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On September 17 2013 16:32 Pinith wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 16:30 TheYango wrote: Something that leaves a somewhat bad taste in my mouth:
Judging from the way they've drafted, it feels like EU on the whole has the best handle on how to play this version--comfortable with the relevant champs/playstyles/etc. This doesn't feel like a coincidence to me when EU Regionals finished earlier than the other regions, and they got the most time to practice the patch. All the other regions had their #1 seeded and are only playing the group stages with their #2/#3 teams. EU should be doing better Najin Sword is not #1 in Korea tbh though.
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On September 17 2013 16:30 TheYango wrote: Something that leaves a somewhat bad taste in my mouth:
Judging from the way they've drafted, it feels like EU on the whole has the best handle on how to play this version--comfortable with the relevant champs/playstyles/etc. This doesn't feel like a coincidence to me when EU Regionals finished earlier than the other regions, and they got the most time to practice the patch. I don't think more time to practice is helping as much as the patch simply fits the European teams styles.
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It's fucking impossible to get a game going on NA server right now.
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United States47024 Posts
On September 17 2013 16:32 Pinith wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 16:30 TheYango wrote: Something that leaves a somewhat bad taste in my mouth:
Judging from the way they've drafted, it feels like EU on the whole has the best handle on how to play this version--comfortable with the relevant champs/playstyles/etc. This doesn't feel like a coincidence to me when EU Regionals finished earlier than the other regions, and they got the most time to practice the patch. All the other regions had their #1 seeded and are only playing the group stages with their #2/#3 teams. EU should be doing better regardless of the patch timing I don't care about results, I'm talking about how comfortable the teams seem playing 3.10a based on how they're drafting.
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Suggesting that they'd go out of their way and take such risk out of some bullshit region-solidarity is downright delusional.
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On September 17 2013 16:33 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 16:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: But honestly did anyone else feel like Gambit threw on purpose to give EU #1 and 2 in the B group? And did Gambit throw the Spring Split finals on purpose? Did they throw every game against Fnatic in the Summer Split because they oh so generously wanted Fnatic to get the #1 seed to worlds? If a weaker team beats a stronger team once, you can possibly say things like "throw on purpose," but when one team has consistently beaten the other over the course of the last half year, not even dropping a single game, don't even dare suggest that. Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaa there take it easy I wasn't insulting anyone, it just seemed like really questionable picks and multiple bad calls/shyvana jumping into 5 people with no team behind her at inhib tower
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Like seriously for going 3-0 Gambit played like total shit that game and I think everyone is a bit surprised at how badly they comped.
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Like what the fuck your plan at level 3 is to dive two revive passive champs with escapes on abilities under tower in a 2v3 situation? THAT'S your plan?
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If Gambit really did "throw" then they're extremely arrogant and ballsy for counting Ozone out this early.
Ozone is very much capable of beating Gambit and Fnatic, even if they're on poor form as of right now.
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The baron attempt by gambit was their last chance to get back into the game. I also feel like Leona is really good vs the so-called linear champs Xin and Shyvana.
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On September 17 2013 16:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: But honestly did anyone else feel like Gambit threw on purpose to give EU #1 and 2 in the B group?
What? If the groups were only 1 round, then maybe you can say that. Even though Ozone played poorly, they are still a world class team. I don't think Gambit would risk it. Because if Ozone can 4-0 the next round. It will likely be Gambit v Fnatic for other spot.
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TBH Gambit's team comp lost the second that Genja had to back during the 3 man dive + Alex not getting Darien fed early. Shyvana needed to basically play like a Singed with relentless tower pressure would have worked really well with the open inhib) with Alex being able to punish anyone who tries to stop him.
Edit, and that is why they shouldn't have first picked TF, because that is just too easy to counter.
Also: That explanation is why Dlift was right + wrong about the comp. It wasn't a Teamfight comp, it was a brute force splitpush comp.
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And Fnatic isnt really a weaker team either. They are pretty equal to Gambit, if not slightly better normally. And they always beat Gambit. No way the Russians would do that.
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On September 17 2013 16:38 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Like what the fuck your plan at level 3 is to dive two revive passive champs with escapes on abilities under tower in a 2v3 situation? THAT'S your plan? I think counting Ozone out and throwing Fnatic a bone because you're confident Ozone won't win against you next time is just as stupid as a dive like that.
