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caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
July 01 2013 21:29 GMT
#2341
ayo, could of is more colloquial, ya heard?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2013 22:09 GMT
#2342
On July 02 2013 02:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
Jiji should really consider building some sort of damage item, esp on a champion like Nocturne (DARKNESSSSSS).
I mean yes, I realize that he would have died at Dragon if he didn't go full tank but there have been plenty of times where his paltry auto attacks just make any CLG fan cringe. He's gotten pretty lucky so far and manage to get that last hit into whenever he needs it but still...
BC is probably his best choice? Gives him what he needs on the offensive end and CDR+HP. BC plz jiji.

Jesus, fucking, christ, Doublelift. I guess for every 9 games he carries CLG, the team has to carry him at least once. Real dora the explorer mode (it honestly look like he a-moved into 4 TSM at one point in the game) and Omen build against Karthus, Kennen, Varus? wei2coolman suggest Warmog's but I think Banshee's would have been better. But ffs, Omen?!
/sigh

To be honest; considering how Dora the Explorer DL went that game; no amount of defensive items would've saved him.
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 01 2013 22:17 GMT
#2343
Werd. But assuming he didn't go full retard...
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 22:48:30
July 01 2013 22:46 GMT
#2344
What supports do lemonnation play? Janna seems like a confusing pick considering their team-comp.

EDIT: And i just realized i was watching the games from yesterday... gg
hi
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 01 2013 23:34 GMT
#2345
MLG might have been a little slow on their VoDs, but man this 1080p is nice. Sometimes we're lucky if Riot's day after VoDs are in 480 zzz.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2013 23:36 GMT
#2346
On July 02 2013 08:34 onlywonderboy wrote:
MLG might have been a little slow on their VoDs, but man this 1080p is nice. Sometimes we're lucky if Riot's day after VoDs are in 480 zzz.

Uploading takes forever; all that transcoding and stuff. I can't believe I missed Curse vs Coast, and Vulcan vs C9; gotta watch those 2.
liftlift > tsm
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
July 02 2013 00:45 GMT
#2347
watching league in higher than 480 seems weird to me, I like playing on lowest graphics settings tho... so go figure.
Deftscythe
Profile Joined February 2011
United States228 Posts
July 02 2013 04:20 GMT
#2348
Anyone have numbers for concurrent viewers this weekend? I didn't get to watch live so I never saw.
1godless
Profile Joined August 2011
United States247 Posts
July 02 2013 05:03 GMT
#2349
TSM, that hurt... now I feel for all the curse and dig fans
The enemy's throne is down
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 07:08:40
July 02 2013 07:07 GMT
#2350
On July 02 2013 05:29 Sandster wrote:
Dyrus basically had to land a Q through spiders before even thinking about engaging. He was trying to but couldn't get it. Rappel would completely screw over Kennen's ult; there was no way Kennen wins a 1v1 without landing a Q before going in.



just watched the match again vs Nien and dyrus. The first inhib was gone after dyrus backed to pick up void staff, but when he engaged he never landed a Q on Nien and just went in with auto attack (W passive on it) and ulti and he took Nien. After that he did a nice flash on him and landed the Q and he killed him to get the GA passive. But then he didnt hide in the bush but went to attack the spiders and by that he lost 20%HP after the zhonya's thats why he even lost it vs Nien.

But there is just a problem in communication that always have been in TSM and maybe not enough experience to close out these kind of games and some unluck. And still a confidence problem maybe with himself in those close games or champions.
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
July 02 2013 11:47 GMT
#2351
Anyone knows how big the live crowd was at the TSM CLG game?

It sounded amazing and crazy (guess the US lvie crowd factor also made a difference, but still it sounded massive on the stream), gives such good atmosphere to the games.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
July 02 2013 11:56 GMT
#2352
relevant:
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22519 Posts
July 02 2013 12:17 GMT
#2353
On July 02 2013 05:05 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 04:36 Lylat wrote:
On July 02 2013 03:31 ExoFun wrote:
So not enough knowledge from Dyrus point of view and pretty much pretty bad game knowledge from Reggie. But still you don't need to relay on your team calls. You got a brain and as a professional LoL player you need to make your own decision and take responsibility for that, otherwise its so fucking simple to always give somebody else the fault.

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Yeah that's pretty much it. I remember when I watched Nien destroying 2 inhibs and Dyrus staying behind I was like "wtf dude just go in !" but he only attacked once both inhibs were down... Too bad for TSM

I reeeeally don't think Dyrus could take down Nien 1v1. Nien was essentially at full life by the time the 2nd inhib died, which was when Dyrus finally landed his stun combo to take him down to half. Had Dyrus engaged before then, he would die so quickly if Nien just focused him. And not to mention Nien still had GA up and as you saw before he died, Nien in Zhonyas took down Dyrus from full to half HP JUST from his autoattacking spiders. I think if Dyrus fought Nien before the nexus went down, he'd have died trying to kill Nien (may or may not lose GA) and Nien would continue pushing down the main or recall and save his base.


