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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 20 2013 06:23 GMT
#10421
Vulcun vs Mineski

Bans:
Nocturne                                Ahri
Thresh                                Orianna
Zed                                Karthus

Picks:
Shen                                Corki / Elise
Vi / Zyra                                Sona / Lee Sin
Ashe / Twisted Fate                                Ryze
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
September 20 2013 06:23 GMT
#10422
Is that Kaigu on lee sin again LOL
Fan of the Jangbanger
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 20 2013 06:23 GMT
#10423
Is that loci on Mineski?
liftlift > tsm
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33571 Posts
September 20 2013 06:23 GMT
#10424
On September 20 2013 15:22 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 15:21 Waxangel wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:16 Thurken wrote:
On September 20 2013 14:58 Fionn wrote:
Ozone had the game.

Dade threw it away. End of story.

That's not objective and belittles Fnatic's play. They surely could have won the game without that double Dade gank. But if you're a Ozone fan, you can say that


fionn is a silly korea fanboy, don't pay him any heed

I agree with Fionn.
These two free kills totally shifted the momentum.


you're also a silly korea fanboy!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
ChEDo
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada310 Posts
September 20 2013 06:24 GMT
#10425
On September 20 2013 15:21 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 15:17 Vonthin wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:17 ChEDo wrote:
Ozone has to bring Homme back, just fly him over to LA right now. Its the only way to save the group (not sure if they even can now).

Homme was keeping all those punks in line, from laughing and throwing. Need that Korean Elder Golem up in this.


Homme has been in LA this entire time.

For real? wtf. fuck ozone's coach then.

WHAT!?! What is the coach doing, if i was the coach after Day 1, I would have slapped everyone on Ozone and subbed in Homme so he could yell at everyone and tell them that they are an embarrassment to Korea.

Seriously whats wrong with the Ozone coach and whos the new shot caller.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 20 2013 06:24 GMT
#10426
On September 20 2013 15:22 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 15:21 Waxangel wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:16 Thurken wrote:
On September 20 2013 14:58 Fionn wrote:
Ozone had the game.

Dade threw it away. End of story.

That's not objective and belittles Fnatic's play. They surely could have won the game without that double Dade gank. But if you're a Ozone fan, you can say that


fionn is a silly korea fanboy, don't pay him any heed

I agree with Fionn.
These two free kills totally shifted the momentum.

Giving up two free kills to corki was huge because trinity force timing is such a big deal right now. Total gold was not the issue here after this happened.
NatusPrinceps
Profile Joined August 2013
192 Posts
September 20 2013 06:24 GMT
#10427
I'm getting some sick twisted pleasure out of seeing dade suck so fucking hard.

Mainly because I hate kkoma and his fucking attitude.
Seriously this guy got so butthurt over regi calling dade bad and now dade is the guy who is making korea look like a joke.

I really hate kkoma.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 20 2013 06:24 GMT
#10428
On September 20 2013 15:19 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 15:18 Kiett wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:14 Cubu wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote:
now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win.

Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up

they have no incentive because the next round matchups are gonna be random, so no difference between 1st and 2nd in group stage. Why should they bother?

Fnatic destroys Gambit every single game because Gambit has a complete mental block when playing them. 7 games in a row, and each one looks worse and worse for Gambit. Why would Fnatic give that up? If they let Gambit get a win back on them, maybe Gambit will actually have hope and start winning games against them. Gotta kick them when they're down and keep them there.


Maybe because they feel that Ozone poses a more significant threat to them than Gambit. Strategically it would behoove them to throw.


I dunno, after those 2 games vs Ozone, I don't think Fnatic would mind facing either Ozone or Gambit in the finals. Might as well have wins streaks against both teams.

Of course, Fnatic won't reveal any pocket strats but they will play standard game to their best ability.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 06:25:01
September 20 2013 06:24 GMT
#10429
On September 20 2013 15:24 ChEDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 15:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:17 Vonthin wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:17 ChEDo wrote:
Ozone has to bring Homme back, just fly him over to LA right now. Its the only way to save the group (not sure if they even can now).

