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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 21 2013 05:52 GMT
#12181
On September 21 2013 14:51 Katsuge wrote:
zed 0-3 yolo

GG.EU - Preventing zed and corki nerfs since 2013

Also I approve of zorozero's sunfire/triforce man mode shen build
Glorious SEA doto
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 21 2013 05:52 GMT
#12182
I find it a bit sad how close this game was for as long as it was. Kinda like that first Vul/Mineski game.
In Inca we trust
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 21 2013 05:53 GMT
#12183
On September 21 2013 14:49 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:45 Lmui wrote:
Considering how much regi has on his plate, he's an impressive player but in order to truly compete at a worlds level he needs to leave the TSM management side to someone else, whether it be hiring someone to deal with day-to-day tasks and appointing Dan CEO or whatever, being allowed to practice 12 hours a day, get enough sleep and not having to stress about anything other than the game would probably move him to at least mancloud's level.

So you really think it's lack of practice that he not only goes 1v1 vs a fed Jax, but he waits until his own tower dies? If you still do shit like that after 3 or so years of playing with LoL, then you have deeper issues than not practicing enough.

Nobody on TSM could have stopped Jax solo. Whether or not he misplayed or channeled Faker, nothing would have gotten him out of that fight in any sort of a winning fashion.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 21 2013 05:53 GMT
#12184
On September 21 2013 14:50 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:46 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:41 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:35 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:32 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:28 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:23 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:20 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:19 templar rage wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:13 Volband wrote:
[quote]
See your team in the quarters then.

Oh, wait. Sorry.


Because Wings would have gotten them there, right?

That's not a fair question, because noone would've gotten them there with Regi.

In which case you have no way of asserting your statement as fact or even backing it up.

"Hurhur Reginald" is not a defense.

I'm not keen on defending Wings, he barely got any competitive showings, there's no way I'd like to get into a serius Dyrus vs Wings arguement. That's why I want TSM to give some playtime for him. He has an interesting champion pool, he's really talented, and Dyrus is preeetty mediocore since... I don't know, a long time. He's not consistent at all.

A "good form" Dyrus is probably better than any NA top laner, but will you wait months for it to reappear, or put him under pressure, switching him out in some games? (obviously not talking about world's or playoffs)

Wings has previously said he doesn't want to be competitive. If he doesn't want to compete, he won't be anywhere close to tournament level. He wasn't tournament level when he stopped playing. He's the definition of a has-been.

All right then, didn't know about that. My point still stands though, that TSM not only needs personal changes, but 1 or 2 extra guys, to maintain a feel of pressure. They'll always be stuck if they live in baylife.

If they're going to change anything, it's mid and jungler though. TOO's mechanics limit his impact immensely. Whether or not you like it, Regi spending 2-3 hours a day on managerial work + worry about it seriously impacts not only his, but his teams practice ability. I don't know the free agent mid pool, but I think it'd be hard to find somebody that is as talented as an on form Regi + shotcalling ability.

They need a new team captain anyway. We can argue whether Regi is shit or not, his shotcalling is nothing that could not be topped. Yes, everyone goes apeshit, when he flashes to initiate, and his team wins, but when he's farming bot, giving the enemy team a free baron, and such, then it makes you wonder. Also, communication issues are always blamed when it comes to TSM. Even at the last game, what the hell was that from Xpecial and Regi? They were o ntwo different pages.

TSM needs someone they can respect, and has a much better understanding about the game, and who is much more easier to come to terms with. "I'm right, you're wrong" Reginald is not exactly the ideal leader - yes, he IS a leader, which is better than having 5 mute guys on your team, but his far from ideal.

Don't judge a 1 week span by a 30 minute reality show.

Even The Rain Man talked about the same thing after he left the team (there's a vid where he talks about Regi, quite sad). In the middle of S2.

Yes, TRM is an asshole (I like him though), but that's not the point now.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 21 2013 05:53 GMT
#12185
I guess Zed and Ahri aren't THAT overpowered....
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 21 2013 05:54 GMT
#12186
On September 21 2013 14:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:51 oneofthem wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:50 Cubu wrote:
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance?

if t1 loses to gg.eu

7%, the dream is still alive

Can't OMG lose their next 3 games and they'd be tied?
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 21 2013 05:55 GMT
#12187
On September 21 2013 14:53 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:49 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:45 Lmui wrote:
Considering how much regi has on his plate, he's an impressive player but in order to truly compete at a worlds level he needs to leave the TSM management side to someone else, whether it be hiring someone to deal with day-to-day tasks and appointing Dan CEO or whatever, being allowed to practice 12 hours a day, get enough sleep and not having to stress about anything other than the game would probably move him to at least mancloud's level.

So you really think it's lack of practice that he not only goes 1v1 vs a fed Jax, but he waits until his own tower dies? If you still do shit like that after 3 or so years of playing with LoL, then you have deeper issues than not practicing enough.

Nobody on TSM could have stopped Jax solo. Whether or not he misplayed or channeled Faker, nothing would have gotten him out of that fight in any sort of a winning fashion.

Mmm, not sure what you meant now, and how does it supposed to justify Regi's action. He had three choice:
1. Go back, let Jax take the tower.
2. Fight Jax under the tower.
3. Wait till Jax destroys the tower, THEN fight him.

He chose 3.
SimulatedAnneal
Profile Joined March 2012
765 Posts
September 21 2013 05:55 GMT
#12188
On September 21 2013 14:50 Cubu wrote:
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance?


