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On July 27 2013 11:09 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 11:06 Lmui wrote:
Zuna is realistically not an LCS caliber AD carry. He might be good enough to AD for a brazil/oceania team though, he should start looking at those options. He's fine apart from his positioning, honestly. Also at this point, I don't think there's really anyone Vulcun could grab as an upgrade, unless Brunch comes out of retirement or something.
Being ~200 CS behind the other ad is not about positioning, hes just really subpar compared to the team he plays in.
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Well that game was a roller coaster of emotions
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On July 27 2013 11:09 BrownBear wrote:
He's fine apart from his positioning, honestly. Also at this point, I don't think there's really anyone Vulcun could grab as an upgrade, unless Brunch comes out of retirement or something.
He must play only hyper-carries because not only doesn't he know how to lane, but he has to stay alone in one lane for 20+ minutes each game just to have some farm (and fail to have a decent one most of the time anyway). His positioning is terrible too.
Only thing I love about him is he has balls bigger than his skill.
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On July 27 2013 11:08 daSilvaz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 11:07 Tula wrote:
sometimes I wonder if the casters watch the same games as we do. Yes we get it that you two are CLG fanboys but don't try to say CLG "won" this game through any genius plays, they won because Vulcun did their level best to throw it away, stupid decisions (oh we have two inhibs open and they are a man down, better tank up that mid turret) and because somehow Zuna has forgotten how to farm today.
Maybe its something about Twitch Cop did the same thing earlier where he just stopped farming at 200 CS and stalled completely. One team wins thanks to t he other's mistakes, thats how it goes. If everyone played prefectly games "would not end".
yeah but this game was all about who can throw harder. Links assassination attempt at the riverbush should have cost them the game, instead Vulcun threw right back even harder.
Granted Doublelift farmed his ass off and made that win possible by actually doing damage (think Zuna closed the game with 3.5 items (if you count zeal) compared to the Ezreal who had been at 6 items before his quadra kill teamfight). It just annoys me how incredibly biased the US casters are towards CLG and TSM, I've watched LCS with about 10 different people and every single one of them asked if there was something they were missing regarding those two teams or why the casters were praising them so hard.
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On July 27 2013 11:09 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 11:06 Lmui wrote:
Zuna is realistically not an LCS caliber AD carry. He might be good enough to AD for a brazil/oceania team though, he should start looking at those options. He's fine apart from his positioning, honestly. Also at this point, I don't think there's really anyone Vulcun could grab as an upgrade, unless Brunch comes out of retirement or something.
RobertxLee would be an upgrade I'd say, at least definitely worth a try for vulcun at this point. If it works out they have enough time left in the season to work on the team synergy going into playoffs.
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That mancloud positioning... how did he end up so far in front?
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On July 27 2013 11:09 TheLink wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 11:07 Tula wrote:
Maybe its something about Twitch Cop did the same thing earlier where he just stopped farming at 200 CS and stalled completely. It's a question of abilities and waveclear. You're basically fighting your own team for cs which Twitch can't do nearly as well as others AD's. They SHOULD be allocating their farm but people like to just wave-clear.
In SoloQ sure, unless someone specifically calls a wave its usually a free for all farmfest. But among Pros I'd kind of expect them to prioritize properly.
Granted I'm not challenger or even diamond but it seems fairly obvious to me that getting your twitch to 3 items (or letting him finish his IE asap as was the case with cop) should be at the very least the second highest priority you have.
Instead we had Saint taking farm in Cop's lane earlier and now we had Zuna trying to farm in a lane where mancloud instantly clears the casterminions.
That looked like silver level farm allocation to me.
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I only caught the end of the game, but it seemed to me like mancloud fucked up 10x as hard as zuna that game. He died in that team fight instantly and he was the most farmed player on their team.
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On July 27 2013 11:18 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I only caught the end of the game, but it seemed to me like mancloud fucked up 10x as hard as zuna that game. He died in that team fight instantly and he was the most farmed player on their team.
It's because we are not used to mancloud screwing up.
I can assure you Zuna did as bad as mancloud. You're just used to it.
