 14 2014 04:27 ketchup wrote:
I don't understand why CLB picked up brokenshard. I have to agree. Never was a big fan of brokenshard. If you can end every split 21-7 being 3-1 against every team i don't think you will be pressured a lot. Doublelift was saying openly that LMQ in scrims and LMQ on LAN are two completely different teams and Doublelift and CLG know better than anyone else what is it to be beasts in scrims and then being just mediocre on LAN. Plus there is last season of LPL, where LMQ were almost the worst team and LPL, even if it was better than it is right now, constructed like NA LCS with nice tops and just bad mids/bottoms. About Brokenshard. He has his moments of brilliance but i still think that dropping heavenTime made DTG/TBD/CLB way worse than it was in FXO time.
Well if you're going to bring up Doublelift's comment, you should probably take in context that DL meant LMQ takes LAN more seriously than scrim/NACL ... so umm yeah.
You seem to have a lot against LMQ though, you're consistently the one downplaying them even going so far as to say in some other thread that they were going to struggle against C9T during the finals???
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is this for 3rd place or final?
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On April 14 2014 06:30 wei2coolman wrote:
is this for 3rd place or final?
Well LMQ is not playing so...
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On April 14 2014 06:30 Chicane wrote:Well LMQ is not playing so...
touche'.
surprised 3rd place is a bo5.
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On April 14 2014 06:13 KissBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 05:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 04:34 QuixoticO wrote:On April 14 2014 01:41 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 23:57 TitusVI wrote:On April 13 2014 21:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 09:11 Leeto wrote:
I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially. Top-4 easily, considering level of NA LCS. Not higher, probably a bit lower. Challenger scene and actual LCS are too different from each other to expect same level of utter domination. which means teams like dignitas, curse, maybe even clg get more pressure and have to step up their game. TSM, C9 and CLG are 2 heads above LMQ if not more. There is absolutely no pressure. Even Dignitas and Curse with non-slumping Voyboy are better than LMQ. But EG, XDG and Coast are somewhere near, right. Absolutely no pressure is a bit overstating it don't you think. Even XDG could take of games from every team in the LCS. So how would you be able to say a team that in skrims are getting the respect from the top LCS teams be a non factor in pressure? On April 14 2014 04:27 ketchup wrote:
I don't understand why CLB picked up brokenshard. I have to agree. Never was a big fan of brokenshard. If you can end every split 21-7 being 3-1 against every team i don't think you will be pressured a lot. Doublelift was saying openly that LMQ in scrims and LMQ on LAN are two completely different teams and Doublelift and CLG know better than anyone else what is it to be beasts in scrims and then being just mediocre on LAN. Plus there is last season of LPL, where LMQ were almost the worst team and LPL, even if it was better than it is right now, constructed like NA LCS with nice tops and just bad mids/bottoms. About Brokenshard. He has his moments of brilliance but i still think that dropping heavenTime made DTG/TBD/CLB way worse than it was in FXO time. Well if you're going to bring up Doublelift's comment, you should probably take in context that DL meant LMQ takes LAN more seriously than scrim/NACL ... so umm yeah. You seem to have a lot against LMQ though, you're consistently the one downplaying them even going so far as to say in some other thread that they were going to struggle against C9T during the finals???
Lol dude, use brains once.
First of all, i was hoping that C9T will win because i clearly support C9E and C9T, not cheering a second for C9.Prime.
And i have nothing against LoMoQ, they seem funny and humble guys.
LMQ are playing against Challenger teams right now. How many good teams are there? Choking CLB? C9T with Bischu/Yazuki who choke every LAN event he plays? Team 8 were fucked by richierich, other teams don't deserve to be named.
Will they go same against NA LCS teams? No. Will they be on level of TSM/CLG/C9 who are clearly WAY better than whole NA LCS? No. Will they be on level of EG/XDG last split? No. So they will be on Dignitas/Curse/Coast level, which is ok if they don't want to be eliminated.
And you just need to ask Cheep about LMQ's chances, even though we were speaking about it 1-2 weeks ago. Middle of the pack - not higher, not lower, if they use this roster. If Uzi comes though, things can change.
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God damn it, this doublepost.
If CLB loses, i will literally laugh. Curse, pls, choose CA you're 6th.
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that xp difference on botlane is insane. rofl level 6 vayne vs level 4 lucian.
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westrice so questionable >.>
this is like the millionth time i've seen him blow flash when he's dead no matter what.
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Going to admit as an 'anti-fan' of Brokenshard this has been a great series to watch.
I miss when Pr0lly was an LCS quality mid though :/
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On April 14 2014 06:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
God damn it, this doublepost.
If CLB loses, i will literally laugh. Curse, pls, choose CA you're 6th.
They should at least swap out Vooby/Cop and try out Mashme/Duocek imo.
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I don't understand complexity's teamcomp. ._.
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On April 14 2014 06:34 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:13 KissBlade wrote:On April 14 2014 05:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 04:34 QuixoticO wrote:On April 14 2014 01:41 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 23:57 TitusVI wrote:On April 13 2014 21:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 09:11 Leeto wrote:
I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially. Top-4 easily, considering level of NA LCS. Not higher, probably a bit lower. Challenger scene and actual LCS are too different from each other to expect same level of utter domination. which means teams like dignitas, curse, maybe even clg get more pressure and have to step up their game. TSM, C9 and CLG are 2 heads above LMQ if not more. There is absolutely no pressure. Even Dignitas and Curse with non-slumping Voyboy are better than LMQ. But EG, XDG and Coast are somewhere near, right. Absolutely no pressure is a bit overstating it don't you think. Even XDG could take of games from every team in the LCS. So how would you be able to say a team that in skrims are getting the respect from the top LCS teams be a non factor in pressure? On April 14 2014 04:27 ketchup wrote:
I don't understand why CLB picked up brokenshard. I have to agree. Never was a big fan of brokenshard. If you can end every split 21-7 being 3-1 against every team i don't think you will be pressured a lot. Doublelift was saying openly that LMQ in scrims and LMQ on LAN are two completely different teams and Doublelift and CLG know better than anyone else what is it to be beasts in scrims and then being just mediocre on LAN. Plus there is last season of LPL, where LMQ were almost the worst team and LPL, even if it was better than it is right now, constructed like NA LCS with nice tops and just bad mids/bottoms. About Brokenshard. He has his moments of brilliance but i still think that dropping heavenTime made DTG/TBD/CLB way worse than it was in FXO time. Well if you're going to bring up Doublelift's comment, you should probably take in context that DL meant LMQ takes LAN more seriously than scrim/NACL ... so umm yeah. You seem to have a lot against LMQ though, you're consistently the one downplaying them even going so far as to say in some other thread that they were going to struggle against C9T during the finals??? Lol dude, use brains once. First of all, i was hoping that C9T will win because i clearly support C9E and C9T, not cheering a second for C9.Prime. And i have nothing against LoMoQ, they seem funny and humble guys. LMQ are playing against Challenger teams right now. How many good teams are there? Choking CLB? C9T with Bischu/Yazuki who choke every LAN event he plays? Team 8 were fucked by richierich, other teams don't deserve to be named. Will they go same against NA LCS teams? No. Will they be on level of TSM/CLG/C9 who are clearly WAY better than whole NA LCS? No. Will they be on level of EG/XDG last split? No. So they will be on Dignitas/Curse/Coast level, which is ok if they don't want to be eliminated. And you just need to ask Cheep about LMQ's chances, even though we were speaking about it 1-2 weeks ago. Middle of the pack - not higher, not lower, if they use this roster. If Uzi comes though, things can change.
Awfully defensive are we? You don't have to justify your opinion to me lol. I know where LMQ is likely to place and I'm pretty sure I'm on the same page with Cheep on it so I don't really need to ask him for it.
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On April 14 2014 06:41 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
God damn it, this doublepost.
If CLB loses, i will literally laugh. Curse, pls, choose CA you're 6th. They should at least swap out Vooby/Cop and try out Mashme/Duocek imo.
Lol, Duocek was atrocious whole Challenger Series.
I have no idea how did he play yesterday against LoMoQ and how did he play in previous games, but i will pick Voyboy from those 11/10 times.
And MashMe had his chances in LCS already, it was bad.
On April 14 2014 06:44 KissBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:34 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:13 KissBlade wrote:On April 14 2014 05:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 04:34 QuixoticO wrote:On April 14 2014 01:41 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 23:57 TitusVI wrote:On April 13 2014 21:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 09:11 Leeto wrote:
I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially. Top-4 easily, considering level of NA LCS. Not higher, probably a bit lower. Challenger scene and actual LCS are too different from each other to expect same level of utter domination. which means teams like dignitas, curse, maybe even clg get more pressure and have to step up their game. TSM, C9 and CLG are 2 heads above LMQ if not more. There is absolutely no pressure. Even Dignitas and Curse with non-slumping Voyboy are better than LMQ. But EG, XDG and Coast are somewhere near, right. Absolutely no pressure is a bit overstating it don't you think. Even XDG could take of games from every team in the LCS. So how would you be able to say a team that in skrims are getting the respect from the top LCS teams be a non factor in pressure? On April 14 2014 04:27 ketchup wrote:
I don't understand why CLB picked up brokenshard. I have to agree. Never was a big fan of brokenshard. If you can end every split 21-7 being 3-1 against every team i don't think you will be pressured a lot. Doublelift was saying openly that LMQ in scrims and LMQ on LAN are two completely different teams and Doublelift and CLG know better than anyone else what is it to be beasts in scrims and then being just mediocre on LAN. Plus there is last season of LPL, where LMQ were almost the worst team and LPL, even if it was better than it is right now, constructed like NA LCS with nice tops and just bad mids/bottoms. About Brokenshard. He has his moments of brilliance but i still think that dropping heavenTime made DTG/TBD/CLB way worse than it was in FXO time. Well if you're going to bring up Doublelift's comment, you should probably take in context that DL meant LMQ takes LAN more seriously than scrim/NACL ... so umm yeah. You seem to have a lot against LMQ though, you're consistently the one downplaying them even going so far as to say in some other thread that they were going to struggle against C9T during the finals??? Lol dude, use brains once. First of all, i was hoping that C9T will win because i clearly support C9E and C9T, not cheering a second for C9.Prime. And i have nothing against LoMoQ, they seem funny and humble guys. LMQ are playing against Challenger teams right now. How many good teams are there? Choking CLB? C9T with Bischu/Yazuki who choke every LAN event he plays? Team 8 were fucked by richierich, other teams don't deserve to be named. Will they go same against NA LCS teams? No. Will they be on level of TSM/CLG/C9 who are clearly WAY better than whole NA LCS? No. Will they be on level of EG/XDG last split? No. So they will be on Dignitas/Curse/Coast level, which is ok if they don't want to be eliminated. And you just need to ask Cheep about LMQ's chances, even though we were speaking about it 1-2 weeks ago. Middle of the pack - not higher, not lower, if they use this roster. If Uzi comes though, things can change. Awfully defensive are we? You don't have to justify your opinion to me lol. I know where LMQ is likely to place and I'm pretty sure I'm on the same page with Cheep on it so I don't really need to ask him for it.
Ye, 28-0 LMQ, sadly enough you will be sad.
And i hate opinions without justifying, just fyi. They can't be called as opinions if you have no arguments in their defence.
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On April 14 2014 06:41 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
God damn it, this doublepost.
If CLB loses, i will literally laugh. Curse, pls, choose CA you're 6th. They should at least swap out Vooby/Cop and try out Mashme/Duocek imo.
mashme was so shit last season in lcs, i don't think he's gotten any better. i think cop still prolly better than mash.
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Why didn't lulu flash over the wall wtf
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On April 14 2014 06:45 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:41 Doctorbeat wrote:On April 14 2014 06:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
God damn it, this doublepost.
If CLB loses, i will literally laugh. Curse, pls, choose CA you're 6th. They should at least swap out Vooby/Cop and try out Mashme/Duocek imo. mashme was so shit last season in lcs, i don't think he's gotten any better. i think cop still prolly better than mash.
It just sucks that the pool of LCS quality players is so small. If it were bigger, at least the current LCS players would have to be afraid of getting subbed out. Knowing that there is little competition, it is easier for players to get complacent, especially when they aren't in the position of winning or getting into playoffs.
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Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason?
A lot of people are saying he was shit, but I just thought he was below average in the LCS, not awful. He certainly gave me a better impression than Wiz has.
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On April 14 2014 06:48 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:45 wei2coolman wrote:On April 14 2014 06:41 Doctorbeat wrote:On April 14 2014 06:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
God damn it, this doublepost.
If CLB loses, i will literally laugh. Curse, pls, choose CA you're 6th. They should at least swap out Vooby/Cop and try out Mashme/Duocek imo. mashme was so shit last season in lcs, i don't think he's gotten any better. i think cop still prolly better than mash. It just sucks that the pool of LCS quality players is so small. If it were bigger, at least the current LCS players would have to be afraid of getting subbed out. Knowing that there is little competition, it is easier for players to get complacent, especially when they aren't in the position of winning or getting into playoffs.
ADC is probably best relatively good spot NA has, especially at LCS level.
Dat mashme 1v2, he thinks he's DL.
On April 14 2014 06:49 Chicane wrote:
Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason?
A lot of people are saying he was shit, but I just thought he was below average in the LCS, not awful. He certainly gave me a better impression than Wiz has.
Mash can't play anything other than twitch, and even then he would always just get caught out and cause Coast to lose. (GGU). Wiz is definitely an upgrade imo.
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whoever advances is going to get smashed so hard
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 14 2014 06:45 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:41 Doctorbeat wrote:On April 14 2014 06:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
God damn it, this doublepost.