Homme was keeping all those punks in line, from laughing and throwing. Need that Korean Elder Golem up in this.


Homme has been in LA this entire time.

For real? wtf. fuck ozone's coach then.

WHAT!?! What is the coach doing, if i was the coach after Day 1, I would have slapped everyone on Ozone and subbed in Homme so he could yell at everyone and tell them that they are an embarrassment to Korea.

Seriously whats wrong with the Ozone coach and whos the new shot caller.


Ozone coach is the ex-owner of Team MVP and not the guy who coached them when they won OGN.

Maybe he sucks at his job
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 20 2013 06:25 GMT
#10430
also for my hair, the lady cutting my hair told me that i look ugly with my previous hairstyle, so she changed it. And i hate it, but oh well


I'd rage so hard at that hair lady
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 20 2013 06:25 GMT
#10431
On September 20 2013 15:24 NatusPrinceps wrote:
I'm getting some sick twisted pleasure out of seeing dade suck so fucking hard.

Mainly because I hate kkoma and his fucking attitude.
Seriously this guy got so butthurt over regi calling dade bad and now dade is the guy who is making korea look like a joke.

I really hate kkoma.

Wut, kkoma is skt's coach right?
liftlift > tsm
thefreed
Profile Joined January 2011
United States222 Posts
September 20 2013 06:25 GMT
#10432
On September 20 2013 15:16 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 15:15 thefreed wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:12 Leeto wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:08 thefreed wrote:
The thing is Korea had various logical problems with their circuit points. Getting Najin Sword and Ozone qualifying, because they both just got a seed based on it, and the rest of the current strong teams had to go through regionals.
They should have just made a system where the top teams have through go through each other again, and got a 1,2,3 spot.

I think SKT and KT Bullets were the clear 2 top teams of Korea recently. And it's questionable for SG Ozone vs CJ frost.

It's a fact that CJ blaze had problems with team chemistry and the team had a bad atmosphere causing it.. Like one of the members said that even though when they performed good, they didn't have a good team atmosphere, and they thought that they could just keep playing well even though they aren't all friendly with each other in the team.

I think Ozone had clear problems with Dade's champion pool being fucked prior to worlds.
But they also didn't have good game plan and clear losers to fnatic.

So 1.Skt 2. KT Bullets 3. I would think CJ Frost, because honestly they have more star players compaired to Najin and Ozone.


I agree with everything here, but don't count out Najin just yet. They did take a spot by default that could have gone to KTB, but they might yet surprise everyone.


I still think they have some good players but their top lane is weaker then what it used to be. Other lanes aren't star material, the only good team they beat in NLB was CJ blaze this season, and they weren't even in top 5 this season.


Almost everyone in Korea believes Expession is a much better top than Maknoon. He is/was regarded as good or better than Flame and Shy.


Maybe some but most people still believe in Shy and Flame, far more then Expession. Even to Insec, I don't think Expession has as much notoriety as them. It's questionable if they think he's a better top then Maknoon, cause he was kind of mediocre from what I saw of him.
My country is the world, My religion is to do good. -T.P The fool doth thinks his a wise man, but the wise man knows he is a fool. -W.S
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
September 20 2013 06:25 GMT
#10433
Showmatch gg.eu vs mineski pls.
Woo Jung Ho
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
September 20 2013 06:25 GMT
#10434
On September 20 2013 15:22 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 15:21 Waxangel wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:16 Thurken wrote:
On September 20 2013 14:58 Fionn wrote:
Ozone had the game.

Dade threw it away. End of story.

That's not objective and belittles Fnatic's play. They surely could have won the game without that double Dade gank. But if you're a Ozone fan, you can say that


fionn is a silly korea fanboy, don't pay him any heed

I agree with Fionn.
These two free kills totally shifted the momentum.


I didn't see you saying "That pick&ban phase and Genja facecheck totally threw the game to Ozone, game lost at lvl1, not outplayed or anything".

