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Painmaker
Profile Joined December 2010
Uruguay230 Posts
August 16 2013 13:47 GMT
#941
On August 16 2013 22:43 AsnSensation wrote:
would be funny of it's both Gambit and TSM going 5:0, the original champions of their respective continents!

Fnatic won last split, not gambit
It's a good day to die
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
August 16 2013 13:47 GMT
#942
oldschool look on gambit, roflstomping from beggining to ending
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 16 2013 13:49 GMT
#943
--- Nuked ---
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51461 Posts
August 16 2013 13:49 GMT
#944
dat confidence
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 16 2013 13:50 GMT
#945
After that level 2 it's pretty hard to get back into the game. Honestly I thought EG had a really nice global comp that could destroy eve/TF ganks if they fought 4v4.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 16 2013 13:50 GMT
#946
He should have sung something in Russian. The classic Happy Birthday is really annoying.
Off-season = best season
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 16 2013 13:50 GMT
#947
On August 16 2013 22:47 Painmaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 22:43 AsnSensation wrote:
would be funny of it's both Gambit and TSM going 5:0, the original champions of their respective continents!

Fnatic won last split, not gambit


not talking about last split, but S2 ^^ sry didn't make that clear
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
August 16 2013 13:54 GMT
#948
Alex better not sing anymore ^_^
Pure fan
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 16 2013 13:55 GMT
#949
On August 16 2013 22:54 PaleMan wrote:
Alex better not sing anymore ^_^


All glass in and around my house broke, but that was sweet man.
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
August 16 2013 13:58 GMT
#950
On August 16 2013 22:46 Tula wrote:
Frankly I wouldn't blame Snoopeh for that level 2 death. Why in all blazes of hell didn't they place a single ward to protect that blue? Hell why would they draft a nasus against eve in the first place (frankly there are few chars which can duel eve at 1-3 but nasus certainly isn't it).

All in all that was a completle trainwreck after the start. Shen/Nasus is not a strong early game by any means, but the way they played it out it was simply a lost cause.

Froggen also didn't have any impact on that game. Yesterday when they were behind his Ahri was strong enought to keep them in the game, but the "ramping up" Kassa build cannot do the same (esp. if you waste your teleport in a situation that you cannot win).

Still shocked that EG drafted so badly. There wasn't a single char on Gambits side which is disabled by wither. Genja doesn't autoattack anyway, Eve can remove the slow and spams hatespikes, zac doesnt auto etc. The lulu/vayne bot lane also didn't impress.

In closing I feel as if i was back in week 2 where EG was failing all around and didn't have any plan whatsoever for their games.


I don't think EG expected Gambit to take out Zac, and Snoopeh fell into Nasus because J4 was also banned.

Kass was an alright pick, but EG was lacking in wave clear. Gambit also ended the laning phase so fast that he was unable to do the things Kass is really good at, and Nasus was too far behind to delay towers from falling.
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
August 16 2013 13:59 GMT
#951
On August 16 2013 22:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
After that level 2 it's pretty hard to get back into the game. Honestly I thought EG had a really nice global comp that could destroy eve/TF ganks if they fought 4v4.

Maybe but what exactly does the Nasus bring to that? For that matter how is the Nasus supposed to jungle against an Eve which can basically 1v1 him from level 1onwards?

Their teamcomp was meant to reach lategame (where they would be rather strong) but they didn't have a single champion with a strong earlygame to actually protect them until that lategame arrives. You can draft 3 "farming" lanes like they did, but if they do that their jungler better be able to 1v1 strongly in the jungle. If they had had a strong jungler like Elise or Lee Sin (not saying that Snoopeh is necessarily good on those) their lanes would have made sense. With Nasus who cannot even protect his own jungle it was a trainwreck waiting to happen.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 14:03:26
August 16 2013 14:02 GMT
#952
On August 16 2013 22:59 Tula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 22:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
After that level 2 it's pretty hard to get back into the game. Honestly I thought EG had a really nice global comp that could destroy eve/TF ganks if they fought 4v4.

Maybe but what exactly does the Nasus bring to that? For that matter how is the Nasus supposed to jungle against an Eve which can basically 1v1 him from level 1onwards?

