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Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 21 2013 05:42 GMT
#12161
On September 21 2013 14:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:35 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:32 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:28 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:23 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:20 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:19 templar rage wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:13 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:11 Headshot wrote:
Whoever said WoD > Dyrus is a fucking moron. :D

See your team in the quarters then.

Oh, wait. Sorry.


Because Wings would have gotten them there, right?

That's not a fair question, because noone would've gotten them there with Regi.

In which case you have no way of asserting your statement as fact or even backing it up.

"Hurhur Reginald" is not a defense.

I'm not keen on defending Wings, he barely got any competitive showings, there's no way I'd like to get into a serius Dyrus vs Wings arguement. That's why I want TSM to give some playtime for him. He has an interesting champion pool, he's really talented, and Dyrus is preeetty mediocore since... I don't know, a long time. He's not consistent at all.

A "good form" Dyrus is probably better than any NA top laner, but will you wait months for it to reappear, or put him under pressure, switching him out in some games? (obviously not talking about world's or playoffs)

Wings has previously said he doesn't want to be competitive. If he doesn't want to compete, he won't be anywhere close to tournament level. He wasn't tournament level when he stopped playing. He's the definition of a has-been.

All right then, didn't know about that. My point still stands though, that TSM not only needs personal changes, but 1 or 2 extra guys, to maintain a feel of pressure. They'll always be stuck if they live in baylife.

NA mids are so overrated it's pretty ridiculous. Regi is not that much weaker than mancloud and no one else in NA is really strong either. Regi consistently outplays link.

That's why I'm quite certain you could find some solo que mid players, who have the potential to be top tier midlaners, at least in NA standard.

Anyway, TSM needs new blood in their system. They are like an old, broken track right now. Same issues, same mistakes, same promises, (kinda) same results. If you feel Regi should stay, fine - fine as it's your opinion, I highly disagree -, but then replace other players.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 21 2013 05:43 GMT
#12162
On September 21 2013 14:42 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:35 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:32 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:28 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:23 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:20 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:19 templar rage wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:13 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:11 Headshot wrote:
Whoever said WoD > Dyrus is a fucking moron. :D

See your team in the quarters then.

Oh, wait. Sorry.


Because Wings would have gotten them there, right?

That's not a fair question, because noone would've gotten them there with Regi.

In which case you have no way of asserting your statement as fact or even backing it up.

"Hurhur Reginald" is not a defense.

I'm not keen on defending Wings, he barely got any competitive showings, there's no way I'd like to get into a serius Dyrus vs Wings arguement. That's why I want TSM to give some playtime for him. He has an interesting champion pool, he's really talented, and Dyrus is preeetty mediocore since... I don't know, a long time. He's not consistent at all.

A "good form" Dyrus is probably better than any NA top laner, but will you wait months for it to reappear, or put him under pressure, switching him out in some games? (obviously not talking about world's or playoffs)

Wings has previously said he doesn't want to be competitive. If he doesn't want to compete, he won't be anywhere close to tournament level. He wasn't tournament level when he stopped playing. He's the definition of a has-been.

All right then, didn't know about that. My point still stands though, that TSM not only needs personal changes, but 1 or 2 extra guys, to maintain a feel of pressure. They'll always be stuck if they live in baylife.

NA mids are so overrated it's pretty ridiculous. Regi is not that much weaker than mancloud and no one else in NA is really strong either. Regi consistently outplays link.

That's why I'm quite certain you could find some solo que mid players, who have the potential to be top tier midlaners, at least in NA standard.

Anyway, TSM needs new blood in their system. They are like an old, broken track right now. Same issues, same mistakes, same promises, (kinda) same results. If you feel Regi should stay, fine - fine as it's your opinion, I highly disagree -, but then replace other players.

Only mid in NA prolly at that level is maybe bischu on nidalee. Rarely do I see any mids in pro-streams that I would say are "zomg, why is this guy not in lcs?" NA mids just sorta blow tbh.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 21 2013 05:45 GMT
#12163
On September 21 2013 14:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:42 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:35 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:32 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:28 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:23 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:20 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:19 templar rage wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:13 Volband wrote:
[quote]
See your team in the quarters then.