The thing is if Nien took those inhibs TSM would not win. 1 Nexus Tower and 3 dead inhibs means you have to stay in your base the entire time unless you go 5 kills for 1. By not engaging he already throw the game. Dying to Nien would have only made them lose 30 seconds faster while there was a greater then 0% chance he would come out ahead.

Waiting meant he took no chance to win over a small chance to win.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 02 2013 18:13 GMT
#2354
Rewatched TSM vs CLG; Thinking how things would've worked out had TSM chosen to do 2v1; lanes. They risk Doublelift getting fed; but I don't think that would be all that relevant; considering how fast DL got to 6 items in the 2v2 lane anyways (and how cheap Urgot's build is in comparison to traditional ADC builds). Considering that Kennen's 1v2 is pretty strong; and Elise's is a bit weaker; I think TSM could have had much easier time against CLG had they done the lane swaps.
liftlift > tsm
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 02 2013 19:49 GMT
#2355
I think they wanted to 2v1 by trying to mindgame CLG into thinking they would swap so they didn't swap? Doesn't make sense to me that they would go into a 2v2 lane vs an Urgot.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 19:54:14
July 02 2013 19:52 GMT
#2356
I don't think kennen's 1v2 against urgot is strong enough to compensate for elise's slightly weaker 1v2 against "not urgot"

Urgot's ability to harass you under your tower is really strong. At least by 2v2ing it, they get sona heals to potentially offset the damage urgot is harassing with. It's very possible, especially before-tear, to outsustain Urgot's full mana bar.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
July 02 2013 20:19 GMT
#2357
I just caught up on Vulcun vs Cloud9. What a game! This was, in my opinion, more exciting than TSM vs CLG, which was kinda sloppy. Vulcun threw a bit around 30-35 minutes, but Lissandra counters TF so hard. Every mid player should be learning and mastering her right now if they want to win.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 20:57:01
July 02 2013 20:54 GMT
#2358
On July 03 2013 04:49 Numy wrote:
I think they wanted to 2v1 by trying to mindgame CLG into thinking they would swap so they didn't swap? Doesn't make sense to me that they would go into a 2v2 lane vs an Urgot.

Doesn't make sense; I don't think CLG would want the 2v1 as an Urgot lane; If that was the case they would've picked up Cait; Varus or Graves; for faster tower pushing capabilities.
On July 03 2013 04:52 sylverfyre wrote:
I don't think kennen's 1v2 against urgot is strong enough to compensate for elise's slightly weaker 1v2 against "not urgot"

Urgot's ability to harass you under your tower is really strong. At least by 2v2ing it, they get sona heals to potentially offset the damage urgot is harassing with. It's very possible, especially before-tear, to outsustain Urgot's full mana bar.

This is a possibility; but I felt that the 2v2 pressure from Urgot is more 'effective' than in a 2v1. Cuz even in 1v2; urgot's ability to damage the tower is limited; in comparison to usual ADC picks. So by nature of CLG's urgot pick; jungle has more time to react to Urgot push.
liftlift > tsm
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 23:07:23
July 02 2013 21:34 GMT
#2359
On July 02 2013 20:47 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Anyone knows how big the live crowd was at the TSM CLG game?

It sounded amazing and crazy (guess the US lvie crowd factor also made a difference, but still it sounded massive on the stream), gives such good atmosphere to the games.


i don't have any numbers but i can do an estimate
the seats were broken up into 6 sections essentially, 6 rectangles of seats
VIP was basically 10 rows deep, probably 20 chairs across, 2 sections of that = 400
then the rest of the seating was groups of probably 40 deep, 20 across, 4 sections of that = 3200
sitting room was approximately 3600 then

at the peak of the CLG/TSM game, both side aisles were completely full around 2 sections and 1 of the VIP sections, standing room only. i would say there were nearly 500 people in the side aisles. behind the last section of seats, there were another 500 people standing and watching

so i would say nearly 4600 people watching at the end of TSM/CLG
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 02 2013 22:13 GMT
#2360
On July 03 2013 05:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 04:49 Numy wrote:
I think they wanted to 2v1 by trying to mindgame CLG into thinking they would swap so they didn't swap? Doesn't make sense to me that they would go into a 2v2 lane vs an Urgot.

Doesn't make sense; I don't think CLG would want the 2v1 as an Urgot lane; If that was the case they would've picked up Cait; Varus or Graves; for faster tower pushing capabilities.


I'm talking about TSM. Think they tried to predict where CLG would lane but failed to do so. Felt like they got absolutely crushed in the 2v2 and the 1v1 up top they didn't win either.
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