• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:14
CEST 07:14
KST 14:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star2Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced13Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid22
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool 2026 GSL Tour plans announced MaNa leaves Team Liquid Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
Data needed [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Gypsy to Korea ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group A
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2127 users

[EU LCS] S4 Spring Week 4 - Page 17

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 15 16 17 18 19 49 Next All
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 06 2014 20:28 GMT
#321
There's a new Thorin article, guess they just wanted to let us read it instead of waiting for millenium to surrender.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
February 06 2014 20:28 GMT
#322
On February 07 2014 05:26 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 05:25 Ente wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:19 Swords wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:18 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:17 Ente wrote:
and Tristanas itembuild hurts him.. he couldnt go for a def item because of his shiv ziggs ult just destroys him

hindsight is 20/20.

Roccat dumpstering on Mil just makes the build look worse than it is.


To be fair, Ente was criticizing the build before Roccat got a lead in the game.

For the wrong reason, He was complaining the build does no damage, but that's like saying fish suck cuz they can't run.
The build is doing what the build was intended, which was get him to hypercarry status, and now it has.
I'll be the first to criticize shitty ADC builds from EU players, as most people here know, but this build actually makes sense.

well.. I disagree trist reaches hardcarry status after finishing IE/LW and an AS item that can either be blade or shiv(I personally prefer only zeal) but getting both botrk AND shiv is my main issue, I would disagree with only shiv but I can understand it the 1800 extra gold for blade is a problem

blade and shiv are fine in part of a 4 item offensive build, it's just the 2 item timing is a bit underwhelming, but Mil's plan isn't to fight at Trist's 2 item timing.

correct but the problem was the extremly late defensive item.
But this discussion isnt needed anymore anyway because it didnt really hurt them too much and the time is over anyway trist has what she wants (besides finish bv, switch out shiv for PD and get zephyr but those arent as big)
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 06 2014 20:28 GMT
#323
On February 07 2014 05:27 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 05:26 Redox wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
Is that challenger game worth watching? its semifinal.

Imo almost all of those games were worth watching. Often better than the LCS games.

TTD will probably get curb stomped, C9EU vs NiP should be good in the finals though

Stomps can also be nice to watch from time to time.
Off-season = best season
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 20:29:52
February 06 2014 20:28 GMT
#324
On February 07 2014 05:26 Ente wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:
fucking jree gets caught, dies.

At the point, Creaton might as well go full yolo queue, and just build full damage instead of getting defensive item. Getting a PD would be so strong at this point. (actually BT might be a better pick up)

you are AS capped with botrk/PD/q and as boots so getting 2 as items is very overkill, So yes BT is better but dont think he can afford it vs a ziggs he might have to though

I think the consistent crit with PD might do more damage than getting BT though; not sure, would have to math it out.

On February 07 2014 05:28 Ente wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 05:26 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:25 Ente wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:19 Swords wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:18 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:17 Ente wrote:
and Tristanas itembuild hurts him.. he couldnt go for a def item because of his shiv ziggs ult just destroys him

hindsight is 20/20.

Roccat dumpstering on Mil just makes the build look worse than it is.


To be fair, Ente was criticizing the build before Roccat got a lead in the game.

For the wrong reason, He was complaining the build does no damage, but that's like saying fish suck cuz they can't run.
The build is doing what the build was intended, which was get him to hypercarry status, and now it has.
I'll be the first to criticize shitty ADC builds from EU players, as most people here know, but this build actually makes sense.

well.. I disagree trist reaches hardcarry status after finishing IE/LW and an AS item that can either be blade or shiv(I personally prefer only zeal) but getting both botrk AND shiv is my main issue, I would disagree with only shiv but I can understand it the 1800 extra gold for blade is a problem

blade and shiv are fine in part of a 4 item offensive build, it's just the 2 item timing is a bit underwhelming, but Mil's plan isn't to fight at Trist's 2 item timing.

correct but the problem was the extremly late defensive item.
But this discussion isnt needed anymore anyway because it didnt really hurt them too much and the time is over anyway trist has what she wants (besides finish bv, switch out shiv for PD and get zephyr but those arent as big)

Defensive item not an issue right now, Creaton isn't dying right away or anything. He's doing the damage he needs to do in teamfights. No one picks trist to get 3 offensive items, and then pick up defensive item as a 4th item.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 06 2014 20:28 GMT
#325
Is the stream dead?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 06 2014 20:29 GMT
#326
On February 07 2014 05:28 Alaric wrote:
Is the stream dead?