Oh, wait. Sorry.


Because Wings would have gotten them there, right?

That's not a fair question, because noone would've gotten them there with Regi.

In which case you have no way of asserting your statement as fact or even backing it up.

"Hurhur Reginald" is not a defense.

I'm not keen on defending Wings, he barely got any competitive showings, there's no way I'd like to get into a serius Dyrus vs Wings arguement. That's why I want TSM to give some playtime for him. He has an interesting champion pool, he's really talented, and Dyrus is preeetty mediocore since... I don't know, a long time. He's not consistent at all.

A "good form" Dyrus is probably better than any NA top laner, but will you wait months for it to reappear, or put him under pressure, switching him out in some games? (obviously not talking about world's or playoffs)

Wings has previously said he doesn't want to be competitive. If he doesn't want to compete, he won't be anywhere close to tournament level. He wasn't tournament level when he stopped playing. He's the definition of a has-been.

All right then, didn't know about that. My point still stands though, that TSM not only needs personal changes, but 1 or 2 extra guys, to maintain a feel of pressure. They'll always be stuck if they live in baylife.

NA mids are so overrated it's pretty ridiculous. Regi is not that much weaker than mancloud and no one else in NA is really strong either. Regi consistently outplays link.

That's why I'm quite certain you could find some solo que mid players, who have the potential to be top tier midlaners, at least in NA standard.

Anyway, TSM needs new blood in their system. They are like an old, broken track right now. Same issues, same mistakes, same promises, (kinda) same results. If you feel Regi should stay, fine - fine as it's your opinion, I highly disagree -, but then replace other players.

Only mid in NA prolly at that level is maybe bischu on nidalee. Rarely do I see any mids in pro-streams that I would say are "zomg, why is this guy not in lcs?" NA mids just sorta blow tbh.

Agreed. I think it goes Mancloud > Hai > Regi, and then everybody else.

Last I heard Chu was back in Korea.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
September 21 2013 05:45 GMT
#12164
Considering how much regi has on his plate, he's an impressive player but in order to truly compete at a worlds level he needs to leave the TSM management side to someone else, whether it be hiring someone to deal with day-to-day tasks and appointing Dan CEO or whatever, being allowed to practice 12 hours a day, get enough sleep and not having to stress about anything other than the game would probably move him to at least mancloud's level.
niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
September 21 2013 05:45 GMT
#12165
this game is boring.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9213 Posts
September 21 2013 05:46 GMT
#12166
Why did Zoro interrupt his ult only to walk there anyway. Am I missing something here?
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 21 2013 05:46 GMT
#12167
On September 21 2013 14:41 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:35 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:32 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:28 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:23 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:20 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:19 templar rage wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:13 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:11 Headshot wrote:
Whoever said WoD > Dyrus is a fucking moron. :D

See your team in the quarters then.

Oh, wait. Sorry.


Because Wings would have gotten them there, right?

That's not a fair question, because noone would've gotten them there with Regi.

In which case you have no way of asserting your statement as fact or even backing it up.

"Hurhur Reginald" is not a defense.

I'm not keen on defending Wings, he barely got any competitive showings, there's no way I'd like to get into a serius Dyrus vs Wings arguement. That's why I want TSM to give some playtime for him. He has an interesting champion pool, he's really talented, and Dyrus is preeetty mediocore since... I don't know, a long time. He's not consistent at all.

A "good form" Dyrus is probably better than any NA top laner, but will you wait months for it to reappear, or put him under pressure, switching him out in some games? (obviously not talking about world's or playoffs)

Wings has previously said he doesn't want to be competitive. If he doesn't want to compete, he won't be anywhere close to tournament level. He wasn't tournament level when he stopped playing. He's the definition of a has-been.