If TSM wins all of their games and OMG loses all of their games they play a tiebreaker game.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
September 21 2013 05:55 GMT
#12189
lmfao... mazzerin just baited nbs so hard. misses his charm, doesn't go over the wall to help him
Writer:o
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 21 2013 05:56 GMT
#12190
On September 21 2013 14:55 Kiett wrote:
lmfao... mazzerin just baited nbs so hard. misses his charm, doesn't go over the wall to help him

"he doesn't worth money anyway"
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 21 2013 05:56 GMT
#12191
Btw I just woke up and see that faker has been playing a load of mid riven today, how did that go?
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 05:57:18
September 21 2013 05:57 GMT
#12192
On September 21 2013 14:53 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:50 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:46 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:41 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:35 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:32 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:28 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:23 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:20 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:19 templar rage wrote:
[quote]

Because Wings would have gotten them there, right?

That's not a fair question, because noone would've gotten them there with Regi.

In which case you have no way of asserting your statement as fact or even backing it up.

"Hurhur Reginald" is not a defense.

I'm not keen on defending Wings, he barely got any competitive showings, there's no way I'd like to get into a serius Dyrus vs Wings arguement. That's why I want TSM to give some playtime for him. He has an interesting champion pool, he's really talented, and Dyrus is preeetty mediocore since... I don't know, a long time. He's not consistent at all.

A "good form" Dyrus is probably better than any NA top laner, but will you wait months for it to reappear, or put him under pressure, switching him out in some games? (obviously not talking about world's or playoffs)

Wings has previously said he doesn't want to be competitive. If he doesn't want to compete, he won't be anywhere close to tournament level. He wasn't tournament level when he stopped playing. He's the definition of a has-been.

All right then, didn't know about that. My point still stands though, that TSM not only needs personal changes, but 1 or 2 extra guys, to maintain a feel of pressure. They'll always be stuck if they live in baylife.

If they're going to change anything, it's mid and jungler though. TOO's mechanics limit his impact immensely. Whether or not you like it, Regi spending 2-3 hours a day on managerial work + worry about it seriously impacts not only his, but his teams practice ability. I don't know the free agent mid pool, but I think it'd be hard to find somebody that is as talented as an on form Regi + shotcalling ability.

They need a new team captain anyway. We can argue whether Regi is shit or not, his shotcalling is nothing that could not be topped. Yes, everyone goes apeshit, when he flashes to initiate, and his team wins, but when he's farming bot, giving the enemy team a free baron, and such, then it makes you wonder. Also, communication issues are always blamed when it comes to TSM. Even at the last game, what the hell was that from Xpecial and Regi? They were o ntwo different pages.

TSM needs someone they can respect, and has a much better understanding about the game, and who is much more easier to come to terms with. "I'm right, you're wrong" Reginald is not exactly the ideal leader - yes, he IS a leader, which is better than having 5 mute guys on your team, but his far from ideal.

Don't judge a 1 week span by a 30 minute reality show.

Even The Rain Man talked about the same thing after he left the team (there's a vid where he talks about Regi, quite sad). In the middle of S2.

Yes, TRM is an asshole (I like him though), but that's not the point now.

You mean the guy who wanted to play soloq all day instead of scrim? That's one of the few occasions where I'm okay with Regi being an asshole and shouting down somebody. What happens? TRM gets kicked, TSM picks up Dyrus and they switch to a scrim based regimen, and TSM doesn't lose a single NA Lan for the rest of the season.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 05:57:38
September 21 2013 05:57 GMT
#12193
On September 21 2013 14:55 Kiett wrote:
lmfao... mazzerin just baited nbs so hard. misses his charm, doesn't go over the wall to help him

he missed the charm going over the wall would be suicide :D kkk
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 21 2013 05:57 GMT
#12194
On September 21 2013 14:56 Fusilero wrote:
Btw I just woke up and see that faker has been playing a load of mid riven today, how did that go?

I wasn't overly impressed. Wasn't a raging success but didn't fail either.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 21 2013 05:57 GMT
#12195
On September 21 2013 14:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:51 oneofthem wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:50 Cubu wrote:
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance?

if t1 loses to gg.eu

7%, the dream is still alive

Can't OMG lose their next 3 games and they'd be tied?

o yea, i think t1 has tiebreaker over them if it is h2h results.

so basically, there is a chance
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 21 2013 05:57 GMT
#12196
Poll: Recommend GGeu vs Lemondogs?

No (12)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend GGeu vs Lemondogs?

(Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time

stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 21 2013 05:58 GMT
#12197
On September 21 2013 14:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:51 oneofthem wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:50 Cubu wrote:
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance?

if t1 loses to gg.eu

7%, the dream is still alive

Can't OMG lose their next 3 games and they'd be tied?


OMG also has to lose to lemondogs. So 7% * 7%?
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9246 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 05:58:49
September 21 2013 05:58 GMT
#12198
On September 21 2013 14:56 Fusilero wrote:
Btw I just woke up and see that faker has been playing a load of mid riven today, how did that go?

His Riven was meh but it didn't matter, he could have played Sion if he wanted and they still would have won
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 21 2013 05:58 GMT
#12199
On September 21 2013 14:58 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:51 oneofthem wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:50 Cubu wrote:
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance?

if t1 loses to gg.eu

7%, the dream is still alive

Can't OMG lose their next 3 games and they'd be tied?


OMG also has to lose to lemondogs. So 7% * 7%?

OMG losing to lemondogs.. hmm.. I think I'll put my odds on regi playing riven next game.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 21 2013 05:59 GMT
#12200
On September 21 2013 14:58 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:56 Fusilero wrote:
Btw I just woke up and see that faker has been playing a load of mid riven today, how did that go?

His Riven was meh but it didn't matter, he could have played Sion if he wanted and they still would have won

Jokes? he carried his team early game and dumpstered regi in the 2nd game. Only reason he did poorly in the first game was cause he facechecked and got firstblooded and wasted both summoners.
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