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Australia18228 Posts
GG.eu ignoring the handshake, so much arrogance
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 21 2013 14:59 Inflicted_ wrote:
GG.eu ignoring the handshake, so much arrogance
Naniwa, please tell us about the culture of your people.
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I just did the math.
My "team" is doing terrible at ~110th place in fantasy but my "anti-team" has enough for 13th
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Why is fantasy so hard T___T
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On September 21 2013 14:58 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:56 Fusilero wrote:
Btw I just woke up and see that faker has been playing a load of mid riven today, how did that go? His Riven was meh but it didn't matter, he could have played Sion if he wanted and they still would have won
He did say in the interview that "i never played riven in kroea, but since we arrived in the us i've played him in solo q and he was fun."
And in the korean interview their bot lane said that faker just really wanted to play riven despite the other people on the team not being too happy about it. I don't think it's fakers tryhard zed counterpick 
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On September 21 2013 14:55 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:53 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:49 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:45 Lmui wrote:
Considering how much regi has on his plate, he's an impressive player but in order to truly compete at a worlds level he needs to leave the TSM management side to someone else, whether it be hiring someone to deal with day-to-day tasks and appointing Dan CEO or whatever, being allowed to practice 12 hours a day, get enough sleep and not having to stress about anything other than the game would probably move him to at least mancloud's level. So you really think it's lack of practice that he not only goes 1v1 vs a fed Jax, but he waits until his own tower dies? If you still do shit like that after 3 or so years of playing with LoL, then you have deeper issues than not practicing enough. Nobody on TSM could have stopped Jax solo. Whether or not he misplayed or channeled Faker, nothing would have gotten him out of that fight in any sort of a winning fashion. Mmm, not sure what you meant now, and how does it supposed to justify Regi's action. He had three choice: 1. Go back, let Jax take the tower. 2. Fight Jax under the tower. 3. Wait till Jax destroys the tower, THEN fight him. He chose 3.
TSM was bleeding gold at that point. To let SKT get further ahead for free isn't an option. 2 or 3 is the same result regardless by the time Regi got there. It's like those games in soloq where the 1 guy engages while the enemy threatens to take your 2nd inhib and then people flame him for it. Why? Because it was the only option.
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I'm not even sure why I even make polls for every ggeu/mineski game. I'd be better off just making a poll if they ever have an interesting game.
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On September 21 2013 14:58 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 14:51 wei2coolman wrote:On September 21 2013 14:51 oneofthem wrote:On September 21 2013 14:50 Cubu wrote:
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance? if t1 loses to gg.eu 7%, the dream is still alive Can't OMG lose their next 3 games and they'd be tied? OMG also has to lose to lemondogs. So 7% * 7%?
TSM have tiebreaker chance if OMG loses to lemondogs or SKT loses to GG should TSM win upcoming game.
OMG SKT1
WW -
WL (0.93)(0.07)
LW (0.07)(0.93)
LL (0.07)(0.07)
((0.93)(0.07)+(0.93)(0.07)+(0.07)(0.07))/1 = 0.1351
So 13.51% chance?
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On September 21 2013 14:59 Inflicted_ wrote:
GG.eu ignoring the handshake, so much arrogance
I don't blame them, they have no reason to be here amogst the best of the regions ... No idea who ever thought this would work out. Stomp games all over againt Minsky and GG.EU
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On September 21 2013 15:00 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:59 Inflicted_ wrote:
GG.eu ignoring the handshake, so much arrogance Naniwa, please tell us about the culture of your people.