All right then, didn't know about that. My point still stands though, that TSM not only needs personal changes, but 1 or 2 extra guys, to maintain a feel of pressure. They'll always be stuck if they live in baylife.

If they're going to change anything, it's mid and jungler though. TOO's mechanics limit his impact immensely. Whether or not you like it, Regi spending 2-3 hours a day on managerial work + worry about it seriously impacts not only his, but his teams practice ability. I don't know the free agent mid pool, but I think it'd be hard to find somebody that is as talented as an on form Regi + shotcalling ability.

They need a new team captain anyway. We can argue whether Regi is shit or not, his shotcalling is nothing that could not be topped. Yes, everyone goes apeshit, when he flashes to initiate, and his team wins, but when he's farming bot, giving the enemy team a free baron, and such, then it makes you wonder. Also, communication issues are always blamed when it comes to TSM. Even at the last game, what the hell was that from Xpecial and Regi? They were o ntwo different pages.

TSM needs someone they can respect, and has a much better understanding about the game, and who is much more easier to come to terms with. "I'm right, you're wrong" Reginald is not exactly the ideal leader - yes, he IS a leader, which is better than having 5 mute guys on your team, but his far from ideal.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 21 2013 05:46 GMT
#12168
On September 21 2013 14:45 niukasu1990 wrote:
this game is boring.

this game is sad. lemondogs should lose their lcs spot if they lose this.
liftlift > tsm
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
September 21 2013 05:46 GMT
#12169
On September 21 2013 14:18 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:17 HeavenS wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:04 .maLice. wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:02 Numy wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:01 .maLice. wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:00 Chexx wrote:
still believe that the requiem double kill in bot was pure luck and the siegeing t3 tower while t2 is still up was being fooling around.


That's because you're biased as fuck.


Lol ok unbiased man did Dyrus plan to die as SKT engaged bottom while Sona fails?


Not at all. That's simply what you would generally do as a dead Karthus.. Your question doesnt even make sense. Who the fuck plans on dying?

... you realize Dyrus was oom on Karthus?


thank you. people are ignoring the fact that on that important engage in mid when tsm was backing off and the casters kept saying tsm was unsure was because dyrus was OOM!! they couldnt win that engage and ended up losing it thats when the game turned more heavily to sk. also, turtle got to that fight so fucking late, at that point in the game had be been there it might have gone to tsm. also, in mid lane when jax was pushing bot second outer tower tsm had 5 players mid and sk had 4, jax was bot. they should have just forced baron!! instead they pussied out, went bot to clear and sk got baron. ughhhhhhhh i was screaming at my monitor GET BARONNNNN

You might not know this but after Karthus dies he uses no mana. If Dyrus suicided they could have won that fight.

At least would have done better, Requ would have gotten at least one kill in itself IIRC


are you joking? just because karthus can use his skills when he's dead doesn't meant he should suicide. if karthus had suicided earlier they would have just deleted his ass and fought around his aoe. Being alive, dyrus had the opportunity to at least prolong his death and position himself while still using the little amount of mana he had left and then die when he has no other choice. They should have been more aware of karthus mana before that engage and turtle shouldve been with the team, other than that i think they did the best they could in that situation. and yes i obviously knew that about karthus already
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 21 2013 05:49 GMT
#12170
On September 21 2013 14:46 HeavenS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:18 Shikyo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:17 HeavenS wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:04 .maLice. wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:02 Numy wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:01 .maLice. wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:00 Chexx wrote:
still believe that the requiem double kill in bot was pure luck and the siegeing t3 tower while t2 is still up was being fooling around.


That's because you're biased as fuck.


Lol ok unbiased man did Dyrus plan to die as SKT engaged bottom while Sona fails?


Not at all. That's simply what you would generally do as a dead Karthus.. Your question doesnt even make sense. Who the fuck plans on dying?

