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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 01 2013 17:42 GMT
#2321
Judging from the times he got owned by crescendo and chain of correuption, qss into mercurial would have the best probably, additional MR helps vs every champ from tsm, as well.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
July 01 2013 17:43 GMT
#2322
On July 02 2013 02:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
Jiji should really consider building some sort of damage item, esp on a champion like Nocturne (DARKNESSSSSS).
I mean yes, I realize that he would have died at Dragon if he didn't go full tank but there have been plenty of times where his paltry auto attacks just make any CLG fan cringe. He's gotten pretty lucky so far and manage to get that last hit into whenever he needs it but still...
BC is probably his best choice? Gives him what he needs on the offensive end and CDR+HP. BC plz jiji.

Jesus, fucking, christ, Doublelift. I guess for every 9 games he carries CLG, the team has to carry him at least once. Real dora the explorer mode (it honestly look like he a-moved into 4 TSM at one point in the game) and Omen build against Karthus, Kennen, Varus? wei2coolman suggest Warmog's but I think Banshee's would have been better. But ffs, Omen?!
/sigh


I think JIJI's build was good considering TSM was bizarrly focusing him in a bunch of fights and he just kept getting away.

If I had more time on my hands I would make a compilation of him just running around in random directions during teamfights duskbringering, shielding Cho Ruptures, and fearing random TSM members playing this music:

Freeeeeeedom
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 01 2013 17:52 GMT
#2323
On July 02 2013 02:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Judging from the times he got owned by crescendo and chain of correuption, qss into mercurial would have the best probably, additional MR helps vs every champ from tsm, as well.

TSM had way too much CC imo for Mercurial. Double needed some HP on top of MR.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
July 01 2013 17:52 GMT
#2324
On July 02 2013 02:41 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 01:25 Headshot wrote:
Dyrus performs well: best top lane NA, so conistant! Dyrus makes a mistake: how is this guy even pro!? You guys are worse than Reddit sometimes.

And the sloppy play from both NA and EU every week makes me really sad. Worlds is going to be a joke.


You can't be the best top lane when your so passive imo. The strongest is the one who forces their opponent to make the most errors not the one who is usually evenish in cs.


How can he be aggressive when CLG's whole plan is to camp him? Two games in a row, CLG has sent link top over and over to crush dyrus. TSM needed to adapt to that strategy but they didn't make any changes. Link was giving up 2-3 waves and using flash to dive a kennen at tower. By the time oddone actually showed top, Nein could just burst dyrus down and run away.
captharlock
Profile Joined September 2010
United States223 Posts
July 01 2013 18:11 GMT
#2325
I am happy as hell that Crs went 2-1 this week that last game they played against Coast was amazing. Just hope they keep up the good play.

Although best game of the week was CLG vs. TSM. wow what a finish.
Baneslayer Angel could be hungover, slightly blind, and texting while flying and still win the game
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 18:19:42
July 01 2013 18:19 GMT
#2326
On July 02 2013 02:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 02:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Judging from the times he got owned by crescendo and chain of correuption, qss into mercurial would have the best probably, additional MR helps vs every champ from tsm, as well.

TSM had way too much CC imo for Mercurial. Double needed some HP on top of MR.


you're probably right, should have gone cleanse which wouldn't have resulted in the early kills they had though. Or at least get mercs over ionian.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 01 2013 18:21 GMT
#2327
I'm just really glad that Nien is doing so well. It feels good that CLG did a roster swap that appears to have made them a much stronger team than they were before.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 01 2013 18:23 GMT
#2328
On July 02 2013 03:19 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 02:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 02 2013 02:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Judging from the times he got owned by crescendo and chain of correuption, qss into mercurial would have the best probably, additional MR helps vs every champ from tsm, as well.

TSM had way too much CC imo for Mercurial. Double needed some HP on top of MR.


you're probably right, should have gone cleanse which wouldn't have resulted in the early kills they had though. Or at least get mercs over ionian.

