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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#901
On July 01 2013 06:11 Sent. wrote:
Can someone explain to me Warmog's on Nami?

Because libik had to amuse himself during the 40 minutes of nothing.
Glorious SEA doto
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 19:10:08
July 01 2013 19:06 GMT
#902
Regarding the criticism of MYM because of the slow pace of their win against LD, this is what MYM Mokatte had to say on FB:


Few words about match against LD...

Right after match we heard opinions that we could finish that game 20 mins earlier, that we didnt realize how far behind LD players were, that we were too afraid of throwing the game and that some more experienced teams would use that against us and dealt with us properly thus winning the game. I call that bullshit.

Since 10th min we didnt make any mistake and we played that game the way we were supposed to. We did as much as LD players let us, but no more. If anyone of us would get caught out of posistion once, he would get insta killed within seconds. Our gold lead wouldnt matter that much then. We lacked engage in our setup and LD players tried to abuse it with deep camping in their base. If they went for straight fight, then we could win it earlier, but they didnt. We had to either take a dumb risks or easly but slowly make sure that we take next points in LCS. The part about more experienced teams that would abuse our yesterdays playstyle, I want to ask - how on earth would they do that?


And I fully agree with him. Already said similar stuff right after the game. There are no extra points for winning fast, or for winning in a spectacular fashion. MYM played this like they were supposed to, winning it safely and making sure not to throw.

Games like some of the recent NA LCS games with throws back and forth may be more entertaining to watch, but it is surely not better play.
Off-season = best season
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 01 2013 19:38 GMT
#903
On July 02 2013 04:06 Redox wrote:
Regarding the criticism of MYM because of the slow pace of their win against LD, this is what MYM Mokatte had to say on FB:

Show nested quote +

Few words about match against LD...

Right after match we heard opinions that we could finish that game 20 mins earlier, that we didnt realize how far behind LD players were, that we were too afraid of throwing the game and that some more experienced teams would use that against us and dealt with us properly thus winning the game. I call that bullshit.

Since 10th min we didnt make any mistake and we played that game the way we were supposed to. We did as much as LD players let us, but no more. If anyone of us would get caught out of posistion once, he would get insta killed within seconds. Our gold lead wouldnt matter that much then. We lacked engage in our setup and LD players tried to abuse it with deep camping in their base. If they went for straight fight, then we could win it earlier, but they didnt. We had to either take a dumb risks or easly but slowly make sure that we take next points in LCS. The part about more experienced teams that would abuse our yesterdays playstyle, I want to ask - how on earth would they do that?


And I fully agree with him. Already said similar stuff right after the game. There are no extra points for winning fast, or for winning in a spectacular fashion. MYM played this like they were supposed to, winning it safely and making sure not to throw.

Games like some of the recent NA LCS games with throws back and forth may be more entertaining to watch, but it is surely not better play.

Dunno if Europe is playing better actually, the level doesn't seem quite high. Besides if you want to watch high level better watch Koreans.
LCS EU used to be really interesting and fun to watch but ever since this season started there were less good games than fingers in one hand...
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 01 2013 19:45 GMT
#904
On July 02 2013 04:38 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 04:06 Redox wrote:
Regarding the criticism of MYM because of the slow pace of their win against LD, this is what MYM Mokatte had to say on FB:


Few words about match against LD...

Right after match we heard opinions that we could finish that game 20 mins earlier, that we didnt realize how far behind LD players were, that we were too afraid of throwing the game and that some more experienced teams would use that against us and dealt with us properly thus winning the game. I call that bullshit.

Since 10th min we didnt make any mistake and we played that game the way we were supposed to. We did as much as LD players let us, but no more. If anyone of us would get caught out of posistion once, he would get insta killed within seconds. Our gold lead wouldnt matter that much then. We lacked engage in our setup and LD players tried to abuse it with deep camping in their base. If they went for straight fight, then we could win it earlier, but they didnt. We had to either take a dumb risks or easly but slowly make sure that we take next points in LCS. The part about more experienced teams that would abuse our yesterdays playstyle, I want to ask - how on earth would they do that?