... you realize Dyrus was oom on Karthus?


thank you. people are ignoring the fact that on that important engage in mid when tsm was backing off and the casters kept saying tsm was unsure was because dyrus was OOM!! they couldnt win that engage and ended up losing it thats when the game turned more heavily to sk. also, turtle got to that fight so fucking late, at that point in the game had be been there it might have gone to tsm. also, in mid lane when jax was pushing bot second outer tower tsm had 5 players mid and sk had 4, jax was bot. they should have just forced baron!! instead they pussied out, went bot to clear and sk got baron. ughhhhhhhh i was screaming at my monitor GET BARONNNNN

You might not know this but after Karthus dies he uses no mana. If Dyrus suicided they could have won that fight.

At least would have done better, Requ would have gotten at least one kill in itself IIRC


are you joking? just because karthus can use his skills when he's dead doesn't meant he should suicide. if karthus had suicided earlier they would have just deleted his ass and fought around his aoe. Being alive, dyrus had the opportunity to at least prolong his death and position himself while still using the little amount of mana he had left and then die when he has no other choice. They should have been more aware of karthus mana before that engage and turtle shouldve been with the team, other than that i think they did the best they could in that situation. and yes i obviously knew that about karthus already

Uhh, not really when you have 3 melee champions who need to get to twitch.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 21 2013 05:49 GMT
#12171
On September 21 2013 14:45 Lmui wrote:
Considering how much regi has on his plate, he's an impressive player but in order to truly compete at a worlds level he needs to leave the TSM management side to someone else, whether it be hiring someone to deal with day-to-day tasks and appointing Dan CEO or whatever, being allowed to practice 12 hours a day, get enough sleep and not having to stress about anything other than the game would probably move him to at least mancloud's level.

So you really think it's lack of practice that he not only goes 1v1 vs a fed Jax, but he waits until his own tower dies? If you still do shit like that after 3 or so years of playing with LoL, then you have deeper issues than not practicing enough.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 21 2013 05:49 GMT
#12172
On September 21 2013 14:46 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:41 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:35 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:32 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:28 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:23 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:20 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:19 templar rage wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:13 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:11 Headshot wrote:
Whoever said WoD > Dyrus is a fucking moron. :D

See your team in the quarters then.

Oh, wait. Sorry.


Because Wings would have gotten them there, right?

That's not a fair question, because noone would've gotten them there with Regi.

In which case you have no way of asserting your statement as fact or even backing it up.

"Hurhur Reginald" is not a defense.

I'm not keen on defending Wings, he barely got any competitive showings, there's no way I'd like to get into a serius Dyrus vs Wings arguement. That's why I want TSM to give some playtime for him. He has an interesting champion pool, he's really talented, and Dyrus is preeetty mediocore since... I don't know, a long time. He's not consistent at all.

A "good form" Dyrus is probably better than any NA top laner, but will you wait months for it to reappear, or put him under pressure, switching him out in some games? (obviously not talking about world's or playoffs)

Wings has previously said he doesn't want to be competitive. If he doesn't want to compete, he won't be anywhere close to tournament level. He wasn't tournament level when he stopped playing. He's the definition of a has-been.

All right then, didn't know about that. My point still stands though, that TSM not only needs personal changes, but 1 or 2 extra guys, to maintain a feel of pressure. They'll always be stuck if they live in baylife.

If they're going to change anything, it's mid and jungler though. TOO's mechanics limit his impact immensely. Whether or not you like it, Regi spending 2-3 hours a day on managerial work + worry about it seriously impacts not only his, but his teams practice ability. I don't know the free agent mid pool, but I think it'd be hard to find somebody that is as talented as an on form Regi + shotcalling ability.

They need a new team captain anyway. We can argue whether Regi is shit or not, his shotcalling is nothing that could not be topped. Yes, everyone goes apeshit, when he flashes to initiate, and his team wins, but when he's farming bot, giving the enemy team a free baron, and such, then it makes you wonder. Also, communication issues are always blamed when it comes to TSM. Even at the last game, what the hell was that from Xpecial and Regi? They were o ntwo different pages.