If CLB loses, i will literally laugh. Curse, pls, choose CA you're 6th. They should at least swap out Vooby/Cop and try out Mashme/Duocek imo. Lol, Duocek was atrocious whole Challenger Series. I have no idea how did he play yesterday against LoMoQ and how did he play in previous games, but i will pick Voyboy from those 11/10 times. And MashMe had his chances in LCS already, it was bad. Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:44 KissBlade wrote:On April 14 2014 06:34 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:13 KissBlade wrote:On April 14 2014 05:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 04:34 QuixoticO wrote:On April 14 2014 01:41 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 23:57 TitusVI wrote:On April 13 2014 21:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 09:11 Leeto wrote:
I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially. Top-4 easily, considering level of NA LCS. Not higher, probably a bit lower. Challenger scene and actual LCS are too different from each other to expect same level of utter domination. which means teams like dignitas, curse, maybe even clg get more pressure and have to step up their game. TSM, C9 and CLG are 2 heads above LMQ if not more. There is absolutely no pressure. Even Dignitas and Curse with non-slumping Voyboy are better than LMQ. But EG, XDG and Coast are somewhere near, right. Absolutely no pressure is a bit overstating it don't you think. Even XDG could take of games from every team in the LCS. So how would you be able to say a team that in skrims are getting the respect from the top LCS teams be a non factor in pressure? On April 14 2014 04:27 ketchup wrote:
I don't understand why CLB picked up brokenshard. I have to agree. Never was a big fan of brokenshard. If you can end every split 21-7 being 3-1 against every team i don't think you will be pressured a lot. Doublelift was saying openly that LMQ in scrims and LMQ on LAN are two completely different teams and Doublelift and CLG know better than anyone else what is it to be beasts in scrims and then being just mediocre on LAN. Plus there is last season of LPL, where LMQ were almost the worst team and LPL, even if it was better than it is right now, constructed like NA LCS with nice tops and just bad mids/bottoms. About Brokenshard. He has his moments of brilliance but i still think that dropping heavenTime made DTG/TBD/CLB way worse than it was in FXO time. Well if you're going to bring up Doublelift's comment, you should probably take in context that DL meant LMQ takes LAN more seriously than scrim/NACL ... so umm yeah. You seem to have a lot against LMQ though, you're consistently the one downplaying them even going so far as to say in some other thread that they were going to struggle against C9T during the finals??? Lol dude, use brains once. First of all, i was hoping that C9T will win because i clearly support C9E and C9T, not cheering a second for C9.Prime. And i have nothing against LoMoQ, they seem funny and humble guys. LMQ are playing against Challenger teams right now. How many good teams are there? Choking CLB? C9T with Bischu/Yazuki who choke every LAN event he plays? Team 8 were fucked by richierich, other teams don't deserve to be named. Will they go same against NA LCS teams? No. Will they be on level of TSM/CLG/C9 who are clearly WAY better than whole NA LCS? No. Will they be on level of EG/XDG last split? No. So they will be on Dignitas/Curse/Coast level, which is ok if they don't want to be eliminated. And you just need to ask Cheep about LMQ's chances, even though we were speaking about it 1-2 weeks ago. Middle of the pack - not higher, not lower, if they use this roster. If Uzi comes though, things can change. Awfully defensive are we? You don't have to justify your opinion to me lol. I know where LMQ is likely to place and I'm pretty sure I'm on the same page with Cheep on it so I don't really need to ask him for it. Ye, 28-0 LMQ, sadly enough you will be sad. And i hate opinions without justifying, just fyi. They can't be called as opinions if you have no arguments in their defence.
Actually that's what opinions are. They're by nature. Much like your justifications where you're more or less just putting your own hyperbolic opinions.
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On April 14 2014 06:49 Chicane wrote:
Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason?
Because MashMe was absolutely awful and irrelevant in Summer Split, averaging something like 2,8 kills per game.
Yellowpete and Cop are just laughing somewhere
On April 14 2014 06:49 KissBlade wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 14 2014 06:45 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:41 Doctorbeat wrote:On April 14 2014 06:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
God damn it, this doublepost.
If CLB loses, i will literally laugh. Curse, pls, choose CA you're 6th. They should at least swap out Vooby/Cop and try out Mashme/Duocek imo. Lol, Duocek was atrocious whole Challenger Series. I have no idea how did he play yesterday against LoMoQ and how did he play in previous games, but i will pick Voyboy from those 11/10 times. And MashMe had his chances in LCS already, it was bad. Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:44 KissBlade wrote:On April 14 2014 06:34 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:13 KissBlade wrote:On April 14 2014 05:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 04:34 QuixoticO wrote:On April 14 2014 01:41 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 23:57 TitusVI wrote:On April 13 2014 21:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 13 2014 09:11 Leeto wrote:
I really wanna see how LMQ does in the LCS. It seems they win all their games by just being mechanically better than their opponents. XWX especially. Top-4 easily, considering level of NA LCS. Not higher, probably a bit lower. Challenger scene and actual LCS are too different from each other to expect same level of utter domination. which means teams like dignitas, curse, maybe even clg get more pressure and have to step up their game. TSM, C9 and CLG are 2 heads above LMQ if not more. There is absolutely no pressure. Even Dignitas and Curse with non-slumping Voyboy are better than LMQ. But EG, XDG and Coast are somewhere near, right. Absolutely no pressure is a bit overstating it don't you think. Even XDG could take of games from every team in the LCS. So how would you be able to say a team that in skrims are getting the respect from the top LCS teams be a non factor in pressure? On April 14 2014 04:27 ketchup wrote:
I don't understand why CLB picked up brokenshard. I have to agree. Never was a big fan of brokenshard. If you can end every split 21-7 being 3-1 against every team i don't think you will be pressured a lot. Doublelift was saying openly that LMQ in scrims and LMQ on LAN are two completely different teams and Doublelift and CLG know better than anyone else what is it to be beasts in scrims and then being just mediocre on LAN. Plus there is last season of LPL, where LMQ were almost the worst team and LPL, even if it was better than it is right now, constructed like NA LCS with nice tops and just bad mids/bottoms. About Brokenshard. He has his moments of brilliance but i still think that dropping heavenTime made DTG/TBD/CLB way worse than it was in FXO time. Well if you're going to bring up Doublelift's comment, you should probably take in context that DL meant LMQ takes LAN more seriously than scrim/NACL ... so umm yeah. You seem to have a lot against LMQ though, you're consistently the one downplaying them even going so far as to say in some other thread that they were going to struggle against C9T during the finals??? Lol dude, use brains once. First of all, i was hoping that C9T will win because i clearly support C9E and C9T, not cheering a second for C9.Prime. And i have nothing against LoMoQ, they seem funny and humble guys. LMQ are playing against Challenger teams right now. How many good teams are there? Choking CLB? C9T with Bischu/Yazuki who choke every LAN event he plays? Team 8 were fucked by richierich, other teams don't deserve to be named. Will they go same against NA LCS teams? No. Will they be on level of TSM/CLG/C9 who are clearly WAY better than whole NA LCS? No. Will they be on level of EG/XDG last split? No. So they will be on Dignitas/Curse/Coast level, which is ok if they don't want to be eliminated. And you just need to ask Cheep about LMQ's chances, even though we were speaking about it 1-2 weeks ago. Middle of the pack - not higher, not lower, if they use this roster. If Uzi comes though, things can change. Awfully defensive are we? You don't have to justify your opinion to me lol. I know where LMQ is likely to place and I'm pretty sure I'm on the same page with Cheep on it so I don't really need to ask him for it. Ye, 28-0 LMQ, sadly enough you will be sad. And i hate opinions without justifying, just fyi. They can't be called as opinions if you have no arguments in their defence. Actually that's what opinions are. They're by nature. Much like your justifications where you're more or less just putting your own hyperbolic opinions.
I don't like blind hyping. Time will tell how will LoMoQ perform in LCS, right now they have to beat XDG first.
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Mashme: GG 1v9 report team
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On April 14 2014 06:48 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:45 wei2coolman wrote:On April 14 2014 06:41 Doctorbeat wrote:On April 14 2014 06:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
God damn it, this doublepost.
If CLB loses, i will literally laugh. Curse, pls, choose CA you're 6th. They should at least swap out Vooby/Cop and try out Mashme/Duocek imo. mashme was so shit last season in lcs, i don't think he's gotten any better. i think cop still prolly better than mash. It just sucks that the pool of LCS quality players is so small. If it were bigger, at least the current LCS players would have to be afraid of getting subbed out. Knowing that there is little competition, it is easier for players to get complacent, especially when they aren't in the position of winning or getting into playoffs.
It is a very good thing that there is a nicely visible skill difference at the top of pro LoL.
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Wouldn't it be cool if we got like a KOTH type format for a once a week bo1/3? Could be LCS+CS teams competing. It's hard for CS teams to get LAN experience, especially with the way competition is set up atm. So LCS teams have a natural advantage.
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On April 14 2014 06:52 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:48 Doctorbeat wrote:On April 14 2014 06:45 wei2coolman wrote:On April 14 2014 06:41 Doctorbeat wrote:On April 14 2014 06:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
God damn it, this doublepost.
If CLB loses, i will literally laugh. Curse, pls, choose CA you're 6th. They should at least swap out Vooby/Cop and try out Mashme/Duocek imo. mashme was so shit last season in lcs, i don't think he's gotten any better. i think cop still prolly better than mash. It just sucks that the pool of LCS quality players is so small. If it were bigger, at least the current LCS players would have to be afraid of getting subbed out. Knowing that there is little competition, it is easier for players to get complacent, especially when they aren't in the position of winning or getting into playoffs. It is a very good thing that there is a nicely visible skill difference at the top of pro LoL.
It's not good thing to have 3/4 relevant guys on each position, when OGN have 8-10 beasts and other guys who still will be relevant in every LCS team.
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this hypercarry comp CA is running is pretty fun to watch. lets' see if mashme put on his doublelift trouser today.
On April 14 2014 06:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:52 Redox wrote:On April 14 2014 06:48 Doctorbeat wrote:On April 14 2014 06:45 wei2coolman wrote:On April 14 2014 06:41 Doctorbeat wrote:On April 14 2014 06:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
God damn it, this doublepost.
If CLB loses, i will literally laugh. Curse, pls, choose CA you're 6th. They should at least swap out Vooby/Cop and try out Mashme/Duocek imo. mashme was so shit last season in lcs, i don't think he's gotten any better. i think cop still prolly better than mash. It just sucks that the pool of LCS quality players is so small. If it were bigger, at least the current LCS players would have to be afraid of getting subbed out. Knowing that there is little competition, it is easier for players to get complacent, especially when they aren't in the position of winning or getting into playoffs. It is a very good thing that there is a nicely visible skill difference at the top of pro LoL. It's not good thing to have 3/4 relevant guys on each position, when OGN have 8-10 beasts and other guys who still will be relevant in every LCS team.
there's still a solid separation in OGN, they're just so far ahead so their 2nd tier players look great in comparison to NA top tier players.
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Regardless of who wins this bo5, I think Dig/Curse/Coast is not worried.
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brokenshard does an incredible job to giveth nothing to his team but taketh everything away.
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I will laugh if Curse actually chooses Curse A for relegation.
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On April 14 2014 06:57 Sufficiency wrote:
I will laugh if Curse actually chooses Curse A for relegation.
#freenyjacky.
one of my favorite mid players, so sad he slumped so hard.
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On April 14 2014 06:57 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:57 Sufficiency wrote:
I will laugh if Curse actually chooses Curse A for relegation. #freenyjacky. one of my favorite mid players, so sad he slumped so hard.
I wonder if Riot will even let them do that. It just feels so wrong.
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On April 14 2014 06:59 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:57 wei2coolman wrote:On April 14 2014 06:57 Sufficiency wrote:
I will laugh if Curse actually chooses Curse A for relegation. #freenyjacky. one of my favorite mid players, so sad he slumped so hard. I wonder if Riot will even let them do that. It just feels so wrong.
Curse Academy will be just dropped to another Curse's company.
Stakes are high, don't think that they will just throw.
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On April 14 2014 06:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:49 Chicane wrote:
Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason? Because MashMe was absolutely awful and irrelevant in Summer Split, averaging something like 2,8 kills per game. Yellowpete and Cop are just laughing somewhere
I don't remember him being that bad, even though he was in the bottom half. I don't recall him suiciding or getting caught nearly as much as Zuna, and he actually seemed to be pretty solid and carry his team relatively often.
Yeah his twitch was where he shined most and he was pretty average/below average (relative to other LCS players) otherwise, but I am just not impressed by Wiz at all who really adds nothing to the team other than having a handful of impressive games. He also gets caught plenty and just makes some mechanically poor plays.
In any case I always felt Nintendude was the biggest problem back then for Coast (and still is) so I feel like he should have been the place to start in terms of replacing teammates. I could definitely see Mashme being replaced if they found someone better to replace him with right away, but benching him and then having tryouts afterwards seemed questionable to me, given that IMO they had bigger problems.
Edit: Huh that was strange, I quoted this quote, backed out and then quoted another one... responded to it, and then it replied to this quote.... I meant to reply to wei2coolman
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On April 14 2014 07:03 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:49 Chicane wrote:
Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason? Because MashMe was absolutely awful and irrelevant in Summer Split, averaging something like 2,8 kills per game. Yellowpete and Cop are just laughing somewhere I don't remember him being that bad, even though he was in the bottom half. I don't recall him suiciding or getting caught nearly as much as Zuna, and he actually seemed to be pretty solid and carry his team relatively often. Yeah his twitch was where he shined most and he was pretty average/below average (relative to other LCS players) otherwise, but I am just not impressed by Wiz at all who really adds nothing to the team other than having a handful of impressive games. He also gets caught plenty and just makes some mechanically poor plays. In any case I always felt Nintendude was the biggest problem back then for Coast (and still is) so I feel like he should have been the place to start in terms of replacing teammates. I could definitely see Mashme being replaced if they found someone better to replace him with right away, but benching him and then having tryouts afterwards seemed questionable to me, given that IMO they had bigger problems. Edit: Huh that was strange, I quoted that one, backed out and then quoted another one... responded to it, and then it replied to this one.... I meant to reply to wei2coolman
http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/season-3/split2/stats
77 kills is just awful, even maplestreet playing for ridiculously bad Velocity got more, considering that they lost 23 games from 28. Coast were absolutely impotent if you remember, right now they're team of 2 threats but last summer Zion was playing alone with Shiphtur slumping whole season.
