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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
September 17 2013 07:27 GMT
#6321
On September 17 2013 16:27 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 16:22 ketchup wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:21 Cubu wrote:
i think gambit threw this game so only eu teams end up advancing. I mean who the hell plays shyv and xin in pro games/


The Chinese teams do. They also use support annie and fizz. Bad theory is bad.

source? I occasionally watch chinese pro teams and i havent seen a single one with either of them


Then i don't know what the fuck you're watching then LOL
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 17 2013 07:27 GMT
#6322
Regi vs. Faker

The hype is on.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
September 17 2013 07:28 GMT
#6323
On September 17 2013 16:23 Kiett wrote:
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On September 17 2013 16:21 ketchup wrote:
What surprised me the most is that at the end of the game, the top inhib for Fnatic was still up against a TF

well, you saw how quickly fnatic responded to seeing alex separated from the team. the time he was pushing bot, fnatic didnt hesitate, immediately jumping onto the rest of gambit and ripping them apart. granted, trying to BD an inhib might have provoked a more defensive reaction than the bottom inner turret, but i just don't think there was ever a great opportunity to try and take it.


Can't split push with TF if he's your only wave clear. Fnatic knew that they could push in waves way faster on both the other lanes when Alex was split pushing one.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 17 2013 07:28 GMT
#6324
But honestly did anyone else feel like Gambit threw on purpose to give EU #1 and 2 in the B group?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 17 2013 07:28 GMT
#6325
On September 17 2013 16:23 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 16:21 ketchup wrote:
What surprised me the most is that at the end of the game, the top inhib for Fnatic was still up against a TF

well, you saw how quickly fnatic responded to seeing alex separated from the team. the time he was pushing bot, fnatic didnt hesitate, immediately jumping onto the rest of gambit and ripping them apart. granted, trying to BD an inhib might have provoked a more defensive reaction than the bottom inner turret, but i just don't think there was ever a great opportunity to try and take it.


I agree there was definitely not a good time for Gambit/TF to take that inhib. They were pressured hard for a lot of the game, and they lost control of the bottom half of the map so early(when they traded the towers initially). It was still amazing to see how well/controlled Fnatic played here considering many other teams would feel very desperate losing that tower.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
September 17 2013 07:28 GMT
#6326
I'll be so sad if Ozone could not get into the quarter final

Maybe if we start calling them Samsung instead of Ozone, they'll do better.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9241 Posts
September 17 2013 07:29 GMT
#6327
On September 17 2013 16:27 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 16:22 ketchup wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:21 Cubu wrote:
i think gambit threw this game so only eu teams end up advancing. I mean who the hell plays shyv and xin in pro games/


The Chinese teams do. They also use support annie and fizz. Bad theory is bad.

source? I occasionally watch chinese pro teams and i havent seen a single one with either of them

http://lol.gamepedia.com/2013_LPL_Summer/Picks_and_Bans
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 07:29:58
September 17 2013 07:29 GMT
#6328
On September 17 2013 16:27 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 16:27 Cubu wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:22 ketchup wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:21 Cubu wrote:
i think gambit threw this game so only eu teams end up advancing. I mean who the hell plays shyv and xin in pro games/


The Chinese teams do. They also use support annie and fizz. Bad theory is bad.

source? I occasionally watch chinese pro teams and i havent seen a single one with either of them


Then i don't know what the fuck you're watching then LOL

looking at the past matches in leaguepedia, shyvana got 1 pick and xin 0 in the playoffs. Thats hardly convincing.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
September 17 2013 07:29 GMT
#6329
On September 17 2013 16:27 Fionn wrote:
Regi vs. Faker

The hype is on.

Dooblelift took the words right outta my mouth
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 07:31:24
September 17 2013 07:30 GMT
#6330
Something that leaves a somewhat bad taste in my mouth:

Judging from the way they've drafted, it feels like EU on the whole has the best handle on how to play this version--comfortable with the relevant champs/playstyles/etc. This doesn't feel like a coincidence to me when EU Regionals finished earlier than the other regions, and they got the most time to practice the patch.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 17 2013 07:30 GMT
#6331
On September 17 2013 16:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
But honestly did anyone else feel like Gambit threw on purpose to give EU #1 and 2 in the B group?

iunno if they threw, but they definitely played below standard. Alex's TF is just so..bad. Diamond's Xin pick was terrible but it certainly didn't help :\
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 07:31:39
September 17 2013 07:30 GMT
#6332
On September 17 2013 16:27 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 16:22 ketchup wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:21 Cubu wrote:
i think gambit threw this game so only eu teams end up advancing. I mean who the hell plays shyv and xin in pro games/


The Chinese teams do. They also use support annie and fizz. Bad theory is bad.

source? I occasionally watch chinese pro teams and i havent seen a single one with either of them


Royal Club is famous for Support Annie + Fizz Mid picks. They did it in the Qualifiers.