Every stream died it seems.
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
February 06 2014 20:30 GMT
#327
On February 07 2014 05:28 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 05:26 Ente wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:
fucking jree gets caught, dies.

At the point, Creaton might as well go full yolo queue, and just build full damage instead of getting defensive item. Getting a PD would be so strong at this point. (actually BT might be a better pick up)

you are AS capped with botrk/PD/q and as boots so getting 2 as items is very overkill, So yes BT is better but dont think he can afford it vs a ziggs he might have to though

I think the consistent crit with PD might do more damage than getting BT though; not sure, would have to math it out.

thats actually possible, would argue that getting the bt would be still better because if you have no MR/defensive item you will need more lifesteal to maybe survive a fight
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
February 06 2014 20:30 GMT
#328
Twitch chat says its the nsa.
Science>Mechanics
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 06 2014 20:31 GMT
#329
stream comes back up. Mil is the winner. that would be so funny.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 06 2014 20:31 GMT
#330
Froggen drank too much alcohol after the win and decided to go back to his old ways.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
February 06 2014 20:32 GMT
#331
Power shortage again ?
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 06 2014 20:32 GMT
#332
Overpow trying so hard to beat XiaoWeiXiao's farm record.
liftlift > tsm
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 06 2014 20:32 GMT
#333
Poll: Recommend Millenium vs ROCCAT Spring Week 4?

Yes (1)
 
17%

No (2)
 
33%

If you have time (3)
 
50%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Millenium vs ROCCAT Spring Week 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
February 06 2014 20:32 GMT
#334
I think Milenium lost :D
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
February 06 2014 20:32 GMT
#335
No one will ever know what the casters said during offline time.
Science>Mechanics
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
February 06 2014 20:32 GMT
#336
Time for some Gambit gaming.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 06 2014 20:33 GMT
#337
On February 07 2014 05:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 05:21 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:17 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:48 Chemiczny84 wrote:
can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance



{M} - Shyvana, Elise, Gragas, Tristana, Lulu
Roccat - Renekton, Pantheon, Ziggs, Ezreal, Thresh.

First few minutes were a pure slaughterhouse with bunch of towerdives and escapes.

Somewhere near 6 minute, Kerp towerdived t2 in mid and got Overpow in solo kill for first blood.
9-30 - Shyvana and Elise towerdiving Renekton, almost got him, Croc stays alive though with few hitpoints, almost got Elise killed.

No objectives, killed, gold is even.


{M} are focusing huge on Renekton, ganking him with help of Elise and Gragas, getting kill for Shyvana finally.
Guess, after it Xaxus typed "#spacecreated" or "worth", while Roccat got first dragon.

Spirit of Spectral Wraith for Overpow's Ziggs, 0 towers taken at 15th minute, gold is even still, 300 gold for Roccat.

Suddenly, Pantheon ganks bot, Lulu is down. Huge Elise and Gragas rotation after it, amazing ult from Kerp, double kill for him.
Bottom tower for {M} went down though, gold is still 300 for Roccat.


Game is still pretty much even.
Ziggs has endless sustain from jungle because of SoSW.

Roccat rotates as five into their red buff, where Elise and Shyvana were collapsing on Pantheon.
Pantheon escapes, Elise and Shyvana went down.

Polish powerhouse collapsed onto Gragas after it, Kerp went down as well.
4-4, 1-1 in towers, 0-1 in dragons, 0-0 in Baron Nashors, 2k for Roccat, second dragon is alive.


Huge 5v5 on dragon, Elise took it down for {M}.
Creaton's Tristana manmoded huge with deep jumps and got Vander's Thresh and Jankos's Pantheon went down to Kev1n's Shyvana, Creaton escaped, Jree's Lulu died though.

After it, Overpow grabbed kill on Kerp with ultimate.
6-6 in kills, 1-1 dragons, 2-2 towers, 0-0 Baron Nashors, 1k gold for Roccat.


