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Dan HH
Romania9138 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote: now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win. Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:10 krndandaman wrote: someone remind me why their comp from the 1st game today was not suitable for this game? why didnt they do something like the double AD comp like before? Double AD gets crushed by double assassin. Ozone's comp was fine; they just executed terribly. I've been really really disappointed with Dade (obviously) this tourney but also with Mata. Mata just isn't playing the way he does in OGN. Actually, I'm just disappointed with everyone on Ozone tbh. | ||
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Leeto
United States1320 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:08 thefreed wrote: The thing is Korea had various logical problems with their circuit points. Getting Najin Sword and Ozone qualifying, because they both just got a seed based on it, and the rest of the current strong teams had to go through regionals. They should have just made a system where the top teams have through go through each other again, and got a 1,2,3 spot. I think SKT and KT Bullets were the clear 2 top teams of Korea recently. And it's questionable for SG Ozone vs CJ frost. It's a fact that CJ blaze had problems with team chemistry and the team had a bad atmosphere causing it.. Like one of the members said that even though when they performed good, they didn't have a good team atmosphere, and they thought that they could just keep playing well even though they aren't all friendly with each other in the team. I think Ozone had clear problems with Dade's champion pool being fucked prior to worlds. But they also didn't have good game plan and clear losers to fnatic. So 1.Skt 2. KT Bullets 3. I would think CJ Frost, because honestly they have more star players compaired to Najin and Ozone. I agree with everything here, but don't count out Najin just yet. They did take a spot by default that could have gone to KTB, but they might yet surprise everyone. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:11 wei2coolman wrote: Faker became a god through solo queue, if you think faker is sheer talent, you're dead wrong. Yeah, and he played out of date champions like ryze and nidalee and leblanc for the most part and just transitioned into competitive play god. Compare that to someone like dade who only plays his competitive champion pool in solo queue. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote: Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up Only to return the favor, right? :D | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote: now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win. I highly doubt this considering they already got penalized once. They'll probably hide strats and not try anything to interesting, but I'd expect they'll play their best considering they don't want to deal with any collusion accusations. | ||
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Steins;Gate
1422 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:10 krndandaman wrote: someone remind me why their comp from the 1st game today was not suitable for this game? why didnt they do something like the double AD comp like before? Kassadin sorta dumps on double AD if he gets through the early game all right(this game he even got shut down really hard early and it didn't matter) | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:08 thefreed wrote: The thing is Korea had various logical problems with their circuit points. Getting Najin Sword and Ozone qualifying, because they both just got a seed based on it, and the rest of the current strong teams had to go through regionals. They should have just made a system where the top teams have through go through each other again, and got a 1,2,3 spot. I think SKT and KT Bullets were the clear 2 top teams of Korea recently. And it's questionable for SG Ozone vs CJ frost. It's a fact that CJ blaze had problems with team chemistry and the team had a bad atmosphere causing it.. Like one of the members said that even though when they performed good, they didn't have a good team atmosphere, and they thought that they could just keep playing well even though they aren't all friendly with each other in the team. I think Ozone had clear problems with Dade's champion pool being fucked prior to worlds. But they also didn't have good game plan and clear losers to fnatic. So 1.Skt 2. KT Bullets 3. I would think CJ Frost, because honestly they have more star players compaired to Najin and Ozone. Must be nice to make this comment now... Ozone was wildly considered the 3rd best team in Korea behind SKT and KT. | ||
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PhOeniX[MinD]
361 Posts
i think the next round will be amazing cloud 9 will show them im sure (i hope) | ||
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Thinasy
2856 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
Flame pretty much just plays purple champions in solo queue. | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote: Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up Don't know about that, but it's like 99% sure that if Gambit wants the 2nd spot, they can get it. If they pick some brainless teamcomp like today's game 1, Fnatic might punish them, but if they are serious, they only have to worry about Vulcun. | ||
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Fubi
2228 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:03 Zdrastochye wrote: If Korea doesn't win worlds I think they can be contenders for being the most overhyped region considering two shots at worlds and zero titles. I still think Najin will win. That doesn't mean to say I think Korea isn't the best server, it clearly is, I'm just saying the feeling going into this worlds was Koreans would just walk over everyone, even SKT T1 has struggled at times. People need to stop taking "Koreans are better than other region" out of context. The thing that makes Koreans better than other region isn't that their top teams are miles ahead of other region's top teams. It's the fact that they have more QUANTITY of top teams. The top European teams and Chinese teams had always been competitive with top korean teams; but it's almost the same 2-3 top teams for those regions. Whereas in Korea, the sheer amount of top teams coming out of nowhere is crazy. To put it in perspective, SKT1 wasn't even formed in the first round of OGN champions this season, and that was also KTB's first season afaik. So yes, if you think of it that way, the korean competitve scene for LoL is stil way ahead from that perspective. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:08 thefreed wrote: + Show Spoiler + The thing is Korea had various logical problems with their circuit points. Getting Najin Sword and Ozone qualifying, because they both just got a seed based on it, and the rest of the current strong teams had to go through regionals. They should have just made a system where the top teams have through go through each other again, and got a 1,2,3 spot. I think SKT and KT Bullets were the clear 2 top teams of Korea recently. And it's questionable for SG Ozone vs CJ frost. It's a fact that CJ blaze had problems with team chemistry and the team had a bad atmosphere causing it.. Like one of the members said that even though when they performed good, they didn't have a good team atmosphere, and they thought that they could just keep playing well even though they aren't all friendly with each other in the team. I think Ozone had clear problems with Dade's champion pool being fucked prior to worlds. But they also didn't have good game plan and clear losers to fnatic. So 1.Skt 2. KT Bullets 3. I would think CJ Frost, because honestly they have more star players compaired to Najin and Ozone. Pls can we stop make up circuit points or tournament structure excuses. Ozone was the 3rd place team last OGN and the champion before that. They beat Frost in a Bo5 and they were the 3rd best korean team coming into this. The patch which fucked over Dade, loss of Homme as a leader and general cockiness is what's happening in L.A. Fnatic Beastmode | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote: now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win. I don't think this is a given. Fnatic has good incentive to try and knock Gambit out if they believe Gambit poses a bigger threat to them in the playoffs. I'm not sure how deep their friendship goes, but if I'm playing for hundreds of thousands of dollars, I'll take any edge I can get. | ||
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Cubu
1171 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote: Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up they have no incentive because the next round matchups are gonna be random, so no difference between 1st and 2nd in group stage. Why should they bother? | ||
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BackSideAttack
1103 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:11 Volband wrote: True, but really now, even Fnatic did the most stupidest thing ever to let Gambit win, who would feel sorry for this Oozone? Dade not giving a single fuck, Mata wasting his ult twice just for the lulz, imp ("bestadceverhavemybabiespls") gettind caught in MID lane with EZREAL. Like what the hell, it's like they want to prove a point. Yet this is the same team that just stomped Gambit today. They deserve a chance in the tiebreakers against Gambit, but the game scheduling is going to deny them of it. I just hope Vulcun still tries their best against Gambit even if they lose to Ozone and can't advance anymore. | ||
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thefreed
United States222 Posts
On September 20 2013 15:12 Leeto wrote: I agree with everything here, but don't count out Najin just yet. They did take a spot by default that could have gone to KTB, but they might yet surprise everyone. I still think they have some good players but their top lane is weaker then what it used to be. Other lanes aren't star material, the only good team they beat in NLB was CJ blaze this season, and they weren't even in top 5 this season. | ||
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