Here's a google search result:

http://www.gosugamers.net/lol/features/3391-lpl-w4d1-the-rise-of-shyvana-and-misaya-s-mortal-tf

I guess this is best source though:

On September 17 2013 16:29 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 16:27 Cubu wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:22 ketchup wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:21 Cubu wrote:
i think gambit threw this game so only eu teams end up advancing. I mean who the hell plays shyv and xin in pro games/


The Chinese teams do. They also use support annie and fizz. Bad theory is bad.

source? I occasionally watch chinese pro teams and i havent seen a single one with either of them

http://lol.gamepedia.com/2013_LPL_Summer/Picks_and_Bans

O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
September 17 2013 07:30 GMT
#6333
On September 17 2013 16:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
But honestly did anyone else feel like Gambit threw on purpose to give EU #1 and 2 in the B group?


I do notice Gambit's decision making was subpar, but aside from draft the bad calls came after Alex had to pause. He's also their shotcaller, so it might be just that.

Fan of the Jangbanger
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
September 17 2013 07:30 GMT
#6334
On September 17 2013 16:27 Fionn wrote:
Regi vs. Faker

The hype is on.


Monkey v. God

Evolution v. Creationism.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 17 2013 07:31 GMT
#6335
On September 17 2013 16:29 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 16:27 Cubu wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:22 ketchup wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:21 Cubu wrote:
i think gambit threw this game so only eu teams end up advancing. I mean who the hell plays shyv and xin in pro games/


The Chinese teams do. They also use support annie and fizz. Bad theory is bad.

source? I occasionally watch chinese pro teams and i havent seen a single one with either of them

http://lol.gamepedia.com/2013_LPL_Summer/Picks_and_Bans

Shyvana picks dropped off after China got 3.10/3.10a. She was used a fair bit more in 3.09, but Spirit Visage and Triforce didn't help her as much as other top laners.
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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 17 2013 07:32 GMT
#6336
On September 17 2013 16:31 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 16:29 Dan HH wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:27 Cubu wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:22 ketchup wrote:
On September 17 2013 16:21 Cubu wrote:
i think gambit threw this game so only eu teams end up advancing. I mean who the hell plays shyv and xin in pro games/


The Chinese teams do. They also use support annie and fizz. Bad theory is bad.

source? I occasionally watch chinese pro teams and i havent seen a single one with either of them

http://lol.gamepedia.com/2013_LPL_Summer/Picks_and_Bans

Shyvana picks dropped off after China got 3.10/3.10a. She was used a fair bit more in 3.09, but Spirit Visage and Triforce didn't help her as much as other top laners.


I'm still waiting on the Jax picks for Worlds. Yango please make it happen.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
September 17 2013 07:32 GMT
#6337
On September 17 2013 16:30 Apex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 16:27 Fionn wrote:
Regi vs. Faker

The hype is on.


Monkey v. God

Evolution v. Creationism.

LOL hahahaha
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 17 2013 07:32 GMT
#6338
On September 17 2013 16:30 TheYango wrote:
Something that leaves a somewhat bad taste in my mouth:

Judging from the way they've drafted, it feels like EU on the whole has the best handle on how to play this version--comfortable with the relevant champs/playstyles/etc. This doesn't feel like a coincidence to me when EU Regionals finished earlier than the other regions, and they got the most time to practice the patch.


Seems legit.

And, couldnt Riot use like some classical music instead of the syth BS? Its not like Mozart and Beethoven are still copyrighted.
Freeeeeeedom
Pinith
Profile Joined September 2010
651 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 07:33:33
September 17 2013 07:32 GMT
#6339
On September 17 2013 16:30 TheYango wrote:
Something that leaves a somewhat bad taste in my mouth:

Judging from the way they've drafted, it feels like EU on the whole has the best handle on how to play this version--comfortable with the relevant champs/playstyles/etc. This doesn't feel like a coincidence to me when EU Regionals finished earlier than the other regions, and they got the most time to practice the patch.


All the other regions had their #1 seeded and are only playing the group stages with their #2/#3 teams. EU should be doing better regardless of the patch timing
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 07:33:53
September 17 2013 07:33 GMT
#6340
On September 17 2013 16:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
But honestly did anyone else feel like Gambit threw on purpose to give EU #1 and 2 in the B group?

And did Gambit throw the Spring Split finals on purpose? Did they throw every game against Fnatic in the Summer Split because they oh so generously wanted Fnatic to get the #1 seed to worlds?

If a weaker team beats a stronger team once, you can possibly say things like "throw on purpose," but when one team has consistently beaten the other over the course of the last half year, not even dropping a single game, don't even dare suggest that.
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