Who knows, probably Wiz will come big next season like Shiphtur, we can't say right now.
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On April 14 2014 07:03 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:49 Chicane wrote:
Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason? Because MashMe was absolutely awful and irrelevant in Summer Split, averaging something like 2,8 kills per game. Yellowpete and Cop are just laughing somewhere I don't remember him being that bad, even though he was in the bottom half. I don't recall him suiciding or getting caught nearly as much as Zuna, and he actually seemed to be pretty solid and carry his team relatively often. Yeah his twitch was where he shined most and he was pretty average/below average (relative to other LCS players) otherwise, but I am just not impressed by Wiz at all who really adds nothing to the team other than having a handful of impressive games. He also gets caught plenty and just makes some mechanically poor plays. In any case I always felt Nintendude was the biggest problem back then for Coast (and still is) so I feel like he should have been the place to start in terms of replacing teammates. I could definitely see Mashme being replaced if they found someone better to replace him with right away, but benching him and then having tryouts afterwards seemed questionable to me, given that IMO they had bigger problems. Edit: Huh that was strange, I quoted this quote, backed out and then quoted another one... responded to it, and then it replied to this quote.... I meant to reply to wei2coolman
Tend to agree, though it seems to be that Coast felt that they were a play away from joining the top teams and that player was Mashme, though that does appear to have been the wrong decision, since Nintendude is clearly their worst player this split (runner up being Daydreaming, who is fine but you'd have to say ranks amongst the bottom of LCS supports). Wiz is also certainly not the upgrade they assumed he would me.
For me, Mashme was never spectacular but he'd get in good runs of form where he'd just randomly carry games (I remember him outplaying Doublelift on one occassion). If he's your worst player you're probably an OK team, but if he's your best player, you are in trouble.
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On April 14 2014 07:07 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 07:03 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 06:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:49 Chicane wrote:
Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason? Because MashMe was absolutely awful and irrelevant in Summer Split, averaging something like 2,8 kills per game. Yellowpete and Cop are just laughing somewhere I don't remember him being that bad, even though he was in the bottom half. I don't recall him suiciding or getting caught nearly as much as Zuna, and he actually seemed to be pretty solid and carry his team relatively often. Yeah his twitch was where he shined most and he was pretty average/below average (relative to other LCS players) otherwise, but I am just not impressed by Wiz at all who really adds nothing to the team other than having a handful of impressive games. He also gets caught plenty and just makes some mechanically poor plays. In any case I always felt Nintendude was the biggest problem back then for Coast (and still is) so I feel like he should have been the place to start in terms of replacing teammates. I could definitely see Mashme being replaced if they found someone better to replace him with right away, but benching him and then having tryouts afterwards seemed questionable to me, given that IMO they had bigger problems. Edit: Huh that was strange, I quoted that one, backed out and then quoted another one... responded to it, and then it replied to this one.... I meant to reply to wei2coolman http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/season-3/split2/stats77 kills is just awful, even maplestreet playing for ridiculously bad Velocity got more, considering that they lost 23 games from 28. Coast were absolutely impotent if you remember, right now they're team of 2 threats but last summer Zion was playing alone with Shiphtur slumping whole season. Who knows, probably Wiz will come big next season like Shiphtur, we can't say right now.
As long as we are selectively picking stats here
Mashme's KDA 3.51 > Doublelift's 3.49 KDA
Clearly Mashme should be joining CLG anyday now.
Edit: This came off snippy so I want to say that I don't think we should be basing anything based on the rather terrible stats that are trotted out in pro LoL...I think they illuminate only rarely.
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On April 14 2014 07:14 Amethyst21 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 07:07 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 07:03 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 06:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:49 Chicane wrote:
Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason? Because MashMe was absolutely awful and irrelevant in Summer Split, averaging something like 2,8 kills per game. Yellowpete and Cop are just laughing somewhere I don't remember him being that bad, even though he was in the bottom half. I don't recall him suiciding or getting caught nearly as much as Zuna, and he actually seemed to be pretty solid and carry his team relatively often. Yeah his twitch was where he shined most and he was pretty average/below average (relative to other LCS players) otherwise, but I am just not impressed by Wiz at all who really adds nothing to the team other than having a handful of impressive games. He also gets caught plenty and just makes some mechanically poor plays. In any case I always felt Nintendude was the biggest problem back then for Coast (and still is) so I feel like he should have been the place to start in terms of replacing teammates. I could definitely see Mashme being replaced if they found someone better to replace him with right away, but benching him and then having tryouts afterwards seemed questionable to me, given that IMO they had bigger problems. Edit: Huh that was strange, I quoted that one, backed out and then quoted another one... responded to it, and then it replied to this one.... I meant to reply to wei2coolman http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/season-3/split2/stats77 kills is just awful, even maplestreet playing for ridiculously bad Velocity got more, considering that they lost 23 games from 28. Coast were absolutely impotent if you remember, right now they're team of 2 threats but last summer Zion was playing alone with Shiphtur slumping whole season. Who knows, probably Wiz will come big next season like Shiphtur, we can't say right now. As long as we are selectively picking stats here Mashme's KDA 3.51 > Doublelift's 3.49 KDA Clearly Mashme should be joining CLG anyday now.
That website is a mess for me and I can't even see anyone under Velocity for season 3, but it looks like Mashme was slightly behind doublelift.
But yeah I think it's ridiculous to just look at specific stats. Some teams relied more on certain players to get kills like Velocity often relied on maple. And also some teams go for many more kills than others.
I'm not going to bother picking and choosing which stats I want to look at to favor my argument since there are so many factors, but the impression I got is that Mashme was nothing special but solid enough to warrant his spot while they had other problems. And just from the impression I got from watching them play, he seemed to carry his weight much more than Wiz.
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On April 14 2014 07:14 Amethyst21 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 07:07 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 07:03 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 06:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:49 Chicane wrote:
Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason? Because MashMe was absolutely awful and irrelevant in Summer Split, averaging something like 2,8 kills per game. Yellowpete and Cop are just laughing somewhere I don't remember him being that bad, even though he was in the bottom half. I don't recall him suiciding or getting caught nearly as much as Zuna, and he actually seemed to be pretty solid and carry his team relatively often. Yeah his twitch was where he shined most and he was pretty average/below average (relative to other LCS players) otherwise, but I am just not impressed by Wiz at all who really adds nothing to the team other than having a handful of impressive games. He also gets caught plenty and just makes some mechanically poor plays. In any case I always felt Nintendude was the biggest problem back then for Coast (and still is) so I feel like he should have been the place to start in terms of replacing teammates. I could definitely see Mashme being replaced if they found someone better to replace him with right away, but benching him and then having tryouts afterwards seemed questionable to me, given that IMO they had bigger problems. Edit: Huh that was strange, I quoted that one, backed out and then quoted another one... responded to it, and then it replied to this one.... I meant to reply to wei2coolman http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/season-3/split2/stats77 kills is just awful, even maplestreet playing for ridiculously bad Velocity got more, considering that they lost 23 games from 28. Coast were absolutely impotent if you remember, right now they're team of 2 threats but last summer Zion was playing alone with Shiphtur slumping whole season. Who knows, probably Wiz will come big next season like Shiphtur, we can't say right now. As long as we are selectively picking stats here Mashme's KDA 3.51 > Doublelift's 3.49 KDA Clearly Mashme should be joining CLG anyday now.
It's not selective picking, you can just rewatch Coast games from last split.
Whole Coast squad got 323 kills last split, it's less than 12 kills per game.
You clearly want an improvement if you want to be relevant, getting rid of Zion/Shiphtur could be fatal for team, so getting rid of MashMe wasn't worst decision it seems.
This season, Coast got 357 kills, seems better.
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KDA is already a finicky stat that's really dependent on all 5 people on the team, but with Coast it's even harder to read, since they play around Ship/Zion so much. Cst adcs are usually relegated to farming much of the game. When Ship/Zion don't do well (most of the summer split last year) someone like mash ends up farming for awhile only to get shit on in every team fight because if mid/top don't do well Coast is usually sunk.
I still think Wiz is an upgrade from Mashme, just because Mashme's champion pool feels pretty abysmal.
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On April 14 2014 07:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 07:14 Amethyst21 wrote:On April 14 2014 07:07 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 07:03 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 06:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:49 Chicane wrote:
Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason? Because MashMe was absolutely awful and irrelevant in Summer Split, averaging something like 2,8 kills per game. Yellowpete and Cop are just laughing somewhere I don't remember him being that bad, even though he was in the bottom half. I don't recall him suiciding or getting caught nearly as much as Zuna, and he actually seemed to be pretty solid and carry his team relatively often. Yeah his twitch was where he shined most and he was pretty average/below average (relative to other LCS players) otherwise, but I am just not impressed by Wiz at all who really adds nothing to the team other than having a handful of impressive games. He also gets caught plenty and just makes some mechanically poor plays. In any case I always felt Nintendude was the biggest problem back then for Coast (and still is) so I feel like he should have been the place to start in terms of replacing teammates. I could definitely see Mashme being replaced if they found someone better to replace him with right away, but benching him and then having tryouts afterwards seemed questionable to me, given that IMO they had bigger problems. Edit: Huh that was strange, I quoted that one, backed out and then quoted another one... responded to it, and then it replied to this one.... I meant to reply to wei2coolman http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/season-3/split2/stats77 kills is just awful, even maplestreet playing for ridiculously bad Velocity got more, considering that they lost 23 games from 28. Coast were absolutely impotent if you remember, right now they're team of 2 threats but last summer Zion was playing alone with Shiphtur slumping whole season. Who knows, probably Wiz will come big next season like Shiphtur, we can't say right now. As long as we are selectively picking stats here Mashme's KDA 3.51 > Doublelift's 3.49 KDA Clearly Mashme should be joining CLG anyday now. It's not selective picking, you can just rewatch Coast games from last split. Whole Coast squad got 323 kills last split, it's less than 12 kills per game. You clearly want an improvement if you want to be relevant, getting rid of Zion/Shiphtur could be fatal for team, so getting rid of MashMe wasn't worst decision it seems. This season, Coast got 357 kills, seems better.
The way you are using those stats is really bothering me.
Did Coast also get more deaths, so they have more kills because there has been more fighting?
Did they get more kills because Shiphtur and Zion picked things up?
Have they improved as a team (get placed higher in the standings.. which they have if I am not mistaken) meaning they are more likely to get more kills across the board if everyone improved?
There are just so many things that could impact those stats that I don't even...
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On April 14 2014 07:21 Swords wrote:
KDA is already a finicky stat that's really dependent on all 5 people on the team, but with Coast it's even harder to read, since they play around Ship/Zion so much. Cst adcs are usually relegated to farming much of the game. When Ship/Zion don't do well (most of the summer split last year) someone like mash ends up farming for awhile only to get shit on in every team fight because if mid/top don't do well Coast is usually sunk.
I still think Wiz is an upgrade from Mashme, just because Mashme's champion pool feels pretty abysmal.
I totally agree. We should only base "carry-ness" on kill participation, number of death per minute, and damage done to champions compared to other team members, per minute.
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On April 14 2014 07:25 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 07:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 07:14 Amethyst21 wrote:On April 14 2014 07:07 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 07:03 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 06:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:49 Chicane wrote:
Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason? Because MashMe was absolutely awful and irrelevant in Summer Split, averaging something like 2,8 kills per game. Yellowpete and Cop are just laughing somewhere I don't remember him being that bad, even though he was in the bottom half. I don't recall him suiciding or getting caught nearly as much as Zuna, and he actually seemed to be pretty solid and carry his team relatively often. Yeah his twitch was where he shined most and he was pretty average/below average (relative to other LCS players) otherwise, but I am just not impressed by Wiz at all who really adds nothing to the team other than having a handful of impressive games. He also gets caught plenty and just makes some mechanically poor plays. In any case I always felt Nintendude was the biggest problem back then for Coast (and still is) so I feel like he should have been the place to start in terms of replacing teammates. I could definitely see Mashme being replaced if they found someone better to replace him with right away, but benching him and then having tryouts afterwards seemed questionable to me, given that IMO they had bigger problems. Edit: Huh that was strange, I quoted that one, backed out and then quoted another one... responded to it, and then it replied to this one.... I meant to reply to wei2coolman http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/season-3/split2/stats77 kills is just awful, even maplestreet playing for ridiculously bad Velocity got more, considering that they lost 23 games from 28. Coast were absolutely impotent if you remember, right now they're team of 2 threats but last summer Zion was playing alone with Shiphtur slumping whole season. Who knows, probably Wiz will come big next season like Shiphtur, we can't say right now. As long as we are selectively picking stats here Mashme's KDA 3.51 > Doublelift's 3.49 KDA Clearly Mashme should be joining CLG anyday now. It's not selective picking, you can just rewatch Coast games from last split. Whole Coast squad got 323 kills last split, it's less than 12 kills per game. You clearly want an improvement if you want to be relevant, getting rid of Zion/Shiphtur could be fatal for team, so getting rid of MashMe wasn't worst decision it seems. This season, Coast got 357 kills, seems better. The way you are using those stats is really bothering me. Did Coast also get more deaths, so they have more kills because there has been more fighting? Did they get more kills because Shiphtur and Zion picked things up? Have they improved as a team (get placed higher in the standings.. which they have if I am not mistaken) meaning they are more likely to get more kills across the board if everyone improved? There are just so many things that could impact those stats that I don't even...
Go and use them as well, it's not very hard to open page and check.
If you watched last split, it would be easy for you to say that MashMe was just irrelevant, especially after Spring Split, where Zion was winning only on Riven/Jayce, Jintae was playing Orianna and whole carrying stuff was on MashMe/Daydreamin shoulders.
But it seems he might have a shot to get a second try this way.
