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Again, I think whoever's been coaching Ozone for worlds should be fired immediately after the tournament.
They benched Homme only to have Looper play Shen and Zac, which Homme is fine on. On top of that he's the team leader and shotcaller. Now they have a yoloqueue god playing the exact same champs.
They appeared woefully underprepared for these games. The fact Dade was reduced to playing Ryze in two games showed no preparation during the new patch, and no respect for his opponents. They had no idea Corki was any good this patch, and Imp tried to pick it up only after seeing Genja use it. They had Dade play Gragas despite apparently having no games on that champ.
Between the weird roster changes and the apparent inability to get the team ready for the biggest tournament of the year the coach failed miserably. Yes, responsibility does fall to the players to prepare, respect their opponents, and work together, but when those things aren't happening it's on the coach to get their rears in gear and he didn't. Not to mention benching Homme, which still makes no sense at all. They'll probably need to make roster changes now since Dade's going to be a shattered man after this tourney is over.
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On September 20 2013 15:18 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2013 15:14 Cubu wrote:On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote:On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote:
now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win. Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up they have no incentive because the next round matchups are gonna be random, so no difference between 1st and 2nd in group stage. Why should they bother? Fnatic destroys Gambit every single game because Gambit has a complete mental block when playing them. 7 games in a row, and each one looks worse and worse for Gambit. Why would Fnatic give that up? If they let Gambit get a win back on them, maybe Gambit will actually have hope and start winning games against them. Gotta kick them when they're down and keep them there.
Maybe because they feel that Ozone poses a more significant threat to them than Gambit. Strategically it would behoove them to throw.
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Also, why does doublelift keep saying people should pick graves against corki? Even though graves has the advantage in lane I don't think it's significant enough to impact the game too much and graves in team fights is not as strong as corki right now. If put up against graves corki just passively farms.
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On September 20 2013 15:17 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2013 15:13 Volband wrote:On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote:On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote:
now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win. Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up Don't know about that, but it's like 99% sure that if Gambit wants the 2nd spot, they can get it. If they pick some brainless teamcomp like today's game 1, Fnatic might punish them, but if they are serious, they only have to worry about Vulcun. Except Gambit is like something like 0-7 vs Fnatic... Their play style just don't match up well.
So? The point is to give Gambit the win, even if they could beat them. No one can prove it. European teams are quite close, just check out that LCS round in Tenerife.
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On September 20 2013 15:18 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2013 15:14 Cubu wrote:On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote:On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote:
now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win. Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up they have no incentive because the next round matchups are gonna be random, so no difference between 1st and 2nd in group stage. Why should they bother? Fnatic destroys Gambit every single game because Gambit has a complete mental block when playing them. 7 games in a row, and each one looks worse and worse for Gambit. Why would Fnatic give that up? If they let Gambit get a win back on them, maybe Gambit will actually have hope and start winning games against them. Gotta kick them when they're down and keep them there.
yeah i'm sure it was mental block and not because they got outplayed. And im sure they give 2 shits about their record vs gambit......
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On September 20 2013 15:18 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2013 15:14 Cubu wrote:On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote:On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote:
now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win. Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up they have no incentive because the next round matchups are gonna be random, so no difference between 1st and 2nd in group stage. Why should they bother? Fnatic destroys Gambit every single game because Gambit has a complete mental block when playing them. 7 games in a row, and each one looks worse and worse for Gambit. Why would Fnatic give that up? If they let Gambit get a win back on them, maybe Gambit will actually have hope and start winning games against them. Gotta kick them when they're down and keep them there.
Or you can play the most underperforming game possible, let Gambit through, and throttle them in BoX's later.
Compared to the other teams out there - SKT, OMG, Royal, C9, and the other unknown seeded teams - I'd much rather play a team I have consistent strong performance against than any of those teams.
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On September 20 2013 15:20 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2013 15:17 vthree wrote:On September 20 2013 15:13 Volband wrote:On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote:On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote:
now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win. Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up Don't know about that, but it's like 99% sure that if Gambit wants the 2nd spot, they can get it. If they pick some brainless teamcomp like today's game 1, Fnatic might punish them, but if they are serious, they only have to worry about Vulcun. Except Gambit is like something like 0-7 vs Fnatic... Their play style just don't match up well. So? The point is to give Gambit the win, even if they could beat them. No one can prove it. European teams are quite close, just check out that LCS round in Tenerife.
Not sure if that even matters. Seems more like a stylistic thing to me that they're so close, but lemondogs is not playing like a top 2 EU team and gambit split 1-1 against ozone.
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On September 20 2013 15:19 Swords wrote:
Again, I think whoever's been coaching Ozone for worlds should be fired immediately after the tournament.
They benched Homme only to have Looper play Shen and Zac, which Homme is fine on. On top of that he's the team leader and shotcaller. Now they have a yoloqueue god playing the exact same champs.
They appeared woefully underprepared for these games. The fact Dade was reduced to playing Ryze in two games showed no preparation during the new patch, and no respect for his opponents. They had no idea Corki was any good this patch, and Imp tried to pick it up only after seeing Genja use it. They had Dade play Gragas despite apparently having no games on that champ.
Between the weird roster changes and the apparent inability to get the team ready for the biggest tournament of the year the coach failed miserably. Yes, responsibility does fall to the players to prepare, respect their opponents, and work together, but when those things aren't happening it's on the coach to get their rears in gear and he didn't. Not to mention benching Homme, which still makes no sense at all. They'll probably need to make roster changes now since Dade's going to be a shattered man after this tourney is over.
