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so did i, and whenever i watch eu games i feel like suciding.
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
so did i, and whenever i watch eu games i feel like suciding. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On July 01 2013 22:02 Artok wrote: so did i, and whenever i watch eu games i feel like suciding. I didn't catch all the EU games, but from what I saw it's pretty :V too. Nothing can top the amount of  moments in the NA scene though, but it makes it fun to watch. :> | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22638 Posts
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
I think CLG's urgot comp needs some theoretical work before they play it again... big leads agaisnt TSM and China but unable to capitalize on them. Maybe it was just the team not following thru on pre-planned strats, but I don't think that was the case (considering the reminder the C9 game gave them about that). | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
On July 02 2013 00:24 Gorsameth wrote: Dyrus failure to defend 2 (or was it all 3?) inhibs from Nien really cost TSM the game. He didnt even try to keep him away just some half hearted poke. Why not all in on that last inhib. If they lost it they wouldnt come back anyway. Yea that part i didnt understand.. he only went in when nien took his second inhib in a 1vs1. It looked like Dyrus didnt had enough confidence to go for the 1on1 with Nien. (because after that you see clearly that dyrus could take him easily) And the run on mid was so stupid from Dyrus. He maybe could have kitted the group of minions to give TSM the seconds to finish the game but he went full retard/asperge mode. | ||
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Headshot
United States1656 Posts
And the sloppy play from both NA and EU every week makes me really sad. Worlds is going to be a joke. | ||
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
On July 02 2013 01:25 Headshot wrote: Dyrus performs well, best top lane NA! Dyrus makes a mistake, how is this guy even pro!? You guys are worse than Reddit sometimes. Gj Fanboi of TSM. But he self stated on reddit he got 3 calls from his team and thats why he went mid. He is now playing 2.5 years LoL and still not make the judgement on his own. That is in my eyes insecurity of his game. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 02 2013 01:27 ExoFun wrote: Gj Fanboi of TSM. But he self stated on reddit he got 3 calls from his team and thats why he went mid. He is now playing 2.5 years LoL and still not make the judgement on his own. That is in my eyes insecurity of his game. Easy there, ExoFun. But yes, Dyrus is not exactly a confident player. He can be and that's obviously when he plays his best. But 90% of the time, I feel like he's a meek player and he only reacts to what his team tells him. Unwavering faith to your team captain can be good and bad. In Dyrus's case, I see a lot more of the latter than former. | ||
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SimulatedAnneal
765 Posts
On July 02 2013 01:27 ExoFun wrote: Gj Fanboi of TSM. But he self stated on reddit he got 3 calls from his team and thats why he went mid. He is now playing 2.5 years LoL and still not make the judgement on his own. That is in my eyes insecurity of his game. How many times does "you always follow calls even if they're wrong" need to be said? | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 02 2013 01:30 SimulatedAnneal wrote: How many times does "you always follow calls even if they're wrong" need to be said? In a vacuum, yes, even I agree with that statement. In the case of Dyrus trying to Nien, you can really, really tell by his movements that he doubted his ability to fight Nien 1v1 while Nien was pummeling his mid inhib. He still followed through, don't get me wrong. | ||
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Headshot
United States1656 Posts
On July 02 2013 01:27 ExoFun wrote: Gj Fanboi of TSM. But he self stated on reddit he got 3 calls from his team and thats why he went mid. He is now playing 2.5 years LoL and still not make the judgement on his own. That is in my eyes insecurity of his game. I'm a fanboy because I can take a step back and point out rash generalizations? Dyrus following the calls made by the shot-caller will be for the best the majority of the time (depending on how you feel about Regi's calls). This time he made a mistake on how he executed the call. Mistakes happen. Of course this says something about Dyrus' mindset, but even if he isn't the most confidant player sometimes, that doesn't mean that he doesn't mean that he's bad, or shouldn't be pro. Both teams made good plays throughout the game, but what we should really be focusing on is how shaky TSM and CLG looked overall and what this means for the NA scene. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22638 Posts