Their teamcomp was meant to reach lategame (where they would be rather strong) but they didn't have a single champion with a strong earlygame to actually protect them until that lategame arrives. You can draft 3 "farming" lanes like they did, but if they do that their jungler better be able to 1v1 strongly in the jungle. If they had had a strong jungler like Elise or Lee Sin (not saying that Snoopeh is necessarily good on those) their lanes would have made sense. With Nasus who cannot even protect his own jungle it was a trainwreck waiting to happen.

He is good at holding towers though so he could have helped to prolong laning phase if he didnt fall that far behind. I agree though that his Wither was rather useless against the GG comp.

Btw generally it would be cool if people could make this kind of posts after the picks and not after the game.
Off-season = best season
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
August 16 2013 14:04 GMT
#953
On August 16 2013 22:58 Lounge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 22:46 Tula wrote:
Frankly I wouldn't blame Snoopeh for that level 2 death. Why in all blazes of hell didn't they place a single ward to protect that blue? Hell why would they draft a nasus against eve in the first place (frankly there are few chars which can duel eve at 1-3 but nasus certainly isn't it).

All in all that was a completle trainwreck after the start. Shen/Nasus is not a strong early game by any means, but the way they played it out it was simply a lost cause.

Froggen also didn't have any impact on that game. Yesterday when they were behind his Ahri was strong enought to keep them in the game, but the "ramping up" Kassa build cannot do the same (esp. if you waste your teleport in a situation that you cannot win).

Still shocked that EG drafted so badly. There wasn't a single char on Gambits side which is disabled by wither. Genja doesn't autoattack anyway, Eve can remove the slow and spams hatespikes, zac doesnt auto etc. The lulu/vayne bot lane also didn't impress.

In closing I feel as if i was back in week 2 where EG was failing all around and didn't have any plan whatsoever for their games.


I don't think EG expected Gambit to take out Zac, and Snoopeh fell into Nasus because J4 was also banned.

Kass was an alright pick, but EG was lacking in wave clear. Gambit also ended the laning phase so fast that he was unable to do the things Kass is really good at, and Nasus was too far behind to delay towers from falling.


Maybe, but they should have changed their draft drastically with Nasus in the jungle. Heck for that matter they should have warded at least a bit deeper to protect themselves against the early eve. They had options they could have used to make life safer during the first 3 levels (put bot lane top to help protect the blue after red start, pink ward the banana bush on the way to blue, have shen "help" the first 3 camps in the jungle since he can't reach the minions in the lane anyway, heck go for a full on invade on diamonds blue with 3 guys if they want to leave the duo lane bot), instead they went 100% standard with wicked wasting his time top doing nothing and got read like a book and demolished.

Simply disappointing.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
August 16 2013 14:04 GMT
#954
On August 16 2013 23:02 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 22:59 Tula wrote:
On August 16 2013 22:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
After that level 2 it's pretty hard to get back into the game. Honestly I thought EG had a really nice global comp that could destroy eve/TF ganks if they fought 4v4.

Maybe but what exactly does the Nasus bring to that? For that matter how is the Nasus supposed to jungle against an Eve which can basically 1v1 him from level 1onwards?

Their teamcomp was meant to reach lategame (where they would be rather strong) but they didn't have a single champion with a strong earlygame to actually protect them until that lategame arrives. You can draft 3 "farming" lanes like they did, but if they do that their jungler better be able to 1v1 strongly in the jungle. If they had had a strong jungler like Elise or Lee Sin (not saying that Snoopeh is necessarily good on those) their lanes would have made sense. With Nasus who cannot even protect his own jungle it was a trainwreck waiting to happen.

He is good at holding towers though so he could have helped to prolong laning phase if he didnt fall that far behind. I agree though that his Wither was rather useless against the GG comp.

Btw generally it would be cool if people could make this kind of posts after the picks and not after the game.

It's much easier to criticize something after it has failed.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
August 16 2013 14:05 GMT
#955
On August 16 2013 23:02 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 22:59 Tula wrote:
On August 16 2013 22:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
After that level 2 it's pretty hard to get back into the game. Honestly I thought EG had a really nice global comp that could destroy eve/TF ganks if they fought 4v4.