I'm sorry but Choi is currently bathing in money and can't hear you
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On September 20 2013 15:19 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2013 15:16 Thurken wrote:On September 20 2013 14:58 Fionn wrote:
Ozone had the game.
Dade threw it away. End of story. That's not objective and belittles Fnatic's play. They surely could have won the game without that double Dade gank. But if you're a Ozone fan, you can say that Ozone were in complete control. Fnatic played well -- extremely well -- but the two free kills were a complete throw and changed the game completely. To be fair, Imp also got caught out, and the dragon steal was a 2k shift for Fnatic, but those two straight deaths by Dade for no reason were a killer.
Yellowstar caught Imp and Mata mid twice, which was a huge huge play, but these were actually plays/ambushes. Dade's deaths were much worse because it was just a solo death in lane, followed by another death immediately after he TPed back in.
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On September 20 2013 15:16 Thurken wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2013 14:58 Fionn wrote:
Ozone had the game.
Dade threw it away. End of story. That's not objective and belittles Fnatic's play. They surely could have won the game without that double Dade gank. But if you're a Ozone fan, you can say that
fionn is a silly korea fanboy, don't pay him any heed 
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On September 20 2013 15:19 Swords wrote:
Again, I think whoever's been coaching Ozone for worlds should be fired immediately after the tournament.
They benched Homme only to have Looper play Shen and Zac, which Homme is fine on. On top of that he's the team leader and shotcaller. Now they have a yoloqueue god playing the exact same champs.
They appeared woefully underprepared for these games. The fact Dade was reduced to playing Ryze in two games showed no preparation during the new patch, and no respect for his opponents. They had no idea Corki was any good this patch, and Imp tried to pick it up only after seeing Genja use it. They had Dade play Gragas despite apparently having no games on that champ.
Between the weird roster changes and the apparent inability to get the team ready for the biggest tournament of the year the coach failed miserably. Yes, responsibility does fall to the players to prepare, respect their opponents, and work together, but when those things aren't happening it's on the coach to get their rears in gear and he didn't. Not to mention benching Homme, which still makes no sense at all. They'll probably need to make roster changes now since Dade's going to be a shattered man after this tourney is over.
Well said my friend. The coach is either a spy paid to throw games, or hes high.
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On September 20 2013 15:18 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2013 15:14 Cubu wrote:On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote:On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote:
now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win. Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up they have no incentive because the next round matchups are gonna be random, so no difference between 1st and 2nd in group stage. Why should they bother? Fnatic destroys Gambit every single game because Gambit has a complete mental block when playing them. 7 games in a row, and each one looks worse and worse for Gambit. Why would Fnatic give that up? If they let Gambit get a win back on them, maybe Gambit will actually have hope and start winning games against them. Gotta kick them when they're down and keep them there.
They'd know what's up, they'd take the win for what it is.
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On September 20 2013 15:17 Vonthin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2013 15:17 ChEDo wrote:
Ozone has to bring Homme back, just fly him over to LA right now. Its the only way to save the group (not sure if they even can now).
Homme was keeping all those punks in line, from laughing and throwing. Need that Korean Elder Golem up in this. Homme has been in LA this entire time.
For real? wtf. fuck ozone's coach then.
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On September 20 2013 15:20 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2013 15:17 vthree wrote:On September 20 2013 15:13 Volband wrote:On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote:On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote:
now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win. Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up Don't know about that, but it's like 99% sure that if Gambit wants the 2nd spot, they can get it. If they pick some brainless teamcomp like today's game 1, Fnatic might punish them, but if they are serious, they only have to worry about Vulcun. Except Gambit is like something like 0-7 vs Fnatic... Their play style just don't match up well. So? The point is to give Gambit the win, even if they could beat them. No one can prove it. European teams are quite close, just check out that LCS round in Tenerife.
They record the voice chat during games, I think that it would be a lot of trouble to fake and not worth the risk of being kicked out of everything ever
Gambit vs Fnatic is not close. At all.
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On September 20 2013 15:21 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2013 15:16 Thurken wrote:On September 20 2013 14:58 Fionn wrote:
Ozone had the game.
Dade threw it away. End of story. That's not objective and belittles Fnatic's play. They surely could have won the game without that double Dade gank. But if you're a Ozone fan, you can say that fionn is a silly korea fanboy, don't pay him any heed
I agree with Fionn.
These two free kills totally shifted the momentum.
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Vulcun ban zed?
mancloud clearly intimidated by yume's zed.
LOL YUME WITH SONA. #iwanttobelieve.
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Mineski's last real chance at a win, let's do this Exooo
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It probably would be beneficial for them to let gambit go through. Gambit's actually really good at taking out foreign teams. If they could pick off a Korean/Chinese team, that's one less Fnatic is gonna have to deal with. If they meet again deeper they would theoretically win anyway.
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TF + shen combo for vulcan
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On September 20 2013 15:20 Cubu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2013 15:18 Kiett wrote:On September 20 2013 15:14 Cubu wrote:On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote:On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote:
now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win. Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up they have no incentive because the next round matchups are gonna be random, so no difference between 1st and 2nd in group stage. Why should they bother? Fnatic destroys Gambit every single game because Gambit has a complete mental block when playing them. 7 games in a row, and each one looks worse and worse for Gambit. Why would Fnatic give that up? If they let Gambit get a win back on them, maybe Gambit will actually have hope and start winning games against them. Gotta kick them when they're down and keep them there. yeah i'm sure it was mental block and not because they got outplayed. And im sure they give 2 shits about their record vs gambit......
?? They believe gambit is a really easy team to predict both in picks/bans and during the game. fnatic is a hard counter to gambit.
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