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On September 21 2013 15:07 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 15:00 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:55 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:53 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:49 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:45 Lmui wrote:
Considering how much regi has on his plate, he's an impressive player but in order to truly compete at a worlds level he needs to leave the TSM management side to someone else, whether it be hiring someone to deal with day-to-day tasks and appointing Dan CEO or whatever, being allowed to practice 12 hours a day, get enough sleep and not having to stress about anything other than the game would probably move him to at least mancloud's level. So you really think it's lack of practice that he not only goes 1v1 vs a fed Jax, but he waits until his own tower dies? If you still do shit like that after 3 or so years of playing with LoL, then you have deeper issues than not practicing enough. Nobody on TSM could have stopped Jax solo. Whether or not he misplayed or channeled Faker, nothing would have gotten him out of that fight in any sort of a winning fashion. Mmm, not sure what you meant now, and how does it supposed to justify Regi's action. He had three choice: 1. Go back, let Jax take the tower. 2. Fight Jax under the tower. 3. Wait till Jax destroys the tower, THEN fight him. He chose 3. TSM was bleeding gold at that point. To let SKT get further ahead for free isn't an option. 2 or 3 is the same result regardless by the time Regi got there. It's like those games in soloq where the 1 guy engages while the enemy threatens to take your 2nd inhib and then people flame him for it. Why? Because it was the only option. Rewatch the Vod. Regi was there the whole time, but he wasn't sure what he wanted to do, danced around. When he made up his mind, the tower has been just destroyed. Yes, if it was a random solo q player at a random solo q game, I probably wouldn't give shit to him, but he's supposed to be a professional pro gamer, one of the best midlaners in NA (whatever that means), and the team captain. You either go in (which is suicide, but still, might be "his only chance"), or not, there's no room for doing the third option. /he would've died with the tower standing as well, so it's especially disturbing/
bad decision, i agree, but tbh that's what a lot of teams do. Let inhib turret to die, THEN engage. regi not the only player to do something that /facepalm.
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Find your bunkers now Americans, the Chinese are coming!!
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The only hope TSM had there was regi stalling jax and hoping his team can force a 4v4 fight at baron which never happened. Jax was incredibly strong at that point whereas zed was really weak. In a 4v4 without jax and zed TSM had a chance to win that team fight but it never happened.
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On September 21 2013 15:09 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 15:07 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 15:00 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:55 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:53 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:49 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:45 Lmui wrote:
Considering how much regi has on his plate, he's an impressive player but in order to truly compete at a worlds level he needs to leave the TSM management side to someone else, whether it be hiring someone to deal with day-to-day tasks and appointing Dan CEO or whatever, being allowed to practice 12 hours a day, get enough sleep and not having to stress about anything other than the game would probably move him to at least mancloud's level. So you really think it's lack of practice that he not only goes 1v1 vs a fed Jax, but he waits until his own tower dies? If you still do shit like that after 3 or so years of playing with LoL, then you have deeper issues than not practicing enough. Nobody on TSM could have stopped Jax solo. Whether or not he misplayed or channeled Faker, nothing would have gotten him out of that fight in any sort of a winning fashion. Mmm, not sure what you meant now, and how does it supposed to justify Regi's action. He had three choice: 1. Go back, let Jax take the tower. 2. Fight Jax under the tower. 3. Wait till Jax destroys the tower, THEN fight him. He chose 3. TSM was bleeding gold at that point. To let SKT get further ahead for free isn't an option. 2 or 3 is the same result regardless by the time Regi got there. It's like those games in soloq where the 1 guy engages while the enemy threatens to take your 2nd inhib and then people flame him for it. Why? Because it was the only option. Rewatch the Vod. Regi was there the whole time, but he wasn't sure what he wanted to do, danced around. When he made up his mind, the tower has been just destroyed. Yes, if it was a random solo q player at a random solo q game, I probably wouldn't give shit to him, but he's supposed to be a professional pro gamer, one of the best midlaners in NA (whatever that means), and the team captain. You either go in (which is suicide, but still, might be "his only chance"), or not, there's no room for doing the third option. /he would've died with the tower standing as well, so it's especially disturbing/ bad decision, i agree, but tbh that's what a lot of teams do. Let inhib turret to die, THEN engage. regi not the only player to do something that /facepalm.
Oh yes, that always gives me the cringes, it's just... you'd think they have some common sense.
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regi went in thinking that the tower wouldn't fall and be at 1 hit. but nop
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On September 21 2013 15:11 Caphe wrote:
Find your bunkers now Americans, the Chinese are coming!!
But we won the cold war... :D
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On September 21 2013 15:14 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 15:11 Caphe wrote:
Find your bunkers now Americans, the Chinese are coming!! But we won the cold war... :D
And now they come for REVENGE!! 
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On September 21 2013 15:14 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 15:11 Caphe wrote:
Find your bunkers now Americans, the Chinese are coming!! But we won the cold war... :D
Can you even win a cold war?