I think I mentioned this earlier when the game happened but Double is always very smart when it comes to his summoners. He had plenty of mitigation with Urgot shield and Janna shield. Urgot needs to snowball in lane more than any other ADC, so going Ignite was plenty smart.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
July 01 2013 18:31 GMT
#2329
So not enough knowledge from Dyrus point of view and pretty much pretty bad game knowledge from Reggie. But still you don't need to relay on your team calls. You got a brain and as a professional LoL player you need to make your own decision and take responsibility for that, otherwise its so fucking simple to always give somebody else the fault.

[image loading]
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
July 01 2013 18:42 GMT
#2330
This is a pretty good overview/highlights of that clgvstsm game that was on reddit.


AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 01 2013 18:57 GMT
#2331
On July 02 2013 03:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 03:19 AsnSensation wrote:
On July 02 2013 02:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 02 2013 02:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Judging from the times he got owned by crescendo and chain of correuption, qss into mercurial would have the best probably, additional MR helps vs every champ from tsm, as well.

TSM had way too much CC imo for Mercurial. Double needed some HP on top of MR.


you're probably right, should have gone cleanse which wouldn't have resulted in the early kills they had though. Or at least get mercs over ionian.

I think I mentioned this earlier when the game happened but Double is always very smart when it comes to his summoners. He had plenty of mitigation with Urgot shield and Janna shield. Urgot needs to snowball in lane more than any other ADC, so going Ignite was plenty smart.


I saw your post on that, he still got fucked pretty hard every fight by sona, varus and cho cc, I don't think he ever got a swap off after 30min, alway interupt by one of the above mentioned cc's
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 01 2013 19:01 GMT
#2332
On July 02 2013 03:57 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 03:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 02 2013 03:19 AsnSensation wrote:
On July 02 2013 02:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 02 2013 02:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Judging from the times he got owned by crescendo and chain of correuption, qss into mercurial would have the best probably, additional MR helps vs every champ from tsm, as well.

TSM had way too much CC imo for Mercurial. Double needed some HP on top of MR.


you're probably right, should have gone cleanse which wouldn't have resulted in the early kills they had though. Or at least get mercs over ionian.

I think I mentioned this earlier when the game happened but Double is always very smart when it comes to his summoners. He had plenty of mitigation with Urgot shield and Janna shield. Urgot needs to snowball in lane more than any other ADC, so going Ignite was plenty smart.


I saw your post on that, he still got fucked pretty hard every fight by sona, varus and cho cc, I don't think he ever got a swap off after 30min, alway interupt by one of the above mentioned cc's

He got that key swap off on TheOddOne. But granted Regi went full retard and forced TSM to give up three kills for one and then Baron.

idk, Urgot late game doesn't have the DPS of your average ADC but he can still do a lot of poke and utility from his ulti. Double was just being full retard that game and Nien carried. 'nuff said.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 01 2013 19:03 GMT
#2333
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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 01 2013 19:36 GMT
#2334
On July 02 2013 03:31 ExoFun wrote:
So not enough knowledge from Dyrus point of view and pretty much pretty bad game knowledge from Reggie. But still you don't need to relay on your team calls. You got a brain and as a professional LoL player you need to make your own decision and take responsibility for that, otherwise its so fucking simple to always give somebody else the fault.

[image loading]

Yeah that's pretty much it. I remember when I watched Nien destroying 2 inhibs and Dyrus staying behind I was like "wtf dude just go in !" but he only attacked once both inhibs were down... Too bad for TSM
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
July 01 2013 20:05 GMT
#2335
On July 02 2013 04:36 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 03:31 ExoFun wrote:
So not enough knowledge from Dyrus point of view and pretty much pretty bad game knowledge from Reggie. But still you don't need to relay on your team calls. You got a brain and as a professional LoL player you need to make your own decision and take responsibility for that, otherwise its so fucking simple to always give somebody else the fault.

