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Lol Dade real bad with barrels vs Fnatic, hilar.
Xpeke real dance moves, sidesteps all the things
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What was hilarious was it was like dade was playing jungle and dandy was mid laner for the first 15 minutes lol
Dade always went to cover lanes that were pushed in. First time top at level 5 (lol) and then again after the play bottom. Then dandy was mid for like a good 4 minutes lol
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That was Dade first game ever on Gragas
What can he play besides Ahri and Zed?
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On September 17 2013 20:55 Spaiku wrote:
That was Dade first game ever with Gragas
What can he play besides Ahri and Zed?
Actually, dade doesn't really play Ahri. He plays Jayce, TF, Ryze.
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Ha, if he could play ahri theyd have a lot less problems right now haha
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On September 17 2013 20:55 Spaiku wrote:
That was Dade first game ever with Gragas
What can he play besides Ahri and Zed?
Ryze. I haven't seen much else.
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I was assuming every good korean mid had picked up Ahri this season, i guess not
So his three main champions got gutted, sucks to be Dade
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On September 17 2013 21:04 AsnSensation wrote:
Ha, if he could play ahri theyd have a lot less problems right now haha
He can only play really OP champions so we'll probably see him pick up Corki after worlds.
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On September 17 2013 19:39 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 19:19 cLutZ wrote:On September 17 2013 17:42 Lysanias wrote:On September 17 2013 17:35 cLutZ wrote:On September 17 2013 17:27 AsnSensation wrote:On September 17 2013 17:21 cLutZ wrote:
Corki also helps the EU botlanes hide their mechanical deficiency in favor of their (usually) decent positioning. Spam rockets, look at healthbars: If can clean up hard, go manmode>WQE, else Keep poking, turn on E, Q something close to you, and W away if you are getting attacked.
Edit. This is why I find Corki offensive (aesthetically), just like the BT>LW Varus builds that are so lame. I don't think corki was the reason Gambit won vs Mineski and Fnatic won vs Ozone today I think its a reason fanatics botlane didn't get stomped vs ozone. then perhaps godly imp should learn to either ban or play him. Silly excuses. Yea. You should learn to play a champ that hasn't been viable for most of your pro career in the 2 weeks since your last competitive tournament. Smart. I'm not defending Ozone's overall play, but people who deny that Corki is a nice crutch are lying. And if you look at it from the POV that says that Lucian should be banned, Corki is no less of an unknown power level/wrench in the works than if they let in Lucian. This is excactly what koreans do and are known for, to scout and learn OP champions after new patches. And yes it is smart for it made many Korean teams stomp another in OGN. I really do not see your point tbh.
Well they usually have a longer time frame than 2 weeks to learn the champ.
Again, the fact that EU got the most time out of any region to practice on the new patch shows through really clearly.
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Btw, doublelift really likes to overhype mancloud. Mancloud can hold his own in lane against anybody but he really fails to carry the team on his back the same way these other mid laners are doing and making plays in the mid game. I think the game against Ozone showed this even though he got a kill and should have effectively snowballed that game. His general gamesense isn't as good either. He really got owned by alex and diamond today.
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On September 17 2013 21:18 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 19:39 Lysanias wrote:On September 17 2013 19:19 cLutZ wrote:On September 17 2013 17:42 Lysanias wrote:On September 17 2013 17:35 cLutZ wrote:On September 17 2013 17:27 AsnSensation wrote:On September 17 2013 17:21 cLutZ wrote:
Corki also helps the EU botlanes hide their mechanical deficiency in favor of their (usually) decent positioning. Spam rockets, look at healthbars: If can clean up hard, go manmode>WQE, else Keep poking, turn on E, Q something close to you, and W away if you are getting attacked.
Edit. This is why I find Corki offensive (aesthetically), just like the BT>LW Varus builds that are so lame. I don't think corki was the reason Gambit won vs Mineski and Fnatic won vs Ozone today I think its a reason fanatics botlane didn't get stomped vs ozone. then perhaps godly imp should learn to either ban or play him. Silly excuses. Yea. You should learn to play a champ that hasn't been viable for most of your pro career in the 2 weeks since your last competitive tournament. Smart. I'm not defending Ozone's overall play, but people who deny that Corki is a nice crutch are lying. And if you look at it from the POV that says that Lucian should be banned, Corki is no less of an unknown power level/wrench in the works than if they let in Lucian. This is excactly what koreans do and are known for, to scout and learn OP champions after new patches. And yes it is smart for it made many Korean teams stomp another in OGN. I really do not see your point tbh. Well they usually have a longer time frame than 2 weeks to learn the champ. Again, the fact that EU got the most time out of any region to practice on the new patch shows through really clearly.
Yet the chinese with alot less time play him aswell, sorry i can't really agree.
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On September 17 2013 21:18 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 19:39 Lysanias wrote:On September 17 2013 19:19 cLutZ wrote:On September 17 2013 17:42 Lysanias wrote:On September 17 2013 17:35 cLutZ wrote:On September 17 2013 17:27 AsnSensation wrote:On September 17 2013 17:21 cLutZ wrote:
Corki also helps the EU botlanes hide their mechanical deficiency in favor of their (usually) decent positioning. Spam rockets, look at healthbars: If can clean up hard, go manmode>WQE, else Keep poking, turn on E, Q something close to you, and W away if you are getting attacked.