And I fully agree with him. Already said similar stuff right after the game. There are no extra points for winning fast, or for winning in a spectacular fashion. MYM played this like they were supposed to, winning it safely and making sure not to throw.

Games like some of the recent NA LCS games with throws back and forth may be more entertaining to watch, but it is surely not better play.

Dunno if Europe is playing better actually, the level doesn't seem quite high. Besides if you want to watch high level better watch Koreans.
LCS EU used to be really interesting and fun to watch but ever since this season started there were less good games than fingers in one hand...

Be that as it may. This is a matter of opinion anyway and not what I was primarily getting at.

Just saying the criticism of MYM for how they finished the game was bullshit. Maybe I can understand viewers being bored, but casters calling their play bad was just total nonsense. And Jason Kaplan is really annoying in how he thinks he knows what he is talking about while he is actually clueless as fuck.
Off-season = best season
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 01 2013 19:47 GMT
#905
I noticed that Kaplan freqeuently hands out the sickest burns to the players and criticizing them at least once a week.

remember when he said that yamato canon basically can't play any champion and Deman had to stop him from continuing to bash?
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 01 2013 20:07 GMT
#906
On July 02 2013 04:45 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 04:38 Lylat wrote:
On July 02 2013 04:06 Redox wrote:
Regarding the criticism of MYM because of the slow pace of their win against LD, this is what MYM Mokatte had to say on FB:


Few words about match against LD...

Right after match we heard opinions that we could finish that game 20 mins earlier, that we didnt realize how far behind LD players were, that we were too afraid of throwing the game and that some more experienced teams would use that against us and dealt with us properly thus winning the game. I call that bullshit.

Since 10th min we didnt make any mistake and we played that game the way we were supposed to. We did as much as LD players let us, but no more. If anyone of us would get caught out of posistion once, he would get insta killed within seconds. Our gold lead wouldnt matter that much then. We lacked engage in our setup and LD players tried to abuse it with deep camping in their base. If they went for straight fight, then we could win it earlier, but they didnt. We had to either take a dumb risks or easly but slowly make sure that we take next points in LCS. The part about more experienced teams that would abuse our yesterdays playstyle, I want to ask - how on earth would they do that?


And I fully agree with him. Already said similar stuff right after the game. There are no extra points for winning fast, or for winning in a spectacular fashion. MYM played this like they were supposed to, winning it safely and making sure not to throw.

Games like some of the recent NA LCS games with throws back and forth may be more entertaining to watch, but it is surely not better play.

Dunno if Europe is playing better actually, the level doesn't seem quite high. Besides if you want to watch high level better watch Koreans.
LCS EU used to be really interesting and fun to watch but ever since this season started there were less good games than fingers in one hand...

Be that as it may. This is a matter of opinion anyway and not what I was primarily getting at.

Just saying the criticism of MYM for how they finished the game was bullshit. Maybe I can understand viewers being bored, but casters calling their play bad was just total nonsense. And Jason Kaplan is really annoying in how he thinks he knows what he is talking about while he is actually clueless as fuck.

Yeah I reacted too fast at the end of your post and then realized that the point of your post was Mokatte comment which I also agree with, my bad !
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 02 2013 00:02 GMT
#907
Are the vods really sketchy for anyone else?
Freeeeeeedom
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4736 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 07:00:23
July 02 2013 05:56 GMT
#908
People judge level of plays on different servers and they are so confident in their convictions. This is troubling for me, as there is very little cross server play. Its really hard to judge in my opinion. Until we can see those teams in several cross server torunaments its hard to judge. Right now for me velocity might be better than alternate, and nip might be better than c9. Not enough data to decide if You ask me.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Innuendo
Profile Joined June 2007
Belgium616 Posts
July 14 2013 16:19 GMT
#909
aatrox and udyr ban
Bisu fan, may the revolutionist return
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