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Lets be honest, if Coast had Chaox instead of Wiz they would be top 3 LCS Kappa
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On April 14 2014 07:25 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 07:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 07:14 Amethyst21 wrote:On April 14 2014 07:07 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 07:03 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 06:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:49 Chicane wrote:
Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason? Because MashMe was absolutely awful and irrelevant in Summer Split, averaging something like 2,8 kills per game. Yellowpete and Cop are just laughing somewhere I don't remember him being that bad, even though he was in the bottom half. I don't recall him suiciding or getting caught nearly as much as Zuna, and he actually seemed to be pretty solid and carry his team relatively often. Yeah his twitch was where he shined most and he was pretty average/below average (relative to other LCS players) otherwise, but I am just not impressed by Wiz at all who really adds nothing to the team other than having a handful of impressive games. He also gets caught plenty and just makes some mechanically poor plays. In any case I always felt Nintendude was the biggest problem back then for Coast (and still is) so I feel like he should have been the place to start in terms of replacing teammates. I could definitely see Mashme being replaced if they found someone better to replace him with right away, but benching him and then having tryouts afterwards seemed questionable to me, given that IMO they had bigger problems. Edit: Huh that was strange, I quoted that one, backed out and then quoted another one... responded to it, and then it replied to this one.... I meant to reply to wei2coolman http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/season-3/split2/stats77 kills is just awful, even maplestreet playing for ridiculously bad Velocity got more, considering that they lost 23 games from 28. Coast were absolutely impotent if you remember, right now they're team of 2 threats but last summer Zion was playing alone with Shiphtur slumping whole season. Who knows, probably Wiz will come big next season like Shiphtur, we can't say right now. As long as we are selectively picking stats here Mashme's KDA 3.51 > Doublelift's 3.49 KDA Clearly Mashme should be joining CLG anyday now. It's not selective picking, you can just rewatch Coast games from last split. Whole Coast squad got 323 kills last split, it's less than 12 kills per game. You clearly want an improvement if you want to be relevant, getting rid of Zion/Shiphtur could be fatal for team, so getting rid of MashMe wasn't worst decision it seems. This season, Coast got 357 kills, seems better. The way you are using those stats is really bothering me. Did Coast also get more deaths, so they have more kills because there has been more fighting? Did they get more kills because Shiphtur and Zion picked things up? Have they improved as a team (get placed higher in the standings.. which they have if I am not mistaken) meaning they are more likely to get more kills across the board if everyone improved? There are just so many things that could impact those stats that I don't even...
Agreed, total kills per team is even more useless than KDA because it doesn't factor in game time or anything like that. This is an extreme example, but C9 could win every game in 25 minutes and get 10 kills per game because the game isn't that long and they're concerned about objectives and not kills. Meanwhile Dig could play almost every game to 40 minutes and get 15 kills per game, but lose every time because they threw at baron.
I think anyone who's watched Cst this season vs. last summer can tell you the biggest difference is Shiphtur finally figured out how to bring his soloqueue levels of godliness to LCS team play. Not having MashMe limit bot in champ select and Wiz getting caught out less is great, but Wiz isn't making the big difference, Shiphtur is.
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Yeah I mean when it boils down to it, we're spending all this virtual ink (all those keystrokes!) arguing about maybe the 8th best AD Carry in the LCS.
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On April 14 2014 07:30 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 07:25 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 07:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 07:14 Amethyst21 wrote:On April 14 2014 07:07 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 07:03 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 06:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:49 Chicane wrote:
Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason? Because MashMe was absolutely awful and irrelevant in Summer Split, averaging something like 2,8 kills per game. Yellowpete and Cop are just laughing somewhere I don't remember him being that bad, even though he was in the bottom half. I don't recall him suiciding or getting caught nearly as much as Zuna, and he actually seemed to be pretty solid and carry his team relatively often. Yeah his twitch was where he shined most and he was pretty average/below average (relative to other LCS players) otherwise, but I am just not impressed by Wiz at all who really adds nothing to the team other than having a handful of impressive games. He also gets caught plenty and just makes some mechanically poor plays. In any case I always felt Nintendude was the biggest problem back then for Coast (and still is) so I feel like he should have been the place to start in terms of replacing teammates. I could definitely see Mashme being replaced if they found someone better to replace him with right away, but benching him and then having tryouts afterwards seemed questionable to me, given that IMO they had bigger problems. Edit: Huh that was strange, I quoted that one, backed out and then quoted another one... responded to it, and then it replied to this one.... I meant to reply to wei2coolman http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/season-3/split2/stats77 kills is just awful, even maplestreet playing for ridiculously bad Velocity got more, considering that they lost 23 games from 28. Coast were absolutely impotent if you remember, right now they're team of 2 threats but last summer Zion was playing alone with Shiphtur slumping whole season. Who knows, probably Wiz will come big next season like Shiphtur, we can't say right now. As long as we are selectively picking stats here Mashme's KDA 3.51 > Doublelift's 3.49 KDA Clearly Mashme should be joining CLG anyday now. It's not selective picking, you can just rewatch Coast games from last split. Whole Coast squad got 323 kills last split, it's less than 12 kills per game. You clearly want an improvement if you want to be relevant, getting rid of Zion/Shiphtur could be fatal for team, so getting rid of MashMe wasn't worst decision it seems. This season, Coast got 357 kills, seems better. The way you are using those stats is really bothering me. Did Coast also get more deaths, so they have more kills because there has been more fighting? Did they get more kills because Shiphtur and Zion picked things up? Have they improved as a team (get placed higher in the standings.. which they have if I am not mistaken) meaning they are more likely to get more kills across the board if everyone improved? There are just so many things that could impact those stats that I don't even... Agreed, total kills per team is even more useless than KDA because it doesn't factor in game time or anything like that. This is an extreme example, but C9 could win every game in 25 minutes and get 10 kills per game because the game isn't that long and they're concerned about objectives and not kills. Meanwhile Dig could play almost every game to 40 minutes and get 15 kills per game, but lose every time because they threw at baron. I think anyone who's watched Cst this season vs. last summer can tell you the biggest difference is Shiphtur finally figured out how to bring his soloqueue levels of godliness to LCS team play. Not having MashMe limit bot in champ select and Wiz getting caught out less is great, but Wiz isn't making the big difference, Shiphtur is.
To be honest, Wiz doesn't have big champion pool either, MashMe at least was playing Ezreal/Twitch/Vayne + standard carries and Wiz was playing Lucian/Caitlyn/Varus/Jinx whole season with Lucian/Caitlyn getting 19/28 outs.
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On April 14 2014 07:32 Amethyst21 wrote:
Yeah I mean when it boils down to it, we're spending all this virtual ink (all those keystrokes!) arguing about maybe the 8th best AD Carry in the LCS.
mash, and wiz, easily better than zuna, and yolopete.
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On April 14 2014 07:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 07:30 Swords wrote:On April 14 2014 07:25 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 07:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 07:14 Amethyst21 wrote:On April 14 2014 07:07 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 07:03 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 06:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:49 Chicane wrote:
Why did Coast get rid of Mash? I always thought he was a decent player, and Coast didn't even know who they would replace him with, so I assume there was some other reason? Because MashMe was absolutely awful and irrelevant in Summer Split, averaging something like 2,8 kills per game. Yellowpete and Cop are just laughing somewhere I don't remember him being that bad, even though he was in the bottom half. I don't recall him suiciding or getting caught nearly as much as Zuna, and he actually seemed to be pretty solid and carry his team relatively often. Yeah his twitch was where he shined most and he was pretty average/below average (relative to other LCS players) otherwise, but I am just not impressed by Wiz at all who really adds nothing to the team other than having a handful of impressive games. He also gets caught plenty and just makes some mechanically poor plays. In any case I always felt Nintendude was the biggest problem back then for Coast (and still is) so I feel like he should have been the place to start in terms of replacing teammates. I could definitely see Mashme being replaced if they found someone better to replace him with right away, but benching him and then having tryouts afterwards seemed questionable to me, given that IMO they had bigger problems. Edit: Huh that was strange, I quoted that one, backed out and then quoted another one... responded to it, and then it replied to this one.... I meant to reply to wei2coolman http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/season-3/split2/stats77 kills is just awful, even maplestreet playing for ridiculously bad Velocity got more, considering that they lost 23 games from 28. Coast were absolutely impotent if you remember, right now they're team of 2 threats but last summer Zion was playing alone with Shiphtur slumping whole season. Who knows, probably Wiz will come big next season like Shiphtur, we can't say right now. As long as we are selectively picking stats here Mashme's KDA 3.51 > Doublelift's 3.49 KDA Clearly Mashme should be joining CLG anyday now. It's not selective picking, you can just rewatch Coast games from last split. Whole Coast squad got 323 kills last split, it's less than 12 kills per game. You clearly want an improvement if you want to be relevant, getting rid of Zion/Shiphtur could be fatal for team, so getting rid of MashMe wasn't worst decision it seems. This season, Coast got 357 kills, seems better. The way you are using those stats is really bothering me. Did Coast also get more deaths, so they have more kills because there has been more fighting? Did they get more kills because Shiphtur and Zion picked things up? Have they improved as a team (get placed higher in the standings.. which they have if I am not mistaken) meaning they are more likely to get more kills across the board if everyone improved? There are just so many things that could impact those stats that I don't even... Agreed, total kills per team is even more useless than KDA because it doesn't factor in game time or anything like that. This is an extreme example, but C9 could win every game in 25 minutes and get 10 kills per game because the game isn't that long and they're concerned about objectives and not kills. Meanwhile Dig could play almost every game to 40 minutes and get 15 kills per game, but lose every time because they threw at baron. I think anyone who's watched Cst this season vs. last summer can tell you the biggest difference is Shiphtur finally figured out how to bring his soloqueue levels of godliness to LCS team play. Not having MashMe limit bot in champ select and Wiz getting caught out less is great, but Wiz isn't making the big difference, Shiphtur is. To be honest, Wiz doesn't have big champion pool either, MashMe at least was playing Ezreal/Twitch/Vayne + standard carries and Wiz was playing Lucian/Caitlyn/Varus/Jinx whole season with Lucian/Caitlyn getting 19/28 outs.
Excluding something like tri-force buffs suddenly requiring everyone to play corki, it's not like adc's need *that* large a champion pool. Unless you want a utility adc, lucian/cait/jinx is pretty much all you need.
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On April 14 2014 07:37 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 07:32 Amethyst21 wrote:
Yeah I mean when it boils down to it, we're spending all this virtual ink (all those keystrokes!) arguing about maybe the 8th best AD Carry in the LCS. mash, and wiz, easily better than zuna, and yolopete.
Pshhh, can mash and wiz play jungle and support?
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I do not like this caster combo lol
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brokenshard gets caught all day l0l
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well that was game losing
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brokenshard is just . . .
Dare I say almost as bad if not worse then zuna when he was jungling?
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On April 14 2014 07:44 Disengaged wrote:
brokenshard is just . . .
Dare I say almost as bad if not worse then zuna when he was jungling?
worse than nintendudex at this point. rofl.
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AHAHA MASHME GETS SOLOD BY BARON
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Anyone notice that RobertXLee had amazing positioning that fight? He was in the bush so he shooting headshots constantly and soraka starfall OP
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Both these teams trying to prove they belong in the NA LCS with these Baron throws.
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First competitive syndra i've seen in ages, does he often play her?
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/Cry. its already 1 AM here and I really wanted to watch LMQ vs C9T 
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On April 14 2014 08:08 killerdog wrote:
First competitive syndra i've seen in ages, does he often play her?
Have you not been watching this split? She has been played several times this split, and was even played just last week by Bjergsen.
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This series is so godawful.
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On April 14 2014 08:09 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 08:08 killerdog wrote:
First competitive syndra i've seen in ages, does he often play her? Have you not been watching this split? She has been played several times this split, and was even played just last week by Bjergsen.
Haven't been able to watch every game for the last few weeks, so I've just been only watching the reccomended games/star matches.
Guess I must have missed it
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On April 14 2014 08:16 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 08:09 Chicane wrote:On April 14 2014 08:08 killerdog wrote:
First competitive syndra i've seen in ages, does he often play her? Have you not been watching this split? She has been played several times this split, and was even played just last week by Bjergsen. Haven't been able to watch every game for the last few weeks, so I've just been only watching the reccomended games/star matches. Guess I must have missed it
Considering how many games got a big no vote that doesnt seem suprising ^^
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On April 14 2014 08:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
This series is so godawful.
The only solace is that whoever "wins" will be 1st picked by the 6th place team and most probably not get into LCS.
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The throws are real HAHAHHAH
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On April 14 2014 08:30 MooMooMugi wrote:
The throws are real HAHAHHAH
trying to find new ways to throw,
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LOL WTF WAS THAT?
That teamfight was...
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That was the worst teamfight I've may have seen in a streamed League match, the number of derps and fail flashes were unreal.
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Pity the Baron decided this game. CA was making a good comeback untill that.
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Ahh, I missed my NA LCS fix...
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dude this is such a nailbiter!
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tense moment for all players
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Funny thing is that LMQ may just 3-0 after this throwfest so at least this series has been entertaining lol
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Mashme is going to show himself bot and give up free baron, isn't he?
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I so want CA to win this for how well they have been forcing themselves back into the game.
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Late game syndra is really odd. That lack of mobility seems to be a huge pain
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This series is something alright
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On April 14 2014 08:56 Gorsameth wrote:
I so want CA to win this for how well they have been forcing themselves back into the game.
Pat doesnt though.
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Fucking retarded build by that jungler, build banshee and syndra isnt even a problem
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I can't imagine what Pat must be feeling here. What a mistake
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So, Pat lost his team the game right there
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oh god lee must feel bad now
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Jesus Christ it finally ended. Holy shit.
I can't wait till like EG or someone eliminates these shitlords christ that was awful.
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Ugh, I don't even know how you face your teammates after that game if you are Pat.
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On April 14 2014 08:59 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Jesus Christ it finally ended. Holy shit.
I can't wait till like EG or someone eliminates these shitlords christ that was awful.
They will VERY likely play 6th place team in LCS, so not EG.
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i wouldn't open the door the next days pat
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Na amateur scene literally only LMQ, the rest are shitters throwing each game
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On April 14 2014 08:59 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Jesus Christ it finally ended. Holy shit.
