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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 21 2013 06:20 GMT
#12241
On September 21 2013 15:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 15:18 Fusilero wrote:
On September 21 2013 15:18 JazzVortical wrote:
Bigpomelo out, Coma in. Very interesting move, I thought pomelo has been performing well.

There's virtually zero ways OMG goes out, good chance to give their sub some time to stretch his legs

pomelo dying 2 times against gaming gear was too shamefurrr.

GG.EU killed faker more than OMG pls
Glorious SEA doto
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 21 2013 06:20 GMT
#12242
On September 21 2013 15:17 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 15:03 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:57 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:53 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:50 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:46 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:41 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:35 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:32 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:28 Volband wrote:
[quote]
I'm not keen on defending Wings, he barely got any competitive showings, there's no way I'd like to get into a serius Dyrus vs Wings arguement. That's why I want TSM to give some playtime for him. He has an interesting champion pool, he's really talented, and Dyrus is preeetty mediocore since... I don't know, a long time. He's not consistent at all.

A "good form" Dyrus is probably better than any NA top laner, but will you wait months for it to reappear, or put him under pressure, switching him out in some games? (obviously not talking about world's or playoffs)

Wings has previously said he doesn't want to be competitive. If he doesn't want to compete, he won't be anywhere close to tournament level. He wasn't tournament level when he stopped playing. He's the definition of a has-been.

All right then, didn't know about that. My point still stands though, that TSM not only needs personal changes, but 1 or 2 extra guys, to maintain a feel of pressure. They'll always be stuck if they live in baylife.

If they're going to change anything, it's mid and jungler though. TOO's mechanics limit his impact immensely. Whether or not you like it, Regi spending 2-3 hours a day on managerial work + worry about it seriously impacts not only his, but his teams practice ability. I don't know the free agent mid pool, but I think it'd be hard to find somebody that is as talented as an on form Regi + shotcalling ability.

They need a new team captain anyway. We can argue whether Regi is shit or not, his shotcalling is nothing that could not be topped. Yes, everyone goes apeshit, when he flashes to initiate, and his team wins, but when he's farming bot, giving the enemy team a free baron, and such, then it makes you wonder. Also, communication issues are always blamed when it comes to TSM. Even at the last game, what the hell was that from Xpecial and Regi? They were o ntwo different pages.

TSM needs someone they can respect, and has a much better understanding about the game, and who is much more easier to come to terms with. "I'm right, you're wrong" Reginald is not exactly the ideal leader - yes, he IS a leader, which is better than having 5 mute guys on your team, but his far from ideal.

Don't judge a 1 week span by a 30 minute reality show.

Even The Rain Man talked about the same thing after he left the team (there's a vid where he talks about Regi, quite sad). In the middle of S2.

Yes, TRM is an asshole (I like him though), but that's not the point now.

You mean the guy who wanted to play soloq all day instead of scrim? That's one of the few occasions where I'm okay with Regi being an asshole and shouting down somebody. What happens? TRM gets kicked, TSM picks up Dyrus and they switch to a scrim based regimen, and TSM doesn't lose a single NA Lan for the rest of the season.

He wasn't talking about just him and Regi, but Regi overall, and he's dumb approach to everything. But if you are convinced he's a smart player, I guess that have to be respected.

As for me, I respect what he achieved so far in his life, but I find him to be TSM's ultimate bane, and a guy, who's still around S1-S2, and just can't adapt. He's not a good strategist, he's not too smart game-wise, and he's only benefit to the team is that he has a very strong will, and everyone respects him, for better or worse.

He can't adapt? It's taken til S3 for them to be knocked off of best NA team and they only fall to 2nd. Who are you going to bring in to play? It isn't a simple addition by subtraction situation. Whoever you put in there has to be, hands down, better than Regi.

The only viable option TSM has is for Regi to shed excess responsibilities such as managing and analyst/coaching. Dan is the perfect person to do this as long as he is willing and capable.

