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NatusPrinceps
Profile Joined August 2013
192 Posts
September 17 2013 08:16 GMT
#6381
i will get so much lols out of all the wagon hopping that will take place if ozone ends up winning the whole tournament
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 08:22:33
September 17 2013 08:21 GMT
#6382
Corki also helps the EU botlanes hide their mechanical deficiency in favor of their (usually) decent positioning. Spam rockets, look at healthbars: If can clean up hard, go manmode>WQE, else Keep poking, turn on E, Q something close to you, and W away if you are getting attacked.

Edit. This is why I find Corki offensive (aesthetically), just like the BT>LW Varus builds that are so lame.
Freeeeeeedom
SpectreSOF
Profile Joined July 2010
United States74 Posts
September 17 2013 08:25 GMT
#6383
If Ozone doesn't step it up for the second round of RR they might not be a given to make it out of group stage. Whatever merit they came into world's with simply isn't showing with their performances.
The road to victory is a path paved with blood and corpses
niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
September 17 2013 08:25 GMT
#6384


Hype for Regi————Best Mid in the world
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 08:28:07
September 17 2013 08:27 GMT
#6385
On September 17 2013 17:21 cLutZ wrote:
Corki also helps the EU botlanes hide their mechanical deficiency in favor of their (usually) decent positioning. Spam rockets, look at healthbars: If can clean up hard, go manmode>WQE, else Keep poking, turn on E, Q something close to you, and W away if you are getting attacked.

Edit. This is why I find Corki offensive (aesthetically), just like the BT>LW Varus builds that are so lame.


I don't think corki was the reason Gambit won vs Mineski and Fnatic won vs Ozone today
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 08:32:08
September 17 2013 08:29 GMT
#6386
On September 17 2013 17:25 niukasu1990 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhJDXhE5D_U

Hype for Regi————Best Mid in the world


While that video is very old and not very serious its still going to be funny as hell watching Faker destroy Regi
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 17 2013 08:35 GMT
#6387
On September 17 2013 17:27 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 17:21 cLutZ wrote:
Corki also helps the EU botlanes hide their mechanical deficiency in favor of their (usually) decent positioning. Spam rockets, look at healthbars: If can clean up hard, go manmode>WQE, else Keep poking, turn on E, Q something close to you, and W away if you are getting attacked.

Edit. This is why I find Corki offensive (aesthetically), just like the BT>LW Varus builds that are so lame.


I don't think corki was the reason Gambit won vs Mineski and Fnatic won vs Ozone today

I think its a reason fanatics botlane didn't get stomped vs ozone.
Freeeeeeedom
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 17 2013 08:40 GMT
#6388
On September 17 2013 16:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 16:51 ketchup wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:49 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:48 ketchup wrote:
It's not like there are a lot of posters who aren't asleep yet. The topic should just be changed to what people think will happen for Day 3. Like how Regi will get stomped by Faker at mid.

Tomorrow is going to be a good day for my fantasy team.
Faker + Cool combo gunna be good.


I'm more upset at how fed TSM got in the first day that they beefed up your team so much. Seriously messed up. You should be crying in the middle packs like the rest of us!

Fuck dat. I built my team with pure skillz and theory crafting. WT is cheap points. He's always #1 farm priority. Tsm going to have longer games than usual in this group. So wt and xpecial doing work for me. Sans so op'd tho. Wish I picked him up m


Xpecial got more points in one game than most supports got in two. I definitely didn't use my wild card slot properly though. Oh well
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 17 2013 08:42 GMT
#6389
On September 17 2013 17:35 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 17:27 AsnSensation wrote:
On September 17 2013 17:21 cLutZ wrote:
Corki also helps the EU botlanes hide their mechanical deficiency in favor of their (usually) decent positioning. Spam rockets, look at healthbars: If can clean up hard, go manmode>WQE, else Keep poking, turn on E, Q something close to you, and W away if you are getting attacked.

Edit. This is why I find Corki offensive (aesthetically), just like the BT>LW Varus builds that are so lame.


I don't think corki was the reason Gambit won vs Mineski and Fnatic won vs Ozone today

I think its a reason fanatics botlane didn't get stomped vs ozone.


then perhaps godly imp should learn to either ban or play him.
Silly excuses.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
September 17 2013 08:43 GMT
#6390
On September 17 2013 17:25 niukasu1990 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhJDXhE5D_U

Hype for Regi————Best Mid in the world


That's video was pretty funny at the time because 1. He wasn't serious and 2. People got ticked off about it since TSM, at the time, was recognized as the stronger team in the western world, and so there was enough reason to back that claim that people legitimately thought he was serious.

xPeke, in particular, actually called out regi before their game and got smashed lol.
Fan of the Jangbanger
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 08:56:25
September 17 2013 08:44 GMT
#6391
On September 17 2013 17:35 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 17:27 AsnSensation wrote:
On September 17 2013 17:21 cLutZ wrote:
Corki also helps the EU botlanes hide their mechanical deficiency in favor of their (usually) decent positioning. Spam rockets, look at healthbars: If can clean up hard, go manmode>WQE, else Keep poking, turn on E, Q something close to you, and W away if you are getting attacked.

Edit. This is why I find Corki offensive (aesthetically), just like the BT>LW Varus builds that are so lame.