I can't wait till like EG or someone eliminates these shitlords christ that was awful.
I'd guess EG will get C9T, it's gonna be the loser of the 6th place match so Curse/Dig/Coast/CLG all of who will (or should) embarass CLB
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Btw is Pat by chance the same guy as the known WoW player Pat?
edit: Nvm that was way too long ago, he would probably be too old.
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somehow its supected that this happens to a lee sin
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Curse getting relegated by Curse Academy would amazing.
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On April 14 2014 09:02 caelym wrote:
Curse getting relegated by Curse Academy would amazing.
Uh yeah I'd take fucking XDG over these shitlords lol.
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I was playing a game - what did Pat do exactly?
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On April 14 2014 09:02 caelym wrote:
Curse getting relegated by Curse Academy would amazing.
As much as people don't like curse roster, they are still stronger than the CA team. At least if it a bo5 like this, you can be sure the main curse team wins.
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On April 14 2014 09:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 09:02 caelym wrote:
Curse getting relegated by Curse Academy would amazing. Uh yeah I'd take fucking XDG over these shitlords lol.
But i'd still take either of the AD's over zuna
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On April 14 2014 09:04 Anggroth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 09:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On April 14 2014 09:02 caelym wrote:
Curse getting relegated by Curse Academy would amazing. Uh yeah I'd take fucking XDG over these shitlords lol. But i'd still take either of the AD's over zuna
No way lol. I would 100% take Zuna over these shitlords.
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On April 14 2014 09:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 09:04 Anggroth wrote:On April 14 2014 09:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On April 14 2014 09:02 caelym wrote:
Curse getting relegated by Curse Academy would amazing. Uh yeah I'd take fucking XDG over these shitlords lol. But i'd still take either of the AD's over zuna No way lol. I would 100% take Zuna over these shitlords.
Stop calling Mash a shitlord or I'll bash yer fooking hed in m8 i swear on me mum
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Oh my god thank god GOOD casters!
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that bischu guy looks a bit weird to me
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On April 14 2014 09:07 Chrispy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 09:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On April 14 2014 09:04 Anggroth wrote:On April 14 2014 09:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On April 14 2014 09:02 caelym wrote:
Curse getting relegated by Curse Academy would amazing. Uh yeah I'd take fucking XDG over these shitlords lol. But i'd still take either of the AD's over zuna No way lol. I would 100% take Zuna over these shitlords. Stop calling Mash a shitlord or I'll bash yer fooking hed in m8 i swear on me mum
Uh yeah I saw this guy get shit on by Robertxlee, he's a shitlord.
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On April 14 2014 09:04 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 09:02 caelym wrote:
Curse getting relegated by Curse Academy would amazing. As much as people don't like curse roster, they are still stronger than the CA team. At least if it a bo5 like this, you can be sure the main curse team wins.
yea but one can dream.
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ackerman looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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That ackerman troll was hilarious, outplayed indeed.
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that was really well played hahaha
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On April 14 2014 09:38 krndandaman wrote:
is mid soraka new fotm now?
yes
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I don't get Vasili's Ez build. It seems so low damage and he's against all them Heals.
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xwx's farm always ridiculous. that man knows how to kill minions
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On April 14 2014 09:43 MoonBear wrote:
I don't get Vasili's Ez build. It seems so low damage and he's against all them Heals.
Pretty sure this is the standard Korean Ezreal build these days.
I think Ezreal is bottom tier ADC these days. I can't understand why any team would pick him.
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On April 14 2014 09:45 Chrispy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 09:43 MoonBear wrote:
I don't get Vasili's Ez build. It seems so low damage and he's against all them Heals. Pretty sure this is the standard Korean Ezreal build these days. I think Ezreal is bottom tier ADC these days. I can't understand why any team would pick him.
C9 banned three ADCs and firstpicked Lucian, that's why.
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On April 14 2014 09:45 Chrispy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 09:43 MoonBear wrote:
I don't get Vasili's Ez build. It seems so low damage and he's against all them Heals. Pretty sure this is the standard Korean Ezreal build these days. I think Ezreal is bottom tier ADC these days. I can't understand why any team would pick him.
because how can you make excellent plays like shifting into binds if you don't pick ez?!?!?!
duh
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On April 14 2014 09:46 Darion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 09:45 Chrispy wrote:On April 14 2014 09:43 MoonBear wrote:
I don't get Vasili's Ez build. It seems so low damage and he's against all them Heals. Pretty sure this is the standard Korean Ezreal build these days. I think Ezreal is bottom tier ADC these days. I can't understand why any team would pick him. C9 banned three ADCs and firstpicked Lucian, that's why.
Y I was surprised LMQ didnt first pick there ADC when they saw 3 adc getting banned.
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What in the world is Vasilli doing?
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theres no way that vasilii was NOT trolling there. you just don't go into unwarded territory like that...
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XWX is playing his heart out, but Vasili just feeding too hard.
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lmfaooooo, what is vasilli doing?
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On April 14 2014 09:48 Apex wrote:
What in the world is Vasilli doing?
Part of the plan to give C9T false hope before they crush them
Hue hue hue
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whats all the hype for this LMQ team? first time ive watched them play and they just get caught a lot and seem to have zero teamwork. lel
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Is Vasili trolling or something? Dude gets caught out more times than I do....
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LOL VASILLI
this is beyond zuna level
this is like
i dont even know
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On April 14 2014 09:46 Darion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 09:45 Chrispy wrote:On April 14 2014 09:43 MoonBear wrote:
I don't get Vasili's Ez build. It seems so low damage and he's against all them Heals. Pretty sure this is the standard Korean Ezreal build these days. I think Ezreal is bottom tier ADC these days. I can't understand why any team would pick him. C9 banned three ADCs and firstpicked Lucian, that's why.
Oh... okay. Fair enough.
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It looks like vasili is throwing on purpose. But the rest of the team is trying hard. So weird.
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they cant even finish covering a replay of his last fuck up, before they're forced to switch back to real time to show his next one
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lol can't believe vasili got banned out
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haha, the casters knows. You don't arcane swift in unless you build the Randunaan's like Woong
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as kobe whispers "vasili please"
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On April 14 2014 09:50 Chrispy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 09:46 Darion wrote:On April 14 2014 09:45 Chrispy wrote:On April 14 2014 09:43 MoonBear wrote:
I don't get Vasili's Ez build. It seems so low damage and he's against all them Heals. Pretty sure this is the standard Korean Ezreal build these days. I think Ezreal is bottom tier ADC these days. I can't understand why any team would pick him. C9 banned three ADCs and firstpicked Lucian, that's why. Oh... okay. Fair enough.
It makes you wonder why LMQ isn't running Nidalee though.
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people know from solo q that vasili has a horrible temper and tilts easily so pretty solid gameplan by c9t to just ban him and target him completely to fuck with him
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Now taking bets for how Riot will nerf soraka in the next patch. Surely they can't be happy Lulu was intantly replaced by another support as fotm mid
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On April 14 2014 09:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
people know from solo q that vasili has a horrible temper and tilts easily so pretty solid gameplan by c9t to just ban him and target him completely to fuck with him
really? I've never seen vasilli rage before. I only see xwx rage
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Yeah OK. LMQ is not taking this seriously.
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On April 14 2014 09:49 Redox wrote:
XWX is playing his heart out, but Vasili just feeding too hard.
Uh, yeah, not sure if playing his heart out or just farming everything LOMO
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On April 14 2014 09:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
people know from solo q that vasili has a horrible temper and tilts easily so pretty solid gameplan by c9t to just ban him and target him completely to fuck with him
Maybe the lost duels vs Altec put him on tilt. But I have never seen a tilt of this magnitude in pro play.
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taking chinese aggression to a whole new level with those forward arcane shifts
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i think they are intentionally doing this to give less video for scouting when the time comes for the LCS teams to play LMQ...muddle the waters somewhat
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VASILI PLEASE. USE WOONG"S BUILD IF YOU"RE GOING to ARCANE SWIFT IN LOL.
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Please, I want Vasili's Jinx so I can watch the offensive Flash/Chompers combo
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On April 14 2014 09:55 eGoRama wrote:
Please, I want Vasili's Jinx so I can watch the offensive Flash/Chompers combo
I want to see Vasilli's best impression of the "Padrinosky big plays Graves"
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Lomo Vasili played like shit that game
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It seems like Vasilii got way out of tilt after he kept narrowing losing duels because of Bischu's ultis.
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Not sure if tilt or trolling -__-
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On April 14 2014 09:55 meowmasta85 wrote:
i think they are intentionally doing this to give less video for scouting when the time comes for the LCS teams to play LMQ...muddle the waters somewhat
Probably. Not entirely out of the question lol
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On April 14 2014 09:57 Apex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 09:55 eGoRama wrote:
Please, I want Vasili's Jinx so I can watch the offensive Flash/Chompers combo I want to see Vasilli's best impression of the "Padrinosky big plays Graves"
Vasili just put on an Ez clinic that makes Padrinosky look like Liftlift.
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On April 14 2014 09:55 meowmasta85 wrote:
i think they are intentionally doing this to give less video for scouting when the time comes for the LCS teams to play LMQ...muddle the waters somewhat
What do you give away by not suiciding?
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On April 14 2014 09:57 Apex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 09:55 eGoRama wrote:
Please, I want Vasili's Jinx so I can watch the offensive Flash/Chompers combo I want to see Vasilli's best impression of the "Padrinosky big plays Graves"
Rofl
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On April 14 2014 10:01 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 09:55 meowmasta85 wrote:
i think they are intentionally doing this to give less video for scouting when the time comes for the LCS teams to play LMQ...muddle the waters somewhat What do you give away by not suiciding?
XDG will be all like "We know what to pick/ban!" and LMQ will be all like "Ha ha! Baited and outsmarted!" and then steamroll them.
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Hahahah Graves :D
Padrinosky big plays Graves
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The Padrinosky dream is alive, men.
Vasilli on Graves.
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C9T made a big mistake going for this team comp matchup. LMQ has way too much early game snowball.
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Well, LMQ has to dominate the early game with this team comp or else they are really boned against C9T. Soraka with the MR debuffs and Ryze would destroy their team.
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On April 14 2014 10:15 Kontossis wrote:
Well, LMQ has to dominate the early game with this team comp or else they are really boned against C9T. Soraka with the MR debuffs and Ryze would destroy their team.
Yesterday they seemed boned against Curse Academy and still won. Just need to make sure Vasili doesn't feed.
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Hm. That Ignite by Renek just to farm.
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lol the repel xD
Elise: see ya, renekton
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Very disappointed in LMQ so far. I can't see them beating any LCS team playing like this.
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Did Altec have tp in first game as well btw?
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On April 14 2014 10:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Did Altec have tp in first game as well btw?
Nope had Heal
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poor morgana, got converged on by all 5
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On April 14 2014 10:28 MoonBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 10:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Did Altec have tp in first game as well btw?
Nope had Heal
Hadn't seen tp adcs since CLG's cheeky S2 Worlds.
YAZUKI THE GOD.
LoMoQ seem beatable tonight.
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Vasili putting on the carry pants
Yazuki runs away lol
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XWX with a godly 2 man ulti right there. ROFL.
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God ackerman playing so fucking trash.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Sick game.
Soloqueue sucks.
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This game is very entertaining.
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Why isn't Kez building the new feral item? Isn't it perfect for xin zhao?
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This was not the series I thought it was going to be. Both teams fucking suck.
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bleh, I wanted to see graves dash into the enemy team.
+ loool, both teams keep baiting their teams T_T
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On April 14 2014 10:34 Headshot wrote:
This was not the series I thought it was going to be. Both teams fucking suck.
First time watching Challenger scenes?
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lmao these tps. LMQ no idea how to deal with the tps
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Teleport paying off... dayum. $$$$
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No, but for some reason I was buying into the LMQ hype train.
And in before the Soraka nerf.
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the tele on adc doing work (maybe?)
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I was so confused when the Lucian appeared after the teleport. Did not notice that one lol.
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On April 14 2014 10:37 Headshot wrote:
No, but for some reason I was buying into the LMQ hype train.
That hype train was destroyed long ago.
Whats left of the train is just bits and pieces.
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On April 14 2014 10:37 Headshot wrote:
No, but for some reason I was buying into the LMQ hype train.
Have you watched their other games?
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mid game graves so stronk
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Yeah, I watched their last series to qualify for the finals.
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Altec lost them the fight
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altec is going full retard this game
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Dat ignite on KORKez just won LMQ the game.
Time to sleep, hope my guys will win.
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Altec... going against 2v1 against a Graves who's more farmed and the massive Ori?
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CHOO CHOO LMQ TRAIN STILL GOT FUEL
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Altec going full Vasili on that fight.
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On April 14 2014 10:39 Headshot wrote:
Yeah, I watched their last series to qualify for the finals.
If you watch any of their other games it's mostly them winning really hard and then trolling or just straight up stomps. Sure, they're not as unbeatable as people thought they were, but when they play properly, they're probably top 4 in NA
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Altec should just yolo tp top.
Would've been sick. TP top while his team stops the back.
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C9T just imploded somewhere in the mid game for game 2. Playing so weirdly.
I said it yesterday, and I'll say it again. Watching a team lose to their own inconsistencies is really frustrating to watch.
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On April 14 2014 10:45 ketchup wrote:
C9T just imploded somewhere in the mid game for game 2. Playing so weirdly.
Mostly vasili not going full retard like last game
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On April 14 2014 10:46 Neverhood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 10:45 ketchup wrote:
C9T just imploded somewhere in the mid game for game 2. Playing so weirdly. Mostly vasili not going full retard like last game
The Ryze as well. Flame, please teach him how to play this champ
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Uh. You don't even see that kinda thing in solo queue.
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On April 14 2014 10:46 Neverhood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 10:45 ketchup wrote:
C9T just imploded somewhere in the mid game for game 2. Playing so weirdly. Mostly vasili not going full retard like last game
C9T went from being only 2-3k behind to losing baron + losing team fights + bad team communication.. It's more than just vasili. It's c9t doing bad things, and not playing as a team
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Altec is really going full retard like Vasilii from the previous game. Teleport on a ADC is much more questionable when you can't flank the opposing team because you'll get blown up in 2 seconds and you'll lose lane ezpz.