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Actually, TSM has a big chance. comA vision control is so poor.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
"They play very safe"
Remember, safe by OMG standards is not tower diving every 30 seconds
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On September 21 2013 15:15 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 15:14 wei2coolman wrote:On September 21 2013 15:11 Caphe wrote:
Find your bunkers now Americans, the Chinese are coming!! But we won the cold war... :D Can you even win a cold war?
with bombs, starwars program, and apple pie.
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On September 21 2013 15:03 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:57 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:53 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:50 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:46 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:41 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:35 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:32 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:28 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:23 Gahlo wrote:
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In which case you have no way of asserting your statement as fact or even backing it up.
"Hurhur Reginald" is not a defense. I'm not keen on defending Wings, he barely got any competitive showings, there's no way I'd like to get into a serius Dyrus vs Wings arguement. That's why I want TSM to give some playtime for him. He has an interesting champion pool, he's really talented, and Dyrus is preeetty mediocore since... I don't know, a long time. He's not consistent at all. A "good form" Dyrus is probably better than any NA top laner, but will you wait months for it to reappear, or put him under pressure, switching him out in some games? (obviously not talking about world's or playoffs) Wings has previously said he doesn't want to be competitive. If he doesn't want to compete, he won't be anywhere close to tournament level. He wasn't tournament level when he stopped playing. He's the definition of a has-been. All right then, didn't know about that. My point still stands though, that TSM not only needs personal changes, but 1 or 2 extra guys, to maintain a feel of pressure. They'll always be stuck if they live in baylife. If they're going to change anything, it's mid and jungler though. TOO's mechanics limit his impact immensely. Whether or not you like it, Regi spending 2-3 hours a day on managerial work + worry about it seriously impacts not only his, but his teams practice ability. I don't know the free agent mid pool, but I think it'd be hard to find somebody that is as talented as an on form Regi + shotcalling ability. They need a new team captain anyway. We can argue whether Regi is shit or not, his shotcalling is nothing that could not be topped. Yes, everyone goes apeshit, when he flashes to initiate, and his team wins, but when he's farming bot, giving the enemy team a free baron, and such, then it makes you wonder. Also, communication issues are always blamed when it comes to TSM. Even at the last game, what the hell was that from Xpecial and Regi? They were o ntwo different pages. TSM needs someone they can respect, and has a much better understanding about the game, and who is much more easier to come to terms with. "I'm right, you're wrong" Reginald is not exactly the ideal leader - yes, he IS a leader, which is better than having 5 mute guys on your team, but his far from ideal. Don't judge a 1 week span by a 30 minute reality show. Even The Rain Man talked about the same thing after he left the team (there's a vid where he talks about Regi, quite sad). In the middle of S2. Yes, TRM is an asshole (I like him though), but that's not the point now. You mean the guy who wanted to play soloq all day instead of scrim? That's one of the few occasions where I'm okay with Regi being an asshole and shouting down somebody. What happens? TRM gets kicked, TSM picks up Dyrus and they switch to a scrim based regimen, and TSM doesn't lose a single NA Lan for the rest of the season. He wasn't talking about just him and Regi, but Regi overall, and he's dumb approach to everything. But if you are convinced he's a smart player, I guess that have to be respected. As for me, I respect what he achieved so far in his life, but I find him to be TSM's ultimate bane, and a guy, who's still around S1-S2, and just can't adapt. He's not a good strategist, he's not too smart game-wise, and he's only benefit to the team is that he has a very strong will, and everyone respects him, for better or worse.
He can't adapt? It's taken til S3 for them to be knocked off of best NA team and they only fall to 2nd. Who are you going to bring in to play? It isn't a simple addition by subtraction situation. Whoever you put in there has to be, hands down, better than Regi.
The only viable option TSM has is for Regi to shed excess responsibilities such as managing and analyst/coaching. Dan is the perfect person to do this as long as he is willing and capable.
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Bigpomelo out, Coma in. Very interesting move, I thought pomelo has been performing well.
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On September 21 2013 15:18 JazzVortical wrote:
Bigpomelo out, Coma in. Very interesting move, I thought pomelo has been performing well.
There's virtually zero ways OMG goes out, good chance to give their sub some time to stretch his legs
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i really want OMG to win the tournament
not because i like them but because imagine how godliek the skins will be they make for the s3 winners
just imagine OMG Renekton skin........gg
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omg with that tpa mousepad.
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OMG just letting their sub get some practice as this game doesnt matter that much if they win or lose
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On September 21 2013 15:18 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 15:18 JazzVortical wrote:
Bigpomelo out, Coma in. Very interesting move, I thought pomelo has been performing well. There's virtually zero ways OMG goes out, good chance to give their sub some time to stretch his legs
pomelo dying 2 times against gaming gear was too shamefurrr.
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On September 21 2013 15:18 UmberBane wrote:
Xpecial looks depressed
That's just hamster being hamster.
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EPT