Araneae's Elise got caught near Baron Nashor, got killed, Roccat are collapsing on Baron Nashor.
Shyvana, Gragas and Lulu tried to interrupt, Shyvana and Gragas died, Celaver's Ezreal died, Lulu escaped.
Baron Nashor went to Roccat, Creaton was splitpushing bottom until Overpow appeared.

7-9 in kills, 26th minute, 3k for Roccat, 4-3 towers for {M}, 1-1 dragons, 0-1 Baron Nashors.
Oh, already 1-2 dragons after Roccat took it for free.
4k advantage for Poles.


Roccat rotate into {M} jungle, steal blue.
Siege near {M} t2 starts.
Gragas and Tristana are clearing almost instantly, though.

Jankos on Pantheon went to splitpush mid, grand skyfall is available for him.
*lol, just realised that Overpow has ghost as second summoner's spell*
Elise missed flash-cocoon while i was typing.
{M} finally forced out of their t2, Roccat grab it to make their advantage same to 5,5k gold.
30 minutes are behind.


4th Dragon and 2nd Baron Nashor are almost alive.
Teams are collapsing in the middle.

Tactical advantage in on Roccat's side as they're closer to Baron Nashor's pit.
Huge fight occurs, Araneae almost instantly went down, Overpow chased Creaton and killed him, Kev1n died as well.
Noone went down from Roccat, free Baron Nashor for them almost.

10k advantage for Roccat, then Kerp tried to burst Celaver, he escapes with few hitpoints with help of lantern, Kerp went down to Overpow.
9k advantage after Elise snatched dragon though.

35th minute is here and Roccat are pushing t2, taking it for free, 10k again and they're sieging t3.
Taking it as well, retreating.
11k gold for Poles, 2-2 in dragons, 2-0 Baron Nashors, 6-4 in towers, 13-7 in kills.


After few minutes of farming and backing, Poles came back to exposed {M}'s inhibitor.
Got it easily, almost killed Elise.
Sieging top t3, {M} are trying to hold with newly picked IE for Creaton. Even though Tristana is a huge liablity without defensive items Overpow is smashing her completely.
Roccat engages under t3, Vander almost went down, noone died, Roccat retreat.
40th minute, 12,5k gold advantage for Roccat.


Overpow's Ziggs finally got rid of Spirit of Spectral Wraith, got Rylai's Crystal Scepter and he's full build now with almost 500 creep kills.
Free Baron Nashor for Roccat, 3-0 here.
13,5k gold advantage, Poles are sieging top t3 again.

Middle inhibitor for {M} is respawned though. Nevermind, died instantly almost.
Huge fight occurs, Araneae almost went down, Jree's Lulu died, 1v0 for Poles.
14k gold advantage, siege continues.

Flash hook from Vander, Kerp is dead, Jankos died as well from Tristana, second inhibitor went down, Araneae, well, dived and died.
Creaton is trying to do his best, dunno if it can help.
Roccat retreat again with 2 dead inhibitors for {M}, 15k advantage for Poles and suddenly stream died :D


Finally Twitch is alive again, Quickshot is making his analysis.
OKAY, SO SEEMS LIKE ROCCAT WON.
Nevermind.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 06 2014 20:33 GMT
#338
£20 says aranae got caught and roccat won
Glorious SEA doto
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 20:34:40
February 06 2014 20:33 GMT
#339
.
HOLY CHECK!
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
February 06 2014 20:33 GMT
#340
riot pulling a bw'esque buffer into gg
Prev 1 15 16 17 18 19 49 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 46m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 158
NeuroSwarm 139
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6090
Zeus 651
Hyuk 465
Snow 269
Shine 65
Bale 28
Icarus 8
Terrorterran 8
League of Legends
JimRising 900
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K822
m0e_tv454
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King216
Other Games
summit1g13902
C9.Mang0458
WinterStarcraft456
ViBE136
Livibee36
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV301
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 89
• practicex 43
• Mapu7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1302
• Lourlo787
Other Games
• Scarra973
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 46m
Wardi Open
4h 46m
Afreeca Starleague
4h 46m
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
10h 46m
RSL Revival
20h 46m
GSL
1d 2h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 4h
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 5h
RSL Revival
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Escore
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Universe Titan Cup
5 days
Rogue vs Percival
Ladder Legends
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Ladder Legends
6 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W3
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.