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TBH, neither team look like they're trying hard compared to yesterday. What's diff between 1st & 2nd?
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On April 14 2014 10:49 Kontossis wrote:
Altec is really going full retard like Vasilii from the previous game. Teleport on a ADC is much more questionable when you can't flank the opposing team because you'll get blown up in 2 seconds and you'll lose lane ezpz.
The other thing is that with C9T's team they want to stay fair close together to stack the Heals, Karma Shields and all that good stuff. It's like being a hedgehog and showing no easy way for LMQ to attack into that clump. The problem is they're all so scared of Ori Ult (and rightfully so) and also some want to dive others want to hang back. So they get separated and sniped off. It doesn't help that with TP on Top+AD Carry they need to stay close and rely on the secondary Heal effect from the others.
You'll remember that fight near LMQ Wraiths around... 15 min (?) when Altec went deep to try and duel Vasili he suddenly found himself face to face with Ori too and no Heal to help him. And died for it.
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Just the price money, though I don't know how much goes to 1st, 2nd, etc
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On April 14 2014 10:54 KissBlade wrote:
TBH, neither team look like they're trying hard compared to yesterday. What's diff between 1st & 2nd?
Bragging rights I suppose. Both teams should be locked into Promotions. The relegated teams choose who they play and even if C9T beats LMQ I don't think anyone still actually wants to play LMQ. So it's still likely going to be XDG v LMQ anyway.
EDIT: Oh yah $6k difference in prize money for 1st and 2nd. So a cool $1200 per player if they get 1st.
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On April 14 2014 10:57 MoonBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 10:54 KissBlade wrote:
TBH, neither team look like they're trying hard compared to yesterday. What's diff between 1st & 2nd? Bragging rights I suppose. Both teams should be locked into Promotions. The relegated teams choose who they play and even if C9T beats LMQ I don't think anyone still actually wants to play LMQ. So it's still likely going to be XDG v LMQ anyway. EDIT: Oh yah $6k difference in prize money for 1st and 2nd. So a cool $1200 per player if they get 1st.
Kinda strange these guys don't care about $1200 it's good money for where they're at. It's not like they makin' TSM money.
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On April 14 2014 10:59 Slow Motion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 10:57 MoonBear wrote:On April 14 2014 10:54 KissBlade wrote:
TBH, neither team look like they're trying hard compared to yesterday. What's diff between 1st & 2nd? Bragging rights I suppose. Both teams should be locked into Promotions. The relegated teams choose who they play and even if C9T beats LMQ I don't think anyone still actually wants to play LMQ. So it's still likely going to be XDG v LMQ anyway. EDIT: Oh yah $6k difference in prize money for 1st and 2nd. So a cool $1200 per player if they get 1st. Kinda strange these guys don't care about $1200 it's good money for where they're at. It's not like they makin' TSM money.
Yeah I think it's too early to say these guys don't care but man it sure looks that way. TP Lucian, suicide Ezrael, weird rotations and delayed reaction. These guys are just not looking as crisp as yesterday.
??? The heck Soraka ban??? Does XWX even play Soraka?
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I wonder if C9T knows something we don't from scrims and they're trying to next level LMQ. Also, if they can practise pocket super strats and refine them in time for Promotions the LCS contract is worth WAY more than $1.2k.
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I already hate this draft for C9T. Giving nid away . . . there's no way xwx's soraka is more threatening.
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I can foresee a lot of top lane camping just like in the previous game. Renekton + Lee Sin will eat Jax up early game.
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LMQ's willingness to dive as 5 so early is so fun to watch.
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C9T early game shenanigans caught LMQ a little off guard, but then they tried to press an advantage that was much smaller than they thought and paid for it. A few good spears from LMQ and a some good fundamentals in fights and the game begins to snowball in their favor.
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I gotta say Noname has steadily been stepping up. China's jungle meta is so bad they have to come to NA to learn it X_X.
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On April 14 2014 11:30 KissBlade wrote:
I gotta say Noname has steadily been stepping up. China's jungle meta is so bad they have to come to NA to learn it X_X.
no, noname still sucks.
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On April 14 2014 11:32 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 11:30 KissBlade wrote:
I gotta say Noname has steadily been stepping up. China's jungle meta is so bad they have to come to NA to learn it X_X. no, noname still sucks.
Could you say that he still has to make a name for himself?
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A little disappointed neither Phreak nor Kobe has mentioned the problem of scaling for LMQ... Renekton and Lee are trash late game. Lucian vs. Corki is a wash. Both Eve and Jax outscale their counterpart hard. Syndra vs Nid... I have no idea.
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On April 14 2014 11:30 KissBlade wrote:
I gotta say Noname has steadily been stepping up. China's jungle meta is so bad they have to come to NA to learn it X_X.
Yeah, Royal losing to SKT was almost solely due to their jungler being almost completely ineffective.
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On April 14 2014 11:33 Sleight wrote:
A little disappointed neither Phreak nor Kobe has mentioned the problem of scaling for LMQ... Renekton and Lee are trash late game. Lucian vs. Corki is a wash. Both Eve and Jax outscale their counterpart hard. Syndra vs Nid... I have no idea.
Jax is def stronger than Renek, but the Feral Flare on Lee changes things quite a bit potentially.
Syndra has 1 shot potential lategame, but if Nid spears keep landing it doesn't matter.
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On April 14 2014 11:36 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 11:33 Sleight wrote:
A little disappointed neither Phreak nor Kobe has mentioned the problem of scaling for LMQ... Renekton and Lee are trash late game. Lucian vs. Corki is a wash. Both Eve and Jax outscale their counterpart hard. Syndra vs Nid... I have no idea. Jax is def stronger than Renek, but the Feral Flare on Lee changes things quite a bit potentially. Syndra has 1 shot potential lategame, but if Nid spears keep landing it doesn't matter.
Especially because keep in mind, tank Eve actually scales worse than Feral Flare Lee. Nidalee scales MUCH better than Syndra. Jax outscales Renekton but Renekton's lvl 16 is a huge buff.
Dunno why Nidalee didn't get banned there over Soraka (?!)
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On April 14 2014 11:38 KissBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 11:36 ticklishmusic wrote:On April 14 2014 11:33 Sleight wrote:
A little disappointed neither Phreak nor Kobe has mentioned the problem of scaling for LMQ... Renekton and Lee are trash late game. Lucian vs. Corki is a wash. Both Eve and Jax outscale their counterpart hard. Syndra vs Nid... I have no idea. Jax is def stronger than Renek, but the Feral Flare on Lee changes things quite a bit potentially. Syndra has 1 shot potential lategame, but if Nid spears keep landing it doesn't matter. Especially because keep in mind, tank Eve actually scales worse than Feral Flare Lee. Nidalee scales MUCH better than Syndra. Jax outscales Renekton but Renekton's lvl 16 is a huge buff.
Especially when tank Eve gets blown up almost instantly...
And the game is over. That LMQ aggression is insane, and the heals are ridiculous. Renek goes to 20%, gets Lulu ult and shield, Nid heal and summoner heal, what a joke lol.
Ackerman with the redemption wall flash stun onto Eve, lol.
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kez and yazuki are still glaring weak points in C9T
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Don't know what I was thinking. Kez is just going to throw.
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LMQ 2-1 one more to close it out yo
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I don't know why they have Hai as a commentator. He's working hard to be neutral and he def has great game knowledge, but he's wearing a friggin' C9 shirt.
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"do chicks"-phreak.
teach these neckbeards how to live life.
On April 14 2014 11:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
I don't know why they have Hai as a commentator. He's working hard to be neutral and he def has great game knowledge, but he's wearing a friggin' C9 shirt.
it's been mentioned multiple times that c9 doesn't even scrim their sister team, i don't think hai gives a shit about c9t.
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On April 14 2014 11:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
I don't know why they have Hai as a commentator. He's working hard to be neutral and he def has great game knowledge, but he's wearing a friggin' C9 shirt.
#freescarra
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On April 14 2014 11:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
I don't know why they have Hai as a commentator. He's working hard to be neutral and he def has great game knowledge, but he's wearing a friggin' C9 shirt.
Haha, he's actually doing pretty well. I mean they did have IWD during the CA game. And IWD is terrible as an analyst in general.
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Pick twitch Pick twitch Pick twitch Pick twitch Pick twitch
Pick twitch
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On April 14 2014 11:52 wei2coolman wrote:"do chicks"-phreak. teach these neckbeards how to live life. Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 11:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
I don't know why they have Hai as a commentator. He's working hard to be neutral and he def has great game knowledge, but he's wearing a friggin' C9 shirt. it's been mentioned multiple times that c9 doesn't even scrim their sister team, i don't think hai gives a shit about c9t.
I know, but its like having a guy from Miami as the guest commentator for a Heat game. Yeah he might not be a fan, but he's got too much of an implied relationship to make it look good.
Besides, why not Doublelift?
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xwx going syndra like a baller. poor bischu
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On April 14 2014 11:55 Slow Motion wrote:xwx going syndra like a baller. poor bischu
That's just mean.
Also these picks look pretty lopsided.
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Manner Syndra.
EDIT: What is wrong with Hai? Doublelift is one of the least insightful analysts. Pretty much anyone on CLG (barring nien) is better at talking about what is going on without inserting unnecessary commentary.
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On April 14 2014 11:57 Sleight wrote:
Manner Syndra.
EDIT: What is wrong with Hai? Doublelift is one of the least insightful analysts. Pretty much anyone on CLG (barring nien) is better at talking about what is going on without inserting unnecessary commentary.
I'm just a bit against having a C9 player commentate a C9T game. A better analogy is like if a player from a MLB team commentated on one of their minor league affilite's games or something.
I don't agree with the se commentators about the heal vs. burst, there's a Twitch + Ryze for chrissakes. The only advantage C9T has here is that LMQ doesn't really have a tank (Ryze is tanky, but he's not a true tank).
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I swear, noname always go full retard mode on Khazix. Don't you even check what summoner Nidalee has?
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On April 14 2014 12:02 Sufficiency wrote:
I swear, noname always go full retard mode on Khazix. Don't you even check what summoner Nidalee has?
Its called aggression yo.
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C9T is like a team of can the ad/mid laners out carry the rest of the team
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On April 14 2014 12:12 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 12:02 Sufficiency wrote:
I swear, noname always go full retard mode on Khazix. Don't you even check what summoner Nidalee has? Its called aggression yo.
Damn. Do you work in sales?
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On April 14 2014 12:14 Nos- wrote:
C9T is like a team of can Altec out carry the rest of the team
Fixed it for you.
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Really great map control by C9T. Boggled by how Bischu is down 30 cs ... He was pretty much given the mid lane by his team.
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good engage from lmq, nice chain CC with thresh hook.
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xwx even without a blue buff is totally pwning bischu's nid, who's bischus best mid pick
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On April 14 2014 12:14 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 12:12 ticklishmusic wrote:On April 14 2014 12:02 Sufficiency wrote:
I swear, noname always go full retard mode on Khazix. Don't you even check what summoner Nidalee has? Its called aggression yo. Damn. Do you work in sales?
No, I'm bad with cold calls because I can't deal with rejection.
C9T probably doesn't know they're close in gold... and the numbers they can see (9-2 kills, minions, etc. probably make them feel like they're really behind).
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LMQ is playing a lot better in these last few games.
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The amount of wards that c9t have around baron is ridiculous.
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On April 14 2014 12:27 ketchup wrote:
The amount of wards that c9t have around baron is ridiculous.
12 wards, which is the equivalent of 4 out of 5 players using all the wards they can. o_o
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Finally. C9T extended the game by getting caught badly, but they finally closed it out. Not a bad game overall.
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C9T played really well that game. Uncharacteristic lack of map control from LMQ ... Really weird time just standing around Baron doing nothing from LMQ ...
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So the moral of the story is that C9T's team comps are shit, even when LMQ is playing it. LOL.
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If this is how LMQ wants to play its games, LMQ won't win against XDG.
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And just when I was finally impressed by LMQ. They are definitely not going to beat XDG as awful as XDG is.
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On April 14 2014 12:34 Headshot wrote:
And just when I was finally impressed by LMQ. They are definitely not going to beat XDG as awful as XDG is.
??? C9T played that REALLY well. Is it really hard to believe that a team can lose to another team playing a good game?
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On April 14 2014 12:34 Headshot wrote:
And just when I was finally impressed by LMQ. They are definitely not going to beat XDG as awful as XDG is.
Either of these teams can beat XDG. The real question is which one can beat EG.
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It looks like LMQ just gets too cocky and plays down to their competition. Seriously picking the Syndra/Ryze is pretty much a "let me show you how it's done" move that I'd be REALLY pissed about if I were C9T.
That said it seems LMQ is overall a better team, just because some players on C9T tend to go full retard at important moments in games.
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On April 14 2014 12:36 Sandster wrote:
It looks like LMQ just gets too cocky and plays down to their competition. Seriously picking the Syndra/Ryze is pretty much a "let me show you how it's done" move that I'd be REALLY pissed about if I were C9T.
That said it seems LMQ is overall a better team, just because some players on C9T tend to go full retard at important moments in games.
I think a lot of it has to do with this not being on LAN.
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On April 14 2014 12:36 Sandster wrote:
It looks like LMQ just gets too cocky and plays down to their competition. Seriously picking the Syndra/Ryze is pretty much a "let me show you how it's done" move that I'd be REALLY pissed about if I were C9T.
That said it seems LMQ is overall a better team, just because some players on C9T tend to go full retard at important moments in games.
It's an online tournament that doesn't matter. Let's be real I don't think they give a shit.
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Are we sure it isn't on lan? The teams came in to the studio at some point to shoot videos so they're in LA.
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What is this shyvana ban about?
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On April 14 2014 12:44 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Are we sure it isn't on lan? The teams came in to the studio at some point to shoot videos so they're in LA.