[image loading]

Yeah that's pretty much it. I remember when I watched Nien destroying 2 inhibs and Dyrus staying behind I was like "wtf dude just go in !" but he only attacked once both inhibs were down... Too bad for TSM

I reeeeally don't think Dyrus could take down Nien 1v1. Nien was essentially at full life by the time the 2nd inhib died, which was when Dyrus finally landed his stun combo to take him down to half. Had Dyrus engaged before then, he would die so quickly if Nien just focused him. And not to mention Nien still had GA up and as you saw before he died, Nien in Zhonyas took down Dyrus from full to half HP JUST from his autoattacking spiders. I think if Dyrus fought Nien before the nexus went down, he'd have died trying to kill Nien (may or may not lose GA) and Nien would continue pushing down the main or recall and save his base.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
July 01 2013 20:22 GMT
#2336
On July 02 2013 05:05 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 04:36 Lylat wrote:
On July 02 2013 03:31 ExoFun wrote:
So not enough knowledge from Dyrus point of view and pretty much pretty bad game knowledge from Reggie. But still you don't need to relay on your team calls. You got a brain and as a professional LoL player you need to make your own decision and take responsibility for that, otherwise its so fucking simple to always give somebody else the fault.

[image loading]

Yeah that's pretty much it. I remember when I watched Nien destroying 2 inhibs and Dyrus staying behind I was like "wtf dude just go in !" but he only attacked once both inhibs were down... Too bad for TSM

I reeeeally don't think Dyrus could take down Nien 1v1. Nien was essentially at full life by the time the 2nd inhib died, which was when Dyrus finally landed his stun combo to take him down to half. Had Dyrus engaged before then, he would die so quickly if Nien just focused him. And not to mention Nien still had GA up and as you saw before he died, Nien in Zhonyas took down Dyrus from full to half HP JUST from his autoattacking spiders. I think if Dyrus fought Nien before the nexus went down, he'd have died trying to kill Nien (may or may not lose GA) and Nien would continue pushing down the main or recall and save his base.


Nien was way stronger than Dyrus. Especially with Spiders blocking Shuirkens. IDK what Dyrus was supposed to do.
Freeeeeeedom
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
July 01 2013 20:29 GMT
#2337
Dyrus basically had to land a Q through spiders before even thinking about engaging. He was trying to but couldn't get it. Rappel would completely screw over Kennen's ult; there was no way Kennen wins a 1v1 without landing a Q before going in.

Anyway - there's a discussion about ADC runes/masteries, and how many NA/EU ADs prefer 21/x/x while all KR ADs use 21/9 (often with ~4 flat mana regen blues). I don't read Korean so I can't translate the explanation of why all KR ADs do this.

http://braverush.egloos.com/5728801
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 20:52:59
July 01 2013 20:52 GMT
#2338
pretty sure everyone goes 21/9 by now, imps "remark" that doublelift would get owned in korean lane because he goes 9 utility was outdated cause he has been using 9 defense like everyone else since beginning of s3.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
July 01 2013 21:14 GMT
#2339
On July 02 2013 03:31 ExoFun wrote:
So not enough knowledge from Dyrus point of view and pretty much pretty bad game knowledge from Reggie. But still you don't need to relay on your team calls. You got a brain and as a professional LoL player you need to make your own decision and take responsibility for that, otherwise its so fucking simple to always give somebody else the fault.

[image loading]

"could of"
WHY DOES EVERYONE DO THIS
Platinum Support GOD
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 01 2013 21:22 GMT
#2340
On July 02 2013 06:14 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 03:31 ExoFun wrote:
So not enough knowledge from Dyrus point of view and pretty much pretty bad game knowledge from Reggie. But still you don't need to relay on your team calls. You got a brain and as a professional LoL player you need to make your own decision and take responsibility for that, otherwise its so fucking simple to always give somebody else the fault.

[image loading]

"could of"
WHY DO ONLY NATIVE SPEAKERS DO THIS


FTFY, srsly already wanted to ask this the other day but I've only ever seen native speakers do this, mainly muricans.
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