I'm willing to bet anything, that if he stays, TSM will be the same as they were in S3 and S2 - strong NA competitors, qualifying to worlds, losing to every decent international team. Maybe worse, but definetly not better.
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
September 21 2013 06:21 GMT
#12243
wutt why wud u pick ez into cait
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 21 2013 06:21 GMT
#12244
Aren't Lemondogs considered at least decent?
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
September 21 2013 06:21 GMT
#12245
MATHIES IS THAT YOU
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 21 2013 06:21 GMT
#12246
Syndaaaa and DA BEAR
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
September 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#12247
yesssss VOLI SYNDRAAA
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
September 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#12248
On September 21 2013 15:21 upperbound wrote:
MATHIES IS THAT YOU

Hey! How you doin'?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#12249
VOLIBEAR AND SYNDRA. OMG GOING FULL HAM.
liftlift > tsm
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#12250
OMG with the balls, wow! I rly like them now
FindMeInKenya
Profile Joined February 2011
United States797 Posts
September 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#12251
disrespect coming from OMG?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#12252
On September 21 2013 15:20 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 15:17 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 15:03 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:57 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:53 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:50 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:46 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:41 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:35 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:32 Gahlo wrote:
[quote]
Wings has previously said he doesn't want to be competitive. If he doesn't want to compete, he won't be anywhere close to tournament level. He wasn't tournament level when he stopped playing. He's the definition of a has-been.

All right then, didn't know about that. My point still stands though, that TSM not only needs personal changes, but 1 or 2 extra guys, to maintain a feel of pressure. They'll always be stuck if they live in baylife.

If they're going to change anything, it's mid and jungler though. TOO's mechanics limit his impact immensely. Whether or not you like it, Regi spending 2-3 hours a day on managerial work + worry about it seriously impacts not only his, but his teams practice ability. I don't know the free agent mid pool, but I think it'd be hard to find somebody that is as talented as an on form Regi + shotcalling ability.

They need a new team captain anyway. We can argue whether Regi is shit or not, his shotcalling is nothing that could not be topped. Yes, everyone goes apeshit, when he flashes to initiate, and his team wins, but when he's farming bot, giving the enemy team a free baron, and such, then it makes you wonder. Also, communication issues are always blamed when it comes to TSM. Even at the last game, what the hell was that from Xpecial and Regi? They were o ntwo different pages.

TSM needs someone they can respect, and has a much better understanding about the game, and who is much more easier to come to terms with. "I'm right, you're wrong" Reginald is not exactly the ideal leader - yes, he IS a leader, which is better than having 5 mute guys on your team, but his far from ideal.

Don't judge a 1 week span by a 30 minute reality show.

Even The Rain Man talked about the same thing after he left the team (there's a vid where he talks about Regi, quite sad). In the middle of S2.

Yes, TRM is an asshole (I like him though), but that's not the point now.

You mean the guy who wanted to play soloq all day instead of scrim? That's one of the few occasions where I'm okay with Regi being an asshole and shouting down somebody. What happens? TRM gets kicked, TSM picks up Dyrus and they switch to a scrim based regimen, and TSM doesn't lose a single NA Lan for the rest of the season.

He wasn't talking about just him and Regi, but Regi overall, and he's dumb approach to everything. But if you are convinced he's a smart player, I guess that have to be respected.

As for me, I respect what he achieved so far in his life, but I find him to be TSM's ultimate bane, and a guy, who's still around S1-S2, and just can't adapt. He's not a good strategist, he's not too smart game-wise, and he's only benefit to the team is that he has a very strong will, and everyone respects him, for better or worse.

He can't adapt? It's taken til S3 for them to be knocked off of best NA team and they only fall to 2nd. Who are you going to bring in to play? It isn't a simple addition by subtraction situation. Whoever you put in there has to be, hands down, better than Regi.

The only viable option TSM has is for Regi to shed excess responsibilities such as managing and analyst/coaching. Dan is the perfect person to do this as long as he is willing and capable.

I'm willing to bet anything, that if he stays, TSM will be the same as they were in S3 and S2 - strong NA competitors, qualifying to worlds, losing to every decent international team. Maybe worse, but definetly not better.

How are they going to improve if he goes? Who is capable of picking up his slack AND improving the team? You can't give me an answer without saying Hai or Mancloud.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
September 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#12253
The SYNDRA/VOLI power
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#12254
One side likes the picks, one side thinks its kind of BM
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#12255
Volibear is lovelin's tower diving HAM jungling dream
Glorious SEA doto
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#12256
Syndra, Volibear, AND Vladimir in one game? GG

OMG vs TSM

Bans:
Elise                                Zed
Corki                                Renekton
Vi                                Thresh

Picks:
Shen                                Ahri / Sona
Caitlyn / Fiddlesticks                                Jarvan IV / Ezreal
Syndra / Volibear                                Vladimir
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#12257
Mathies making us look like fools, he was playing for OMG this entire time.
liftlift > tsm
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#12258
OH FUCK YEAH SYNDRA!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 21 2013 06:23 GMT
#12259
So.... how many times is dyrus going to get dived by cait/fiddle/bear?
Glorious SEA doto
NatusPrinceps
Profile Joined August 2013
192 Posts
September 21 2013 06:23 GMT
#12260
OMG


literally
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