Edit. This is why I find Corki offensive (aesthetically), just like the BT>LW Varus builds that are so lame. I don't think corki was the reason Gambit won vs Mineski and Fnatic won vs Ozone today I think its a reason fanatics botlane didn't get stomped vs ozone. then perhaps godly imp should learn to either ban or play him. Silly excuses. Yea. You should learn to play a champ that hasn't been viable for most of your pro career in the 2 weeks since your last competitive tournament. Smart. I'm not defending Ozone's overall play, but people who deny that Corki is a nice crutch are lying. And if you look at it from the POV that says that Lucian should be banned, Corki is no less of an unknown power level/wrench in the works than if they let in Lucian. This is excactly what koreans do and are known for, to scout and learn OP champions after new patches. And yes it is smart for it made many Korean teams stomp another in OGN. I really do not see your point tbh. Well they usually have a longer time frame than 2 weeks to learn the champ. Again, the fact that EU got the most time out of any region to practice on the new patch shows through really clearly.
The picks aren't so much different of what we see from both team (Fnatic/Gambit) in the regular split. Your making yourself to much of delusional of the more pracc time.
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On September 17 2013 21:18 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 19:39 Lysanias wrote:On September 17 2013 19:19 cLutZ wrote:On September 17 2013 17:42 Lysanias wrote:On September 17 2013 17:35 cLutZ wrote:On September 17 2013 17:27 AsnSensation wrote:On September 17 2013 17:21 cLutZ wrote:
Corki also helps the EU botlanes hide their mechanical deficiency in favor of their (usually) decent positioning. Spam rockets, look at healthbars: If can clean up hard, go manmode>WQE, else Keep poking, turn on E, Q something close to you, and W away if you are getting attacked.
Edit. This is why I find Corki offensive (aesthetically), just like the BT>LW Varus builds that are so lame. I don't think corki was the reason Gambit won vs Mineski and Fnatic won vs Ozone today I think its a reason fanatics botlane didn't get stomped vs ozone. then perhaps godly imp should learn to either ban or play him. Silly excuses. Yea. You should learn to play a champ that hasn't been viable for most of your pro career in the 2 weeks since your last competitive tournament. Smart. I'm not defending Ozone's overall play, but people who deny that Corki is a nice crutch are lying. And if you look at it from the POV that says that Lucian should be banned, Corki is no less of an unknown power level/wrench in the works than if they let in Lucian. This is excactly what koreans do and are known for, to scout and learn OP champions after new patches. And yes it is smart for it made many Korean teams stomp another in OGN. I really do not see your point tbh. Well they usually have a longer time frame than 2 weeks to learn the champ. Again, the fact that EU got the most time out of any region to practice on the new patch shows through really clearly.
What? No sry but taking bad engagements cause you are out of position and other questionable decisionmaking is not about the new patch at all. Face it, korea as a whole isnt really better as the top european teams and na is still pretty lackluster (except MAYBE c9) in comparison. that has nothing to do with any patches at all, its like that for over a year now.
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On September 17 2013 21:28 Lysanias wrote:
Yet the chinese with alot less time play him aswell, sorry i can't really agree.
"The Chinese", when the best Chinese team has beaten a trash NA team and snowballed a game super hard in the first 5 minutes against T1 tells you they understand this version better than everyone else? Ok.
On September 17 2013 21:30 ExoFun wrote:
The picks aren't so much different of what we see from both team (Fnatic/Gambit) in the regular split. Your making yourself to much of delusional of the more pracc time.
And? This version suits those picks much more than 3.09/3.10 did, and the Korean teams didn't get time to adapt to that.
On September 17 2013 21:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
What? No sry but taking bad engagements cause you are out of position and other questionable decisionmaking is not about the new patch at all. Face it, korea as a whole isnt really better as the top european teams and na is still pretty lackluster (except MAYBE c9) in comparison. that has nothing to do with any patches at all, its like that for over a year now.
I'm not disputing that Ozone also played bad and still would have lost regardless, but again it's pretty clear that Fnatic and Gambit are far more comfortable and experienced drafting this patch than Ozone.
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Wtf people who are saying Koreans are not as good as people thought because of the last few matches are dumb. It's two matches out of plenty the regions are going to play. Please don't get ahead of yourselves ROFL. TL best bandwagoners
Whatever though. China #1
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Really hoping to see group one get a bit more interesting, either by LD beating OMG or TSM beating SKT.
Kind of sad since I'm an SKT fan but I'm kind of enjoying seeing more parity than I expected going in.