On July 02 2013 01:37 Headshot wrote: I'm a fanboy because I can take a step back and point out rash generalizations? Dyrus following the calls made by the shot-caller will be for the best the majority of the time (depending on how you feel about Regi's calls). This time he made a mistake on how he executed the call. Mistakes happen. Of course this says something about Dyrus' mindset, but even if he isn't the most confidant player sometimes, that doesn't mean that he doesn't mean that he's bad, or shouldn't be pro. Both teams made good plays throughout the game, but what we should really be focusing on is how shaky TSM and CLG looked overall and what this means for the NA scene. My problem isnt with Dyrus being sent to defend the inhibs. My problem is him letting Nien take both without any effort to stop him. Regi isnt telling him to do nothing. he does that all by himself. Either he all-ins Nien and stops him or he dies. There is a chance he will win. By not doing anything he handed CLG the game on a silver plate since there was no way TSM could defend there nexus with no towers and no inhibs while also pushing CLG's base. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
Had Turtle, Oddone and Xpecial based, Clg would have respawned and pushed in with 20.000 creeps for an easy victory. If JiJi didn't kill Reginald though, it might have been a different story with 4 v Nien and Karthus easily holding those waves with defile and 900 Ap Qs. So mad props again to King Jiji for finishing off Regi and Chauster had a clutch tornado on Turtle which prevented Jiji from dying before killing him. edit: Doublelift played absolute shit lategame and had very questionable itemization. (Randuins vs 3 ap, no qss/merc scim) | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On July 02 2013 02:12 AsnSensation wrote: I feel like after Nien finished off the 3 inhibs the game was won for clg anyway, it's almost impossible to come back from that with only 1 Nexus tower remaining, they had an opening and probably called Dyrus for an all-in gamble push. Kennen alone can't hold 2 waves with 4 superminions. Had Turtle, Oddone and Xpecial based, Clg would have respawned and pushed in with 20.000 creeps for an easy victory. If JiJi didn't kill Reginald though, it might have been a different story with 4 v Nien and Karthus easily holding those waves with defile and 900 Ap Qs. So mad props again to King Jiji for finishing off Regi and Chauster had a clutch tornado on Turtle which prevented Jiji from dying before killing him. edit: Doublelift played absolute shit lategame and had very questionable itemization. (Randuins vs 3 ap, no qss/merc scim) Yeah, I was really concerned that Jiji wasn't going to get the kill on Karthus. Those full tank Noc AAs weren't doing shit lol. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On July 02 2013 01:37 Headshot wrote: I'm a fanboy because I can take a step back and point out rash generalizations? Dyrus following the calls made by the shot-caller will be for the best the majority of the time (depending on how you feel about Regi's calls). This time he made a mistake on how he executed the call. Mistakes happen. Of course this says something about Dyrus' mindset, but even if he isn't the most confidant player sometimes, that doesn't mean that he doesn't mean that he's bad, or shouldn't be pro. Both teams made good plays throughout the game, but what we should really be focusing on is how shaky TSM and CLG looked overall and what this means for the NA scene. I think it means...NA still blows like always but is super entertaining to watch, lol | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
I mean yes, I realize that he would have died at Dragon if he didn't go full tank but there have been plenty of times where his paltry auto attacks just make any CLG fan cringe. He's gotten pretty lucky so far and manage to get that last hit into whenever he needs it but still... BC is probably his best choice? Gives him what he needs on the offensive end and CDR+HP. BC plz jiji. Jesus, fucking, christ, Doublelift. I guess for every 9 games he carries CLG, the team has to carry him at least once. Real dora the explorer mode (it honestly look like he a-moved into 4 TSM at one point in the game) and Omen build against Karthus, Kennen, Varus? wei2coolman suggest Warmog's but I think Banshee's would have been better. But ffs, Omen?! /sigh | ||
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
On July 02 2013 01:25 Headshot wrote: Dyrus performs well: best top lane NA, so conistant! Dyrus makes a mistake: how is this guy even pro!? You guys are worse than Reddit sometimes. And the sloppy play from both NA and EU every week makes me really sad. Worlds is going to be a joke. You can't be the best top lane when your so passive imo. The strongest is the one who forces their opponent to make the most errors not the one who is usually evenish in cs. | ||
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