No face cam, so I don't think it's on lan.
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On April 14 2014 12:44 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Are we sure it isn't on lan? The teams came in to the studio at some point to shoot videos so they're in LA.
It is LAN. They had to swap out a computer first game today, no?
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On April 14 2014 12:46 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 12:44 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Are we sure it isn't on lan? The teams came in to the studio at some point to shoot videos so they're in LA. No face cam, so I don't think it's on lan.
I think they might just be trying to save money by not using the staff/equipment for the other part of the studio but they have the teams somewhere in the building.
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On April 14 2014 12:46 Sleight wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 12:44 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Are we sure it isn't on lan? The teams came in to the studio at some point to shoot videos so they're in LA. It is LAN. They had to swap out a computer first game today, no?
No face cam for the first series today zzzz
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Hai talked about how he walked by C9Ts room, I'm assuming the teams are there
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On April 14 2014 12:48 SimulatedAnneal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 12:46 wei2coolman wrote:On April 14 2014 12:44 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Are we sure it isn't on lan? The teams came in to the studio at some point to shoot videos so they're in LA. No face cam, so I don't think it's on lan. I think they might just be trying to save money by not using the staff/equipment for the other part of the studio but they have the teams somewhere in the building.
Also like half of Riot is at PAX
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I think this is the first time I've seen an inhib turret down from this strat.
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This game is over. Top lane will auto push all game, and will remove c9t's map presence. I have no idea what made c9t think it was okay to allow that to happen.
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On April 14 2014 12:49 Steins;Gate wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 12:46 Sleight wrote:On April 14 2014 12:44 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Are we sure it isn't on lan? The teams came in to the studio at some point to shoot videos so they're in LA. It is LAN. They had to swap out a computer first game today, no? No face cam for the first series today zzzz
Are you stupid or just trying to be annoying? They have had technical bugs where they paused the game to swap things. When they are online, you just get a pause and then 10 minutes. We had a 30 minute delay while they swapped shit. Not to mention Hai was talking to LMQ's managers and walked by C9T's room.
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On April 14 2014 12:59 Sleight wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 12:49 Steins;Gate wrote:On April 14 2014 12:46 Sleight wrote:On April 14 2014 12:44 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Are we sure it isn't on lan? The teams came in to the studio at some point to shoot videos so they're in LA. It is LAN. They had to swap out a computer first game today, no? No face cam for the first series today zzzz Are you stupid or just trying to be annoying? They have had technical bugs where they paused the game to swap things. When they are online, you just get a pause and then 10 minutes. We had a 30 minute delay while they swapped shit. Not to mention Hai was talking to LMQ's managers and walked by C9T's room.
I have no idea why you are being so defensive/angry (excuse me if I am wrong). I only watch the games and not the post game stuff. All I did was state simple facts added with "zzzz" to show that I'm tired, because I wasn't expecting the games to go up to 5 for both series. Please don't put words into my posts and then get all defensive. zzzzzz
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On April 14 2014 13:04 Steins;Gate wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 12:59 Sleight wrote:On April 14 2014 12:49 Steins;Gate wrote:On April 14 2014 12:46 Sleight wrote:On April 14 2014 12:44 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Are we sure it isn't on lan? The teams came in to the studio at some point to shoot videos so they're in LA. It is LAN. They had to swap out a computer first game today, no? No face cam for the first series today zzzz Are you stupid or just trying to be annoying? They have had technical bugs where they paused the game to swap things. When they are online, you just get a pause and then 10 minutes. We had a 30 minute delay while they swapped shit. Not to mention Hai was talking to LMQ's managers and walked by C9T's room. I have no idea why you are being so defensive/angry (excuse me if I am wrong). I only watch the games and not the post game stuff. All I did was state simple facts added with "zzzz" to show that I'm tired, because I wasn't expecting the games to go up to 5 for both series. Please don't put words into my posts and then get all defensive. zzzzzz
So... yes. To both.
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On April 14 2014 13:08 Sleight wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 13:04 Steins;Gate wrote:On April 14 2014 12:59 Sleight wrote:On April 14 2014 12:49 Steins;Gate wrote:On April 14 2014 12:46 Sleight wrote:On April 14 2014 12:44 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Are we sure it isn't on lan? The teams came in to the studio at some point to shoot videos so they're in LA. It is LAN. They had to swap out a computer first game today, no? No face cam for the first series today zzzz Are you stupid or just trying to be annoying? They have had technical bugs where they paused the game to swap things. When they are online, you just get a pause and then 10 minutes. We had a 30 minute delay while they swapped shit. Not to mention Hai was talking to LMQ's managers and walked by C9T's room. I have no idea why you are being so defensive/angry (excuse me if I am wrong). I only watch the games and not the post game stuff. All I did was state simple facts added with "zzzz" to show that I'm tired, because I wasn't expecting the games to go up to 5 for both series. Please don't put words into my posts and then get all defensive. zzzzzz So... yes. To both.
sure, if it makes you feel better.
yay. lmq channeling their inner KTB
EDIT: looool, c9t lost both turrets
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LMQ can take top inhib now they have baron, then they should be able to snowball the game pretty fast from there.
ROFL BLUE SUPER MINION MVP
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Too bad the final game couldn't be more exciting.
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Huh, C9T forcing it to Game 5, didn't expect that. I thought maybe 3-1. How were LMQ's losses?
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On April 14 2014 13:22 onlywonderboy wrote:
Huh, C9T forcing it to Game 5, didn't expect that. I thought maybe 3-1. How were LMQ's losses?
Didn't see game 1, but game 3 was basically a throw by way of bad teamfight
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On April 14 2014 13:22 onlywonderboy wrote:
Huh, C9T forcing it to Game 5, didn't expect that. I thought maybe 3-1. How were LMQ's losses?
First game vasili went full tilt/troll. He kept arcane shifting into the enemy team, they got stomped pretty hard by c9t. Second game, c9t got all the dragons and had one really good tf while lmq was aiming for kills all game (they picked ryze and syndra after c9t lost with them + thresh got mejias)
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LMQ has completed their transition to a full NA team. Baron true king.
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lul baron always wins heh
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LMQ showing that they DESERVE to be in the NA LCS with these baron attempts.
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On April 14 2014 13:25 Slow Motion wrote:
LMQ has completed their transition to a full NA team. Baron true king.
It's a rite of passage
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On April 14 2014 13:22 onlywonderboy wrote:
Huh, C9T forcing it to Game 5, didn't expect that. I thought maybe 3-1. How were LMQ's losses?
As you would expect mostly. The fourth game was pretty decent in that c9t actually looked like they could play a decent style(and even then, LMQ had multiple chances to win due to c9t getting caught a lot)
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can mor get caught any more?
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holy fuck this is retarded
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WUT THE HELL?! Just when I was saying this game is actually pretty good. ok =\
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LOL holy fuck both teams are tributes to the great baron nashor
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throwing at baron is too na.
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I liked Kobe's "WHAT ARE THEY DOING??" in a pained voice.
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soooo, both teams deserve to be in NALCS? o: lol
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C9T returning the favor. Also I know it's not really too bold of a claim, but C9T might be able to beat EG if that's who they end up playing well. EG guys certainly have the experience, but I could see C9T winning if they don't choke. Or Pobelter goes god mode and just shits on Bishu 3 games in a row and carries EG to victory #TheDream.
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The throw into instant counterthrow.
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C9T refuse to be out-NA'd by LMQ at Baron
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On April 14 2014 13:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
C9T returning the favor. Also I know it's not really too bold of a claim, but C9T might be able to beat EG if that's who they end up playing well. EG guys certainly have the experience, but I could see C9T winning if they don't choke. Or Pobelter goes god mode and just shits on Bishu 3 games in a row and carries EG to victory #TheDream.
Or maybe Throwbelter will show up.
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lol lmq.
with this standard i dont see them getting far even in lcs(if they get in)
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On April 14 2014 13:30 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 13:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
C9T returning the favor. Also I know it's not really too bold of a claim, but C9T might be able to beat EG if that's who they end up playing well. EG guys certainly have the experience, but I could see C9T winning if they don't choke. Or Pobelter goes god mode and just shits on Bishu 3 games in a row and carries EG to victory #TheDream. Or maybe Throwbelter will show up.
He tried to show up in their game against XDG and then Innox was like "fuck that imma go 11/0/11"
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On April 14 2014 13:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
C9T returning the favor. Also I know it's not really too bold of a claim, but C9T might be able to beat EG if that's who they end up playing well. EG guys certainly have the experience, but I could see C9T winning if they don't choke. Or Pobelter goes god mode and just shits on Bishu 3 games in a row and carries EG to victory #TheDream.
No. They can't beat EG. EG actually know how to play as a team, and they seem to show up during the BoX series. Even if throwbelter shows up, c9t can't beat EG as they currently are.
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On April 14 2014 13:34 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 13:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
C9T returning the favor. Also I know it's not really too bold of a claim, but C9T might be able to beat EG if that's who they end up playing well. EG guys certainly have the experience, but I could see C9T winning if they don't choke. Or Pobelter goes god mode and just shits on Bishu 3 games in a row and carries EG to victory #TheDream. No. They can't beat EG. EG actually know how to play as a team, and they seem to show up during the BoX series. Even if throwbelter shows up, c9t can't beat EG as they currently are.
Disagree. EG has experience but lacks skill. C9T has skill, but little experience. EG has, at best, a 60-40 edge, which may be pushed up to 70-30 because of stage fright. LMQ is a fair 50-50 to XDG. Col.Black has <10% chance vs. Curse/Dig/Coast.
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It all really depend which version of each team shows up. The main thing separating the Challenger/ relegated teams and those who are consistently in the LCS is mostly consistency.
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On April 14 2014 13:37 Sleight wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 13:34 ketchup wrote:On April 14 2014 13:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
C9T returning the favor. Also I know it's not really too bold of a claim, but C9T might be able to beat EG if that's who they end up playing well. EG guys certainly have the experience, but I could see C9T winning if they don't choke. Or Pobelter goes god mode and just shits on Bishu 3 games in a row and carries EG to victory #TheDream. No. They can't beat EG. EG actually know how to play as a team, and they seem to show up during the BoX series. Even if throwbelter shows up, c9t can't beat EG as they currently are. Disagree. EG has experience but lacks skill. C9T has skill, but little experience. EG has, at best, a 60-40 edge, which may be pushed up to 70-30 because of stage fright. LMQ is a fair 50-50 to XDG. Col.Black has <10% chance vs. Curse/Dig/Coast.
I don't know why you think EG don't have the skills/mechanics to beat C9T. That's just odd. EG also have a huge experience advantage. Not really sure what you are disagreeing with when you favor EG in the match up anyways.
I don't believe lmq is only 50-50 to XDG. XDG are clear underdogs for me here. I know LMQ didn't really look good today, but I think XDG are worse than this. I believe XWX can carry his team to victory even if Vasili is playing poorly.
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On April 14 2014 13:34 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 13:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
C9T returning the favor. Also I know it's not really too bold of a claim, but C9T might be able to beat EG if that's who they end up playing well. EG guys certainly have the experience, but I could see C9T winning if they don't choke. Or Pobelter goes god mode and just shits on Bishu 3 games in a row and carries EG to victory #TheDream. No. They can't beat EG. EG actually know how to play as a team, and they seem to show up during the BoX series. Even if throwbelter shows up, c9t can't beat EG as they currently are.
I wouldn't be so definitive about it. I mean, I agree EG has the edge based on experience, but I could see CT9 pulling it off if they really work and practice for it. I mean, EG would still be the favorites though.
Edit: lol LMQ has more than a 50% chance considering how XDG has been playing recently. I don't think LMQ takes these online games very seriously, they will show up to play at a LAN though.
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On April 14 2014 13:45 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 13:34 ketchup wrote:On April 14 2014 13:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
C9T returning the favor. Also I know it's not really too bold of a claim, but C9T might be able to beat EG if that's who they end up playing well. EG guys certainly have the experience, but I could see C9T winning if they don't choke. Or Pobelter goes god mode and just shits on Bishu 3 games in a row and carries EG to victory #TheDream. No. They can't beat EG. EG actually know how to play as a team, and they seem to show up during the BoX series. Even if throwbelter shows up, c9t can't beat EG as they currently are. I wouldn't be so definitive about it. I mean, I agree EG has the edge based on experience, but I could see CT9 pulling it off if they really work and practice for it. I mean, EG would still be the favorites though. Edit: lol LMQ has more than a 50% chance considering how XDG has been playing recently. I don't think LMQ takes these online games very seriously, they will show up to play at a LAN though.
I think Doublelift said somewhere that Vasilli plays like a god online and in scrims but chokes really hard at LANs, so that may be a factor too
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On April 14 2014 13:45 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 13:34 ketchup wrote:On April 14 2014 13:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
C9T returning the favor. Also I know it's not really too bold of a claim, but C9T might be able to beat EG if that's who they end up playing well. EG guys certainly have the experience, but I could see C9T winning if they don't choke. Or Pobelter goes god mode and just shits on Bishu 3 games in a row and carries EG to victory #TheDream. No. They can't beat EG. EG actually know how to play as a team, and they seem to show up during the BoX series. Even if throwbelter shows up, c9t can't beat EG as they currently are. I wouldn't be so definitive about it. I mean, I agree EG has the edge based on experience, but I could see CT9 pulling it off if they really work and practice for it. I mean, EG would still be the favorites though. Edit: lol LMQ has more than a 50% chance considering how XDG has been playing recently. I don't think LMQ takes these online games very seriously, they will show up to play at a LAN though.
I strongly feel that c9t don't have what it takes to beat EG as they(C9T) are playing currently. They don't seem to have any sort of leader. In that way, they sometimes revert back to playing like it's solo queue. For example, in the last game, they let their top lane base tower die at the 4:30 minute mark. No team should take that trade, and no team should let it happen.
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Fair enough. I thought they've looked pretty good recently, but I didn't watch any of the other games against LMQ today. It's moot since I think EG is going to win anyway, but maybe C9T's recent play has just looked good against shit tier Challenger teams.