gg.eu can't be naniwa they're not even good by foreigner standards
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On September 21 2013 15:00 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:55 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:53 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:49 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:45 Lmui wrote:
Considering how much regi has on his plate, he's an impressive player but in order to truly compete at a worlds level he needs to leave the TSM management side to someone else, whether it be hiring someone to deal with day-to-day tasks and appointing Dan CEO or whatever, being allowed to practice 12 hours a day, get enough sleep and not having to stress about anything other than the game would probably move him to at least mancloud's level. So you really think it's lack of practice that he not only goes 1v1 vs a fed Jax, but he waits until his own tower dies? If you still do shit like that after 3 or so years of playing with LoL, then you have deeper issues than not practicing enough. Nobody on TSM could have stopped Jax solo. Whether or not he misplayed or channeled Faker, nothing would have gotten him out of that fight in any sort of a winning fashion. Mmm, not sure what you meant now, and how does it supposed to justify Regi's action. He had three choice: 1. Go back, let Jax take the tower. 2. Fight Jax under the tower. 3. Wait till Jax destroys the tower, THEN fight him. He chose 3. TSM was bleeding gold at that point. To let SKT get further ahead for free isn't an option. 2 or 3 is the same result regardless by the time Regi got there. It's like those games in soloq where the 1 guy engages while the enemy threatens to take your 2nd inhib and then people flame him for it. Why? Because it was the only option.
It was checkmate once the game got to the point where they had enough pressure on the map to split push.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 21 2013 15:01 Hesmyrr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:58 stuchiu wrote:On September 21 2013 14:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 14:51 wei2coolman wrote:On September 21 2013 14:51 oneofthem wrote:On September 21 2013 14:50 Cubu wrote:
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance? if t1 loses to gg.eu 7%, the dream is still alive Can't OMG lose their next 3 games and they'd be tied? OMG also has to lose to lemondogs. So 7% * 7%? TSM have tiebreaker chance if OMG loses to lemondogs or SKT loses to GG should TSM win upcoming game. OMG SKT1 WW - WL (0.93)(0.07) LW (0.07)(0.93) LL (0.07)(0.07) ((0.93)(0.07)+(0.93)(0.07)+(0.07)(0.07))/1 = 0.1351 So 13.51% chance?
So quadruple the chance that the Papa John's showmatch between EG vs. TeamLiquid will actually happen this year.
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On September 21 2013 14:59 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:58 Dan HH wrote:On September 21 2013 14:56 Fusilero wrote:
Btw I just woke up and see that faker has been playing a load of mid riven today, how did that go? His Riven was meh but it didn't matter, he could have played Sion if he wanted and they still would have won Jokes? he carried his team early game and dumpstered regi in the 2nd game. Only reason he did poorly in the first game was cause he facechecked and got firstblooded and wasted both summoners.
Regi dumpstered himself and Faker didn't carry, in fact he fooled around more than his teammates
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Australia18228 Posts
^ They can't tie with SKT, cause they'll both be 5-3 and SKT has H2H record.
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On September 21 2013 15:01 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 15:00 stuchiu wrote:On September 21 2013 14:59 Inflicted_ wrote:
GG.eu ignoring the handshake, so much arrogance Naniwa, please tell us about the culture of your people. gg.eu can't be naniwa they're not even good by foreigner standards
Also so far they actually seemed like happy human beings overall
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On September 21 2013 14:57 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:53 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:50 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:46 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:41 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:35 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:32 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:28 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:23 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:20 Volband wrote:
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That's not a fair question, because noone would've gotten them there with Regi. In which case you have no way of asserting your statement as fact or even backing it up. "Hurhur Reginald" is not a defense. I'm not keen on defending Wings, he barely got any competitive showings, there's no way I'd like to get into a serius Dyrus vs Wings arguement. That's why I want TSM to give some playtime for him. He has an interesting champion pool, he's really talented, and Dyrus is preeetty mediocore since... I don't know, a long time. He's not consistent at all. A "good form" Dyrus is probably better than any NA top laner, but will you wait months for it to reappear, or put him under pressure, switching him out in some games? (obviously not talking about world's or playoffs) Wings has previously said he doesn't want to be competitive. If he doesn't