How does it hold true only when Koreans lose?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 20 2013 06:26 GMT
#10435
Ozone apparently crushed teams like OMG in scrims with Looper. So they went with him. I mean, you can't blame Looper for their losses -- Imp and most importantly Dade being the main people getting caught and playing poorly -- but Homme was their voice and captain of the team. If Looper is just going to play Zac and Shen, champions that Homme plays, then there is really no point to keeping him out.

It's been a gigantic mess for Samsung this tournament. Lack of preparation and Dade's champion pool have been the death of them.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
ChEDo
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada310 Posts
September 20 2013 06:26 GMT
#10436
If I had the money I would fly to LA kidnap the Ozone coach, sub in Homme, then lead Ozone to victory and become head coach, and make $$$
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 20 2013 06:26 GMT
#10437
On September 20 2013 15:22 Flakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 15:20 Volband wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:17 vthree wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:13 Volband wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote:
now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win.

Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up

Don't know about that, but it's like 99% sure that if Gambit wants the 2nd spot, they can get it. If they pick some brainless teamcomp like today's game 1, Fnatic might punish them, but if they are serious, they only have to worry about Vulcun.


Except Gambit is like something like 0-7 vs Fnatic... Their play style just don't match up well.

So? The point is to give Gambit the win, even if they could beat them. No one can prove it. European teams are quite close, just check out that LCS round in Tenerife.

They record the voice chat during games, I think that it would be a lot of trouble to fake and not worth the risk of being kicked out of everything ever

Gambit vs Fnatic is not close. At all.

Why would they talk about it DURING the game? They chill back today, and quetly agree what they'll gonna do againts Gambit. Gambit is still a powerhouse team, so you don't have to walk under their turret, to let them win. A missing ward, a bad positioning, a little snowball, and they can capitalize on it.

Even if they were serious, they'd bust out some 2nd tier champs, just for proper practice.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9179 Posts
September 20 2013 06:26 GMT
#10438
On September 17 2013 16:21 Cubu wrote:
i think gambit threw this game so only eu teams end up advancing. I mean who the hell plays shyv and xin in pro games/


On September 20 2013 15:20 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 15:18 Kiett wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:14 Cubu wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:11 Dan HH wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:10 Cubu wrote:
now that fnatic is guaranteed to make it through, i think they will just give their european team a win.

Says the guy who implied several times that Gambit threw against Fnatic in their first match-up

they have no incentive because the next round matchups are gonna be random, so no difference between 1st and 2nd in group stage. Why should they bother?

Fnatic destroys Gambit every single game because Gambit has a complete mental block when playing them. 7 games in a row, and each one looks worse and worse for Gambit. Why would Fnatic give that up? If they let Gambit get a win back on them, maybe Gambit will actually have hope and start winning games against them. Gotta kick them when they're down and keep them there.

yeah i'm sure it was mental block and not because they got outplayed. And im sure they give 2 shits about their record vs gambit......



Oh so now you're sure Gambit got outplayed? Interesting.
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
September 20 2013 06:26 GMT
#10439
Oh fail.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
September 20 2013 06:26 GMT
#10440
On September 20 2013 15:24 ChEDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 15:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:17 Vonthin wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:17 ChEDo wrote:
Ozone has to bring Homme back, just fly him over to LA right now. Its the only way to save the group (not sure if they even can now).

Homme was keeping all those punks in line, from laughing and throwing. Need that Korean Elder Golem up in this.


Homme has been in LA this entire time.

For real? wtf. fuck ozone's coach then.

WHAT!?! What is the coach doing, if i was the coach after Day 1, I would have slapped everyone on Ozone and subbed in Homme so he could yell at everyone and tell them that they are an embarrassment to Korea.

Seriously whats wrong with the Ozone coach and whos the new shot caller.


Just imagine being Homme in all this? You lead your team to worlds, then you get benched because "your champ pool doesn't fit with the new patch", and then you watch your team embarrass itself on the worlds stage while your replacement plays Shen and Zac.
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