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On April 14 2014 14:08 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 13:45 onlywonderboy wrote:On April 14 2014 13:34 ketchup wrote:On April 14 2014 13:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
C9T returning the favor. Also I know it's not really too bold of a claim, but C9T might be able to beat EG if that's who they end up playing well. EG guys certainly have the experience, but I could see C9T winning if they don't choke. Or Pobelter goes god mode and just shits on Bishu 3 games in a row and carries EG to victory #TheDream. No. They can't beat EG. EG actually know how to play as a team, and they seem to show up during the BoX series. Even if throwbelter shows up, c9t can't beat EG as they currently are. I wouldn't be so definitive about it. I mean, I agree EG has the edge based on experience, but I could see CT9 pulling it off if they really work and practice for it. I mean, EG would still be the favorites though. Edit: lol LMQ has more than a 50% chance considering how XDG has been playing recently. I don't think LMQ takes these online games very seriously, they will show up to play at a LAN though. I strongly feel that c9t don't have what it takes to beat EG as they(C9T) are playing currently. They don't seem to have any sort of leader. In that way, they sometimes revert back to playing like it's solo queue. For example, in the last game, they let their top lane base tower die at the 4:30 minute mark. No team should take that trade, and no team should let it happen.
I forgot which team in LCS had it happen but I should say that DID happen in a LCS match ...
I think LMQ got good odds against XDG, (XDG just looks SO bad there's not a single impressive member on the team left) while C9T versus EG really depends on Pobelter IMO.
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LMQ picked solo q champ.I think they didnt try to show their strat..They always prioritize renekton and elise..They didnt in this best of 5..Even when they picked kha..They went assassin kha instead of tanky dps kha which is alot better..picking syndra instead of lulu mid..Even though XWX showed that he can rekt nida with a lulu against CA..but well this game looked sloppy coz the aggression was insane through out the game..Its same as chinese game..When u put insane aggression other team must react and things get sloppy..
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On April 14 2014 14:24 KissBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 14:08 ketchup wrote:On April 14 2014 13:45 onlywonderboy wrote:On April 14 2014 13:34 ketchup wrote:On April 14 2014 13:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
C9T returning the favor. Also I know it's not really too bold of a claim, but C9T might be able to beat EG if that's who they end up playing well. EG guys certainly have the experience, but I could see C9T winning if they don't choke. Or Pobelter goes god mode and just shits on Bishu 3 games in a row and carries EG to victory #TheDream. No. They can't beat EG. EG actually know how to play as a team, and they seem to show up during the BoX series. Even if throwbelter shows up, c9t can't beat EG as they currently are. I wouldn't be so definitive about it. I mean, I agree EG has the edge based on experience, but I could see CT9 pulling it off if they really work and practice for it. I mean, EG would still be the favorites though. Edit: lol LMQ has more than a 50% chance considering how XDG has been playing recently. I don't think LMQ takes these online games very seriously, they will show up to play at a LAN though. I strongly feel that c9t don't have what it takes to beat EG as they(C9T) are playing currently. They don't seem to have any sort of leader. In that way, they sometimes revert back to playing like it's solo queue. For example, in the last game, they let their top lane base tower die at the 4:30 minute mark. No team should take that trade, and no team should let it happen. I forgot which team in LCS had it happen but I should say that DID happen in a LCS match ... I think LMQ got good odds against XDG, (XDG just looks SO bad there's not a single impressive member on the team left) while C9T versus EG really depends on Pobelter IMO.
Last Promotions there were Snoopeh and Krepo who just carried EG into LCS. And i assume, if Snoopeh goes hard again, then C9T has no chance with Kez.
Pobelter is 60/40 against Bischu considering amount of choking for both, Innox is 60/40 against Yazuki, but Altec and Gleebglarbu are 60/40 against Yellowpete and Krepo.
So, if Snoopeh > Kez, EG will roll, if Snoopeh fails, gg easy.
Still hope tho, that Coast/Curse will choose C9T and EG will play against CLB.
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EG really needs Snoopeh to step up during these promotion matches. When he does well early on, the team is usually able to keep their heads in the game and play to win. When he feeds, then it seems like Pobelter loses his will to live and basically goes on tilt and feeds nonstop while getting caught splitpushing.
EG's bot lane just isn't strong enough 2v2 to make many plays, and Innox is very hit or miss, especially if he's taken off comfort champs and put into the traditional tank champs top. If he's on his comfort champs of something like Nidalee, EG really needs Snoopeh to get big and beefy to present that front line if teams ever do clash. If he falls behind, EG just crumbles and loses.
Don't think Complexity Black has a shot at winning, but I definitely do think LMQ has a very good shot still against XDG. Let's be honest, XDG's bot lane is very poor because Zuna is playing. LMQs solo laners will not lose 1v1 to XDGs with jungle pressure most likely going to bot lane to hep out Zuna. The key will be whether or not Xmithie can make a difference in his lanes to either get one of his solo laners rolling or if he can prevent Zuna from massively feeding. When XDG was winning, ManCloud was by far the best mid laner in all of NA, and Xmithie was wrecking lanes from the jungle. If they want to win, they need that to happen again, otherwise Zuna will just get rolled early while attempting to play his hypercarry AD carries.
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I think eg will loose. EG knows that the last split was shamefull and if they make it to another they have to endure everything again and again.
There is no way they get better and they know it. They will loose this and complexity will get the spot.
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On April 15 2014 05:51 TitusVI wrote:
I think eg will loose. EG knows that the last split was shamefull and if they make it to another they have to endure everything again and again.
There is no way they get better and they know it. They will loose this and complexity will get the spot.
1. they probably play C9Tempest
2. If for some strange reason curse/dig/coast pick c9 and EG gets Complexity.... well just remember last time Col or then TBD "looked good" and EG was 3 EU rejects happened.
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I keep seeing people say Yazuki is a weak link of C9T but I think he's one of their stronger players. Godlike just made him look bad in that set because he's also great top laner, probably Balls/Dyrus level. I think Yazuki is way better than Innox, Yazuki went pretty much blow for blow with Zion in the Coast VS TWZ set (pretty sure he walked out of that set with a 2.0 KDA) and there's no denying that Zion is better than Innox.
The big issue for C9T is Bischu and Kez, who are both stupidly inconsistent. Then again, they will likely be against Snoopeh and Pobelter, who are also stupidly inconsistent.
If C9T VS EG happens, I'd say Yazuki is better than Innox and Altec/Gleeb are miles better than Pete/Krepo. Only chance for EG is if Godbelter shows up and/or they strategically outplay (which is a realistic possibility) because I think they will lose 2 out of 3 lanes most games.
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On April 15 2014 09:31 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
I keep seeing people say Yazuki is a weak link of C9T but I think he's one of their stronger players. Godlike just made him look bad in that set because he's also great top laner, probably Balls/Dyrus level. I think Yazuki is way better than Innox, Yazuki went pretty much blow for blow with Zion in the Coast VS TWZ set (pretty sure he walked out of that set with a 2.0 KDA) and there's no denying that Zion is better than Innox.
The big issue for C9T is Bischu and Kez, who are both stupidly inconsistent. Then again, they will likely be against Snoopeh and Pobelter, who are also stupidly inconsistent.
If C9T VS EG happens, I'd say Yazuki is better than Innox and Altec/Gleeb are miles better than Pete/Krepo. Only chance for EG is if Godbelter shows up and/or they strategically outplay (which is a realistic possibility) because I think they will lose 2 out of 3 lanes most games.
I dunno dude, to be fair right now C9T are all about Altec.
Yazuki tends to choke hard on LANs, same to Bischu and Kez is just mediocre. Bischu can hit moments of biggest brilliance from every LCS midlaner but oh well.
On April 15 2014 04:15 Roffles wrote:
EG really needs Snoopeh to step up during these promotion matches. When he does well early on, the team is usually able to keep their heads in the game and play to win. When he feeds, then it seems like Pobelter loses his will to live and basically goes on tilt and feeds nonstop while getting caught splitpushing.
EG's bot lane just isn't strong enough 2v2 to make many plays, and Innox is very hit or miss, especially if he's taken off comfort champs and put into the traditional tank champs top. If he's on his comfort champs of something like Nidalee, EG really needs Snoopeh to get big and beefy to present that front line if teams ever do clash. If he falls behind, EG just crumbles and loses.
Don't think Complexity Black has a shot at winning, but I definitely do think LMQ has a very good shot still against XDG. Let's be honest, XDG's bot lane is very poor because Zuna is playing. LMQs solo laners will not lose 1v1 to XDGs with jungle pressure most likely going to bot lane to hep out Zuna. The key will be whether or not Xmithie can make a difference in his lanes to either get one of his solo laners rolling or if he can prevent Zuna from massively feeding. When XDG was winning, ManCloud was by far the best mid laner in all of NA, and Xmithie was wrecking lanes from the jungle. If they want to win, they need that to happen again, otherwise Zuna will just get rolled early while attempting to play his hypercarry AD carries.
Agreed about Snoopeh, he will be the key point. But he has that stupidly absurd ability of going hard in playoffs always, so i'm not worried a lot for EG. Everyone can blame Snoopeh hard, but he's strong leader and he rarely fails in big moments.
Plus i expect C9T to go hard on Krepo with banning playmaking supports probably, because focusing Pobelter in pick/ban phase is weird and Innox won't bring anything new probably.
I guess, if CLB faces Curse, then they have good shot, because i don't see CLB being outplayed in lanes and if Brokenshard doesn't die to lizard elder, then probably they can proceed to win 1-2 games even with their atrocious teamfighting. Coast will probably crush them where they stand in lanes, Dignitas are teamfighting way better and same with EG.
XDG to stop LMQ will have to play games of their lives tho. C9T showed yesterday that LoMoQ aren't unbeatable and if Zuna plays his best 3 games from his 79-81 televised matches in LCS, Worlds and BotA, then they can do it. Mancloud and XWX have same playstyles, Benny can at least hold his ground and Xmithie > NoName. So, Sheep and Zuna will have to play their A-game.
On April 15 2014 05:51 TitusVI wrote:
I think eg will loose. EG knows that the last split was shamefull and if they make it to another they have to endure everything again and again.
There is no way they get better and they know it. They will loose this and complexity will get the spot.
There is nothing shameful in being worse than top-3 teams. If things could go a bit better for EG, they could easy get 12-13 victories and not 7 and it could be 4th place, not 7th.
And lol, saying that Pobelter and Innox can't get better is a joke. Krepo wasn't bad either last split, Snoopeh still has his moments of brilliance and with all hate which Yellowpete is getting for 2 seasons, he's still high in soloqueue, so he deserves to be there.
compLexity was crushed once already when everyone was saying that it's gg for EG, Westrice and Arthelon will rock, Snoopeh is useless and so on. After 3 games Snoopeh had 45 KDA, Arthelon left the team after that loss and Pobelter stole Baron Nashor with Ziggs's ult.
And C9T will have to play best games of their lives to go into LCS.
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I like how they're just dumping bo3 format for last 5 minutes :D
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I think this episode truly shown that Monte is the guy that actually commentates and analyses League and Thorin is just good at asking questions and repeating other's insight.
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It works but Thorin also wins me over in the fact that he is very passionate and genuine about what he does.
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On April 15 2014 12:55 KissBlade wrote:
It works but Thorin also wins me over in the fact that he is very passionate and genuine about what he does.
Agreed. He might looks like a hillbill viking but he's blunt and passionate, that's sick combo with Monte's ego.
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On April 15 2014 12:04 AlterKot wrote:
I think this episode truly shown that Monte is the guy that actually commentates and analyses League and Thorin is just good at asking questions and repeating other's insight.
Being good at asking questions is a uncommon and worthwhile skill.
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On April 15 2014 22:09 Hagen0 wrote:
Being good at asking questions is a uncommon and worthwhile skill.
I wasn't trying to undermine him, I have nothing but respect for his journalistic work, he's one of my favorite progaming-related personalities and one of my favourite interviewers overall. However, I was suprised when him and Monte were talking as equals in previous episodes of the show, because I didn't think Thorin had the same knowledge and insight as Monte. And the latest episode shown that in fact Thorin was just stating his opinions based on his gut feeling, without the same thought process behind them as Monte. Summoning Insight is still my favourite League show, but once they get more guests, I wish Thorin will step more into a hosting role while Monte and the rest of the guys will do the talking.
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Complexity Black vs. Coast / Curse / dig: Complexity's best shot would be against an out-of-shape Coast. Nintendude isn't very good (though probably better than Brokenshard), Shiphtur's been inconsistent lately (though the same applies to Prolly), and Wizfujiin has been a disappointment overall and could lose to Robertxlee if Robert shows up with his game face on; howerver, Zion's playstyle is similar to but flat out better than Westrice's, and even then Complexity would be further disadvantaged from LAN stage fright, so I'd give them a 20% chance on a good day vs. Coast. Worst case for Complexity would be to face off vs. dig or Curse on a day that Robertxlee has no idea what he's doing, in which case they'll just get schooled and humiliated. I'm gonna be generous and give Complexity a 10% chance overall to get into LCS.
C9T vs. EG: Yazuki is probably better than Innox and Altec is better than Yellowpete; it's on them to carry C9T to victory. Pobelter is better than Bischu though, and Krepo is better than Gleebglarbu. I'm giving EG a slight lead overall thanks to better coordination from having played together for longer and that I'm expecting C9T to suffer from LAN stage fright a bit, but there's a very real possibility that Yazuki or Altec will crush their lanes and snowball into game wins; I'd give EG a 60-40 edge for the series, I'm expecting it to be close.
LMQ vs. XDG: Regardless of what the LMQ apologists will say about it, I was really underwhelmed by their recent series vs. C9T and I think they're going to fall way short of the hype. That said, it won't really take another Quantic (Cloud 9) to snatch up XDG's spot with how they've been playing. This looks similar to the C9T vs. EG matchup in terms of relative strength (very evenly matched), but with the challenger team being a bit stronger in the case of LMQ. I'd give LMQ a very slight 55-45 edge.
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