want to compete, he won't be anywhere close to tournament level. He wasn't tournament level when he stopped playing. He's the definition of a has-been. All right then, didn't know about that. My point still stands though, that TSM not only needs personal changes, but 1 or 2 extra guys, to maintain a feel of pressure. They'll always be stuck if they live in baylife. If they're going to change anything, it's mid and jungler though. TOO's mechanics limit his impact immensely. Whether or not you like it, Regi spending 2-3 hours a day on managerial work + worry about it seriously impacts not only his, but his teams practice ability. I don't know the free agent mid pool, but I think it'd be hard to find somebody that is as talented as an on form Regi + shotcalling ability. They need a new team captain anyway. We can argue whether Regi is shit or not, his shotcalling is nothing that could not be topped. Yes, everyone goes apeshit, when he flashes to initiate, and his team wins, but when he's farming bot, giving the enemy team a free baron, and such, then it makes you wonder. Also, communication issues are always blamed when it comes to TSM. Even at the last game, what the hell was that from Xpecial and Regi? They were o ntwo different pages. TSM needs someone they can respect, and has a much better understanding about the game, and who is much more easier to come to terms with. "I'm right, you're wrong" Reginald is not exactly the ideal leader - yes, he IS a leader, which is better than having 5 mute guys on your team, but his far from ideal. Don't judge a 1 week span by a 30 minute reality show. Even The Rain Man talked about the same thing after he left the team (there's a vid where he talks about Regi, quite sad). In the middle of S2. Yes, TRM is an asshole (I like him though), but that's not the point now. You mean the guy who wanted to play soloq all day instead of scrim? That's one of the few occasions where I'm okay with Regi being an asshole and shouting down somebody. What happens? TRM gets kicked, TSM picks up Dyrus and they switch to a scrim based regimen, and TSM doesn't lose a single NA Lan for the rest of the season.
He wasn't talking about just him and Regi, but Regi overall, and he's dumb approach to everything. But if you are convinced he's a smart player, I guess that have to be respected.
As for me, I respect what he achieved so far in his life, but I find him to be TSM's ultimate bane, and a guy, who's still around S1-S2, and just can't adapt. He's not a good strategist, he's not too smart game-wise, and he's only benefit to the team is that he has a very strong will, and everyone respects him, for better or worse.
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On September 21 2013 15:02 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 15:00 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:55 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:53 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:49 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:45 Lmui wrote:
Considering how much regi has on his plate, he's an impressive player but in order to truly compete at a worlds level he needs to leave the TSM management side to someone else, whether it be hiring someone to deal with day-to-day tasks and appointing Dan CEO or whatever, being allowed to practice 12 hours a day, get enough sleep and not having to stress about anything other than the game would probably move him to at least mancloud's level. So you really think it's lack of practice that he not only goes 1v1 vs a fed Jax, but he waits until his own tower dies? If you still do shit like that after 3 or so years of playing with LoL, then you have deeper issues than not practicing enough. Nobody on TSM could have stopped Jax solo. Whether or not he misplayed or channeled Faker, nothing would have gotten him out of that fight in any sort of a winning fashion. Mmm, not sure what you meant now, and how does it supposed to justify Regi's action. He had three choice: 1. Go back, let Jax take the tower. 2. Fight Jax under the tower. 3. Wait till Jax destroys the tower, THEN fight him. He chose 3. TSM was bleeding gold at that point. To let SKT get further ahead for free isn't an option. 2 or 3 is the same result regardless by the time Regi got there. It's like those games in soloq where the 1 guy engages while the enemy threatens to take your 2nd inhib and then people flame him for it. Why? Because it was the only option. It was checkmate once the game got to the point where they had enough pressure on the map to split push.
Agreed, but doing nothing doesn't accomplish anything either.
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On September 21 2013 15:02 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 15:01 Hesmyrr wrote:On September 21 2013 14:58 stuchiu wrote:On September 21 2013 14:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 14:51 wei2coolman wrote:On September 21 2013 14:51 oneofthem wrote:On September 21 2013 14:50 Cubu wrote:
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance? if t1 loses to gg.eu 7%, the dream is still alive Can't OMG lose their next 3 games and they'd be tied? OMG also has to lose to lemondogs. So 7% * 7%? TSM have tiebreaker chance if OMG loses to lemondogs or SKT loses to GG should TSM win upcoming game. OMG SKT1 WW - WL (0.93)(0.07) LW (0.07)(0.93) LL (0.07)(0.07) ((0.93)(0.07)+(0.93)(0.07)+(0.07)(0.07))/1 = 0.1351 So 13.51% chance? So quadruple the chance that the Papa John's showmatch between EG vs. TeamLiquid will actually happen this year.