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On September 17 2013 21:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 21:18 TheYango wrote:On September 17 2013 19:39 Lysanias wrote:On September 17 2013 19:19 cLutZ wrote:On September 17 2013 17:42 Lysanias wrote:On September 17 2013 17:35 cLutZ wrote:On September 17 2013 17:27 AsnSensation wrote:On September 17 2013 17:21 cLutZ wrote:
Corki also helps the EU botlanes hide their mechanical deficiency in favor of their (usually) decent positioning. Spam rockets, look at healthbars: If can clean up hard, go manmode>WQE, else Keep poking, turn on E, Q something close to you, and W away if you are getting attacked.
Edit. This is why I find Corki offensive (aesthetically), just like the BT>LW Varus builds that are so lame. I don't think corki was the reason Gambit won vs Mineski and Fnatic won vs Ozone today I think its a reason fanatics botlane didn't get stomped vs ozone. then perhaps godly imp should learn to either ban or play him. Silly excuses. Yea. You should learn to play a champ that hasn't been viable for most of your pro career in the 2 weeks since your last competitive tournament. Smart. I'm not defending Ozone's overall play, but people who deny that Corki is a nice crutch are lying. And if you look at it from the POV that says that Lucian should be banned, Corki is no less of an unknown power level/wrench in the works than if they let in Lucian. This is excactly what koreans do and are known for, to scout and learn OP champions after new patches. And yes it is smart for it made many Korean teams stomp another in OGN. I really do not see your point tbh. Well they usually have a longer time frame than 2 weeks to learn the champ. Again, the fact that EU got the most time out of any region to practice on the new patch shows through really clearly. What? No sry but taking bad engagements cause you are out of position and other questionable decisionmaking is not about the new patch at all. Face it, korea as a whole isnt really better as the top european teams and na is still pretty lackluster (except MAYBE c9) in comparison. that has nothing to do with any patches at all, its like that for over a year now.
I am not sure about top European teams because the top 6-7 teams in EU was pretty close all second split. If anything, there haven't been a really consistent European team. Both Gambit and Fnatic have been inconsistent all season. That might have to due with parity in EU or the teams just fluctuate a lot. And Vulcun did best Fnatic so not sure why you say NA is lackluster. Let's see the whole group stages play out first.
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People are getting extremely defensive because they think I'm trying to pin Ozone's loss on the patch issue. I'm not. They're a broken team and nothing excuses their poor play. Fnatic and Gambit's top standing in the group right now is deserved.
But that doesn't make a patch 3 weeks before Worlds any less shitty.
On September 17 2013 21:39 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 21:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 17 2013 21:18 TheYango wrote:On September 17 2013 19:39 Lysanias wrote:On September 17 2013 19:19 cLutZ wrote:On September 17 2013 17:42 Lysanias wrote:On September 17 2013 17:35 cLutZ wrote:On September 17 2013 17:27 AsnSensation wrote:On September 17 2013 17:21 cLutZ wrote:
Corki also helps the EU botlanes hide their mechanical deficiency in favor of their (usually) decent positioning. Spam rockets, look at healthbars: If can clean up hard, go manmode>WQE, else Keep poking, turn on E, Q something close to you, and W away if you are getting attacked.
Edit. This is why I find Corki offensive (aesthetically), just like the BT>LW Varus builds that are so lame. I don't think corki was the reason Gambit won vs Mineski and Fnatic won vs Ozone today I think its a reason fanatics botlane didn't get stomped vs ozone. then perhaps godly imp should learn to either ban or play him. Silly excuses. Yea. You should learn to play a champ that hasn't been viable for most of your pro career in the 2 weeks since your last competitive tournament. Smart. I'm not defending Ozone's overall play, but people who deny that Corki is a nice crutch are lying. And if you look at it from the POV that says that Lucian should be banned, Corki is no less of an unknown power level/wrench in the works than if they let in Lucian. This is excactly what koreans do and are known for, to scout and learn OP champions after new patches. And yes it is smart for it made many Korean teams stomp another in OGN. I really do not see your point tbh. Well they usually have a longer time frame than 2 weeks to learn the champ. Again, the fact that EU got the most time out of any region to practice on the new patch shows through really clearly. What? No sry but taking bad engagements cause you are out of position and other questionable decisionmaking is not about the new patch at all. Face it, korea as a whole isnt really better as the top european teams and na is still pretty lackluster (except MAYBE c9) in comparison. that has nothing to do with any patches at all, its like that for over a year now. I am not sure about top European teams because the top 6-7 teams in EU was pretty close all second split. If anything, there haven't been a really consistent European team. Both Gambit and Fnatic have been inconsistent all season. That might have to due with parity in EU or the teams just fluctuate a lot. And Vulcun did best Fnatic so not sure why you say NA is lackluster. Let's see the whole group stages play out first.
Fnatic's strength has always been in their strategy and prep, and their weakness is that they are not clutch. They look great vs. teams that they know or prepare for, and can look much less convincing against teams that they have not prepared for.
Ozone was the team that they definitely 100% prepared for going into this group and they already know Gambit from playing against them before. It wouldn't surprise me if they just wrote off Vulcun as a legitimate contender and were just winging it against them.
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looking forward to more omg ownage tomorrow~
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How is that investment working out for you Samsung hue hue hue.
PS
Russians rule.
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