TSM needs someone they can respect, and has a much better understanding about the game, and who is much more easier to come to terms with. "I'm right, you're wrong" Reginald is not exactly the ideal leader - yes, he IS a leader, which is better than having 5 mute guys on your team, but his far from ideal.

The real question is who? I mean we can talk about how shit regi is compared to the rest of the world, but no one in NA is going to be replacing him. Even if you want to shift out leadership position out of mid, what other role player that is better than Dyrus/TOO/WT/Xpecial, and can leadership? so they can have a dummy but strong midlane?
liftlift > tsm
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
September 21 2013 05:50 GMT
#12173
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 21 2013 05:50 GMT
#12174
On September 21 2013 14:46 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:41 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:35 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:32 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:28 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:23 Gahlo wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:20 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:19 templar rage wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:13 Volband wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:11 Headshot wrote:
Whoever said WoD > Dyrus is a fucking moron. :D

See your team in the quarters then.

Oh, wait. Sorry.


Because Wings would have gotten them there, right?

That's not a fair question, because noone would've gotten them there with Regi.

In which case you have no way of asserting your statement as fact or even backing it up.

"Hurhur Reginald" is not a defense.

I'm not keen on defending Wings, he barely got any competitive showings, there's no way I'd like to get into a serius Dyrus vs Wings arguement. That's why I want TSM to give some playtime for him. He has an interesting champion pool, he's really talented, and Dyrus is preeetty mediocore since... I don't know, a long time. He's not consistent at all.

A "good form" Dyrus is probably better than any NA top laner, but will you wait months for it to reappear, or put him under pressure, switching him out in some games? (obviously not talking about world's or playoffs)

Wings has previously said he doesn't want to be competitive. If he doesn't want to compete, he won't be anywhere close to tournament level. He wasn't tournament level when he stopped playing. He's the definition of a has-been.

All right then, didn't know about that. My point still stands though, that TSM not only needs personal changes, but 1 or 2 extra guys, to maintain a feel of pressure. They'll always be stuck if they live in baylife.

If they're going to change anything, it's mid and jungler though. TOO's mechanics limit his impact immensely. Whether or not you like it, Regi spending 2-3 hours a day on managerial work + worry about it seriously impacts not only his, but his teams practice ability. I don't know the free agent mid pool, but I think it'd be hard to find somebody that is as talented as an on form Regi + shotcalling ability.

They need a new team captain anyway. We can argue whether Regi is shit or not, his shotcalling is nothing that could not be topped. Yes, everyone goes apeshit, when he flashes to initiate, and his team wins, but when he's farming bot, giving the enemy team a free baron, and such, then it makes you wonder. Also, communication issues are always blamed when it comes to TSM. Even at the last game, what the hell was that from Xpecial and Regi? They were o ntwo different pages.

TSM needs someone they can respect, and has a much better understanding about the game, and who is much more easier to come to terms with. "I'm right, you're wrong" Reginald is not exactly the ideal leader - yes, he IS a leader, which is better than having 5 mute guys on your team, but his far from ideal.

Don't judge a 1 week span by a 30 minute reality show.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 21 2013 05:50 GMT
#12175
GG Dream dies
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 05:51:22
September 21 2013 05:51 GMT
#12176
On September 21 2013 14:50 Cubu wrote:
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance?

if t1 loses to gg.eu and omg. but not sure if that would result in a tiebreaker
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
September 21 2013 05:51 GMT
#12177
On September 21 2013 14:50 Cubu wrote:
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance?

You're still asking this question even while watching this GG vs LD going on?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 21 2013 05:51 GMT
#12178
On September 21 2013 14:51 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:50 Cubu wrote:
so is it still possible for tsm to have a chance?

if t1 loses to gg.eu

7%, the dream is still alive
liftlift > tsm
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
September 21 2013 05:51 GMT
#12179
zed 0-3 yolo
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UmberBane
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September 21 2013 05:52 GMT
#12180
Yay I can watch some Worlds live today! Saturday rules.

However this is probably the match I am the least interested in. Well at least I saw that Piglet picked up Corki, which is great.
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