I don't think corki was the reason Gambit won vs Mineski and Fnatic won vs Ozone today

I think its a reason fanatics botlane didn't get stomped vs ozone.


genja must be godly then to win with koggles against imps best champion

to elaborate the 2v2 laning phase top wasn't even long enough for the corki pick to have "mattered" since he didn't have the supposed OP triforce at the time, it was fnatic teameffort and mainly Soaz's nice TPs first top and then that snowballed the game in fnatics favour. Wouldn't have made a difference if Puszu played Varus instead (might have been even better for the additional pick potential)
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 17 2013 08:44 GMT
#6392
yurop
A backwards poet writes inverse.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 17 2013 09:04 GMT
#6393
Does anyone remember between which games it was when the fan with the Lovelin sign was on camera? I want to get a screengrab for fanclub but scraping this whole day of the stream gonna take forever.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
September 17 2013 09:05 GMT
#6394
The one thing I would glean from these games: LoL competitive =/= BW competitive.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
thefreed
Profile Joined January 2011
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 09:17:17
September 17 2013 09:14 GMT
#6395
My country is the world, My religion is to do good. -T.P The fool doth thinks his a wise man, but the wise man knows he is a fool. -W.S
thefreed
Profile Joined January 2011
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 09:18:37
September 17 2013 09:16 GMT
#6396

kinda getting a feeling this is all some conspiracy trying to make EU and NA look good.
I mean sktt1 and the second chinese team in group a.... and group B is much more stacked then A. but it's teams capable of beating each other.

Plus automatically getting 3 seeds for Worlds... If you win all stars you get 4. I mean with this format... I think it's best to give every region that participates equal amounts of seed. Because we can't forget that TPA which is coming from not even Chinese league or any of the big leagues out there won last year.

Maybe they should've had a seed for last year's champion.

If we do it by champions league style, where we have league points and who ever performed good in world's or other international competitions have more seeds... Then it would give those leagues with 1 or 2 seeds like... basically no chance bringing that seed level higher... So that isn't fair...

But if we keep this seed amount static then if NA or EU wins all stars they get 4 seeds and all the others get 2 or less.

But EU, NA and Korea has 3 seeds so, if China or some other team comes out on top... that will be really funny to see. But I don't think C9 will be that good as everyone think they're going to be... I think Royal Club and Gamania Bears are so unknown that they're going to have some shocks coming quarter finals.

One defense I have for Koreans teams and there meta is that... because they're so noticed that whenever one of their mains or champs play well for a extended series it always gets nerfed.

I mean Dade had most of his champions nerfed, Zac got nerfed ( I agree with the zac nerf though)...

But regions like SEA, CHINA etc... get like no recognition, so even though they have some op champ mains... They still get to keep them?
My country is the world, My religion is to do good. -T.P The fool doth thinks his a wise man, but the wise man knows he is a fool. -W.S
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
September 17 2013 09:23 GMT
#6397
Ozone needs to target ban mid champ so that dade can have his Zed, Ezreal, or TF. They need some wins before they are comfortable and confident enough to play other champs.
nikuniku
Profile Joined August 2013
212 Posts
September 17 2013 09:29 GMT
#6398

Zac nerfs really hurt SKT T1. Impact's best champion is arguably Zac and now teams don't even have to bother to waste a ban on it. Also, the fact that Corki + Triforce is super popular hurts Piglet as well since Corki and most good Triforce users aren't female. Corki counters (Kog and Graves) are also all male and since Corki is a must pick/ban, Piglet is screwedddd. On a more serious note, I think the EU and perhaps NA teams have a slight edge in the bot lane since they've been around longer and have seen Corki at the height of his popularity and can probably adapt/deal with Corki much better than the Koreans who basically have never played with a powerful Corki.


Pardon my ignorance of the Korean scene, what's being male or female has to do with Piglet?

As for Corki, wasn't CJ Frost the second of S2 when Corki was pretty good at that time?
nikuniku
Profile Joined August 2013
212 Posts
September 17 2013 09:31 GMT
#6399
On September 17 2013 17:16 NatusPrinceps wrote:
i will get so much lols out of all the wagon hopping that will take place if ozone ends up winning the whole tournament


They might have the skills for it, but apparently they were hiding it from themselves in the past two days.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 09:50:42
September 17 2013 09:49 GMT
#6400
You know, I really don't know if it's the koreans that were overhyped or just ozone. Of course, everyone naturally stepped up their game and adapted their playstyle a lot to accomodate for their opponents, but regardless of small champion pool or not, ozone has been incredibly disappointing in their play. Not to take credit away from Gambit, Fnatic, or Vulcan who gave them a tough time, but it seems like they're making so many misplays and decisions.

Call it what you will, but I really don't ever remember Ozone playing this badly. The fact that mata died to Gambit's bot lane 2v2 speaks a lot to me. That wasn't genja and voidle outplaying them, but rather mata making a really terrible mistake when he had absolutely no damage to finish off the sona. Then there were today's games against fnatic where Dade roamed top pre 6 (wtf?) and Dandy dived the tower for a kill when he was bound to die 100% if he did and hoped to just trade 1 for 1 when he could've backed.

Obviously, even korean players are capable of playing terribly, having bad decisions, missing skillshots, etc., but these were mindblowingly bad plays in particular. I don't think replacing Homme was as big of a factor as people make it out to be though. Obviously Ozone had good reasons for this and Homme was probably not performing well before Worlds. It also isn't just Dade either at this point and you really can't pin everything on him when the other lanes start to lose.

But leading into this it wasn't just OGN fans that thought korea was the best region, but all the pros who watched the games were impressed. They said they were beatable, but they considered them the favorites. Not just this but Ozone had really good scrim records against OMG and Lemondogs and felt confident going into the group stages.

I guess we'll see how SKT holds up tomorrow as their loss and early game disadvantage against lemondogs were excusable and Lovelin made some really big plays to answer Faker. SKT really shouldn't have as many excuses as Ozone does for their terrible performance here.

In any case, I don't expect Ozone to recover mentally. They look broken, their coach is now coaching dota, and their mentality was just terrible coming into this. They didn't show enough respect for their opponents and once they started losing they became frustrated and started playing worse and worse because they thought they were far above their opponents.
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