They're waiting until TL gets a LoL team to do the showmatches 'kay
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 21 2013 15:06 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 15:02 stuchiu wrote:On September 21 2013 15:01 Hesmyrr wrote:On September 21 2013 14:58 stuchiu wrote:On September 21 2013 14:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 14:51 wei2coolman wrote:On September 21 2013 14:51 oneofthem wrote:On September 21 2013 14:50 Cubu wrote:
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance? if t1 loses to gg.eu 7%, the dream is still alive Can't OMG lose their next 3 games and they'd be tied? OMG also has to lose to lemondogs. So 7% * 7%? TSM have tiebreaker chance if OMG loses to lemondogs or SKT loses to GG should TSM win upcoming game. OMG SKT1 WW - WL (0.93)(0.07) LW (0.07)(0.93) LL (0.07)(0.07) ((0.93)(0.07)+(0.93)(0.07)+(0.07)(0.07))/1 = 0.1351 So 13.51% chance? So quadruple the chance that the Papa John's showmatch between EG vs. TeamLiquid will actually happen this year. They're waiting until TL gets a LoL team to do the showmatches 'kay
Liquid'BeastyQT incoming
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On September 21 2013 15:06 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 15:02 stuchiu wrote:On September 21 2013 15:01 Hesmyrr wrote:On September 21 2013 14:58 stuchiu wrote:On September 21 2013 14:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 14:51 wei2coolman wrote:On September 21 2013 14:51 oneofthem wrote:On September 21 2013 14:50 Cubu wrote:
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance? if t1 loses to gg.eu 7%, the dream is still alive Can't OMG lose their next 3 games and they'd be tied? OMG also has to lose to lemondogs. So 7% * 7%? TSM have tiebreaker chance if OMG loses to lemondogs or SKT loses to GG should TSM win upcoming game. OMG SKT1 WW - WL (0.93)(0.07) LW (0.07)(0.93) LL (0.07)(0.07) ((0.93)(0.07)+(0.93)(0.07)+(0.07)(0.07))/1 = 0.1351 So 13.51% chance? So quadruple the chance that the Papa John's showmatch between EG vs. TeamLiquid will actually happen this year. They're waiting until TL gets a LoL team to do the showmatches 'kay
Lmao, so the chance of it ever happening decreases further...
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On September 21 2013 15:00 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:55 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:53 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 14:49 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 14:45 Lmui wrote:
Considering how much regi has on his plate, he's an impressive player but in order to truly compete at a worlds level he needs to leave the TSM management side to someone else, whether it be hiring someone to deal with day-to-day tasks and appointing Dan CEO or whatever, being allowed to practice 12 hours a day, get enough sleep and not having to stress about anything other than the game would probably move him to at least mancloud's level. So you really think it's lack of practice that he not only goes 1v1 vs a fed Jax, but he waits until his own tower dies? If you still do shit like that after 3 or so years of playing with LoL, then you have deeper issues than not practicing enough. Nobody on TSM could have stopped Jax solo. Whether or not he misplayed or channeled Faker, nothing would have gotten him out of that fight in any sort of a winning fashion. Mmm, not sure what you meant now, and how does it supposed to justify Regi's action. He had three choice: 1. Go back, let Jax take the tower. 2. Fight Jax under the tower. 3. Wait till Jax destroys the tower, THEN fight him. He chose 3. TSM was bleeding gold at that point. To let SKT get further ahead for free isn't an option. 2 or 3 is the same result regardless by the time Regi got there. It's like those games in soloq where the 1 guy engages while the enemy threatens to take your 2nd inhib and then people flame him for it. Why? Because it was the only option.
Rewatch the Vod. Regi was there the whole time, but he wasn't sure what he wanted to do, danced around. When he made up his mind, the tower has been just destroyed.
Yes, if it was a random solo q player at a random solo q game, I probably wouldn't give shit to him, but he's supposed to be a professional pro gamer, one of the best midlaners in NA (whatever that means), and the team captain. You either go in (which is suicide, but still, might be "his only chance"), or not, there's no room for doing the third option. /he would've died with the tower standing as well, so it's especially disturbing/
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