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On September 17 2013 16:27 Cubu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 16:22 ketchup wrote:On September 17 2013 16:21 Cubu wrote: i think gambit threw this game so only eu teams end up advancing. I mean who the hell plays shyv and xin in pro games/ The Chinese teams do. They also use support annie and fizz. Bad theory is bad. source? I occasionally watch chinese pro teams and i havent seen a single one with either of them
Some of the Royal games during round 2 of LPL summer. I think this Shyvanna did OK. She was 1/5 or something like that because first of all she is the tank line which soaks the damage, and Darien dived in a couple of times with no other team member backing her up. The game was lost because of Alex and Genja without doubt.
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On September 17 2013 16:35 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 16:33 Kiett wrote:On September 17 2013 16:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: But honestly did anyone else feel like Gambit threw on purpose to give EU #1 and 2 in the B group? And did Gambit throw the Spring Split finals on purpose? Did they throw every game against Fnatic in the Summer Split because they oh so generously wanted Fnatic to get the #1 seed to worlds? If a weaker team beats a stronger team once, you can possibly say things like "throw on purpose," but when one team has consistently beaten the other over the course of the last half year, not even dropping a single game, don't even dare suggest that. Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaa there take it easy I wasn't insulting anyone, it just seemed like really questionable picks and multiple bad calls/shyvana jumping into 5 people with no team behind her at inhib tower
It would be incredibly stupid to throw with Samsung having the possibility to claim one of the top 2 spots. They're playing for a million dollars. TBH I think you're dumb for even suggesting it, LOL.
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On September 17 2013 16:40 NovaTheFeared wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 16:35 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On September 17 2013 16:33 Kiett wrote:On September 17 2013 16:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: But honestly did anyone else feel like Gambit threw on purpose to give EU #1 and 2 in the B group? And did Gambit throw the Spring Split finals on purpose? Did they throw every game against Fnatic in the Summer Split because they oh so generously wanted Fnatic to get the #1 seed to worlds? If a weaker team beats a stronger team once, you can possibly say things like "throw on purpose," but when one team has consistently beaten the other over the course of the last half year, not even dropping a single game, don't even dare suggest that. Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaa there take it easy I wasn't insulting anyone, it just seemed like really questionable picks and multiple bad calls/shyvana jumping into 5 people with no team behind her at inhib tower It would be incredibly stupid to throw with Samsung having the possibility to claim one of the top 2 spots. They're playing for a million dollars. TBH I think you're dumb for even suggesting it, LOL. YOU'RE RIGHT
SORRY FOR BEING STUPID
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On September 17 2013 16:35 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 16:33 Kiett wrote:On September 17 2013 16:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: But honestly did anyone else feel like Gambit threw on purpose to give EU #1 and 2 in the B group? And did Gambit throw the Spring Split finals on purpose? Did they throw every game against Fnatic in the Summer Split because they oh so generously wanted Fnatic to get the #1 seed to worlds? If a weaker team beats a stronger team once, you can possibly say things like "throw on purpose," but when one team has consistently beaten the other over the course of the last half year, not even dropping a single game, don't even dare suggest that. Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaa there take it easy I wasn't insulting anyone, it just seemed like really questionable picks and multiple bad calls/shyvana jumping into 5 people with no team behind her at inhib tower When your immediate conclusion is that Fnatic won because Gambit basically match fixed, and not because they just had a bad game (or god forbid, Fnatic just played well), idk how you can expect me not to react poorly to that.
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That wasn't my fucking conclusion, I just asked if anyone felt a certain way. Goddamn you guys are sensitive.
Like just chill the fuck out holy shit, I'm sorry for offending you with my incredible stupidity and conversational posting. Jesus Christ if I knew it was going to give you herpes I wouldn't have stuck my dick in your mouth on accident.
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On September 17 2013 16:43 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: That wasn't my fucking conclusion, I just asked if anyone felt a certain way. Goddamn you guys are sensitive.
Like just chill the fuck out holy shit, I'm sorry for offending you with my incredible stupidity and conversational posting. Jesus Christ if I knew it was going to give you herpes I wouldn't have stuck my dick in your mouth on accident.
You need to calm down. You weren't the only one who thought this anyways. See:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19770506
and probably a few people on reddit that I don't feel like searching for.
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