Maybe but what exactly does the Nasus bring to that? For that matter how is the Nasus supposed to jungle against an Eve which can basically 1v1 him from level 1onwards?

Their teamcomp was meant to reach lategame (where they would be rather strong) but they didn't have a single champion with a strong earlygame to actually protect them until that lategame arrives. You can draft 3 "farming" lanes like they did, but if they do that their jungler better be able to 1v1 strongly in the jungle. If they had had a strong jungler like Elise or Lee Sin (not saying that Snoopeh is necessarily good on those) their lanes would have made sense. With Nasus who cannot even protect his own jungle it was a trainwreck waiting to happen.

He is good at holding towers though so he could have helped to prolong laning phase if he didnt fall that far behind. I agree though that his Wither was rather useless against the GG comp.

Btw generally it would be cool if people could make this kind of posts after the picks and not after the game.

after the picks i'm watching the game not chatting
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 16 2013 14:13 GMT
#956
Pick comp for Alternate. They're going to get smashed if they play it as pick-oriented as they did yesterday against SK. >_>
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
August 16 2013 14:15 GMT
#957
Comments to the picks and bans of the next game:

I'm not 100% convinced how much the blitzcrank adds to the two dive champions of lyssandra and Vi, but in general I Like both themcomps. I guess it will depend heavily on what kind of pulls blitz manages. If he hooks tabbs lategame for an instant gibb that could win them the game right there, but on the flipside of that coin LD has a far strong teamfight if the hooks don't hit.
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
August 16 2013 14:17 GMT
#958
On August 16 2013 23:04 Tula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 22:58 Lounge wrote:
On August 16 2013 22:46 Tula wrote:
Frankly I wouldn't blame Snoopeh for that level 2 death. Why in all blazes of hell didn't they place a single ward to protect that blue? Hell why would they draft a nasus against eve in the first place (frankly there are few chars which can duel eve at 1-3 but nasus certainly isn't it).

All in all that was a completle trainwreck after the start. Shen/Nasus is not a strong early game by any means, but the way they played it out it was simply a lost cause.

Froggen also didn't have any impact on that game. Yesterday when they were behind his Ahri was strong enought to keep them in the game, but the "ramping up" Kassa build cannot do the same (esp. if you waste your teleport in a situation that you cannot win).

Still shocked that EG drafted so badly. There wasn't a single char on Gambits side which is disabled by wither. Genja doesn't autoattack anyway, Eve can remove the slow and spams hatespikes, zac doesnt auto etc. The lulu/vayne bot lane also didn't impress.

In closing I feel as if i was back in week 2 where EG was failing all around and didn't have any plan whatsoever for their games.


I don't think EG expected Gambit to take out Zac, and Snoopeh fell into Nasus because J4 was also banned.

Kass was an alright pick, but EG was lacking in wave clear. Gambit also ended the laning phase so fast that he was unable to do the things Kass is really good at, and Nasus was too far behind to delay towers from falling.


Maybe, but they should have changed their draft drastically with Nasus in the jungle. Heck for that matter they should have warded at least a bit deeper to protect themselves against the early eve. They had options they could have used to make life safer during the first 3 levels (put bot lane top to help protect the blue after red start, pink ward the banana bush on the way to blue, have shen "help" the first 3 camps in the jungle since he can't reach the minions in the lane anyway, heck go for a full on invade on diamonds blue with 3 guys if they want to leave the duo lane bot), instead they went 100% standard with wicked wasting his time top doing nothing and got read like a book and demolished.

Simply disappointing.


Yeah it went terrible for them, but I don't think it was entirely a teamcomp problem. It was a snowball off of really poor level 1 planing, whereas Gambit read EG like a book.

In fact I think the last game Gambit vs EG was almost entirely the same comp. Elise/J4/Twitch/Ori/Lulu vs Nami/Zac/Nasus/Vayne/Kass. They could have adapted to Gambits comp better but EG's picks by themselves weren't terrible, other than running the same composition two weeks in a row.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 16 2013 14:18 GMT
#959
Varus ult still most missed ability lol
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 14:28:32
August 16 2013 14:18 GMT
#960
Hook city baby.

Game feels kinda sloppy.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
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