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Man I love the understatement from the CRS/VES game * I'm going, I''m going, Maplestreet, they're dead* cuz it's literally what everyone else thought too.
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On July 27 2013 11:14 Neverhood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 11:09 BrownBear wrote:On July 27 2013 11:06 Lmui wrote:
Zuna is realistically not an LCS caliber AD carry. He might be good enough to AD for a brazil/oceania team though, he should start looking at those options. He's fine apart from his positioning, honestly. Also at this point, I don't think there's really anyone Vulcun could grab as an upgrade, unless Brunch comes out of retirement or something. RobertxLee would be an upgrade I'd say, at least definitely worth a try for vulcun at this point. If it works out they have enough time left in the season to work on the team synergy going into playoffs.
Isn't Robert still too young? Or was I just imagining that?
I guess they could always try fabbbyyy...
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On July 27 2013 11:09 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 11:06 Lmui wrote:
Zuna is realistically not an LCS caliber AD carry. He might be good enough to AD for a brazil/oceania team though, he should start looking at those options. He's fine apart from his positioning, honestly. Also at this point, I don't think there's really anyone Vulcun could grab as an upgrade, unless Brunch comes out of retirement or something.
APHROOOO
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On July 27 2013 11:21 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 11:14 Neverhood wrote:On July 27 2013 11:09 BrownBear wrote:On July 27 2013 11:06 Lmui wrote:
Zuna is realistically not an LCS caliber AD carry. He might be good enough to AD for a brazil/oceania team though, he should start looking at those options. He's fine apart from his positioning, honestly. Also at this point, I don't think there's really anyone Vulcun could grab as an upgrade, unless Brunch comes out of retirement or something. RobertxLee would be an upgrade I'd say, at least definitely worth a try for vulcun at this point. If it works out they have enough time left in the season to work on the team synergy going into playoffs. Isn't Robert still too young? Or was I just imagining that? I guess they could always try fabbbyyy...
Nah he's already a sub for vulcun, I personally think there's a decent chance of him to start next week tbh
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Well at least I didn't miss my precious NA LCS, thanks to that last game, I have my amount of throws, NA was playing really decently for the 11 previous games.
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On July 27 2013 11:21 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 11:14 Neverhood wrote:On July 27 2013 11:09 BrownBear wrote:On July 27 2013 11:06 Lmui wrote:
Zuna is realistically not an LCS caliber AD carry. He might be good enough to AD for a brazil/oceania team though, he should start looking at those options. He's fine apart from his positioning, honestly. Also at this point, I don't think there's really anyone Vulcun could grab as an upgrade, unless Brunch comes out of retirement or something. RobertxLee would be an upgrade I'd say, at least definitely worth a try for vulcun at this point. If it works out they have enough time left in the season to work on the team synergy going into playoffs. Isn't Robert still too young? Or was I just imagining that? I guess they could always try fabbbyyy...
I think The Gatekeeper is in Crs Academy.
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On July 27 2013 11:24 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 11:09 BrownBear wrote:On July 27 2013 11:06 Lmui wrote:
Zuna is realistically not an LCS caliber AD carry. He might be good enough to AD for a brazil/oceania team though, he should start looking at those options. He's fine apart from his positioning, honestly. Also at this point, I don't think there's really anyone Vulcun could grab as an upgrade, unless Brunch comes out of retirement or something. APHROOOO
Oh shit I totally forgot about Aphro! If they could convince him to come back that would be awesome, I miss him.
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On July 27 2013 11:27 BrownBear wrote:
Oh shit I totally forgot about Aphro! If they could convince him to come back that would be awesome, I miss him.
We can dream about it, but if it happens, I don't see that coming before next split sadly.
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I like aphro a lot but I doubt he'd be an upgrade over zuna at this point since he hasn't played AD competitively in ages.
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There's a handful of ADs in NA that'd probably be an upgrade over zuna
RobertxLee is the obvious one since he's already a sub for vulcun and an AD main but in all likelihood, pulling chaox, aphromoo or even grabbing someone like muruem out of the challenger ADs could be a potential upgrade.
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You guys know Zunas brother is the coach right?
E: don't mean that to sound condescending. I thought it was genuinely common knowledge though
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EPT
